Hunt for Fresh Meat - Inner Space shopfronts

[abrahma kumar]

I am taking deep breaths in-between peals of laughter. That took talent. Nice one Bansy

:lol:

[bansy]

Just a bit of banter. Thanks.

Actually, anyone been to one of these Inner Space shops. What are they like, just a store selling BK merchandise, or spirituality in general ? Is it like the shop you get next to the Art Department in Gyan Sarovar, just off Baba's Room. Are they only in the UK ?

[mr green]

In the uk there were 4, might be more now, they are like a shop as you first walk in, tapes books posters etc, but they all have a backroom where courses and talks are given, most of them have a morning Murli class too

[bansy]

most of them have a morning Murli class too

In other words, they are Raya Yoga Centres, or rather what is the difference between an Inner Space store and a BK/Raja Yoga Centre.

[sparkal]

Inner space is being skinned alive here. I was not serious about the bad vibes thing by the way.

Anyway, I have worked it out at last- of these two shops, one is a normal going concern, a business whose SOUL purpose is to make profit for the owners.

The other shop on the other hand, is a butcher shop.

[mr green]

In other words, they are Raya Yoga Centres, or rather what is the difference between an Inner Space store and a BK/Raja Yoga Centre.

Yes, they are really just Raj Yoga centres but with a public shop face open and trade hours so any member of the public can walk in and take 'benefit'.

They are listed on all the admin lists as centres, all the circular email lists so to speak.

[fluffy bunny]

Inner space is being skinned alive here ... The other shop on the other hand, is a butcher shop.

So, are you saying that the slaughterhouse is the one on the right?

It would be funny if it were not true. I know of one family that was killed after the wife became involved via an Inner Space Shop, hit "the Honeymoon Period" without really knowing what it was all about, and having the principles to protect herself and others. Sparing the details, that included breaking major Maryadas and marriage vows, she went a little bit mad basically, destroyed the family and was supported/defended by the BK center in doing so.

Yes, they are really just Raj Yoga centres but with a public shop face open and trade hours so any member of the public can walk in and take 'benefit'.

It would be interesting to look at the financial accounts for them. They cannot make enough money to pay their rent and rates and so must be supported out of the donations. One could calculate the financial cost of each soul they bring in. From a lokik point of view, I wonder too if there is any ambiguity between being a shop and being a "place of worship". From an alokik point of view, I wonder where the dividing line between the business and the service is. What the connection between them and the BK Information Service company whose products they sell is? What the ethics of having to make some money to make a center survive? I suppose they use free labour to run them too?

Of course, it is all very clever and tasteful marketing. Stick with me on this one ...

The "Dead Yogi" Sketch - from the original and famous (again) Monty Python Dead Parrot Sketch

The sketch: A customer enters an Inner Space Shop.

Mr. Praline: 'Ello, I wish to register a complaint.

• (The Senior Sister does not respond.)

Mr. Praline: 'Ello, Miss?
Sister-in-charge: What do you mean "miss"?
Mr. Praline: I am sorry, I have a cold. I wish to make a complaint!
Sister-in-charge: We're closin' to eat Bhog.
Mr. Praline: Never mind that. I wish to complain about this yogi what I purchased not half an hour ago from this very Inner Space boutique.
Sister-in-charge: Oh yes, the, uh, the Michaelus Georgicus ... What's, uh ... What's wrong with him?
Mr. Praline: I'll tell you what's wrong with him, my lad. 'E's dead, that's what's wrong with it!
Sister-in-charge: No, no, 'e's uh ... he's resting.
Mr. Praline: Look, sissy, I know a dead yogi when I see one, and I am looking at one right now.
Sister-in-charge: No no he's not dead, he's, he's restin'! Remarkable yogi, the Michaelus Georgicus, idn'it, ay? Beautiful level of conscious!
Mr. Praline: The level of conscious don't enter into it. He's stone dead.
Sister-in-charge: Nononono, no, no! 'E's resting!
Mr. Praline: All right then, if he's restin', I'll wake him up!

• (Shouting at the guddhi)

'Ello, Mickey Bhai! I've got a lovely fresh Murli for you if you show ...

• (Sister-in-charge hits the guddhi)

Sister-in-charge: There, he moved!
Mr. Praline: No, he did not, that was you hitting the guddhi!
Sister-in-charge: I never!!
Mr. Praline: Yes, you did!
Sister-in-charge: I never, never did anything ...
Mr. Praline: (yelling and hitting the guddhi repeatedly) 'ELLO MICKEY!!!!! Yogiiii!!! Yogiiii!!!!! Testing! Testing! Testing! Testing! This is your four o'clock alarm call!

• (Takes yogi off of the guddhi and thumps its head on the counter. Throws him up in the air and watches him plummet to the floor.)

Mr. Praline: Now that's what I call a dead yogi.
Sister-in-charge: No, no ... No, 'e's stunned!
Mr. Praline: STUNNED?!?
Sister-in-charge: Yeah! You stunned him, just as he was wakin' up! Michaelus Georgicuss stun easily, major.
Mr. Praline: Um ... now look ... now look, mate, I've definitely 'ad enough of this. That yogi is definitely deceased, and when I purchased it not 'alf an hour ago, you assured me that his total lack of movement was due to it bein' tired and shagged out following a prolonged bhutti.
Sister-in-charge: Well, he's ... he's, ah ... probably pining for the Madhban.
Mr. Praline: PININ' for MADHUBAN?!?!?!? What kind of talk is that? Look, why did he fall flat on his back the moment I got 'im home?
Sister-in-charge: The Michaelus Georgicus prefers keepin' on his back! Remarkable yogi, id'nit, squire? Lovely level of conscious!
Mr. Praline: Look, I took the liberty of examining that yogi when I got him home, and I discovered the only reason that he had been sitting on his guddhi in the first place was that it had been NAILED there

• (Pause)

Sister-in-charge: Well, o'course he was nailed there! If I hadn't nailed that yogi down, he would have nuzzled up to those VIP, serving them Gyan and with his stage, VOOM! Feeweeweewee!
Mr. Praline: "VOOM"?!? Mate, this yogi wouldn't "voom" if you put four million volts through it! 'E's bleedin' demised!
Sister-in-charge: No no! 'E's pining!
Mr. Praline: 'E's not pinin'! 'E's passed on! This yogi is no more! He has ceased to be! 'E's expired and gone to meet 'is maker! This is a late yogi. 'E's a stiff! Bereft of life, 'e rests in peace! If you hadn't nailed 'im to the guddhi 'e'd be pushing up the daisies! 'Is metabolic processes are now 'istory! 'E's off the twig! 'E's kicked the bucket, 'e's shuffled off 'is mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisibile!! THIS IS AN EX-YOGI!!

• (Pause)

Sister-in-charge: Well, I'd better replace him, then.

• (She takes a quick peek behind the counter)

Mr. Praline:If you want to get anything done in this center, you have to complain until you are blue in the mouth.
Sister-in-charge: Sorry squire, I've had a look 'round the back of the shop, and uh, we're right out of yogis.
Mr. Praline: I see. I see, I get the picture.
Sister-in-charge: I got a serviceable VIP soul.

• (Pause)

Mr. Praline: Does it know any Gyan?
Sister-in-charge: Nnnnot really.
Mr. Praline: WELL IT'S HARDLY A BLOODY REPLACEMENT, IS IT?!!???!!?
Sister-in-charge: N-no, I guess not. (Gets ashamed, looks at her feet). Look if you go to my sister's Inner Space shop in Covent Garden, she will replace your yogi for you.
Mr. Praline: Well.

• (He does later at the Covent Garden Inner Space shop)

Mr. Praline: Is this a Raja Yoga Center?

• (Sister-in-charge with different clothes on)

Sister-in-charge:No, its an Inner Space Center.
Mr. Praline: (looking at the camera) That's the Brahma Kumaris for you!
Mr. Praline: I wish to make a complaint.
Sister-in-charge: I don't have to do this, you know!
Mr. Praline: I beg your pardon ...?
Sister-in-charge: I am a qualified Self Management Leader executive coach consultant! I only do this 'cause I like being my own boss!
Mr. Praline:Well, I wish to complain! I went to an Inner Space Shop but now I discover it is a Raja Yoga Center.
Sister-in-charge: No, it is an Inner Space Shop.
Mr. Praline: I see. I see, somebody is lying.
Sister-in-charge: Well, you cannot blame the Brahma Kumaris for that.
Mr. Praline: If this is an Inner Space Shop, I shall return to the Raja Yoga Center.

• (Zoom in on the bewildered sister-in-charge. Mr. Praline returns to the Inner Space Shop.)

Mr. Praline: I understand that this IS a Raja Yoga Center.
Sister-in-charge: (still in disguise) Yeah?
Mr. Praline: But you told me it was an Inner Space Shop!
Sister-in-charge: (a bit meekly) It was a pun.
Mr. Praline: A pun??
Sister-in-charge: No, no ... not a pun ... What's the other thing where it reads the same backwards as forwards?

• (Longish pause)

Mr. Praline: A palindrome ...?
Sister-in-charge: Yeah, yeah.
Mr. Praline: It's not a palindrome! The palindrome of "Raja Yoga Center" would be "Retnec a goy ajar!" It don't work!!
Sister-in-charge: Well, what do you want?
Mr. Praline: No, I am sorry! I am not prepared to pursue my line of inquiry any longer as I think this is getting too silly!
Sister-in-charge: Silly, sir?
Mr. Praline: And take off that disguise!
Sister-in-charge: (taking off disguise) Silly, sir?
Mr. Praline: Yes, silly! I've come in here with a perfectly legitimate complaint and you have done everything in your power to turn my life into a comedy of errors! This, therefore, is silly!

• (He slams his dead yogi down on the counter to illustrate the point.)

Sister-in-charge: Y-yeah. Silly.

• (Gets ashamed, looks at his feet)

Mr. Praline: Well.

• (Excruciatingly long pause.)

Mr. Praline: D'you ... d'you want to leave Gyan and come and marry me?

• (Pause.)

Sister-in-charge: (quietly) Yeah, all right.

• (They leave quickly, arm in arm.)

[sparkal]

As the TV news gleefully informs us that Christmas profits are up, and expects us all to join in the celebration, I wonder if the BKs have released any info on their Christmas profits? Then again, these modern charities don't make profit do they, it is those who earn from them who make.

Yes, this annual spiritual memorial based on love good wishes and tidings to our fellow souls, greeted with open wallets. The other side of the coin, it is not much fun being a BK in the work place, depending on ones experiences and depth etc.

The real issue here is that the gap between the BKs and Satanic capitalists is blurring slightly. Then there is the cultural thing where some cultures justify financial gain as being part of spirituality. Oh yeah?

They ARE God's children after all, you know, more special than others. Or at least, those who have been gotten rid of. You can do what you like then and believe the illusion thereafter. Remove the white ghost blanket and ... "We would have gotten away with it if it was not for you pesky kids and the Internet coming along and ruining everything".

[mr green]

hahaha hehehe

Yes, all 'workers' at Inner Spaces are voluntary, standard issue BKs. The running will definitely be subsidised by GCH. The Wembley one is actually quite big. It has a large room upstairs where the seminars are held. There are a few smaller rooms up there and a full kitchen.

[primal.logic]

On one of my stays in London it was drawn to my attention that there was an Indian Bk who had a shop and one of his lines was pornography - Playboy, Penthouse and the like. When I was talking to Jayanti I asked her about it and she said that as it was his business and related to the 'success' of that business he had been given permission to continue to sell porn. I found this even more laughable given that there was a newsagents near global cooperation house that did not sell any kind of porn. That business just seemed to be doing fine. No doubt these shudras had higher values and a better understanding of the Law of Karma.

PS love your work ex-l

[mitra]

:D We need everyone in Golden Age :D
IBHS
MITRA

[fluffy bunny]

:D We need everyone in Golden Age :D

Especially, "Asian Babes" it seems ... ;-)

There was an Indian BK who had a shop and one of his lines was pornography - Playboy, Penthouse and the like. When I was talking to Jayanti I asked her about it and she said that as it was his business and related to the 'success' of that business he had been given permission to continue to sell porn.

So ... "do anything as long as you succeed financially and never mind taking a moral stand"? Is this a universal principle or is soft porn OK where hardcore would not? I suppose the BK sold cigarettes as well?

There is a non-BK (Muslim) newsagent near us that has fought a well advertised battle against having porn in this shop and so individuals have choice. I remember being confused when I spoke to one Indian brother that ran a liquor store. Could he not change business? Would that not be changing his life practically?

The spirituality of changing without changing ... may be it just does not matter as long as the donations keep coming in as most of them will leave Gyan anyway ... one can be a virtuous porno seller instead of a vicious porno seller.

I don't know ... I am glad that I am out of it. But moral dilemmas are universal too.

[mitra]

:( Iam totally against anyone who run a shop containing goods which are against the principles of this organisation [brahmakumaris]. :cry: I am shocked to see this report. Anybody in LONDON please tell this brother to change his business [:!: It will be Godly service for you].

:roll: I hope that the senior BK sisters will take notice of this issue immediately. :|

IBHS
mitra

[arjun]

On one of my stays in London it was drawn to my attention that there was an Indian BK who had a shop and one of his lines was pornography - Playboy, Penthouse and the like. When I was talking to Jayanti I asked her about it and she said that as it was his business and related to the 'success' of that business he had been given permission to continue to sell porn.

I repeat what BK Mitra has said:

We need everyone in Golden Age

Those who sought and those who gave permission to sell porn :?: :?:

Although the case of BKs selling Pornography must be very rare, but BKs (or may be PBKs) selling cigarettes in their shops may be much more common phenomenon. I knew of at least one BK and one ex-PBK who used to sell cigarettes in their small roadside shop/ shop that was being run from their home. I know that they might not have been doing it willingly but due to poverty. :roll:

Regards,
OGS,
Arjun

[john]

When I was talking to Jayanti I asked her about it and she said that as it was his business and related to the 'success' of that business he had been given permission to continue to sell porn.

More proof that senior sisters shouldn't be taken seriously, would it be fair to say they know next to nothing?