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Sakar Murli, Revised on 31.10.2020

बाप को भी नई दुनिया स्थापन करने आना है। एक्यूरेट टाइम पर आते हैं। एक सेकेण्ड का भी उसमें फ़र्क नहीं पड़ सकता। यह भी अब तुम्हारी बेहद की बुद्धि हुई। तुम ही समझ सकते हो - पूरे 5 हज़ार वर्ष बाद बाप आकर प्रवेश करते हैं, इसलिए शिवरात्रि कहते हैं। कृष्ण के लिए जन्माष्टमी कहते हैं। शिव की जन्माष्टमी नहीं कहते, शिव की रात्रि कहते हैं क्योंकि अगर जन्म हो तो फिर मौत भी हो।
“The Father also has to come - in order to establish the New World. He comes at the ACCURATE time. There cannot be the difference of even ONE second in this. Your intellects have now become unlimited. Only you understand that the Father comes and enters (this body of Brahma Baba) after exactly 5000 years - which is why they say, ‘Night of Shiva’ (‘ShivRatri’). For Krishna, they say, ‘Janamashtmi’ (Birthday - of Krishna). They do not say, ‘Janamashtmi’ (‘Birthday - of Shiva’); they say, ‘Night of Shiva’ (‘ShivRatri’). This is because, if there were birth, there would also be death.”

‘ShivRatri’ has the SAME connotation as ‘Shiv Jayanti’ – but it is more APPROPRIATE to say ‘ShivRatri’, since the Divine incarnation of Shiva occurs during the EXTREME darkness of the Unlimited Night of Ravan Rajya. To say ‘Shiv Jayanti’ is NOT APPROPRIATE, because Shiva DOES NOT take birth through a womb, like ALL other embodied human souls; and if He had a birth, He would also have death – but He is BEYOND the cycle of birth and death!


मनुष्यों का जन्म दिन कहेंगे। शिव के लिए हमेशा शिवरात्रि कहते हैं। दुनिया में इन बातों का कुछ भी पता नहीं। तुम समझते हो शिवरात्रि क्यों कहते हैं, जन्माष्टमी क्यों नहीं कहते। उनका जन्म दिव्य अलौकिक है, जो और कोई का हो नहीं सकता। यह कोई जानते नहीं - शिवबाबा कब, कैसे आते हैं। शिवरात्रि का अर्थ क्या है, तुम ही जानते हो। यह है बेहद की रात। भक्ति की रात पूरी हो दिन होता है।
“ ‘Birthday’ would be said for human beings. For Shiva, ‘Shiv Ratri’ is always said (is more APPROPRIATE). No one in the world knows anything about these aspects. You understand why they say, ‘Shiv Ratri’, and why they should NOT say, ‘Janamashtmi’ (‘Birthday - of Shiva’). His Birth is Divine and UNIQUE, which NO ONE else can have. No one knows how Shiv Baba comes, or when He comes. ONLY you know the (CORRECT) meaning of ‘Shiv Ratri’. This is the Unlimited Night (of Ravan Rajya). When the ‘Night of Devotion’ finishes, there is the Day (of RamRajya).”

To say ‘Shiv Ratri’ is more APPROPRIATE, because the Birth of Supreme Soul Shiva is Divine and UNIQUE - which NO OTHER embodied human soul can have – and occurs during the EXTREME darkness of the Unlimited Night of Ravan Rajya, when the Unlimited Night has to CHANGE into the Unlimited Day!


हम अभी पुरूषोत्तम बन रहे हैं। पुरूषों में उत्तम पुरूष पढ़ाई से ही बनते हैं। पढ़ाई से ही चीफ जस्टिस आदि बनते हैं ना। तुमको बाप पढ़ाते हैं। इस पढ़ाई से ही अपने पुरूषार्थ अनुसार पद पाते हो। जितना जो पढ़ेंगे, उतना ग्रेड मिलेगी। इसमें राजाई की ग्रेड है। वैसे उस पढ़ाई में राजाई की ग्रेड नहीं होती है। तुम जानते हो हम राजाओं का राजा बन रहे हैं। तो अन्दर में कितनी खुशी होनी चाहिए। हम डबल सिरताज बहुत ऊंच बनते हैं। भगवान बाप हमको पढ़ाते हैं।
“We are becoming the most elevated. We become the highest among human beings ONLY through this Study. It is by studying that someone becomes the Chief Justice, etc. The Father is teaching you. You claim a status through this Study according to the efforts you make. One receives a grade, according to how much one studies. There is the grade of Sovereignty in this. In those studies, there is no grade for Sovereignty. You know that you are becoming the King of kings (a Sovereign). Therefore, there should be so much happiness within you. We are becoming very elevated and double-crowned (Purity & Prosperity). God, the Father, is teaching us.”

The EXTENSIVE Study of TRUE Gita & Easy RajYog enables one to achieve the HIGHEST status of a Sovereign, number-wise, during RamRajya, or the ‘Day of the Cycle’!
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Avyakt Vani 11.04.1986, Revised on 01.11.2020

हर कर्म में श्रेष्ठ और सफल रहना - इसको कहते नॉलेजफुल। शरीर की भी नॉलेज, आत्मा की भी नॉलेज। दोनों नॉलेज हर कर्म में चाहिए - शरीर के बीमारी की भी नॉलेज चाहिए – ‘मेरा शरीर किस विधि से ठीक चल सकता है?’ ऐसे नहीं आत्मा तो शक्तिशाली है - शरीर कैसा भी है! शरीर ठीक नहीं होगा, तो योग भी नहीं लगेगा - फिर शरीर अपनी तरफ खींचता है; इसलिए नॉलेजफुल में यह सब नॉलेज आ जाती है।

“To be successful and elevated in EVERY action is to be Knowledge-FULL. You have knowledge of the body, and also the Knowledge of the soul. Both types of knowledge are needed in EVERY action - the knowledge of any DIS-EASE of the body is also needed – ‘with which method can my body function well?’ Do not think that the soul is powerful anyway - so it does not matter about the body! If your body is not well, you will not be able to have Yoga - your body would then pull you to itself. This is why all of this knowledge is also included in being Knowledge-FULL.”
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Sakar Murli, Revised on 02.11.2020

बहुत रहमदिल बनना है। बोलो – ‘तुम भी पावन बन पावन दुनिया में जा सकते हो; अपने को आत्मा समझो, शिवबाबा को याद करो।’ शौक बहुत होना चाहिए, किसको भी रास्ता बताने का। जो खुद याद करते होंगे, वही दूसरों को याद कराने का पुरूषार्थ करेंगे। बाप तो नहीं जाकर बात करेंगे। यह तो तुम बच्चों का काम है। गरीबों का भी कल्याण करना है। बिचारे बहुत सुखी हो जायेंगे।

“You have to become very merciful. Tell them (the poor servants and natives) – ‘you too can become Pure and go to the Pure World; consider yourself to be a soul, and Remember Shiv Baba’. You should have a keen interest in showing others the path. Those who, themselves, stay in Remembrance, will also make efforts to remind others to stay in Remembrance. The Father is not going to go and speak to them; this is the duty of you children. You also have to bring benefit to the poor, so that they too become happy.”
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Sakar Murli, Revised on 03.11.2020

अब तुम रूहानी बच्चे जादूगर-जादूगरनी बन गये हो - इसलिए बाप को भी जादूगर कहते हैं। ऐसा कोई जादूगर नहीं होगा - जो मनुष्य को देवता बना दे। यह जादूगरी है ना। कितनी बड़ी कमाई कराने का तुम रास्ता बताते हो।
“You Spiritual Children have now become (Master Spiritual) Magicians – which is why the Father is also called the (Supreme Spiritual) Magician. There would not be any such Magician who can change human beings into Deities. This is Magic, is it not? You show the path (to others) to earn such a huge income.”


अब बाप कहते हैं - तुम पवित्र आत्मा थे, अब अपवित्र बने हो; फिर बाप को याद करते-करते तुम पवित्र बन जायेंगे। इस ज्ञान को सुनकर, नर से नारायण अथवा मनुष्य से देवता बन जाते हो। देवताओं की भी सावरन्टी है ना। तुम बच्चे अब श्रीमत पर भारत में डीटी सावरन्टी स्थापन कर रहे हो। बाप कहते हैं - अब मैं जो तुमको श्रीमत देता हूँ यह राइट है, या शास्त्र की मत राइट है? जज करो!
“The Father now says - you were Pure souls, but you have now become impure; then by remembering the Father, you will become Pure (once again). By listening to this Knowledge, you change from a (ordinary) human being into (an elevated Sovereign, like) Narayan, that is, from a human being into a Deity. There is also the Deity Sovereignty. You children are now establishing the Deity Sovereignty in Bharat by following Shrimat. The Father asks - is the Shrimat that I give you, RIGHT - or are the directions of the Scriptures, right? Judge for yourself!”

SIMILARLY, during Confluence Age – EVERYONE CONCERNED should JUDGE for themselves – whether the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge (TRUE Gita), delivered by Incorporeal God Father Shiva, ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice, of Brahma Baba, or soul of Lekhraj Kirpalani, is RIGHT – or, whether the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge (‘shooting’, or REFRESHING, of the FALSE Scriptures & FALSE Gita of Ravan Rajya), initiated by the Godly Form, or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, and propagated through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, who MASQUERADES as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God, (more specifically during the latter part of Confluence Age), is right!!!
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Sakar Murli, Revised on 04.11.2020

मनुष्य यह भी नहीं समझते कि यह ड्रामा है। इसमें क्रियेटर, डायरेक्टर भी ड्रामा के वश हैं। भल सर्वशक्तिमान् गाया जाता है - परन्तु तुम जानते हो वह भी ड्रामा के पट्टे पर चल रहे हैं। बाबा जो खुद आकर बच्चों को समझाते हैं, कहते हैं - मेरी आत्मा में अविनाशी पार्ट नूँधा हुआ है, उस अनुसार पढ़ाता हूँ। जो कुछ समझाता हूँ, ड्रामा में नूँध है।
“People do not understand that this is a Drama (Eternal World Drama Play), and that the Creator and Director (Incorporeal God Father Shiva) is also bound by Drama. Although He is remembered as the Almighty Authority, you know that He too is moving along on the track of Drama. Baba Himself comes and explains to you children. He says - I teach you according to the imperishable part that is recorded in Myself, the soul. Whatever I explain to you is FIXED (preordained) in Drama.”


तुम पूज्य थे, अब पुजारी बने हो। अब जितना योग में रहेंगे उतना कट उतरेगी, और बाप से लव होता जायेगा, खुशी भी होगी। बाबा साफ कहते हैं-बच्चे, चार्ट रखो कि सारे दिन में हम कितना समय याद करते हैं? याद की यात्रा, यह अक्षर राइट है। याद करते-करते कट निकलते-निकलते अन्त मती सो गति हो जायेगी।
“You were worthy of worship, and have now become worshipers. The more Yoga you have, the more the rust will be removed; your Love for the Father will continue to increase, and you will experience Happiness. Baba tells you clearly - children, keep a Chart of how much you stay in Remembrance throughout the whole day. The expression ‘pilgrimage of Remembrance’ is right. By staying in Remembrance, and thereby having your rust removed, your final thoughts will lead you to your (final) destination.”


हम जीव आत्माओं को परमात्मा पढ़ा रहे हैं। कल्प पहले भी ऐसे पढ़ाया था। कृष्ण की बात नहीं। वह तो छोटा बच्चा था। वह आत्मा, यह परम आत्मा। पहले नम्बर की आत्मा श्रीकृष्ण सो फिर लास्ट नम्बर में आ गई है। तो नाम भी अलग हो गया। बहुत जन्मों के अन्त के जन्म में नाम तो और होगा ना। कहते हैं - यह तो दादा लेखराज है। यह है ही बहुत जन्मों के अन्त का जन्म। बाप कहते हैं - मैं इनमें प्रवेश कर तुमको राजयोग सिखला रहा हूँ। बाप किसमें तो आयेंगे ना।
“The Supreme Soul (God) is teaching us embodied souls. He taught us in the same way in the previous Cycle also. This is not a question of Krishna; he was a small child (in Golden Age). He (Krishna) is a soul; whereas, this One (Shiva) is the Supreme Soul. Shri Krishna, the number one soul (in the beginning of Golden Age), then became the last number (at the end of Iron Age), and his name also changed. His name would definitely be different in the last of his many births. This one was called Dada Lekhraj. This is the last of his many births. The Father says - I enter this one and teach you RajYoga. The Father definitely has to enter someone.”


तुम जानते हो हम ही इतने ऊंच पवित्र थे, फिर गिरते आये हैं। अब फिर पवित्र बनना है। प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा के बच्चे सब बी.के. हो, तो क्रिमिनल दृष्टि हो न सके क्योंकि तुम भाई-बहन ठहरे ना। यह बाप युक्ति बताते हैं। तुम सब ‘बाबा-बाबा’ कहते रहते हो, तो भाई-बहन हो गये। भगवान को सब ‘बाबा’ कहते हैं ना। आत्मायें कहती हैं – ‘हम शिवबाबा के बच्चे हैं’। फिर शरीर में हैं तो भाई-बहन ठहरे। फिर हमारी क्रिमिनल आई क्यों जाये? ... हम सब एक बाप के बच्चे हैं। एक बाप के बच्चे फिर विकार में कैसे जा सकते हैं? भाई-भाई भी हैं, तो भाई-बहन भी हैं।
“You know that you, yourselves, used to be so elevated and Pure, and that you then continued to come down (became impure). You now have to become Pure (once again). All of you are children of PrajaPita Brahma; you are BKs. Therefore, because all of you are Brothers and Sisters, there must not be any criminal (lustful) vision. The Father shows you this technique. All of you continually say, ‘Baba, Baba’ - therefore, you are Brothers and Sisters. All of you call God (‘Bhagwan’) ‘Baba’. Souls say that they are the children of ShivBaba. Then, when they are in bodies, they are Brothers and Sisters. So, why should there be criminal vision? ...
All of us are the children of the ONE Father. Since we are the children of ONE Father, how can we indulge in vice (of sex-lust)? We are all Brothers (as bodiless souls); and also Brothers and Sisters (as embodied human beings).”


एक बाप के सिवाए और कोई याद न रहे। एकदम लाइन क्लीयर होनी चाहिए। अब हमारे 84 जन्म पूरे हुए। अब हम बाप के फरमान पर पूरा चलेंगे। काम महाशत्रु है, उनसे हार नहीं खानी है। हार खाकर फिर पश्चाताप् कर क्या करेंगे? एकदम हड्डी-हड्डी टूट जाती है। बहुत कड़ी सज़ा मिल जाती है। कट उतरने बदले, और ही जोर से चढ़ जाती है। योग लगेगा नहीं। याद में रहना बड़ी मेहनत है।
“You must not Remember anyone except ONE Father. Your line (of the intellect) should be very clear. Our 84 births are now coming to an end. We will now fully follow the Father's orders. Lust is the greatest enemy; we must not be defeated by lust. If you are defeated by it, you will have to repent, and then what will you do? Your bones will be completely broken. Very severe punishment is received. Instead of your rust being removed, you will become covered with even more rust. You will be unable to have Yoga. It takes great effort to stay in Remembrance.”
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Sakar Murli, Revised on 05.11.2020

ध्यान में आत्मा कहाँ जाती नहीं। आत्मा निकल जाए, तो शरीर खत्म हो जाए। यह सब हैं साक्षात्कार; रिद्धि-सिद्धि द्वारा ऐसे भी साक्षात्कार होते हैं, जो यहाँ बैठे विलायत की पार्लियामेन्ट आदि देख सकते हैं। बाबा के हाथ में फिर है दिव्य दृष्टि की चाबी। तुम यहाँ बैठे लण्डन देख सकते हो। औजार आदि कुछ नहीं, जो खरीद करना पड़े। ड्रामा अनुसार उस समय पर वह साक्षात्कार होता है, जो ड्रामा में पहले से ही नूँध है। जैसे दिखाते हैं - भगवान् ने अर्जुन को साक्षात्कार कराया। ड्रामा अनुसार उनको साक्षात्कार होना था। यह भी नूँध है। कोई की बड़ाई नहीं है। यह सब ड्रामा अनुसार होता है।
“Souls do not go anywhere (out of the body) when they go into trance. If a soul were to leave (one’s body), that body would finish. All of those things are visions; some also receive visions through occult power, such that they are able to see a Parliament abroad, while sitting there (within the body). Baba holds the key to Divine vision in His Hand. While sitting here you can see London. You do not need to buy any instruments, etc. According to Drama, visions are received at the right time that is fixed and preordained in Drama. God has been portrayed granting a vision to Arjuna. According to Drama, he had to have a vision. This too is fixed (and preordained). It is not anyone's greatness. All of this happens according to Drama.”


तो तुम बच्चों को बहुत खुशी रहनी चाहिए। हम आत्मा इस शरीर द्वारा बाबा को तो देखें। देखने में तो शरीर आता है, परमात्मा अथवा आत्मा को तो देख नहीं सकते। आत्मा और परमात्मा को जानना होता है। देखने लिए फिर दिव्य दृष्टि मिलती है। और सब चीज़ें दिव्य दृष्टि से बड़ी देखने में आयेगी। राजधानी बड़ी देखने में आयेगी। आत्मा तो है ही बिन्दी। बिन्दी को देखने से तुम कुछ भी नहीं समझेंगे। आत्मा तो बहुत महीन है।
“So, you children should have a lot of Happiness. I, a soul, should see Baba through this body. You can only see the body; you can neither see the Supreme Soul, nor a soul (with the corporeal eyes). It is a matter of understanding souls and the Supreme Soul (with Divine insight). You receive Divine insight to perceive (them). Everything that you see in a divine vision would be seen to be large. The kingdom will also be seen as large. A soul is just a Point. You would not understand anything by just seeing a Point. A soul is very subtle.”


बाप खुद कहते हैं - मुझे अपना शरीर नहीं है। मैं भी हूँ आत्मा, परन्तु मुझे ‘परमात्मा’ कहा जाता है। आत्मा ही सब कुछ करती है। बाकी शरीर के नाम बदलते हैं। आत्मा तो आत्मा ही है। मैं, परम आत्मा, तुम्हारे मुआफिक पुनर्जन्म नहीं लेता हूँ। मेरा ड्रामा में पार्ट ही ऐसा है, जो मैं इनमें प्रवेश कर, तुमको सुना रहा हूँ - इसलिए इनको ‘भाग्यशाली रथ’ कहा जाता है। इनको ‘पुरानी जुत्ती’ भी कहते हैं। शिवबाबा ने भी पुराना ‘लांग बूट’ पहना है। बाप कहते हैं - मैंने इसमें बहुत जन्मों के अन्त में प्रवेश किया है। पहले-पहले यह बनते हैं - तत् त्वम।
“The Father Himself says - I do not have a body of My own. I too am a soul, but I am called the ‘Supreme Soul’. It is souls who do everything. The names of the bodies continue to change. A soul is just a soul. I, the Supreme Soul, do not take rebirth like you do. My part is such in Drama that I enter this one (Brahma Baba) and speak (Knowledge) to you - which is why this one is called the ‘Lucky Chariot’ (‘Bhagyashali Rath’). He is also called an ‘old shoe’ (old body). Shiv Baba too wears an old ‘long boot’ (elderly, impure body of Brahma Baba). The Father says - I enter this one (Brahma Baba) at the end of the last of his many births. This one becomes this (Pure Deity), first of all - and the same applies to you!”
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Sakar Murli, Revised on 06.11.2020

बाप ही समझाते हैं, आत्मा कैसे पार्ट बजाती है। मनुष्य के मैक्सीमम 84 जन्मों से लेकर मिनीमम है एक-दो जन्म। आत्मा को पुनर्जन्म तो लेते रहना है। इससे सिद्ध होता है, बहुत जन्म लेने वाला बहुत पुनर्जन्म लेते हैं। थोड़े जन्म लेने वाला कम पुनर्जन्म लेते हैं। जैसे नाटक में कोई का शुरू से पिछाड़ी तक पार्ट होता है, कोई का थोड़ा पार्ट होता है। यह कोई मनुष्य नहीं जानते। आत्मा अपने को ही नहीं जानती, तो अपने बाप को कैसे जाने? आत्मा की बात है ना। बाप है आत्माओं का।
“Only the Father explains how souls play their parts. Human beings take - from a maximum of 84 births, to a minimum of one or two births. Souls have to continue to take rebirth. This proves that those who have many births also take many rebirths. Those who take fewer births have fewer rebirths. In a play too, some perform their parts from the beginning to the end; whereas, others only play small parts (towards the end). Human beings do not know this. Souls do not know themselves, so how can they know the Father? All of this applies to souls. The Father is the Father of souls.”

UNLESS & UNTIL an embodied human soul, who is body-conscious, FIRST understands, realizes, and EXPERIENCES that OWN self is a soul – such a soul CANNOT Re-Cognize, REAL-EYEs or EXPERIENCE the Father of souls, who is Incorporeal God Father Shiva - with Divine insight of the Third Eye of a Divine intellect!


तुमको अब ज्ञान का तीसरा नेत्र मिला है। तुम जानते हो हम सो देवता बनते हैं। अब शूद्र से ब्राह्मण बने हैं। कलियुगी ब्राह्मण भी हैं तो सही ना? वो ब्राह्मण लोग जानते नहीं कि हमारा धर्म, अथवा कुल कब स्थापन हुआ क्योंकि वह हैं ही कलियुगी। तुम अभी डायरेक्ट प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा की सन्तान बने हो, और सबसे ऊंच कोटि के हो। बाप बैठ तुम्हारी पढ़ाई की सर्विस, सम्भालने की सर्विस, और श्रृंगारने की सर्विस करते हैं। तुम भी हो ‘ऑन गॉडली सर्विस ओनली’। गॉड फादर भी कहते हैं - हम आये हैं सब बच्चों की सर्विस में। बच्चों को सुख का रास्ता बताना है।
“Each of you has now received a Third Eye of Knowledge. You know that you are becoming Deities, once again. You have now become Brahmins from ‘shudras’. The brahmins of Iron Age also exist, do they not? Because those brahmins are of Iron Age, they do not know when their religion and clan were established. You have now become the DIRECT Children of PrajaPita Brahma (through the Lotus Mouth of the soul of Lekhraj Kirpalani), and you belong to the highest clan. The Father sits here and does the Service of educating you, taking care of you, and decorating you. You are also ‘on Godly Service only’. God Father (Shiva) says - I have come on (Spiritual) Service of all of you children. I have to show you children the path of Happiness.”

Incorporeal God Father Shiva, does the Spiritual Service of educating the Righteous Children with the imperishable Jewels of the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge (TRUE Gita), taking care of them, and decorating them with Divine Virtues, Celestial Arts & Spiritual Powers, during Confluence Age, ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba – FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, UNTIL the end of Confluence Age!


बाबा ने यह भी समझाया है – ‘संगम’ के साथ ‘पुरूषोत्तम’ अक्षर जरूर लिखो। ‘त्रिमूर्ति’ अक्षर भी जरूर लिखना है, और ‘प्रजापिता’ अक्षर भी जरूरी है क्योंकि ‘ब्रह्मा’ नाम भी बहुतों के हैं। ‘प्रजापिता’ अक्षर लिखेंगे, तो समझेंगे साकार में प्रजापिता ठहरा। सिर्फ ‘ब्रह्मा’ लिखने से सूक्ष्मवतन वाला समझ लेते हैं। ब्रह्मा-विष्णु-शंकर को ‘भगवान’ कह देते हैं। ‘प्रजापिता’ कहेंगे तो समझा सकते हो - प्रजापिता तो यहाँ है। सूक्ष्मवतन में कैसे हो सकता?
“Baba has also explained that you must definitely write the words ‘most auspicious’ with ‘Confluence Age’. You must also write the word ‘Trimurti’ (Trinity); and the word ‘PrajaPita’ is also necessary, because many people are called ‘Brahma’. When you write the word ‘PrajaPita’, they can understand that the Father of Humanity (‘PrajaPita’) has to exist in a corporeal form. When you only write ‘Brahma’, they just consider him to be a resident of the Subtle Region (ONLY). They call Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar ‘Bhagwan’ (‘God’). When you say ‘PrajaPita’, you can explain that Prajapita is here (in ‘Sakar’ - PRIOR 1969; and, in ‘Akar’, thereafter). How could he be in the Subtle Region?”

Those who DO NOT have the CORRECT introduction, understanding and EXPERIENCE of Brahma Baba – and how Incorporeal God Father Shiva uses the body of Brahma Baba - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, UNTIL the end of Confluence Age – consider ‘Brahma’ to be a resident of the Subtle Region ONLY – since they DO NOT know and understand that Brahma Baba, himself, is the REAL, ORIGINAL PrajaPita of this EWD Play, who plays the role of PrajaPita Brahma through his impure corporeal body, UNTIL 1969 – and then he, himself, becomes an ‘Avyakt Farishta’, or COMPLETE Angel, in 1969 - after which he continues to play his part on this corporeal sphere through his subtle body, using the instrumental corporeal bodies of selected embodied souls, along with Incorporeal God Father Shiva!


जरूर बेहद के बाप से बेहद का वर्सा ही मिलना चाहिए। बाप से तुम वर्सा लेते हो - सिर्फ (ब्रह्मा) दादा द्वारा। दादा भी उनसे वर्सा ले रहे हैं। वर्सा देने वाला एक ही (शिव) है। उनको ही याद करना है। बाप कहते हैं - बच्चे, मैं इनके बहुत जन्मों के अन्त में आता हूँ, इनमें प्रवेश कर इनको भी पावन बनाता हूँ - जो फिर यह (ब्रह्मा बाबा) फरिश्ता बन जाते हैं।
“You would surely receive an Unlimited inheritance (of Sovereignty) from the Unlimited Father (Shiva). You receive the inheritance from the Father - ONLY THROUGH (Brahma) Dada. Dada is also claiming his inheritance from Him (Shiva). There is ONLY One (Shiva) who gives the inheritance. You must ONLY Remember Him. The Father says - children, I come and enter this one in the last of his many births, and purify him, so that he (Brahma Baba) then becomes an Angel (in 1969).”
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Sakar Murli, Revised on 07.11.2020

समझाने की बड़ी युक्ति चाहिए। शिवबाबा ब्रह्मा में प्रवेश कर हमको अपना बनाते हैं। शरीर में प्रवेश करे, तब तो कहे - हे आत्मा, तुम हमारे बच्चे हो। आत्मायें तो हैं ही, फिर ब्रह्मा द्वारा सृष्टि रची जायेगी, तो जरूर ब्रह्माकुमार-कुमारियां होंगे ना, तो बहन-भाई हो गये। दूसरी दृष्टि निकल जाती है। हम शिवबाबा से पावन बनने का वर्सा लेते हैं। रावण से हमको श्राप मिलता है। अभी हम देही-अभिमानी बनते हैं, तो बाप से वर्सा मिलता है। देह-अभिमानी बनने से रावण का श्राप मिलता है। श्राप मिलने से नीचे उतरते जाते हैं।
“You need to explain with great tact, how Shiv Baba enters Brahma and makes us belong to Him. It is only when He enters a body that He can say - O soul, you are My child. Souls exist anyway, and then, when the world is being created through Brahma, there would definitely be Brahma Kumars and Kumaris - therefore, they are Brothers and Sisters. Any other type of vision finishes. We are receiving our inheritance of Purity from Shiv Baba. We receive a curse from Ravan. When we become soul-conscious, we receive our inheritance from the Father. When we become body-conscious, we receive a curse from Ravan. By being cursed, we continue to come down.”


पुरूषार्थ कर पतित से पावन बनते रहो, रास्ता बताते रहो। कोई भी मित्र-सम्बन्धी आदि हैं, उन पर तरस पड़ना चाहिए। देखते हैं, यह विकार बिगर, गंद खाने बिगर रह नहीं सकते हैं, फिर भी समझाते रहना चाहिए। नहीं मानते, तो समझो हमारे कुल का नहीं है। कोशिश कर पियरघर, ससुरघर का कल्याण करना है। ऐसी भी चलन न हो जो कहें ‘यह तो हमसे बात भी नहीं करते, मुख मोड़ दिया है’ – नहीं! सबसे जोड़ना है। हम उनका भी कल्याण करें। बहुत रहमदिल बनना है। हम सुख तरफ जाते हैं, तो औरों को भी रास्ता बतायें। अन्धों की लाठी तुम हो ना।
“Make effort and continue to become Pure from impure; continue to show others the path. Have mercy for your friends and relatives. Even if you can see that someone is unable to stay without vice (of sex-lust) and continues to eat impure food, you should continue to explain to him. If he does not accept, you must understand that he does not belong to your clan. Make effort to benefit those from your parents' home and your in-laws’ home. Do not behave in such a way that others say (or feel) that ‘you are not talking to them, or that you have turned away from them’ – no! You have to stay in contact with everyone. You have to benefit them also. You have to become very merciful. We are going into happiness - therefore, we have to show this path to others also. You are sticks for the blind.”
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Avyakt Vani 01.10.1987, Revised on 08.11.2020

आज ‘स्नेह के सागर’ अपने स्नेही बच्चों से मिलने आये हैं। बाप और बच्चों का स्नेह, विश्व को स्नेह सूत्र में बांध रहा है। जब स्नेह के सागर और स्नेह सम्पन्न नदियों का मेल होता है, तो स्नेह-भरी नदी भी बाप समान ‘मास्टर स्नेह का सागर’ बन जाती है - इसलिए विश्व की आत्मायें स्नेह के अनुभव से स्वत: ही समीप आती जा रही हैं। पवित्र प्यार वा ईश्वरीय परिवार के प्यार से - कितनी भी अन्जान आत्मायें हों, बहुत समय से परिवार के प्यार से वंचित पत्थर समान बनने वाली आत्मा हो, लेकिन ऐसे पत्थर समान आत्मायें भी ईश्वरीय परिवार के स्नेह से पिघल, पानी बन जाती हैं। यह है ईश्वरीय परिवार के प्यार की कमाल। कितना भी स्वयं को किनारे करे, लेकिन ईश्वरीय प्यार चुम्बक के समान स्वत: ही समीप ले आता है। इसको कहते हैं - ईश्वरीय स्नेह का प्रत्यक्षफल। कितना भी कोई स्वयं को अलग रास्ते वाले मानें लेकिन ईश्वरीय स्नेह सहयोगी बनाए, ‘आपस में एक हो’, आगे बढ़ने के सूत्र में बांध देता है।
“Today, the ‘Ocean of Love’ (Shiva) has come to Meet His Loving Children. The Love of the Father and the Children is tying the world in the thread of Love. When the Meeting of the ‘Ocean of Love’ and the ‘Rivers full of Love’ takes place, the ‘Rivers full of Love’ also become ‘Master Oceans of Love’, like the Father. This is why souls of the world are automatically continuing to come close, with the experience of (Spiritual) Love. With pure Love, and Love of the Godly Family - no matter how unknowing (Spiritually innocent) souls are, how ‘stone-like’ (disheartened) they may have become through being deprived of the love of a family for a long time - even such ‘stone-like’ souls melt, and become like water, with the Love of the Godly Family. This is the wonder of the Love of the Godly Family. No matter how much they may keep themselves aloof, Godly Love automatically pulls them like a magnet and brings them close. This is called the practical Fruit of God's Love. No matter how much some consider themselves to be from a different path, God's Love makes them co-operative and ties them with the thread - ‘we are all one’ - and enables them to move forward.”


चारों ओर देखो, आप सभी मास्टर स्नेह के सागर, विश्व-सेवाधारी बच्चे क्या कार्य कर रहे हो? विश्व में ईश्वरीय परिवार के स्नेह का बीज बो रहे हो। जहाँ भी जाते हो - चाहे कोई नास्तिक हो वा आस्तिक हो, बाप को न भी जानते हों, न भी मानते हों - लेकिन इतना अवश्य अनुभव करते हैं कि ऐसा ईश्वरीय परिवार का प्यार, जो आप शिववंशी ब्रह्माकुमार-ब्रह्माकुमारियों से मिलता है, यह कहीं भी नहीं मिलता; और यह भी मानते हैं कि यह स्नेह वा प्यार साधारण नहीं है, यह अलौकिक प्यार है वा ईश्वरीय स्नेह है।
“Just see all around, what work, all of you ‘Master Oceans of Love’, you world server children, are doing! You are sowing seeds of Love of the Godly Family in the world. Wherever you go, whether someone is an atheist, or a theist - even if they do not know or accept the Father, but they definitely experience that they cannot receive such Love of the Godly Family anywhere else, which they receive from you Brahma Kumars and Kumaris (BKs), who belong to Shiva's clan. They also accept that this Love and affection is not ordinary, that this is unique Love - that it is Godly Love.”


अभी नम्बर नये बच्चों का है ना? आप लोग तो मिलन मनाते-मनाते अब वानप्रस्थ अवस्था तक पहुँचे हो। अभी अपने छोटे भाई-बहिनों को टर्न दे रहे हो। स्वयं वानप्रस्थी बने, तब औरों को चांस दिया। इच्छा तो सबकी बढ़ती ही जायेगी। सब कहेंगे - अभी भी मिलने का चांस मिलना चाहिए। जितना मिलेंगे, उतना और इच्छा बढ़ती जायेगी। फिर क्या करेंगे? औरों को चांस देना भी स्वयं तृप्ति का अनुभव करना है क्योंकि पुराने तो अनुभवी हैं, प्राप्ति-स्वरूप हैं। तो प्राप्ति-स्वरूप आत्मायें सर्व पर शुभ भावना रखने वाले, औरों को आगे रखने वाले हो। या समझते हो हम तो मिल लेवें? इसमें भी नि:स्वार्थी बनना है। समझदार हो। आदि, मध्य, अन्त को समझने वाले हो। समय को भी समझते हो। प्रकृति के प्रभाव को भी समझते हो। पार्ट को भी समझते हो।
“It is now the turn of the new ones (to Meet Baba), is it not? You (Seniors) have now reached the ‘stage of retirement’ whilst continuously celebrating Meetings. You are now giving your younger Brothers and Sisters their turn. It is because you became those who are in the ‘stage of retirement’ that you gave a chance to others. Of course, everyone's desires (to Meet) will continue to increase. Everyone will say that they should have a chance to Meet (Baba) even now. The more you Meet, the more your desire (to Meet) will increase. What will you do then? To give a chance to others means to experience yourself to be fully satisfied, because the older ones (Seniors) are experienced, and are ‘embodiments of attainments’. Souls who are ‘embodiments of attainments’ are those who have good wishes for everyone, the ones who keep others in front. Or, do you (Seniors) feel that you should also Meet now? You have to be altruistic in this too. You (Seniors) are sensible. You are those who understand the beginning, the middle and the end. You also understand the time. You understand the influence of matter. Each of you also understands the part (of BapDada).”
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Sakar Murli, Revised on 09.11.2020

तुम्हारा टाइम तो बहुत वैल्युबुल है। इस सारी दुनिया में तुम्हारे जितना वैल्युबुल टाइम कोई का है नहीं। बड़े-बड़े मनुष्यों का टाइम वैल्युबुल होता है। बाप का टाइम कितना वैल्युबुल है। बाप समझाकर क्या से क्या बना देते हैं। तो बाप तुम बच्चों को ही कहते हैं कि तुम अपना वैल्युबुल टाइम मत गँवाओ। नॉलेज, पात्र को ही देनी है। पात्र को समझाना चाहिए - सब बच्चे तो समझ नहीं सकते, इतनी बुद्धि नहीं जो समझें। पहले-पहले बाप का परिचय देना है। जब तक यह नहीं समझते कि हम आत्माओं का बाप (निराकार) शिव है, तो आगे कुछ भी नहीं समझ सकेंगे। बहुत प्यार, नम्रता से समझाकर रवाना कर देना चाहिए क्योंकि आसुरी सम्प्रदाय झगड़ा करने में देरी नहीं करेंगे।

“Your time is very valuable. Throughout this WHOLE world no one else's time is as valuable as yours. The time of important people is valuable. The Father's time is so valuable! The Father explains everything to you, and completely changes you. Therefore, the Father tells you children, alone – DO NOT WASTE your valuable time! Give Knowledge ONLY to those who are worthy. You have to explain (ONLY) to those who are worthy. Not all children can understand (this Knowledge); some do not have SUCH an (unlimited - deep, pure and subtle) intellect to understand (in the CORRECT PERSPECTIVE). First of all, give the Father's introduction. Until they understand (and EXPERIENCE) that the Father of us souls is (Incorporeal) Shiva, they will not be able to understand anything else further (in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE). Explain to them with a lot of Love and humility - and let them go, because those who belong to the Devil’s community (who are STILL body-conscious) will not hesitate to start an argument.”
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Sakar Murli, Revised on 10.11.2020

बच्चों को समझाया गया है कि यह है ज्ञान मार्ग। भक्ति मार्ग नहीं कहेंगे। ज्ञान सिर्फ एक ही ज्ञान सागर पतित-पावन देते हैं। तुमको पहले नम्बर का पाठ यही मिलता है - अपने को आत्मा समझ, बाप को याद करो। यह बहुत जरूरी है। और कोई भी सतसंग में किसी को कहने आयेगा नहीं। भल आजकल आर्टीफिशल संस्थायें बहुत निकली हैं। तुमसे सुनकर कोई कहे भी परन्तु अर्थ समझ न सके। समझाने का अक्ल नहीं आयेगा। यह तुमको ही बाप कहते हैं कि बेहद के बाप को याद करो तो विकर्म विनाश हो जाएं।
“It has been explained to you children that this is the ‘path of Knowledge’; this is not called the ‘path of Devotion’. ONLY One Ocean of Knowledge, the Purifier, gives Knowledge. The NUMBER ONE lesson you are taught is – (FIRST) consider yourselves to be souls, and (THEN) Remember the Father. This is MOST ESSENTIAL. In no other satsang would anyone know how to say this. Nowadays, there are MANY ARTIFICIAL institutions, where they might repeat this, AFTER having heard you, but they would NOT REALLY understand the meaning of it. They would NOT have the wisdom to explain it. The Father ONLY tells you children - Remember the Unlimited (Incorporeal) Father (Shiva) and your sins will be absolved.”

LIKEWISE, during the latter part of Confluence Age ALSO – many ARTIFICIAL institutions, FALSELY claiming to give Godly Knowledge, repeat and propagate the randomly selected points of Knowledge from the SMs & AVs, or TRUE Gita - WITHOUT comprehending same in the CORRECT PERSPECTIVE, and WITHOUT having the wisdom and the insight to CORRECTLY CLARIFY the ORIGINAL INTENT of Incorporeal God Father Shiva – by CRAFTILY MISINTERPRETING, MISREPRESENTING, MISAPPROPRIATING & MANIPULATING them, to be in ACCURATE CONSONANCE with the DISTORTED & PERVERTED CONCEPTS of ‘Rajopradhan & Tamopradhan Bhakti’ of the ‘path of Devotion’ of Ravan Rajya - the sole purpose being to carry out the EXACT ‘shooting’, or REFRESHING, of the FALSE Scriptures & FALSE Gita, of the ‘path of Devotion’ of Ravan Rajya – ALL, PERFECTLY, in ACCORDANCE with this EWD Play – NOTHING NEW!


अभी कलियुग है; तुम सतयुग के लिए पढ़ते हो। ऐसा पढ़ाने वाला तो कोई भी नहीं होगा जो कहे कि इस पढ़ाई से तुमको नई दुनिया में राज्य पद मिलेगा। बाप के सिवाए और कोई बोल न सके। तुम बच्चों को हर बात की स्मृति दिलाई जाती है। ग़फलत नहीं करनी है। बाबा सबको समझाते रहते हैं। कहाँ भी बैठो, धंधा आदि करो अपने को आत्मा समझ करो।
“It is now the Iron Age; you are now studying for the Golden Age. There would not be anyone who would TEACH you in this way, and say that you can claim a Sovereign status in the New World through this Study. No one else, other than the Father, can say this. You children are reminded of EACH aspect. DO NOT commit (Spiritual) BLUNDERS. Baba continues to explain to everyone - wherever you are sitting, or whatever work you are doing, do that while considering yourself to be a soul.”

The EXTENSIVE Study of the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge (TRUE Gita) & Easy RajYoga, enables one to achieve the status of a Sovereign - number-wise, in the New World of RamRajya!
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Sakar Murli, Revised on 11.11.2020

बाप खुद बैठ समझाते हैं - ब्रह्मा के चित्र पर ही मूंझते हैं कि दादा को क्यों बिठाया है। समझाना चाहिए - यह तो भागीरथ है। शिव भगवानुवाच है - यह रथ मैंने लिया है क्योंकि मुझे प्रकृति का आधार जरूर चाहिए। नहीं तो मैं तुमको पतित से पावन कैसे बनाऊं? रोज़ पढ़ाना भी जरूर है। अब बाप तुम बच्चों को कहते हैं - अपने को आत्मा समझ मामेकम् याद करो। सभी आत्माओं को अपने बाप को याद करना है। कृष्ण को सभी आत्माओं का बाप नहीं कहेंगे - उनको तो अपना शरीर है।

“The Father Himself sits here and explains - people are confused about the picture of Brahma and ask, ‘why do you place Dada (Lekhraj Kirpalani) here’ (in place of Brahma)? You have to explain that this one (Lekhraj Kirpalani) is the ‘Lucky Chariot’. God Shiva speaks - I have taken this Chariot (body) because I definitely require the support of matter. How else would I make you Pure from impure? I definitely have to teach you every day. The Father now says to you children – (FIRST) consider yourselves to be souls, and (THEN) constantly Remember Me, alone. All souls have to Remember their Father. Krishna cannot be said to be the Father of all souls - he has his own body.”
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Sakar Murli, Revised on 12.11.2020

पढ़ाई में इनकम है। वह भी ग्रंथ बैठ पढ़कर सुनाते हैं तो कमाई होती है - झट शरीर निर्वाह निकल आयेगा। साधू बना, एक दो शास्त्र बैठ सुनाया, इनकम हो जायेगी। अभी यह सब ‘सोर्स आफ इनकम’ है। हर एक बात में इनकम चाहिए ना। पैसे हैं तो कहाँ भी घूम फिर आओ। तुम बच्चे जानते हो - बाबा हमको बहुत अच्छी पढ़ाई पढ़ाते हैं, जिससे 21 जन्मों की इनकम मिलती है। यह इनकम ऐसी है, जो हम सदा सुखी बन जायेंगे।
“There is an income in studying. They sit and relate the Granth (Sikh Scripture), through which they also earn an income – they earn their bodily livelihood very quickly. Some become ‘sadhus’, and sit and relate one or two scriptures, and are able to earn an income. All of those are sources of income. An income is necessary in every aspect. If you have money, you can go touring anywhere. You children know that Baba is giving you a very good education, through which you receive an income for 21 births (during RamRajya). This income is such that you become ever happy (in the New World).”


आत्मा ही एक शरीर छोड़ दूसरा लेती है। फिर पार्ट बजाती है। मनुष्य फिर आत्मा के बदले अपने को शरीर समझ लेते हैं। मैं आत्मा हूँ, यह भूल जाते हैं। मैं कभी भूलता नहीं हूँ। तुम आत्मायें सभी हो सालिग्राम। मैं हूँ परमपिता, माना परम आत्मा। उनके ऊपर कोई दूसरा नाम नहीं है। उस परम आत्मा का नाम है शिव। हो तुम भी ऐसे ही आत्मा, परन्तु तुम सब सालिग्राम हो।
“ It is the soul who sheds one body and takes another, and continues to play a part. Instead of souls, people consider themselves to be bodies; they have forgotten that they are souls. I never forget this. All of you souls are ‘saligrams’. I am the Supreme Father, which means the Supreme Soul. He does not have any other name. The Name of the Supreme Soul is Shiva. All of you are also souls, like Him, but you are called ‘saligrams’. ”
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Sakar Murli, Revised on 13.11.2020

अभी दीपावली मनाते हैं - वास्तव में सच्ची-सच्ची दीवाली याद की यात्रा ही है, जिससे आत्मा की ज्योति 21 जन्मों के लिए जग जाती है। बहुत कमाई होती है। तुम बच्चों को बहुत खुशी होनी चाहिए। अभी तुम्हारा नया खाता शुरू होता है - नई दुनिया के लिए। 21 जन्मों के लिए खाता अभी जमा करना है।
“People celebrate Deepawali (festival of lights) - in fact, the TRUE Diwali is the pilgrimage of Remembrance, through which the Lights of you souls are ignited for 21 births. You earn a huge income. You Children should have a great deal of Happiness. Your new account for the New World commences NOW. You now have to accumulate an income for 21 births.”


कहते भी हैं ‘शिवबाबा’; ब्रह्मा को भी ‘बाबा’ कहते हैं। विष्णु को कभी ‘बाबा’ नहीं कहेंगे। प्रजापिता तो बाबा ठहरा ना। तुम हो बी.के. - प्रजापिता नाम न होने से समझते नहीं हैं। इतने ढेर बी.के. हैं, तो जरूर प्रजापिता ही होगा - इसलिए ‘प्रजापिता’ अक्षर जरूर डालो। तो समझेंगे प्रजापिता तो हमारा ही बाप ठहरा। नई सृष्टि जरूर प्रजापिता द्वारा ही रची जाती है।
“They say ‘Shiv Baba’; and they also call Brahma, ‘Baba’ (‘Father’). They would never call Vishnu, (or Shankar) ‘Baba’. PrajaPita is also ‘Baba’ (‘Father’). You are BKs. When you do not use the title ‘PrajaPita’, they do not understand. There are so many BKs, and so there must also surely be PrajaPita. This is why you must definitely write the word ‘PrajaPita’. Then they will understand that Prajapita is also their (‘Alokik’) Father. The New World is definitely created through PrajaPita (by Incorporeal God Father Shiva).”


हम आत्मायें भाई-भाई हैं; फिर शरीर धारण कर भाई-बहन हो जाते। बाप के बच्चे तो अविनाशी हैं, फिर साकार में बहन-भाई चाहिए। तो नाम है प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा। परन्तु ब्रह्मा को कोई हम याद नहीं करते। याद लौकिक को करते, और पारलौकिक को करते हैं। प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा को कोई याद नहीं करते। दु:ख में बाप का सिमरण करते हैं - ब्रह्मा का नहीं। कहेंगे ‘हे भगवान’! ‘हे ब्रह्मा’ नहीं कहेंगे!
“ We souls are first Brothers; then, when we adopt bodies, we become Brothers and Sisters. The children of the Father are imperishable souls; then, in the corporeal form, we are Brothers and Sisters. This is why there is the name PrajaPita Brahma. However, we do not remember Brahma. Only worldly fathers, and the (Incorporeal) Father from beyond the world, are remembered. No one remembers PrajaPita Brahma. At a time of sorrow people remember the (Incorporeal) Father, not (corporeal, or subtle) Brahma. They say, ‘Oh God’! They never say, ‘Oh Brahma’! ”


तुम जानते हो इस समय हैं 3 बाप। भक्तिमार्ग में लौकिक और पारलौकिक बाप को याद करते हैं। सतयुग में सिर्फ लौकिक को याद करते हैं। संगम पर तीनों को याद करते हैं। लौकिक भी है, परन्तु जानते हैं वह है हद का बाप, उनसे हद का वर्सा मिलता है। अभी हमको बेहद का बाप मिला है, जिससे बेहद का वर्सा मिलता है। यह समझ की बात है।
“You know that you have three fathers at this time. On the ‘path of Devotion’ (during Ravan Rajya) they remember their worldly fathers, and the (Incorporeal) Father from beyond. In the Golden Age they only remember their worldly fathers. At the Confluence Age, you remember all three fathers. You too have worldly fathers, but you understand that they are limited fathers, you receive a limited inheritance from them. We have now found the Unlimited (‘Parlokik’) Father (Shiva) from whom we receive an Unlimited inheritance (ONLY THROUGH the ‘Alokik’ Father – Brahma Baba). This is an aspect to be understood (in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE).”
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Sakar Murli, Revised on 14.11.2020

अब लक्ष्मी की कितनी पूजा होती है। कई बच्चे लिखते हैं – ‘लक्ष्मी बड़ी या सरस्वती माँ बड़ी?’ लक्ष्मी तो एक होती है - श्री नारायण की। अगर महालक्ष्मी को पूजते हैं, तो उनको 4 भुजा दिखाते हैं। उसमें दोनों आ जाते हैं। वास्तव में उसको लक्ष्मी-नारायण की पूजा कहा जाए। चतुर्भुज है ना - दोनों इकट्ठे। परन्तु मनुष्यों को कुछ भी समझ नहीं है।
“Now they worship Lakshmi so much. Some children write (and ask) – ‘is Lakshmi greater, or is Mother Saraswati (‘Maa’) greater?’ Lakshmi is one who belongs to just Shri Narayan. When they worship Maha-Lakshmi, they show her with four arms. That image represents BOTH of them (Lakshmi & Narayan). That should actually be called the worship of Lakshmi & Narayan; they show a four-armed image because BOTH of them are together - but human beings do not understand anything (in the CORRECT PERSPECTIVE).”


अब शिवबाबा तो है निराकार, सुप्रीम सोल। उस आत्मा पर नाम है शिव। आत्मा पर नाम एक ही शिवबाबा का है। बस वह है परम आत्मा, परमात्मा, उनका नाम है शिव। बाकी जो भी आत्मायें ढेर की ढेर हैं, उन सबके शरीरों के नाम पड़े हुए हैं। शिवबाबा यहाँ रहता नहीं है, वह तो परमधाम से आते हैं। शिव अवतरण भी है। ... उनका जन्म दिन और चले जाने का दिन, डेट आदि का भी पता नहीं पड़ सकता क्योंकि यह तो न्यारा है ना, इसलिए सिर्फ ‘शिवरात्रि’ कह देते हैं।
“Shiv Baba is Incorporeal - He is the Supreme Soul. The Name of that Soul is Shiva. It is ONLY ONE Shiv Baba whose name is given only to the Soul. He is the Supreme Soul, God (‘Paramatma’), and His name is Shiva. All other (human) souls have names given to their bodies. Shiv Baba does not reside here; He comes from the Supreme Abode. There is the incarnation of Shiva. ... No one can know the day of His Birth, or the day of His departure, because He is unique (does not have any body of His own) - which is why they simply speak of Shiv Ratri.”
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