Food for thought for all PBKs

[shivsena]

To all pbk brothers.

Sharing the story of samudra-manthan as per the Bhakti-scriptures.

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Why was the ocean churned: According to Hindu mythology, once upon a time the fights between devtas and demons became extremely frequent. Both decided to procure the elixir or "Amrit" from the depth of the ocean. And so began the herculean task of churning the mighty ocean or "Samudra manthan". "Samudra" means the ocean and "manthan" means to churn. To begin the task, the devtas and the demons, needed a churning rod, a rope to tie it with, something to stabilize the rod from below, and two parties to pull from either side. The vastness of the ocean finally made them decide upon the mountain called "Mandrachal parbat" for the churning rod. The serpent called "Vasuki nag" was used as the rope. "Vasuki nag" was tied around the "Mandrachal parbat" and its head was held by the demon side while the tail was held by the devta side. To stop the churning rod from slipping here and there Lord Vishnu took the incarnation of a tortoise form called "Matsya avatar". The mountainous churning rod was mounted on the back of the tortoise to stabilize it. And so the churning began. Days turned into nights and months turned into years and still the devtas and the demons churned away tirelessly. One item that came gushing out of the ocean was poison or "halahal". Both the devtas and the demons stepped away. Everyone felt scared. Who would step forward to accept this gift from the ocean? It was then that Shankar came forward and took the poison. He put it to his mouth and drank it all. As the lethal liquid moved down his throat, by his amazing power, he held it from going down into his stomach. The poison stayed in his throat and due to its immense potent heat and energy turned Shankar's throat blackish blue. The devtas and the demons felt very grateful to Shankar for saving their lives. From that day, Shankar came to be known as "Neel Kanth" or the God with a blue neck.

Emergence of elixir from the ocean: Finally, the ocean released the pot of elixir from the well churned ocean. The God of medicine called "Dhanvantri" emerged from the ocean carrying the precious pot in his hands. The demons lept forward. A chaos ensued as everyone pushed forward to grab a little of the potion that would give them immortality. Lord Vishnu was looking at this development with a worried frown. He knew that the demons should never be allowed to drink this potion or else they would create unending destruction in the world. He thought fast and transformed himself into a beautiful woman called "Mohini" or the one who charms and has great attracting powers. The devtas and the demons fell under her charms immediately. She suggested they all calm down. Mohini, then, volunteered to equally share the elixir between the devtas and the demons. Everyone agreed. By using trick, guile, and charm, Mohini quickly distributed the elixir to the devtas. When the demons realized that they had been deceived, the beautiful maiden vanished and Lord Vishnu reappeared. The demons now knew they had been duped by the Lord but could do nothing. Once again the world had been delivered from the evil and cruel nature of the demons by the grace of the Lord.
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The above samudra-manthan happened in Sangamyug and so it would be worthwhile to know the true meaning of the above story as it happened in Confluence Age.

Who are the devtas and demons??
What is mandrachal parbat ??
Who is vasuki nag??
Who held the mouth of the serpent and who held the tail of the serpent??(ie. who are the devtas and demons ??)
What was this halahal vish(poison) which came out of the churning??
Who is this Shankar who drank this poison??
And who deceived the demons and gave the amrut to devtas. ??

Can all PBKs please share their views about the above.
shivsena.

[shivsena]

To all truth-seeking PBKs.

Murli 26-10-99 says: "Nivritti-marg walon ko pravritti-marg ki rasam-riwaz ka kuch pataa nahin."
[" Souls of Nivritti-marg (BKs-PBKs who think that shiv is bindi) do not know the beliefs of pravritti-marg souls. ( those who believe that shiv and shakti are one and the same.)]

The whole Godly knowledge can be understood by any soul, if he can just churn on the above point and clearly define what are the rasam-riwaz(beliefs) of nivritti-marg and what is pravritti-marg.

Every bk-pbk soul needs to ask himself only one question:
Supreme Father shiv forms pavitra pavritti-marg with which soul ???....does the combination of shiv+DL form pavritra pravritti-marg.....or is it the combination of shiv+VD(Shankar).....or is the combination of shiv+adishakti jagdamba (remembered as combination of shivling below ) is the only pravitra-pravritti-marg. ?????

shivsena.

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[shivsena]

To all truth-seeking PBKs.

Murli 19-10-99 says: " तुम हो राज-ऋषि , वो है हटयोग-ऋषि ..रात-दिन का फर्क है . उन्हों का सन्यास है हद का , सिर्फ घरभार छोड़ते हैं ...तुमारा सन्यास या वैराग्य है सारी पूरानी दुनिया को छोड़ने का ."

" Tum(108) ho raj-rishi, woh(BKs-PBKs) hai hatyog-rishi..raat-din ka fark hai. Unho ka sanyas hai hadh ka, sirf gharbhar chodte hain...tumara sanyas ya vairagya hai saari purani duniya ko chodne ka."

[" You(108) are raj-rishi, they(BKs-PBKs) are hatyog-rishi. Their renunciation is limited, they(BKs-PBKs) leave only the household (and get surrendered in bk-pbk ashrams)....your (108) renunciation is to leave all the 3 worlds (outside--bk--pbk world) with your intellect. (ie. have no attachment to any world)]

The above point is clearly describing the difference between the effort of the 108 and 9,16,000 (bk-pbk world)...9 lacs renounce the outside world and surrender to the bk philosophy(some surrender physically in bk ashrams)....16,000 surrender to the pbk philosophy(some surrender physically in pbk ashrams)....while the potential 108 will not surrender to any philosophy either physically or intellectually and will churn only the gems of knowledge in Murlis/Vanis ("Murli hamari lathi hai") while remaining in the house.... (Murli point: "pandavon ko teen pair prithvi ke nahin milte, bap unhe vishwa ka malik banaa detaa"... metphorically meaning that " pandav are not attached to any of the 3 worlds (outside-bk-pbk world ) intellectually and they inherit the world kingdom just by doing effort at home and remembering no. 1 shivshakti (Mama jagdamba) to become 108 shivshakti-pandavsena numberwise. ("Ghar baite Bhagwan mila".)

shivsena.

[shivsena]

To all truth-seeking PBKs.

Murli 7-11-99 says: " वो पण्डे क्या करते और आप क्या करते ! वो कौन सी यात्रा कराते और आप कौन सी यात्रा कराते ??
आप ऐसी यात्रा कराते हो जो जन्म जन्म के लिए यात्रा करने से छूट जायेंगे और वो बार बार यात्रा कराते रहेंगे .
आप मंजिल पर पहुचाने वाले रूहानी पण्डे हो ."

" Woh pande kya karte aur aap kya karte. Woh kaun si yatra karate aur aap kaun si yatra karate ??
Aap aisi yatra karate ho jo janam janam ke liye yatra karne se choot jayenge aur woh baar baar yatra karate rahenge. Aap manzil par pahuchane wale ruhani pande ho."

[" What those pande(BKs-PBKs)do and what you(108) do !!
Which journey they(BKs-PBKs) embark upon, and which journey you(108) embark upon ??
You (108) take souls on a journey that will cease the bodily journey for many births...and they(BKs-PBKs) take souls on many bodily journeys in this birth. (to meet God in mt abu and Kampil).
You(108) are the spiritual pandas(true pandav) who make souls reach their destination.(no. 1 shivshakti--matpita combined)]

The above Murli point is clearly describing the contrast between the 108 true pandas(true-brahmins--Pandavs) and the rest of 9,16,000 (BKs-PBKs), who take the souls on a bodily journey to meet their supposed GOD ShivBaba in mt abu and Kampil....while the 108 true Pandavs will just give the introduction of no. 1 shivshakti(Mama) as personified ShivBaba ( while sitting in their homes) and instruct the souls to have intellectual ruhani connection with Mama-ShivBaba.(without embarking upon on any bodily journey.).

shivsena.

[shivsena]

To all truth-seeking PBKs.

Murli 22-10-09 says: ''एक बाप है , बाकी सब आत्माएं है भाई-भाई . बाप के साथ ही लव चाहिए . भाई के लव से कुछ मिलता नहीं . वर्सा एक बाप से ही मिलता है. "

''Ek Bap hai, baki sab atmaen hai Bhai-Bhai. Bap ke saath hi love chahiye. Bhai ke love se kuch milta nahin. Varsa ek Bap se hi milta hai. "

[" There is one Father(combined with mother) only, the rest of all souls(including Baba DIxit) are all brothers. You must have love only for Father(combined with mother)..By loving the brother(Baba Dixit) you will not get anything...Inheritance is given only by one Father(combined with mother adi-shakti jagdamba)"]

The above Murli point clearly mentions that all souls are brothers (including Baba Dixit--first creation Krishna) and one should not have any attachment to any brother....one should always love and remember the Father Shiv combined with mother adi-shakti jagdamba to get inheritance.

Another Murli point says: "Krishna cannot be called Father".

Combining the two above points, the hint is quite clear to PBKs who have mistakenly identified Baba Dixit(elder brother Krishna) as Father and reminding them that inheritance is given only by Father-mother combined(adi-shakti jagdamba) and not by any brother.

shivsena.

[shivsena]

To all truth-seeking PBKs.

Murli 24-9-97 says: "मनुष्य तो जो सुनते हैं सब सत्य सत्य करते रहेते हैं . असत्य बात को भी सत्य मान लेते हैं . यह सभी असत्य बातें हैं , सत्य कोई भी नहीं . दुनिया में blind faith होने के कारण , जिसने जो सुनाया सत-सत करते रहेते हैं ; समजते कुछ भी नहीं . किसको कहो तो बिगड़ पड़ते हैं ."

"Manushya toh jo sunte hain sab satya satya karte rahete hain. Asatya baat ko bhi satya maan lete hain. Yeh sabhi asatya baatein hain, satya koi bhi nahin. Duniya mein blind faith hone ke karan, jisne jo sunaya sat-sat karte rahete hain; samajte kuch bhi nahin. Kisko kaho toh bigad padte hain."

(meaning: "Whatever humans(BKs-PBKs) hear, they keep on saying true true. Even the False things are considered as truth. These(AK) are all false talk, there is no truth in it. There is so much blind faith in the (pbk)world that whatever is spoken is considered as truth; they(PBKs) do not understand anything. If you tell them(PBKs), then they get irritated".]

The above Murli point clearly refers to the behad ka Sangamyugi drama, where the BKs-PBKs say sat-sat to anything that is told to them by nimit Dadis/Didis and PBKs say sat-sat to anything that is told to them by Baba Dixit in cds and cassettes(even though it is proved wrong by Shiva's Murli points). In both, bk and pbk world there is blind faith and whatever is told to them is accepted as truth, even though they do not understand anything. If potential 108 souls tell them openly, then they get irritated.

The above Murli point will be interpretated differently by each group. The BKs will point to the outside world; the PBKs will point to the bk world and the potential 108 will point it to the behad ki bk and pbk world.

shivsena.

[shivsena]

To all truth-seeking PBKs.

Murli 2-5-03 says: " सन्यासी लोग कहेते हैं : आत्मा सो परमात्मा ... इसे उल्टी गंगा कहेते हैं ."..."Sanyasi log kahete hain : Atma so Paramatma... Isse ulti ganga kahete hain."

[ "Sanyasis (PBKs) say ''atma so paramatma'' ( meaning that one dehdhari atma--Baba Dixit becomes like paramatma)..this is called ulti ganga. (meaning opposite-wrong knowledge.)

The above point clearly describes the sanyasis of nivritti-marg(PBKs) of behad ka drama, who believe and preach that one dehdhari-atma Baba Dixit becomes like Shiva(paramatma) in all respects.(even though Baba Dixit does not display any qualities of Shiva at present.)....the shooting of the Bhakti-marg belief of "Atma so Paramatma" is done by nivritti-marg pbk sanyasis in Sangamyug. (who do not believe in the pravritti-marg of Shiva and his no. 1 shakti ).

shivsena.

[shivsena]

To all truth-seeking PBKs.

Avaykt Vani 22-12-93 says: "आत्माओं का प्यार और परमात्मा--प्यार में कितना अंतर है . आत्मा--प्यार राज्भाग गवांता है और परमात्मा-प्यार राज्भाग दिलाता है , इसी जन्म में ."

"Atmaon ka pyar aur paramatma-pyar mein kitna antar hai. Atma-pyar rajya-bhag gavanta hai aur paramatma-pyar rajya-bhag dilataa hai, issi janam mein."

[" There is a big difference between the love for a soul and the love for the Supreme Soul. Love for a soul(Dadi-Didi or Baba Dixit) makes you loose your fortune and love for the Supreme Soul (no. 1 shivshakti--Mama jagdamba) give you the inheritance of Godly kingdom, in this very birth."]

The above Vani point is self-explanatory.
BKs--PBKs who love(rely on the teachings) of the souls (Dadis-Didis and baba Dixit) are loosing the fortune and those 108 shivshaktis who recognise and love the paramatma partdhari(no. 1 shivshakti--Mama jagdamba) will get their kingship in this very birth.....BKs-PBKs are leaving their bodies untimely, proving that their love is for the souls and not for the Supreme Soul.....while those who recognise(have nischay-buddhi) and love for the paramatma part(Mama jagdamba--no. 1 combined shivshakti ) will get the boon of immortality and kingship in this very birth.

shivsena.

[shivsena]

To all truth-seeking PBKs.

Sharing a very important Vani point, which should be read repeatedly by all those PBKs, who believe that Sakar Murli are third class and should not be read and churned.....and those PBKs who also think that whatever Baba Dixit speaks is Murli and is Shrimat, should again think twice before dis-regarding the Sakar Murlis which come from madhuban.

Avaykt Vani 11-4-82 says: "एक बल एक भरोसा अर्थात सदा निश्चय हो की जो साकार की मुरली है , वो ही मुरली है ....जो मधुबन से श्रीमत मिलती है वो ही श्रीमत है ,....मधुबन से जो पढाई का पाठ पढाया जाता है , वो ही पढाई है , दूसरी कोई पढाई नहीं है ....मधुबन से जो मुरली आती है उस पर ध्यान दो , नहीं तो और रास्ते पर चले जायेंगे . मधुबन में ही बाबा की मुरली चलती है , मधुबन में ही बाबा आते हैं , इसलिए हर एक बच्चा यह सावधानी रखे , नहीं तो माया धोका दे देगी ."

"Ek bal Ek bharosa arthath sadaa nischay ho ki jo Sakar ki Murli hai, wohi hi Murli hai....jo madhuban se Shrimat milti hai woh hi Shrimat hai,....madhuban se jo padayee ka paat padaya jaata hai, wohi padayee hai, doosri koi padayee nahin hai.....madhuban se jo Murli aati hai uss par dhyan do nahin toh aur raaste par chale jaayenge. Madhuban mein hi Baba ki Murli chalti hai, madhuban mein hi Baba aate hain, issliye har ek baccha yeh savdhani rakhe, nahin toh Maya dhoka de degi."

["One strength, one belief(faith) that whatever Murlis were spoken through Sakar Dada Lekhraj, are the only Murlis....Whatever Shrimat(directions) one gets from madhuban(mt abu) (in the form of Murlis and Vanis) is the only Shrimat.....whatever study is being taught (in the form of Murlis and Vanis), that is the only study of students, there is no other study (like advance knowledge etc etc)... Baba's Murli is recited only in madhuban(mt abu), Baba(avaykt BapDada) comes only in madhuban (not in any another dehdhari in Kampil or any other place)....that is why every child has to be aware (of the above facts), or else Maya(Godly form) will deceive you."]

The above Vani point is a clear warning to all PBKs, who have complete disregard of the Sakar Murlis and avaykt Vanis of BapDada and who think that whatever Baba Dixit speaks from his mouth is more important than the Sakar Murlis and avaykt Vanis and who insist on hearing only the cassettes/cds/vcds of dehdhari Baba Dixit only.

shivsena.

[shivsena]

To all truth-seeking PBKs.

Sharing a interesting Murli point (which if interpreted in behad ka sense) will clarify "who is who'' in this behad ka Sangamyugi drama.

Murli 19-10-99 says: "Russia और America दो भाई हैं . इन दोनों का competition है bombs आदि बनाने का . दोनों एक दो से ताकत वाले हैं . इतनी ताकत है की अगर दोनों आपस में मिल जायें तो सारे वर्ल्ड पर राज्य कर सकते हैं ....परन्तु law नहीं है जो बाहुबल से कोई विश्व पर राज्य कर सके . कहानी है : "दो बिल्ले आपस में लड़े और माखन तीसरा खा गया ."...वोह दोनों आपस में लड़ते हैं ...सारे विश्व की बादशाही तुम ले लेते हो . वोह दोनों बहुत powerful हैं ....उन्हों का व्यापर है जबरदस्त.

"Russia aur America do Bhai hain. Inn dono ka competition hai bombs adi banane ka. Dono ek do se takat wale hain. Itni takat hai ki agar dono apas mein mil jayein to saare world par rajya kar sakte hain....parantu law nahin hai jo bahubal se koi vishwa par rajya kar sake. Kahani hai: "do bille apas mein lade aur makhan teesra kha gaya."...woh dono apas mein ladte hain...sare vishwa ki badshahi tum le lete ho. woh dono bahut powerful hain....unhon ka vyapar hai jabardast."

[ " Russia(PBKs) and America(BKs) are two brothers. Both have competition with each other to make bombs (of false interpretation of knowledge) . Both are very powerful (BKs have money power and mayavi PBKs have illusionary power of jhooti Gita). They both are so powerful that if they unite then they can rule the world...but law does not permit, that by sheer numbers (jismani strength) one can rule the world.....there is a story: Two cats(BKs-PBKs) fight each other (with wrong explanations of Murlis) and the butter is eaten away by the third party(108)....they(BKs-PBKs) both fight each other (to establish the Chariot of Shiva)....but the world inheritance goes to you (108 by virtue of knowing the yatharth-roop of ShivBaba as Mama adi-shakti)...they both (BKs-PBKs) are very powerful...their business (of fooling the people with their false interpretation of knowledge) is tremendous". (expanding rapidly) ]

BKs world interpret the above Murli by pointing out to the worldly Russia and America of the broad drama....but in reality the point describes the two spiritual giants(BKWSU and Aivv) of the behad ka drama who are teaching jismani knowledge and hatyoga to its students....Russia is Aivv ( PBKs who feel that the body is everything and that God will be revealed through a physical body) and America is BKWSU (BKs who have money power and indulge in pomp/show to spread their spiritual business)...both are very powerful ( they take their students on a jismani journey to mt abu and Kampil to meet their respective Gods)....but the law says that those who have bahubal( physical strength) cannot rule the world and only 108 who have the right knowledge and the right connection (yogbal) with the supreme ShivBaba (Mama adi-shakti combined mat-pita) will rule the world as Farishtas.

It would be interesting to note how PBKs would interpret the above Murli point, as to who is Russia and who is America in this behad ka drama.(as PBKs always try to interpret Murlis in the behad ka sense.)

shivsena.

[shivsena]

To all truth-seeking PBKs.

Sharing a very revealing Murli point:

Murli 14-6-85 says: "आज-कल ऐसे भी बहुत निकले हैं , जो कहेते हैं भगवन ने मेरे में प्रवेश किया है ..है सब झूठ ....झूठे भगवन झूठे चतुर्भुज कहेने वाले बहुत हैं . चतुर्भुज विष्णु नाम अपने ऊपर रखते हैं ."

"Aaj-kal aise bhi bahut nikle hain, jo kahete hain Bhagwan ne mere mein pravesh kiya hai..hai sab jhoot..Jhoote bhagwan jhoote chaturbhuj kahene-wale bahut hain. Chaturbhuj Vishnu naam apne upar rakhte hain."

[" Nowadays( in Sangamyugi world) there are many who say that God shiv has entered in me...all these are lies...False Gods and false Vishnu proclaimers are many(at the end of Kaliyugi shooting). They keep the name of Vishnu-chaturbhuj on themselves."]

The above point clearly refers to the state of the Sangamyugi world, where there are many false self-proclaimed Bhagwans(like Virendra Dev Dixit and Dashrat Patel and other heads of break-away groups) who claim that Shiv is entering in them and they claim to be Vishnu-chaturbhuj....This same thing is repeated in the outside world, where one can easily find many dehdhari gurus calling themselves as "Incarnation of Vishnu." (subtle happenings in the behad ka-drama repeats in the hadh-ka-drama)

shivsena.

[shivsena]

To all truth seeking PBKs.

Mu: "Har atma swayam apna mitra bhi hai aur shatru bhi hai"....Kaise??
Jab hum Ek dehdhari-Virendra Dev Dixit ko Bhagwan mante,toh hum swayam apne shatru ban jaate hai..jab hume Mat-pita adi-shakti par 100% nischay ho jaata, tab hum swayam ke mitra ban jaate.

["Every soul(in Sangamyugi drama) is his own friend and his own enemy."]....How??
When we believe that One dehdahri guru-Virendra Dev Dixit is God ShivBaba then we become our own enemy and when we have nischay on Mama as personified ShivBaba, then we become our own friend.....think about it.

shivsena.

[shivsena]

To all truth-seeking brothers.

Mu : "Hear no evil..talk no evil..see no evil."

What is this evil in Sangamyugi drama?
Adv-Gyan is evil, which has taken souls away from the yatharth roop of ShivBaba ie. mat-pita adi-shakti.

The above point is clearly instructing the students : Do not listen to adv-Gyan.. do not talk about adv-Gyan..do not see the jismani guru who is giving evil adv-Gyan.

There is no evil Gyan in BKWSU, but Aivv is an evil organisation which has milead PBKs and caused partition between the BKs and PBKs.

shivsena.

[shivsena]

To all truth-seeking brothers.

Av: 6-3-97 says: "शिव-जयंती अर्थात बच्चों के मेहनत समाप्त की जयंती ."
"Shiv-jayanti artharth bacchon ke mehnat samapt ki jayanti."

["Shiv-jayanti means the effort(purusharth) of children comes to an end (and rajdhani is established)"]

The above Vani point clearly describes that shiv-jayanti(revelation of shiv) is yet to come in future and has not happened in 1937(as BKs believe) nor in 1976(as PBKs believe). Shiv-jayanti--the effort of children--the establishment of rajdhani and the revelation of 108 shivshaktis souls will occur simultaneously in future.

shivsena.

[shivsena]

To all truth-seeking brothers.

Murli 7-11-04: "भक्ती में कर्ण-रस बहुत मिलता है , इसलिए छोड़ते नहीं हैं ."
"Bhakti mein karna-ras bahut milta hai, issliye chodte nahin hain."

["In Bhakti, one gets lot of hearing-pleasure, that is why it is difficult to leave.']

The above Murli point clearly describes the state of the bk-pbk family in this behad ka drama..BKs get pleasure by listening to Murlis read by sisters in morning class in bk centers, while PBKs find pleasure in listening to cassettes and vcds of their guru Baba Dixit's explanation of Murlis.....both do not have to make any effort of churning the Murli and Vani points themselves and are happy to listen to whatever is told to them, just as the souls of the outside world listen to their respective gurus blindly....that is why it is difficult to leave this subtle Bhakti.

shivsena.