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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 19.11.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
अंग्रेजी अक्षर अच्छे हैं। तुम कहेंगे बाबा अंग्रेजी नहीं जानते। बाबा कहते हैं, मैं कहाँ तक सब भाषायें बैठ बोलूंगा। मुख्य है ही हिन्दी। तो मैं हिन्दी में ही मुरली चलाता हूँ। जिसका शरीर धारण किया है, वह भी हिन्दी ही जानता है। तो जो इनकी भाषा है, वही मैं भी बोलता हूँ। और कोई भाषा में थोड़ेही पढ़ाऊंगा। मैं फ्रैन्च बोलूँ तो यह कैसे समझेगा? मुख्य तो इनकी (ब्रह्मा की) बात है। इनको तो पहले समझना है ना। दूसरे कोई का शरीर थोड़ेही लेंगे!
“The English words are good. You would say that (Shiv)Baba does not know English. Baba says: To what extent would I sit and speak in all the languages? The main language is Hindi. So, I speak the Murli ONLY in Hindi. The one whose body I have adopted (soul of DLR), also knows Hindi. Therefore, I also speak the same language that he knows. I would not TEACH You in any other language. If I were to speak French, how would THIS one understand? The main question is about this one (Brahma Baba). He has to understand FIRST. I would NOT take the body of ANYONE ELSE (OTHER than soul of DLR, in ‘Sakar’)!

The Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God DOES NOT take the corporeal body of ANYONE ELSE on this corporeal sphere, in ‘Sakar’, OTHER THAN REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev!


बाप और बाप के घर का तो किसको भी पता नहीं है। गपोड़ा मारते रहते हैं। अनेक मनुष्यों की अनेक मतें हैं, इसलिए सूत मूंझा हुआ है। बाप देखो कैसे बैठे हुए हैं। यह चरण किसके हैं? (शिवबाबा के) वह तो हमारे हैं ना। मैंने लोन दिया है। शिवबाबा तो ‘टेम्पररी यूज़’ करते हैं। वैसे यह चरण तो मेरे हैं ना। शिव के मन्दिर में चरण नहीं रखते हैं। चरण कृष्ण के रखते हैं। शिव तो है ऊंच ते ऊंच, तो उनके चरण कहाँ से आये। हाँ, शिवबाबा ने उधार लिया है। चरण तो ब्रह्मा के ही हैं। मन्दिरों में बैल दिखाया है। बैल पर सवारी कैसे होगी? बैल पर शिवबाबा कैसे चढ़ेंगे? सालिग्राम आत्मा सवारी करती है, मनुष्य के तन पर। बाप कहते हैं, मैं जो तुमको ज्ञान सुनाता हूँ वह प्राय:लोप हो गया है। आटे में नमक मिसल रह गया है। उसको कोई भी समझ नहीं सकते। मैं ही आकर उसका सार समझाता हूँ।
“No one knows about the Father, or the Father’s Home (Soul World). They continue to tell LIES. There are innumerable opinions of innumerable people, and this is why the thread has become entangled. Look how the Father is sitting here! Whose feet are these? (someone said, ShivBaba's). (Brahma Baba said) They are my feet; I have given them on loan. ShivBaba only uses them temporarily, but otherwise they are my feet. They do not show feet in the Shiva Temple; they show Krishna’s feet. Shiva is the Highest-on-High, and so where would His feet come from? Yes, ShivBaba has taken them on loan, but they are Brahma's feet. They have shown a bull in the temples. How could He ride a bull? How would ShivBaba sit on a bull? The ‘saligram’ soul rides the human body. The Father says: The knowledge that I spoke to You has disappeared. Only little remains, just like ‘a pinch of salt in a handful of flour’, which NO ONE can understand (in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE). I, Myself, come and explain the ESSENCE of same (to You).

The Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or GodHIMSELF, comes and explains ONLY the ‘Satopradhan’ ESSENCE of ALL the Scriptures & Vedas of the outer World of Ravan Rajya, to the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins - ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his ELEVATED SUBTLE body, AFTER 1969 – using the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar, WHENEVER SO REQUIRED – and ALSO through the Third Eye of the Divine intellects of the Righteous Children, who have since ALSO DEVELOPED their OWN ‘akari’ or subtle stage of consciousness, UNTIL the VERY END of Confluence Age!


मैंने ही श्रीमत देकर सृष्टि चक्र का राज़ समझाया था, उन्होंने फिर देवताओं को स्वदर्शन चक्र दिखा दिया है। उनके पास तो ज्ञान है नहीं। यह है सारी ज्ञान की बात। आत्मा को सृष्टि चक्र की नॉलेज मिलती है, जिससे माया का सिर काटा जाता है। उन्होंने फिर स्वदर्शन चक्र असुरों के पिछाड़ी फेंकते हुए दिखाया है। इस स्वदर्शन चक्र से तुम माया पर जीत पाते हो। कहाँ की बात कहाँ ले गये हैं। तुम्हारे में भी कोई बिरले यह बातें धारण कर और समझा सकते हैं।
“I, Myself, gave You ‘Shrimat’, and explained the secrets of the World Cycle to You (in Confluence Age); and they have, THEN, given the discus of Self-Realisation to the Deities (of Golden Age). They (the Deities) do not have any Knowledge. All of these are aspects of Knowledge. Souls receive Knowledge of the World Cycle, with which Maya’s head is cut off. They have then shown the discus of Self-Realisation being thrown at the devils. You gain victory over Maya with this discus of Self-Realisation. They have taken the aspects of ONE time period into ANOTHER. Among You too, scarcely a few are able to imbibe these aspects, and then explain to others.

The BLIND Unrighteous children are TOTALLY UNAWARE - that the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, is initiated by the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, etc., and propagated through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, who ALSO MASQUERADES as ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – and that the aspects of ONE time period have been INADVERTENTLY taken into ANOTHER – thus making THOROUGH IDIOTS out of them!


लिखा हुआ है, ‘अजामिल जैसे पापियों का उद्धार किया’, परन्तु उसका अर्थ भी समझते नहीं। वह समझते हैं कि ज्योति ज्योत में समा गया। सागर में लीन हो गया। पांच पाण्डव हिमालय में गल गये। प्रलय हो गई। एक तरफ दिखाते हैं, वह राजयोग सीखे, फिर प्रलय दिखा दी है, और फिर दिखाते हैं कि कृष्ण अंगूठा चूसता हुआ पीपल के पत्ते पर आया। उसका भी अर्थ नहीं समझते। वह तो गर्भ महल में था। अंगूठा तो बच्चे चूसते हैं। कहाँ की बात कहाँ लगा दी है। मनुष्य तो जो सुनते, वह ‘सत-सत’ कहते रहते हैं।
“It is written that ‘sinners like Ajamil were also uplifted’, but no one understands the meaning of that also. They believe that souls merge into the Light, or that they merged into the Ocean, that the five Pandavas melted on the Himalayas, and that annihilation took place. On the one hand, they have shown that they studied RajYog, and then they have shown annihilation. Then they have shown Krishna coming, floating on a pipal leaf, sucking his thumb. They do not understand the meaning of that either. He (Krishna) was in the ‘palace of a womb’. A baby would be sucking his thumb. They have taken the aspects of one place somewhere else. People continue to say, ‘true, true’, to whatever they hear.

AFTER EXPOSING their intellects to the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, the INNOCENT/IGNORANT intellects of the BLIND Unrighteous children get ADULTERATED, CORRUPTED, PERVERTED, INVERTED & DEGRADED to such an EXTENT, that they READILY take the aspects of one place SOMEWHERE ELSE, WITHOUT QUESTION, and CONTINUE to BLINDLY keep saying ‘true, true’, to WHATEVER Spiritual GARBAGE, which the Defamer Of God - who is their bodily guru, MASQUERADING as ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, ‘Shiv-Shankar-Bholenath’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – INDOCTRINATES them with, under the ACTIVE INFLUENCE of the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya – thus becoming instrumental to carry out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!
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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 20.11.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
याद से ही विकर्म विनाश होंगे। धारणा नहीं होती है क्योंकि विकर्म बहुत किये हुए हैं, जिस कारण बाप को भी याद नहीं कर सकते हैं। जितना बाप को याद करेंगे, उतना विकर्माजीत बनेंगे, हेल्थ मिलेगी। है बहुत सहज, परन्तु माया अथवा पास्ट के विकर्म रूकावट डालते हैं। बाप कहते हैं, तुमने आधाकल्प अयथार्थ याद किया है।
“Sins will be absolved ONLY through (ACCURATE) Remembrance. Inculcation does not take place, because many sins have been committed, due to which You are even unable to Remember the Father (ACCURATELY). The more You Remember the Father, the more You will become conquerors of sinful actions, and the healthier You will become. It is very easy; yet Maya, or the sins of the past, hinders You. The Father says: For half a Cycle you have been remembering Me INACCURATELY.”

There is hindrance to Remembrance on account of past sins, which can be absolved ONLY through ACCURATE Remembrance – although this appears to be paradoxical, YET, PERSISTENT & CONSTANT efforts, to maintain ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of ONLY ONE Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, ALONE - will ULTIMATELY enable one to OVERCOME this hindrance, and achieve victory over Maya.


परन्तु यह याद की आदत पड़ जानी चाहिए। एवर निरोगी बनाने लिए सर्जन दवाई देते हैं कि मुझे याद करो। फिर तुम मेरे से आकर मिलेंगे। मुझे याद करने से ही वर्सा पायेंगे। बाप और स्वीटहोम को याद करना है। जहाँ जाना है, वह बुद्धि में रखना है। बाप ही यहाँ आकर सच्चा पैगाम देते हैं, और कोई भी ईश्वर का पैगाम नहीं देते हैं।
“However, this habit of (ACCURATE) Remembrance must be instilled. In order to make You EVER free from disease, the (Supreme) Surgeon (Shiva) gives You medicine: Remember Me! Then, You will come and meet Me. You will attain your inheritance ONLY by Remembering Me. Remember the Father and the Sweet Home (Soul World). Keep in your intellects the place You have to return to. Only the Father comes here and gives You the TRUE Message. No one else can give You God’s Message.”

The Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, HIMSELF, comes to this corporeal sphere, to give the TRUE Message to the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, in PARTICULARAND, to ENTIRE Humanity, in GENERAL - to have ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of Him, ALONEas a POINT source of Spiritual Light Energy – by FIRST considering the Self ALSO as a soul – also as a Point source of Spiritual Light Energy – and ALSO to Remember the Supreme Abode, or the Soul World, or the Sweet Silence Home, where all individual human souls reside.


बाप की याद से ही पावन बनना है। बाप कहते हैं, पावन बनने का एक ही उपाय है - देह सहित जो भी देह के सम्बन्ध हैं, उनको भूल जाना है। तुम जानते हो, मुझ आत्मा को याद करने का फ़रमान मिला है। उस पर चलने से ही ‘फ़रमानबरदार’ कहा जायेगा। जो जितना पुरुषार्थ करते हैं उतना फ़रमानबरदार हैं। याद कम करते तो कम फ़रमानबरदार हैं। ‘फ़रमानबरदार’ पद ही ऊंच पाते हैं। बाप का फ़रमान है - एक तो मुझ बाप को याद करो, दूसरा नॉलेज को धारण करो।
“You have to become pure ONLY by Remembering the Father. The Father says: There is ONLY ONE method for purification: forget all your bodily relations, including your own body. You (NOW) know: I, the soul, have been given the direction to have (ACCURATE) Remembrance. By following this direction, You will be called obedient. The more effort You make in this, the more obedient You become. If You have less Remembrance, it means that You are less obedient. ONLY the obedient ones claim a high status. The Father’s direction is: Firstly, Remember Me, your Father; and secondly, imbibe this Knowledge.”

Self-explanatory.


माला का दाना जो बनते हैं, उनको पुरुषार्थ बहुत करना है। बाबा ने कहा था - ब्राह्मणों की माला अभी नहीं बन सकती है, अन्त में बनेगी, जब रूद्र की माला बनेगी। ब्राह्मणों की माला के दाने बदलते रहते हैं। आज जो 3-4 नम्बर में हैं, कल वह लास्ट में चले जाते हैं। कितना फ़र्क हो जाता। कोई गिरते हैं, तो दुर्गति को पा लेते। माला से तो गये, प्रजा में भी बिल्कुल चण्डाल जाकर बनते हैं। अगर माला में पिरोना है, तो उसके लिए बड़ी मेहनत करनी पड़े।
“Those who are to become the beads of the Rosary have to make a GREAT DEAL of effort. Baba had said that the ‘Rosary of Brahmins’ cannot be created now; it will only be created at the end, when the ‘Rosary of Rudra’ is created. The beads of the ‘Rosary of Brahmins’ keep changing. Those who are in the third, or fourth, number today, become the last ones tomorrow. There is such a difference! Some fall and become degraded. Having fallen out of the Rosary, they then go and become cremators among the subjects. If You want to be threaded in the Rosary, then You have to make a GREAT DEAL of effort.

The ‘Rosary of Brahmins’ CANNOT be created during the Confluence Age, since their Spiritual stage keeps on FLUCTUATING – and can be created ONLY at the VERY END of Confluence Age, when it is called as the ‘Rosary of Rudra’, which comprises of the MOST ELEVATED, PURE bodiless souls – who, THEMSELVES, THEN get threaded into the ‘Rosary of Vishnu’, as the MOST ELEVATED, PURE souls within PURE corporeal bodies, in the beginning of Golden Age!
One has to make a GREAT DEAL of effort in order to get threaded into this MOST ELEVATED ‘Rosary of Rudra’ at the end of Confluence Age, and THEN into the MOST ELEVATED ‘Rosary of Vishnu’ in the beginning of Golden Age!
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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 21.11.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
बाप का परिचय कैसे देना चाहिए - यह भी अक्ल होना चाहिए। ‘शिवाए नम:’ भी जरूर है। वही मात-पिता ऊंच ते ऊंच है। ब्रह्मा, विष्णु, शंकर तो रचना हैं। उनको क्रियेट करने वाला जरूर बाप होगा, माँ भी होनी चाहिए। सबका गॉड फादर तो एक है जरूर। निराकार को ही गॉड कहा जाता है। क्रियेटर हमेशा एक ही होता है। पहले-पहले तो परिचय देना पड़े अल्फ का।
You should have the wisdom (of knowing) how to give the Father's introduction. They definitely say: ‘Salutations to Shiva’. He, ALONE, is the Highest-on-High (‘Parlokik’) Mother & Father. Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar are a creation. The One who created them must definitely be the (‘Parlokik’) Father (Incorporeal Shiva); and the (‘Alokik’) Mother (corporeal Brahma Baba) is also required. God Father of ALL is definitely One. ONLY the Incorporeal One is called God. The Creator is always just ONE. FIRST of ALL, You have to give the introduction of Alpha (‘Alif’ - Incorporeal God Father Shiva).

The term, Alpha (‘Alif’), pertains to ONLY ONE Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, ALONE – and CANNOT pertain to ANY embodied soul on this corporeal sphere!


पहले अल्फ की पहचान देनी है। बाप भी निराकार है, आत्मा भी निराकार है। ... हेविन का रचयिता कौन है? जरूर ‘हेविनली गॉड फादर’ ही होगा। वह निराकार होना चाहिए। पहले-पहले फादर की पहचान देनी पड़ती है। कृष्ण को, और ब्रह्मा, विष्णु, शंकर को, फादर नहीं कहेंगे। उनको तो रचा जाता है। जब सूक्ष्मवतन वालों को भी रचा जाता है, वह भी क्रियेशन है, फिर स्थूल वतन वालों को भगवान् कैसे कहेंगे? गाया जाता है देवताए नम:, वह है शिवाए नम:, मुख्य है ही यह बात।
FIRST, give the Re-Cognition of Alpha (‘Alif’ - Incorporeal God Father Shiva). The Father is also Incorporeal, and souls are also incorporeal. ... Who is the Creator of Heaven? He would definitely be ‘Heavenly God Father’ (Incorporeal Shiva). He has to be the Incorporeal. FIRST of ALL, You have to give the introduction of the (Incorporeal, ‘Parlokik’) Father. Krishna; or Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar, would NOT be called the (Supreme) ‘Father’; they are created. When the residents of the Subtle Region are also created, and they TOO are a creation, then how could those of the corporeal World be called God (‘Bhagwan’)? It is remembered: ‘Salutations to the Deities’; for Him (Shiva, they say): ‘Salutations to Shiva’. This is the main aspect.”

FIRST of ALL, the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, should give the CORRECT introduction of the Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, who ALONE is called ‘Heavenly God Father’, and Highest-on-High ‘Bhagwan’ (God). NO embodied soul on this corporeal sphere can be called ‘Bhagwan’ (God)!


फादर ने ही गीता में राजयोग सिखाया है। कृष्ण ने नहीं सिखाया। बाप ही गीता के भगवान् हैं। नम्बरवन बात है यह। ‘कृष्ण भगवानुवाच’ नहीं है। ‘रूद्र भगवानुवाच’ वा सोमनाथ, ‘शिव भगवानुवाच’ कहा जाता है। हर एक मनुष्य की जीवन कहानी अपनी-अपनी है। एक न मिले दूसरे से। तो जो भी आये तो पहले-पहले इस बात पर समझाना है। मूल बात समझाने की यह है। परमपिता परमात्मा का आक्यूपेशन यह है। वह बाप है, यह बच्चा है। वह हेविनली गॉड फादर है, यह हेविनली प्रिन्स है। यह बिल्कुल क्लीयर कर समझाना है। मुख्य है गीता, उनके आधार पर ही और शास्त्र हैं। सर्वशास्त्रमई शिरोमणी भगवत गीता है।
ONLY the Father (Shiva) TAUGHT You RajYog in the (TRUE) Gita; Krishna did not teach (RajYog). The Father, Himself, is the ‘God of the Gita’. This is the NUMBER ONE aspect. It is not that ‘God Krishna speaks’. It is said: ‘God Rudra speaks’, or ‘God Somnath speaks’, or ‘God Shiva speaks’. The life story of every human being is exclusive; one cannot be the same as another. FIRST of ALL, explain this aspect to whoever comes. This is the MAIN aspect to be explained. This is the occupation of the Supreme Father Supreme Soul (Shiva). That One (Shiva) is the (Incorporeal) Father, and this one (Brahma Baba) is a Child. He is ‘Heavenly God Father’, whereas this one is the ‘Heavenly Prince’. You have to explain this very clearly. The MAIN one is the (TRUE) Gita, and all the other Scriptures are based on that. It is said: The Bhagawad Gita is the highest Jewel, the Mother of ALL Scriptures.”

ONLY the Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, who is the ‘Heavenly God Father’, TEACHES the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge & Easy RajYog (TRUE Gita), which is the TOPMOST Jewel and the Mother of ALL Scriptures – to the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, ONLY THROUGH REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev, who, himself, becomes the ‘Heavenly Prince’, Shri Krishna, in the beginning of Golden Age.


समझाया जाता है, तुम्हारे बेहद के माँ-बाप वह हैं। जगत अम्बा, जगत पिता भी गाये जाते हैं। एडम और ईव तो मनुष्य को समझते हैं। ईव को मदर कह देते। राइट-वे में ईव कौन है, यह तो कोई नहीं जानते। बाप बैठ समझाते हैं। हाँ, कोई फट से तो नहीं समझ जायेगा। पढ़ाई में टाइम लगता है।
“It is explained that He (Shiva) is your Unlimited ‘Mother & Father’. JagadAmba and JagadPita are also remembered. Adam and Eve are understood to be human beings. They call Eve the Mother. No one knows who Eve is, in the right way. The Father sits and explains. Yes, no one understands instantly. This Study takes time.”

REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev is EVIDENT ‘Alokik’ Father, AS WELL AS, INCOGNITO ‘Alokik’ Mother; EVIDENT Adam, AS WELL AS, INCOGNITO Eve; EVIDENT JagadPita or PrajaPita, AS WELL AS, INCOGNITO JagadAmba – the role of EVIDENT ‘Alokik’ Mother, EVIDENT Eve, or EVIDENT JagadAmba, being then delegated to the Spiritual soul-mate or ‘yugal-dana’ of Brahma Baba, who is Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe!


हेविन स्थापन करने वाला है ‘गॉड फादर’। कृष्ण तो हो न सके। वह तो वर्सा लिया हुआ है। वह श्रीकृष्ण है हेविन का प्रिन्स, और शिवबाबा है हेविन का क्रियेटर। वह है क्रियेशन, फर्स्ट प्रिन्स। ... क्रियेटर ही नॉलेजफुल है। वही राजयोग सिखलाते हैं। वह कोई राजा नहीं है, वह राजयोग सिखलाए, राजाओं का राजा बनाते हैं। भगवान् ने राजयोग सिखाया है, श्रीकृष्ण ने राज्य पद पाया है, उसने ही गंवाया है, उसको ही फिर पाना है। चित्रों द्वारा बहुत अच्छा समझाया जा सकता है। बाप का आक्यूपेशन जरूर चाहिए। श्रीकृष्ण का नाम डालने से, भारत कौड़ी जैसा बन गया है। शिवबाबा को जानने से, भारत हीरे जैसा बनता है।
“The One who establishes Heaven is God Father (Shiva). It CANNOT be Krishna; he is the one who received the inheritance. That Shri Krishna is the ‘Prince of Heaven’, whereas ShivBaba is the ‘Creator of Heaven’. That one is a creation, the first Prince. ... Only the Creator is Knowledge-FULL. ONLY He TEACHES You RajYog. He is NOT a king; He TEACHES You RajYog, and makes You into a ‘King of kings’. God (‘Bhagwan’) TAUGHT RajYog, and Shri Krishna attained the Royal status. He, himself, lost it, and he, himself, has to attain it again. This can be explained very well, using the pictures. The Father's occupation is definitely needed. By inserting Shri Krishna’s name, Bharat becomes like a (empty) shell. By knowing ShivBaba, Bharat becomes like a Diamond.

Incorporeal God Father Shiva is the ‘Creator of Heaven’; while Shri Krishna, of the beginning of Golden Age, is the ‘Prince of Heaven’!


और पढ़ाई है भविष्य के लिए। ऐसी पढ़ाई कोई होती नहीं। शास्त्रों से यह अनुभव नहीं हो सकता। तुम्हारी बुद्धि में है कि हम पढ़ते हैं, सतयुग आदि के लिए। स्कूल पूरा होगा और हमारा फाइनल पेपर होगा। जाकर राज्य करेंगे। गीता सुनाने वाले ऐसी बातें समझा नहीं सकते। पहले तो बाप को जानना है। बाप से वर्सा लेना है।
“This Study is for the FUTURE. There is no other Study like this one. You cannot receive this experience from the Scriptures. It is in your intellects that You are studying for the beginning of the Golden Age. We will finish school and take the final paper. We will go and rule there. Those who relate the (FALSE) Gita cannot explain such aspects. FIRST, You have to know the (Incorporeal) Father (Shiva). You have to claim your inheritance from the Father.”

The Study of the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge & Easy RajYog (TRUE Gita), in Confluence Age, is for the FUTURE New World of Golden & Silver Ages, during RamRajya, or during the ‘Day of the Cycle’, or during the ‘Day of Brahma’.

Whereas, the study of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge – which is the ACCURATE ‘shooting’ of the FALSE Gita of the outer World of Ravan Rajya - in Confluence Age, is for the forth-coming, and ensuing, old World of Copper & Iron Ages, during Ravan Rajya, or during the ‘Night of the Cycle’, or during the ‘Night of Brahma’.


जिन्होंने भक्ति की है, वही पहले नम्बर में ब्रह्मा, फिर ब्रह्मा मुख वंशावली हैं। आपेही पूज्य भी यह बनते हैं। पहले नम्बर में पूज्य ही फिर पहले नम्बर में पुजारी बनें हैं, फिर पूज्य बनेंगे। भक्ति का फल भी पहले उन्हें मिलेगा। ब्राह्मण ही पढ़कर फिर देवता बनते हैं।
“Those who have done (the MAXIMUM) Devotion are, themselves NUMBER ONE - they are Brahma; and THEN, the ‘mouth-born’ progeny of Brahma. This one (Brahma Baba), himself, becomes worthy of worship. He (soul of DLR) is NUMBER ONE worthy-of-worship, who himself, THEN becomes NUMBER ONE worshiper. Then he will become worthy-of-worship again. He is also the FIRST ONE to receive the Fruit of Devotion (as the FIRST Prince of Golden Age). Brahmins, themselves, Study (in Confluence Age), and THEN become Deities (in Golden Age).”

REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev is NUMBER ONE worthy-of-worship, who himself, THEN becomes NUMBER ONE worshipper, who is NOW becoming NUMBER ONE worthy-of-worship, ONCE AGAIN. He is also the FIRST ONE to receive the Fruit of Devotion, as the FIRST Prince of Golden Age!


प्राचीन भारत में पहले-पहले राधे-कृष्ण हुए। उन्हों को जन्म देने वाले ऊंच नहीं गिने जायेंगे। वह तो कम पास हुए हैं ना। महिमा शुरू होती है कृष्ण से। राधे कृष्ण, दोनों अपनी-अपनी राजधानी में आते हैं। उन्हों के मां-बाप से बच्चे का नाम जास्ती है। कितनी वन्डरफुल बातें हैं।
“In ancient Bharat, FIRST of ALL, there are Radhe and Krishna. The ones who give them birth would NOT be considered to be as elevated (as Radhe & Krishna); they (their parents) passed to a lesser extent. Praise, first of all, begins with Krishna. Both, (Radhe and Krishna), come in their own kingdoms. The names of the Children are greater than their parents. These are such wonderful aspects!”

Radhe & Krishna, of the beginning of Golden Age, who have SEPARATE sets of corporeal parents, have a HIGHER Spiritual status than their respective parents, who pass to a LESSER extent, and who are, therefore, NOT as renowned as Shri Radhe & Shri Krishna of Golden Age!
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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 22.11.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
शिव शक्ति भी कहा जाता है। शक्ति किससे मिलती है? वर्ल्ड ऑलमाइटी बाप से। ‘वर्ल्ड ऑलमाइटी अथॉरिटी’ यह अक्षर भी महिमा में देना पड़े। अथॉरिटी माना जो भी शास्त्रों आदि की नॉलेज है, वह सब जानते हैं। अथॉरिटी है समझाने की। ब्रह्मा के हाथ में शास्त्र भी दिखाते हैं और कहते हैं ब्रह्मा मुख कमल द्वारा सभी वेद-शास्त्रों का राज़ समझाते हैं। तो अथॉरिटी हुई ना? तुम बच्चों को सभी वेद-शास्त्रों का राज़ समझाते हैं, दुनिया नहीं जानती कि धर्म शास्त्र किसको कहा जाता है।
“It is also said, ‘Shiv-Shakti’. From whom do You receive (Spiritual) Power? From the World Almighty Father. You also have to write the words, ‘World Almighty Authority’, in His praise. ‘Authority’ means that He knows ALL the Knowledge of all the Scriptures, etc. He has the Authority to explain same. They show the Scriptures also, in the hands of Brahma, and they say, ‘the secrets of the Vedas and the Scriptures are explained through the Lotus-Mouth of Brahma’. So, He (Shiva) is an Authority, is He not? He explains to You Children the secrets of all the Vedas and Scriptures. The world does not know what the religious Scriptures are.”

Within the framework of this EWD Play, the Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God has the EXCLUSIVE Authority, to give ONLY the ‘Satopradhan’ ESSENCE of the ‘FALSE Scriptures & FALSE Gita’ of the outer World of Ravan Rajya, and explain same in the form of the Pure Unadulterated Knowledge (TRUE Gita) - through the SMs & AVs, in Confluence Age, ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev – to the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, to enable them to claim their Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya from Him, in Confluence Age ITSELF, ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba!

LIKEWISE, within the framework of this EWD Play, the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya - MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, etc. - has been programmed with the SPECIFIC proportionate ‘Authority’, to give ONLY the ‘Rajopradhan & Tamopradhan’ ESSENCE of the ‘FALSE Scriptures & FALSE Gita’ of the outer World of Ravan Rajya, and explain same in the form of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge - (being the ACCURATE ‘shooting’ of ONLY the ‘Rajopradhan & Tamopradhan’ aspects of the ‘FALSE Scriptures & FALSE Gita’, of the outer World of Ravan Rajya) – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age – through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan - who ALSO MASQUERADES as ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, ‘Shiv-Shankar-Bholenath’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – to the BLIND Unrighteous children, or FALSE Brahmins, to enable them to claim their ‘unlimited’ inheritance of sovereignty of Ravan Rajya, in Confluence Age ITSELF, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!
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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 23.11.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
कई बच्चे ऐसे भी हैं, जो समझते हैं कि हमारा तो शिवबाबा ही है, उनसे हमारा कनेक्शन है। परन्तु वह भी सुनायेंगे तो जरूर ब्रह्मा मुख से ना। कई समझते हैं शिवबाबा हमको डायरेक्ट प्रेरणा करते हैं। परन्तु यह समझना रांग है। शिवबाबा शिक्षा तो जरूर ब्रह्मा द्वारा ही देंगे। तुमको समझा रहे हैं कि बच्चे थक मत जाना। भल तुम्हारा शिवबाबा से कनेक्शन है। शिवबाबा भी कहते हैं, ‘मनमनाभव’। ब्रह्मा भी कहते हैं, ‘मनमनाभव’। तो ब्रह्माकुमार-कुमारियां भी कहती हैं, ‘मनमनाभव’। परन्तु सावधानी देने लिए तो मुख चाहिए ना। कई बच्चे समझते हैं, हमारा तो उनसे कनेक्शन है। परन्तु डायरेक्शन तो ब्रह्मा द्वारा देंगे ना। अगर डायरेक्शन आदि डायरेक्ट मिलते रहें, तो फिर उनको यहाँ आने की दरकार ही क्या है? ऐसे-ऐसे बच्चे भी हैं, जिनको यह ख्यालात आते हैं – ‘शिवबाबा ब्रह्मा द्वारा कहते हैं, तो हमारे द्वारा भी कह सकते हैं’। लेकिन ब्रह्मा बिना तो कनेक्शन हो नहीं सकता। कई ब्रह्मा वा ब्रहमाकुमार-कुमारियों से रूठते हैं, तो ऐसे कहने लग पड़ते हैं।
“Some (Unrighteous) children are also SUCH, who think that ShivBaba is THEIR everything, since they have a (DIRECT) connection with Him (ALONE). However, He (Shiva) also would only speak through the Mouth of Brahma, would He not? Some (Unrighteous children) think that ShivBaba is INSPIRING them DIRECTLY, but it is WRONG to think in this way. ShivBaba would surely give education ONLY THROUGH Brahma (soul of DLR). He explains to You: Children, do not become weary! You may have a connection with ShivBaba, and ShivBaba also says, ‘Remember Me, ALONE’ (‘Manmanabhav’)! Brahma also says, ‘Manmanabhav’ (Remember ShivBaba, ALONE)! Even the Brahma Kumars and Kumaris (BKs) say, ‘Manmanabhav’ (Remember ShivBaba, ALONE)! HOWEVER, a Mouth is (definitely) needed in order to caution (the Children). Some (Unrighteous) children think that their connection is with that One (DIRECTLY, anyway). However, He would give directions (ONLY) THROUGH Brahma (soul of DLR), would He not? If You continue to receive directions, etc., from Him DIRECTLY, then what would be the need for Him to come here? There are some (STUPID) children who have such thoughts as, ‘Since ShivBaba can speak through (the Mouth of) Brahma, so He can also speak through me’ (my mouthowing to their ARROGANCE of body-consciousness). However, You CANNOT have a connection (with Him) without Brahma (soul of DLR). Some (Unrighteous children) sulk with Brahma (soul of DLR) and the Brahma Kumars and Kumaris (BKs), and then begin to say such things.

The Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or GodTEACHES & EDUCATES the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, with the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge & Easy RajYog (TRUE Gita) - ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his ELEVATED SUBTLE body, AFTER 1969 – using the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar, WHENEVER SO REQUIRED – and the CONCERNED Righteous Children ALSO receive the SUBTLE clarifications of the TRUE Gita, DIRECTLY, by way of ACCURATE TOUCHINGS, through the Third Eye of their Divine intellects, AS and WHEN, they ALSO DEVELOP their OWN ‘akari’ or subtle stage of consciousness, UNTIL the VERY END of Confluence Age!

The above Version pertains EXCLUSIVELY to the TIME PERIOD, in Confluence Age, WHEN Brahma Baba was enacting the role of REAL PrajaPita, through his impure corporeal body, on this corporeal sphere, UNTIL 1969. During this PERIOD of TIME, the Children were STILL body-conscious to a VERY HIGH degree, and therefore, the question of them having a DIRECT Spiritual CONNECTION with Incorporeal God Father Shiva DID NOT arise, AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME PERIOD. Incorporeal Shiva CANNOT EFFECTIVELY CONVEY the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge to the Children, through INSPIRATION – and the question of giving the Children ‘ACCURATE Spiritual TOUCHINGS’ ALSO DOES NOT ARISE, DURING THAT PARTICULAR PERIOD of TIME, since the Children were STILL body-conscious to a VERY HIGH degree, and would NOT have been ABLE to EFFECTIVELY receive SUCH ‘ACCURATE Spiritual TOUCHINGS’, AT THAT TIME! Therefore, Incorporeal God Father Shiva HAS to DEFINITELY come on this corporeal sphere, PERSONALLY, and give the REQUIRED education to the CONCERNED Righteous Children, through the Lotus Mouth of the corporeal body of ONLY Brahma Baba, or soul of DLR, in order to CONTINUE guiding them, and CONTINUE cautioning them, in ‘Sakar’, UNTIL 1969 – WHEN the CONCERNED Righteous Children ALSO DEVELOP their OWN ‘akari’, or subtle stage of consciousness, to be THEN ABLE to EFFECTIVELY receive the ‘ACCURATE Spiritual TOUCHINGS’, from BapDada, in ‘Akar’, WHILE they remain stabilized in their OWN ‘Akari’, or subtle stage of consciousness - although STILL number-wise!

BOTH, Incorporeal ShivBaba & ‘Avyakt’ Brahma Baba, COMBINED TOGETHER as ‘BapDada’, THEN CONTINUE to provide the REQUIRED guidance and caution, in ESSENCE, EVEN AFTER 1969, in ‘Avyakt’, MOSTLY for the benefit of the NEW aspirants of Knowledge, who are STILL body-conscious to a HIGH degree – using the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar, WHENEVER SO REQUIRED!

The BLIND Unrighteous children, who sulk with REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, and the OFFICIALLY APPOINTED, instrumental Brahma Kumars and Kumaris (BKs), AFTER EXPOSING their intellects to the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, get TREACHEROUSLY TRICKED into DELUSIVELY believing that Incorporeal God Father Shiva speaks through the (BOGUS) mouth of THEIR bodily guru, as His ‘mukrar-rath’, AFTER Brahma Baba leaves his corporeal body in 1969 – BUT they are simply UNABLE to REAL-EYEs, that their bodily guru is, in ACTUAL FACT, the Defamer Of God, who is ACTUALLY the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, ‘Shiv-Shankar-Bholenath’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – being instrumental to carry out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age – ALL, PERFECTLY, AS PER DRAMA PLAN!


शिवबाबा तो अभी है। अभी की ही सारी महिमा है। शिवबाबा का यह बर्थप्लेस है। ब्रह्मा का भी बर्थप्लेस हो गया। शंकर का बर्थप्लेस नहीं कहेंगे। उनको तो यहाँ आने की दरकार ही नहीं! वह तो निमित्त बना हुआ है विनाश अर्थ। विष्णु आते हैं, जबकि दो रूप से राज्य करते हैं, पालना करते हैं। विष्णु के दो रूप, युगल दिखाये हैं। उनकी यह (दो रूप) प्रतिमा है। वह तो सतयुग में आते हैं। तो हमको महिमा एक बाप की करनी पड़ती है। वह ‘सेवीयर’ (बचाने वाला) भी है।
“ShivBaba is here NOW. All His praise is of THIS time. THIS is ShivBaba's Birth-place, so it is also the Birth-place of Brahma (soul of DLR). It CANNOT be called the Birth-place of Shankar. There is NO NEED for him (Shankar) to come here AT ALL! He (Shankar) has just become the instrument for the sake of ‘destruction’. Vishnu comes when he rules and sustains the Kingdom (of the New World) through his dual-form (of Lakshmi & Narayan). They have shown a couple as the dual-form of Vishnu. This (dual-form) is his (Vishnu’s) image. He (Vishnu) exists in the Golden Age. So, we have to sing praise of ONE (Incorporeal) Father (Shiva). He is also our Saviour.”

The Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God takes a Divine Spiritual Birth in Bharat, during Confluence Age, ONLY THROUGH the corporeal body of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev. Therefore, Bharat is the Birth-place of Incorporeal ShivBaba, AS WELL AS, corporeal Brahma Baba.

BUT Bharat CANNOT be called the Birth-place of the subtle Deity Shankar of the Subtle Region, since he is ONLY a SYMBOLIC instrument, for the sake of apportioning the ‘blame’ of ‘destruction’ to himself, RATHER than to Incorporeal God Father Shiva; and Shankar DOES NOT come on this corporeal sphere, to enact ANY corporeal role, through ANY corporeal body of ANY embodied soul, like Shiva does!

The PRACTICAL role of Vishnu exists in the Golden Age; and the SYMBOLIC dual-form of Vishnu represents - the PRACTICAL COMBINED form of Empress Shri Lakshmi & Emperor Shri Narayan, who are the HIGHEST PRACTICAL World Sovereigns in the beginning of Golden Age, in PARTICULAR – (by virtue of having been the HIGHEST SPIRITUAL World Sovereigns in Confluence Age, being the VERY SAME souls of Saraswati Mama & Brahma Baba) – AND, the PRACTICAL COMBINED forms of the ensuing HIGHEST PRACTICAL World Sovereigns during Golden & Silver Ages, number-wise, at their OWN respective time periods, in GENERAL.


यहाँ तो हम सब आत्माओं का बाप एक है। हम उनके बाप बन ही नहीं सकते। उनको ‘बच्चा’ कह नहीं सकते। हाँ, यह तो ज्ञान की रमत-गमत होती है जो कहते हैं, शिव बालक को वारिस बनाते हैं। इन बातों को तो कोई विरला समझने वाला समझे। शिव बालक को वारिस बनाए, उन पर बलिहार जाते हैं। शिवबाबा पर बच्चे बलिहार जाते हैं। यह एक्सचेंज होती है। वर्सा देने का कितना महत्व है। बाप कहते हैं, देह सहित जो कुछ है, उन सबका मुझे वारिस बनाओ।
“Here, the Father of all of us souls is ONE. We cannot become His Father. He cannot be called a ‘Child’. Yes, it is a ‘Play of Knowledge’, when we say that we make ShivBaba our Heir (Child). Scarcely a FEW (Righteous Children), who can understand (these SUBTLE aspects) will understand them. They make ‘Child’ Shiva their Heir, and He surrenders Himself to them; Children surrender themselves to ShivBaba; this EXCHANGE (of surrendering to EACH OTHER) takes place. There is so much significance in giving an inheritance. The Father says: Whatever You have, including your body, make Me the Heir of it all.”

Please be aware that the part of the sentence of above Version, highlighted in ‘red colour’ below, has been WRONGLY translated in English - as it appears in ‘Official Madhuban Murli Website’ -
‘They make Child Shiva their Heir and surrender themselves to Him. Children surrender themselves to Shiv Baba; this exchange takes place.’

Incorporeal God Father Shiva CANNOT be called a ‘Child’, since He DOES NOT have ANY Father of His OWN. However, ONLY as a ‘Play of Knowledge’, the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, DO make REAL ShivBaba their Spiritual Heir, or Spiritual ‘Child’, who surrenders Himself to them COMPLETELY, ONLY WHEN they ALSO surrender themselves to Him COMPLETELY – which is a Spiritual EXCHANGE that takes place in Confluence Age, between the REAL Incorporeal Creator, Shiva, and His corporeal creation, the Righteous Children!


इन चित्रों में भी करेक्शन होती रहती है। ‘सेवीयर’ अक्षर भी जरूरी है। ... इसमें समझाने, विचार सागर मंथन करने की बड़ी दरकार है। बाबा तो झट बतलाते हैं, इसमें यह करेक्शन होनी चाहिए। बच्चे बतलाते नहीं हैं। बाबा करेक्शन तो चाहते हैं।
“These pictures continue to have corrections made to them. The word ‘Saviour’ is also necessary. ... A lot of explanation and churning of the Ocean of Knowledge is required. Baba instantly tells (the Children), ‘This correction should be made in this’; Children do not tell (themselves, that correction should be made in this). Baba wants corrections to be made (by the Children, where required).

Please be aware that the part of the sentence of the above Version, highlighted in ‘red colour’ below, has been INAPPROPRIATELY translated in English - as it appears in ‘Official Madhuban Murli Website’ -
‘Baba instantly tells you: This correction should be made in this. Children don't show it to Baba, but Baba wants those corrections made.

The Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, are EXPECTED to CONTINUE making REQUIRED CORRECTIONS to the EARLIER RELEVANT pictures, and EARLIER OBSOLETE Versions, AFTER CHURNING the ‘Ocean of Knowledge’ – in accordance with ‘ACCURATE Spiritual TOUCHINGS’ received, during the process of ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of Incorporeal God Father Shiva – as a POINT source of Spiritual Light Energy – by FIRST considering the Self ALSO as a soul – also as a Point source of Spiritual Light Energy!
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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 24.11.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
ईश्वर का रास्ता ग़लत बताते हैं। अगर कहें कि ईश्वर और उनकी रचना के आदि, मध्य, अन्त को हम नहीं जानते हैं, तो यह बोलना सच है। आगे ऋषि-मुनि आदि सच बोलते थे, उस समय रजोगुणी थे। उस समय झूठी दुनिया नहीं कहेंगे। झूठी दुनिया नर्क, कलियुग अन्त को कहते हैं। संगम पर कहेंगे - यह नर्क है, वह स्वर्ग है। ऐसे नहीं द्वापर को नर्क कहेंगे। उस समय फिर भी रजोप्रधान बुद्धि है। अभी है तमोप्रधान। ... सब अपना-अपना हिसाब-किताब चुक्तू कर, अन्त में सतोप्रधान बनते हैं; फिर सतो, रजो, तमो में आना ही है। जिनका एक-दो जन्म का पार्ट है, वह भी सतो, रजो, तमो में आते हैं। उन्हों का पार्ट ही थोड़ा है। इसमें बड़ी समझ चाहिए।
“ They show wrong paths to (finding) God. IF they were to say that they do not know God, or the beginning, middle and end of His creation, THEN that would be telling the truth. Earlier, rishis and munis, etc., used to tell the truth. At that time, they were ‘rajoguni’. At that time, the World would not be said to be (completely) FALSE. Hell, the end of the Iron Age, is said to be the FALSE World. At the Confluence Age, You would say: This is Hell, and that is Heaven. You would not call the Copper Age (the very depths of) Hell. At that time, you still have ‘rajopradhan’ intellects. They are now ‘tamopradhan’. ... Everyone settles their karmic accounts, and becomes ‘satopradhan’ at the end (of Confluence Age). THEN they DEFINITELY have to go through the stages of sato, rajo and tamo. Even those who have parts of just one or two births go through the stages of sato, rajo and tamo. They only have small parts. Great understanding is required for this.

LIKEWISE, in Confluence Age, the intellects of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God, AND the BLIND Unrighteous children, become ‘tamopradhan’ – WHEN the Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that he, himself, is the ‘Supreme Soul’ (‘Paramatma’) & ‘highest-on-high’ ‘Bhagwan’ - thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age - and the BLIND Unrighteous children READILY believe him, due to their ADULTERATED, CORRUPTED, PERVERTED, INVERTED & DEGRADED STONE intellects!


बाबा ने समझाया है - मुझे याद करो, मेरी श्रीमत पर चलो। इसमें प्रेरणा आदि की कोई बात नहीं। अगर प्रेरणा से काम हो, तो फिर बाप के आने की दरकार ही नहीं। शिवबाबा तो यहाँ है। तो उनको प्रेरणा की क्या दरकार है। यह तो बाप की मत पर चलना होता है। प्ररेणा की बात नहीं। कोई-कोई सन्देशियां सन्देश ले आती हैं, उसमें भी बहुत मिक्स हो जाता है। सन्देशी तो सब एक जैसी हैं नहीं। माया का बहुत इन्टरफियर होता है। दूसरी सन्देशी से वेरीफाय कराना होता है। कई तो कह देते हैं, हमारे में बाबा आते हैं, मम्मा आती है, फिर अपना अलग सेन्टर खोल बैठते हैं। माया की प्रवेशता हो जाती है। यह बड़ी समझने की बात है। बच्चों को बहुत सेन्सीबुल बनना चाहिए।
Baba has explained: Remember Me, and follow My ‘Shrimat’. There is no question of inspiration in this. If everything were to happen through inspiration, there would be no need for the Father to come. ShivBaba is HERE (in the corporeal body of Brahma Baba, PRIOR 1969). So, what is the need for Him to give inspiration? Here, You have to follow the Father’s directions. There is NO QUESTION of inspiration. Some trance messengers bring a message, but there are sometimes a lot of things also mixed in that. Not all trance messengers are the same; there is a lot of interference of Maya. Same has to be verified by another trance messenger. Some say that Baba or Mama come in them, and they then go and open a separate Center of their own: there is the influence of Maya. These aspects have to be understood. You Children have to become very sensible.”

For proper clarification, view point 1 of Revised SM dated 23.11.2018, in the preceding post of this topic, in link http://www.bk-pbk.info/viewtopic.php?f= ... 831#p53831


बाप से बच्चों को वर्सा मिलता है। बाप के पास प्रापर्टी होती है। बेहद का बाप है ही स्वर्ग का रचयिता। भारतवासियों को भी प्रापर्टी किससे मिलती है? शिवबाबा से। शिव जयन्ती भी मनाते हैं। शिव जयन्ती के बाद फिर होगी कृष्ण जयन्ती, फिर राम जयन्ती। बस! मम्मा-बाबा की जयन्ती, वा जगदम्बा की जयन्ती तो कोई गाते नहीं। शिव-जयन्ती, फिर राधे-कृष्ण की जयन्ती, फिर राम-सीता जयन्ती।
“Children receive the inheritance from the Father. The Father has property. The Unlimited Father is the Creator of Heaven. From whom do the people of Bharat receive their property? From ShivBaba. They also celebrate Shiva Jayanti. After Shiva Jayanti, there is Krishna Jayanti, and then Rama Jayanti; that’s all! No one remembers the Jayanti of Mama or Baba, or of JagadAmba. There is Shiva Jayanti, then the Jayanti of Radhe and Krishna, and then of Rama and Sita.”

Shiva Jayanti takes place in the VERY BEGINNING of Confluence Age, WHEN Incorporeal Shiva enters the corporeal body of Brahma Baba; which is IMMEDIATELY followed by ‘Jayanti’ of TRUE Gita (Gita Jayanti), WHEN Shiva STARTS to speak the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge through the Lotus Mouth of Brahma Baba, or soul of DLR; which is IMMEDIATELY followed by Brahma Jayanti, WHEN soul of DLR becomes INCOGNITO JagadAmba (being the ONE & ONLY Spiritual Wife of Shiva), AS WELL AS, the VERY FIRST, DIRECT ‘mouth-born’ SPECIAL Child (‘murabbi bachha’) of Shiva, Spiritually Re-Born through the Lotus Mouth of Brahma Baba, himself; which is SUBSEQUENTLY followed by ‘Confluence Age Krishna’ Jayanti, WHEN Brahma Baba REAL-EYEses that he, himself, is the SAME soul of Shri Krishna of the VERY BEGINNING of Golden Age; which is SUBSEQUENTLY followed by PrajaPita Brahma Jayanti, WHEN Brahma Baba becomes the REAL, ORIGINAL ETERNAL EVIDENT JagadPita, or PrajaPita, of the Righteous Children, who BEGIN to IMBIBE the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, AFTER CHURNING same, and ACCUMULATING & STORING same, as their Unlimited Spiritual INHERITANCE, within their sanskars, for FUTURE PRACTICAL EXPERIENCES during their VARIOUS corporeal life-spans, during RamRajya, or the ‘Day of the Cycle’; which is LATER followed by PRACTICAL Krishna Jayanti, in the VERY BEGINNING of Golden Age; which is LATER followed by PRACTICAL Radhe Jayanti, about 2 to 3 years AFTER PRACTICAL Krishna Jayanti – who, themselves, THEN become the HIGHEST PRACTICAL World Sovereigns, Empress Shri Lakshmi & Emperor Shri Narayan, in the beginning of Golden Age, (by virtue of having been the HIGHEST SPIRITUAL World Sovereigns in Confluence Age); which is LATER followed by Rama & Sita Jayanti, in the beginning of Silver Age.
AND, that’s ALL - as far as the PRINCIPAL personalities are concerned!


शिवबाबा नॉलेज दे रहे हैं। आदि सनातन देवी-देवता धर्म की स्थापना हो रही है। शिवजयन्ती है बड़े ते बड़ी जयन्ती। फिर है ब्रह्मा, विष्णु, शंकर। अब प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा तो मनुष्य सृष्टि में है। फिर रचना में मुख्य है लक्ष्मी-नारायण। तो शिव है मात-पिता, फिर मात-पिता ब्रह्मा और जगत अम्बा भी आ जाते हैं। यह समझने और धारण करने की बातें हैं।
“ShivBaba is giving You Knowledge. The original eternal Deity religion is being established. Shiv Jayanti is the greatest Jayanti of all. Then there are Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar. NOW, PrajaPita Brahma (soul of DLR) is in the human World. Then, Lakshmi and Narayan are the MAIN ones of the creation. So, Shiva is the (‘Parlokik’) ‘Mother & Father’, and then Brahma (soul of DLR) and JagadAmba (soul of Om Radhe) are also the (‘Alokik’) Mother and Father. These aspects have to be understood, and have to be imbibed.

The Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God - is the ‘Parlokik’ ‘Mother & Father’; AND, Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe & Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, are the ‘Alokik’ Mother and Father, of the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins - who CLEARLY understand same, and who ACTUALLY EXPERIENCE same!


यह तो जानते हैं, देह सहित सब कुछ इस दुनिया का ख़त्म हो जाने वाला है। बाबा कहते हैं, सिर्फ मुझे याद करो, तो तुम मेरे पास आ जायेंगे। मरने के बाद सारा साक्षात्कार होगा। शरीर छोड़कर फिर आत्मा भटकती भी है। उस समय भी हिसाब-किताब भोग सकते हैं। साक्षात्कार सब होता है। अन्दर ही साक्षात्कार करते हैं, भोगना भोगते हैं, बहुत पछताते हैं कि हमने नाहेक ऐसा किया। पश्चाताप होता है ना!
“You know that everything of this World is to be destroyed, ALONG WITH your bodies. Baba says: Simply remember Me, and You will come to Me. After death, a soul has visions of everything. Sometimes, after leaving the body, a soul WANDERS around. One can settle one’s karmic accounts (through mental suffering, through the intellect) at that time ALSO. He has visions of everything. The soul has visions internally. He suffers for his actions (internally, within the mind, intellect & sanskars) and repents a great deal: ‘I did that unnecessarily’. There is repentance (within)!”

EVEN WHEN an embodied soul leaves the previous corporeal body and WANDERS AROUND, PRIOR taking the NEXT corporeal body, the karmic accounts of such a soul continue to be settled, through the EXPERIENCE of mental suffering, through the intellect, by receiving intellectual visions of past sinful actions performed in previous corporeal body, or bodies, when such a soul internally repents a great deal, and the sinful accounts continue to be settled through the FIRE of SUCH internal intellectual REPENTANCE!
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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 26.11.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
जरूर मनुष्य सृष्टि का रचयिता ‘मात-पिता’ होगा। परन्तु माया ने मनुष्यों की बुद्धि बिल्कुल डेड कर दी है। इतनी साधारण बात बुद्धि में नहीं बैठती। कहते तो सभी हैं कि हमको भगवान् ने पैदा किया है। तो जरूर ‘मात-पिता’ होंगे! भक्ति मार्ग में याद भी करते हैं। हर धर्म वाले ‘गॉड फादर’ को जरूर याद करते हैं। भक्त खुद तो भगवान् हो नहीं सकते। भक्त भगवान् की बन्दगी (साधना) करते हैं। गॉड फादर तो जरूर सबका एक ही होगा, अर्थात् सभी आत्माओं का फादर एक है। सभी जिस्मों का फादर एक हो नहीं सकता। वह तो अनेक फादर हैं। वह जिस्मानी फादर होते हुए भी ‘हे ईश्वर’ कहकर याद करते हैं। बाप बैठ समझाते हैं - मनुष्य बेसमझ हैं, जो बाप का परिचय ही भूल जाते हैं। तुम जानते हो स्वर्ग का रचयिता जरूर एक ही बाप है।
“The (Unlimited, Incorporeal) Creator of the human World must DEFINITELY be the (‘Parlokik’) ‘Mother & Father’ (Shiva). However, Maya has made the intellects of human beings COMPLETELY DEAD. Such a SIMPLE aspect DOES NOT sit in their intellects. Everyone says that God (‘Bhagwan’) created them. Therefore, He must surely be the (‘Parlokik’) ‘Mother & Father’. They even remember (God) on the ‘Path of Devotion’. People of EVERY religion definitely remember ‘God Father’ (Supreme Soul). Devotees (of God) CANNOT be God (‘Bhagwan’) themselves. Devotees pay obeisance (bow down and pray) to God (‘Bhagwan’). Surely, (Incorporeal) ‘God Father’ of EVERYONE would be ONE; that is, the Father of ALL (human) souls is ONE. There CANNOT be one (corporeal) father of ALL (corporeal) bodies; there would have to be many (different) fathers. Although everyone has a corporeal father, they still call out, ‘O God’, and remember Him. The Father sits and explains: Human beings are SO SENSELESS that they FORGET even the (Incorporeal) Father’s introduction! You understand that the Creator of Heaven is definitely ONLY ONE (Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’) Father (Shiva).

AFTER having EXPOSED their intellects to the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, initiated by the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, and propagated through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God, the intellects of the BLIND Unrighteous children become ADULTERATED, CORRUPTED, PERVERTED, INVERTED, DEGRADED and COMPLETELY DEAD – to such an EXTENT that EVEN the SIMPLEST aspects DO NOT sit in their intellects - that ONLY ONE Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, ALONE, is the (‘Parlokik’) ‘Mother & Father’ of ALL human souls, and that ONLY He can be called ‘Bhagwan’ (God); AND, that REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev is the ONLY ONE ‘Alokik’ ‘Mother & Father’ of ALL human embodied souls, on this corporeal sphere, within this EWD Play; AND, that, FIRST of ALL, they should CONCENTRATE & FOCUS their Spiritual Energy in giving the CORRECT introduction of the ‘Parlokik’ PARENT - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God – followed by the CORRECT introduction of the ‘Alokik’ Parent - REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLRAND, that they should NOT DISSIPATE their Spiritual Energy by DELUSIVELY endeavouring to give the ERRONEOUS introduction of their bodily guru – who TREACHEROUSLY MASQUERADES as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Allah’, ‘Alif’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Ishwar’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Vishnu’, ‘Shankar’, ‘Shiv-Shankar-Bholenath’, Confluence Age ‘Krishna’, Confluence Age ‘Narayan’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – as THEIR, and EVERYONE’s, ‘Alokik’ Parent – BUT who is ACTUALLY the Defamer Of God, who is ONLY INVOLVED in OPPOSING, DEFAMING, INSULTING & MOCKING Incorporeal God Father Shiva & His ‘mukrar-rath’, Brahma Baba - thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


इन बातों को कोई भी साइन्स घमन्डी समझ नहीं सकते। आत्मा इतना छोटा स्टार है, उनमें अविनाशी पार्ट सदैव के लिए भरा हुआ है, यह कभी समाप्त नहीं होता। बाप भी कहते हैं, मैं भी तो क्रियेटर और एक्टर हूँ। मैं कल्प-कल्प आता हूँ पार्ट बजाने। कहते हैं, परमात्मा मन-बुद्धि सहित चैतन्य, नॉलेजफुल है, लेकिन क्या चीज़ है, यह कोई नहीं जानते। जैसे तुम आत्मा स्टार मिसल हो, मैं भी स्टार हूँ।
“Those who have the arrogance of science CANNOT understand these aspects. A soul is such a tiny Star, and has an eternal, imperishable part recorded within, which NEVER ends. The Father also says: I, TOO, am the Creator and (Principal) Actor. I come every Cycle to play My part. They say that the Supreme Soul is a Living Being with a Mind and an Intellect, who is Knowledge-FULL. However, no one knows what (EXACTLY) He is. Just as You souls are LIKE Stars, I too am (LIKE) a STAR (a POINT source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy).”

The Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, is a POINT source of Spiritual Light Energy, just LIKE a STAR – and EVERY individual human soul is also a Point source of Spiritual Light Energy, just LIKE a Star!
‘LIKE Father, LIKE Son’!

Those who have the ARROGANCE of Science CANNOT comprehend these subtle aspects; and the BLIND Unrighteous children are UNABLE to ACTUALLY EXPERIENCE same, owing to their ARROGANCE of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge!
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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 27.11.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
सिर्फ ‘मात-पिता’ वाला गीत सुनाने से नाम सिद्ध नहीं होता है। पहले ‘शिवाए नम:’ का गीत सुनकर, फिर ‘मात-पिता’ वाला सुनाने से नॉलेज का पता पड़ता है। मनुष्य तो मन्दिरों में जाते हैं, लक्ष्मी-नारायण के मन्दिर में जायेंगे, कृष्ण के मन्दिर में जायेंगे, सबके आगे, ‘तुम मात-पिता ..’, कह देते हैं, बगैर अर्थ। पहले ‘शिवाए नम:’ वाला गीत सुनाए, फिर ‘मात-पिता’ वाला सुनाने से महिमा का पता पड़ता है। नया कोई भी आये तो यह गीत अच्छे हैं। समझाने में सहज होता है। बाप का नाम ही है शिव। ... यह ‘शिवाए नम:’ वाला गीत अच्छा है। तुम बजा सकते हो। मनुष्य तो इसका अर्थ समझ न सकें। तुम कहेंगे हम श्रीमत पर यथार्थ अर्थ समझा सकते हैं। वह तो गुड़ियों का खेल करते हैं। ड्रामा अनुसार इन गीतों की भी मदद मिलती है।
“The Name (of Shiva) is not proved by simply playing the song, ‘You are the Mother & Father ..’. If the song, ‘Salutations to Shiva ..’ is played first, and then, ‘You are the Mother & Father ..’, is played, they would know about the Knowledge. People go to temples. When they go to a Lakshmi & Narayan Temple, or a Krishna Temple, they say in front of everyone (idols of the Deities), ‘You are the Mother & Father ..’, without any meaning (without proper understanding). So, if the song, ‘Salutations to Shiva ..’ is played first, and then, ‘You are the Mother & Father ..’, is played, they can come to know His praise. These songs are good for newcomers. They make it easy to explain to them. The Father’s name is Shiva. ... The song, ‘Salutations to Shiva ..’, is very good. You can play this. People do not understand its meaning. You can say that You can explain its accurate meaning, according to ‘Shrimat’. They simply continue to play with dolls. According to Drama, You also receive help from these songs.

While songs are DEFINITELY NECESSARY to be played for the benefit of newcomers, for the specific purpose of facilitating Spiritual Service of new aspirants of Knowledge, during their respective initial stages, the Righteous Children should NOT CONTINUE to depend on songs, themselves, for their OWN Spiritual evolution – since same could also become a subtle source of distraction and hindrance in their OWN Spiritual progress!


सर्विस करते-करते बुद्धि रिफाइन होती है। बाबा-मम्मा अपना अनुभव सुनाते हैं। (शिव)बाबा है सिखलाने वाला, यह तो जानते हो यह बाबा अच्छी धारणा कर अच्छी मुरली सुनाते हैं। अच्छा, समझो इसमें शिवबाबा है, वह तो है ही मुरलीधर, परन्तु यह बाबा भी तो जानता है ना? नहीं तो इतना पद कैसे पाते? बाबा ने समझाया है कि हमेशा समझो शिवबाबा सुनाते हैं। शिवबाबा की याद रहने से तुम्हारा भी कल्याण हो जायेगा। इनमें तो शिवबाबा आते हैं। वह मम्मा अलग बोलती है, मम्मा की हैंसियत में। उनका नाम बाला करना है क्योंकि फीमेल को लिफ्ट दी जाती है।
“By continuing to do Service, your intellects become refined. (Brahma) Baba and (Saraswati) Mama relate their own experiences. (Shiv)Baba is the One who TEACHES You. You know that this (Brahma) Baba imbibes Knowledge very well, and also conducts the Murli very well. OK, You understand that ShivBaba is in THIS one (Brahma Baba), He (Shiva) is ‘Murlidhar’ anyway, but THIS Baba (soul of DLR) ALSO knows, is it not? Otherwise, how else would he claim such a (high) status? Baba has explained that You must ALWAYS consider that ShivBaba speaks (this Knowledge). By Remembering ShivBaba, there is benefit for You also. ShivBaba comes in THIS one (Brahma Baba). Mama (Om Radhe) speaks SEPARATELY, in her capacity as Mama. Her name has to be glorified, because females have to be given a lift.”

REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev is the ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God – who achieves the HIGHEST status of becoming the HIGHEST PRACTICAL World Sovereign, Emperor Shri Narayan, in the beginning of Golden Age, by virtue of having been the HIGHEST SPIRITUAL World Sovereign, in Confluence Age – among ALL OTHER embodied souls, on this corporeal sphere, within this EWD Play!


बाकी मनुष्य सब अन्धश्रधा में फँसे हुए रहते हैं। यहाँ तो तुम ईश्वर की शरणागति में आये हो। रावण से दु:खी हो आकर राम की एशलम ली है। तुम सब शोक वाटिका में थे। अब फिर अशोक वाटिका में, अर्थात् स्वर्ग में चलना है। स्वर्ग स्थापन करने वाले बाप की शरणागति ली है। कोई तो छोटेपन में ही जबरदस्ती आ गये हैं, तो उन्हों को यहाँ शरणागति में सुख नहीं आता। तकदीर में नहीं है, उन्हों को माया रावण की शरण चाहिए। ईश्वर की शरणागति से निकल कर, माया की शरण में जाना चाहते हैं। आश्चर्य की बात है ना।
“The rest of human beings are ALL trapped in BLIND faith. You have come here and taken refuge with God. Having becoming sorrowful with Ravan, You have taken asylum with RAMA (God Father Shiva). All of You were in the ‘cottage of sorrow’ (‘shok vatika’). You have now to go to the ‘cottage free from sorrow’ (‘ashok vatika’), that is, You have to go to Heaven. You have taken refuge with the Father, who is the Creator of Heaven. Some came under compulsion in their childhood (by virtue of being the dependent offspring of parents who came into Knowledge), so they do not experience any happiness in this refuge; it is not in their fortune. They desire to take asylum with Maya, Ravan. It is a great wonder that they desire to leave their refuge with God, and take asylum with Maya, Ravan.

SIMILARLY, in the ‘shooting’ period of the latter part of Confluence Age, the BLIND Unrighteous children, DO NOT EXPERIENCE ANY Happiness in the REAL refuge with the Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God - THROUGH His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR – AFTER EXPOSING their intellects to the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge – so they INADVERTENTLY leave their REAL refuge with Incorporeal God Father Shiva, and UNCONSCIOUSLY/IGNORANTLY/INNOCENTLY take asylum with the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, etc., through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, who ALSO MASQUERADES as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – DELUSIVELY believing that Incorporeal God Father Shiva CONTINUES to operate on this corporeal sphere, in ‘Sakar’, through the impure perishable corporeal body of THEIR bodily guru, AFTER Brahma Baba leaves his corporeal body in 1969 – which is an OUTRIGHT, and DOWNRIGHT, DECEPTION of Maya, Ravan – ALL, PERFECTLY, as per DRAMA PLAN!
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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 29.11.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
‘भगवानुवाच’। भगवान् कहा जाता है निराकार परमपिता को। ‘भगवानुवाच’ किसने कहा? उस निराकार परमपिता परमात्मा ने। निराकार बाप निराकार आत्माओं को बैठ समझाते हैं। निराकार आत्मा इस शरीर रूपी कर्मेन्द्रियों से सुनती है। आत्मा को न मेल, न फीमेल कहा जाता है। उनको आत्मा ही कहा जाता है। आत्मा स्वयं इन आरगन्स द्वारा कहती है - मैं एक शरीर छोड़ दूसरा लेती हूँ। जो भी मनुष्य मात्र हैं, वह सब ब्रदर्स हैं। जब निराकार परमपिता परमात्मा की सन्तान हैं तो आपस में सब भाई-भाई हैं, जब प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा की सन्तान हैं तो भाई-बहन हैं। यह हमेशा सबको समझाते रहो।
“God speaks. (ONLY) The Incorporeal Supreme Father (Shiva) is called God (‘Bhagwan’). Who said: God speaks? That Incorporeal Supreme Father Supreme Soul (Shiva). The Incorporeal Father sits here and explains to You incorporeal souls. You incorporeal souls listen through the physical organs of your bodies. A soul is not called a male, or a female; a soul is ONLY called a soul. Only the soul says through these organs: ‘I leave one body and take another’. All human beings are Brothers. As children of the Incorporeal Supreme Father Supreme Soul, you are Brothers among yourselves; and when You become the Children of PrajaPita Brahma (soul of DLR), You are Brothers and Sisters (BKs). Always continue to explain this to EVERYONE.”

NO embodied soul can EVER be called ‘Bhagwan’ (God)!

An embodied soul has BOTH, masculine, AS WELL AS, feminine sanskars within – masculine sanskars are predominant, while playing a role through a male corporeal body; whereas, feminine sanskars are predominant, while playing a role through a female corporeal body. The masculine & feminine sanskars within the SAME embodied soul are PERFECTLY BALANCED in the very beginning, when the soul descends from the Soul World to this corporeal sphere, and they progressively become UNBALANCED as the soul continues to take subsequent corporeal bodies, masculine or feminine – and maximum TWO successive corporeal bodies can be of the SAME gender!


सतयुग से त्रेता तक रामराज्य, द्वापर से कलियुग तक रावणराज्य। ब्रह्मा का दिन सो ब्रह्माकुमार-कुमारियों का दिन। ब्रह्मा की रात सो बी.के. की रात। अभी रात पूरी हो दिन आना है। गाया हुआ है, ‘विनाश काले विपरीत बुद्धि ..’। तीन सेनायें भी हैं। परमपिता को कहा जाता है ‘बीलव्ड मोस्ट गॉड फादर’, ‘ओशन ऑफ नॉलेज’। तो जरूर नॉलेज देते होंगे ना। सृष्टि का चैतन्य बीजरूप है। सुप्रीम सोल है, अर्थात् ऊंच से ऊंच भगवान् है।
“The ‘Kingdom of RAMA’ is from the Golden Age to the Silver Age; and the ‘kingdom of Ravan’ is from the Copper Age to the Iron Age. When it is the ‘Day of Brahma’, it is the Day of the Brahma Kumars and Kumaris (BKs); and when it is the ‘Night of Brahma’, it is the Night of the Brahma Kumars and Kumaris (BKs). The Night is now to end, and the Day is to come. It is remembered: ‘There are those who have non-loving intellects at the time of destruction ..’. There are also the THREE Armies (Pandavas, Kauravas & Yadavas). The Supreme Father is called ‘most Beloved God Father’, the ‘Ocean of Knowledge’. So, He would surely be giving You Knowledge. He (Shiva) is the Living Seed Form of the World. He (Shiva) is the Supreme Soul, that is, He is God (‘Bhagwan’), the Highest-on-High.

NO embodied soul can EVER be called Supreme Soul (‘Paramatma’), or Highest-on-High ‘Bhagwan’ (God)! These terms pertain to ONLY ONE Incorporeal God Father Shiva, ALONE!

In Confluence Age, the ‘shooting’ of the ‘Day of Brahma’ takes place, more SPECIFICALLY, WHEN Brahma Baba, or soul of DLR, enacts the COMBINED roles of INCOGNITO JagadAmba, AS WELL AS, EVIDENT JagadPita or PrajaPita, through his ORDINARY impure corporeal body, UNTIL 1969; while, the ‘shooting’ of the ‘Night of Brahma’ takes place, more SPECIFICALLY, WHEN Brahma Baba, or soul of DLR, enacts the COMBINED roles of INCOGNITO JagadAmba, AS WELL AS, INCOGNITO JagadPita or PrajaPita, through his ELEVATED subtle body, AFTER 1969, UNTIL the VERY END of Confluence Age!

The THREE Armies - Pandavas, Kauravas & Yadavas - exist within the Yagya, in the SEED form, AS WELL AS, in the ROOT form – on an INCOGNITO level; and ALSO exist in the outer World of Ravan Rajya, in the BRANCH form – on an EVIDENT level – on the basis of their corresponding GOVERNING, INHERENT sanskars, tendencies, or proclivities!

The Righteous Children have Loving intellects with Incorporeal God Father Shiva, at the time of destruction.

The Unrighteous children ACTUALLY have non-loving intellects with Incorporeal God Father Shiva, at the time of destruction – and instead, they ACTUALLY have loving intellects with the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, etc., through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, who also MASQUERADES as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God - while SIMULTANEOUSLY, DELUSIVELY, but STAUNCHLY believing that they have ‘loving’ intellects with Incorporeal God Father Shiva!


भारत ही मेरा बर्थप्लेस है। सोमनाथ का मन्दिर, शिव का मन्दिर भी यहाँ है। मैं अपने बर्थ प्लेस को ही स्वर्ग बनाता हूँ, फिर रावण नर्क बनाता है, अर्थात् रावण की मत पर चल नर्कवासी, आसुरी सम्प्रदाय बन पड़ते हैं। फिर उन्हों को बदलकर मैं दैवी सम्प्रदाय, श्रेष्ठाचारी बनाता हूँ। यह विषय सागर है। वह है क्षीर सागर। वहाँ घी की नदियाँ बहती हैं। सतयुग-त्रेता में भारत सदा सुखी सालवेन्ट था, हीरे जवाहरों के महल थे। अभी तो भारत 100 परसेन्ट इनसालवेन्ट है। मैं ही आकर 100 परसेन्ट सालवेन्ट, श्रेष्ठाचारी बनाता हूँ।
“ONLY Bharat is My Birth-place. The Somnath Temple and the temples to Shiva are also here. I make ONLY My Birth-place (Bharat) into Heaven; and THEN Ravan makes it into Hell. This means that by following the dictates of Ravan, they become residents of Hell, the Devilish community. Then, I change them and make them into the elevated Divine community. This (Hell - Ravan Rajya) is the ‘ocean of Poison’; and that (Heaven – RamRajya) is the ‘ocean of Milk’; Rivers of ghee flow there. In the Golden and Silver Ages, Bharat was constantly happy and solvent, and there were palaces of diamonds and jewels. Bharat is now 100% insolvent. I, Myself, come and make it 100% solvent and elevated.”

By Studying & INCULCATING the ‘Shrimat’ of Incorporeal God Father Shiva, in the form of the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge (TRUE Gita) - which is the ‘Ocean of Milk, or Butter’, or the ‘Ocean of Nectar’ - the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, qualify to claim their Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya, during the ‘Day of Brahma’, in Confluence Age ITSELF – number-wise, in accordance with their Spiritual efforts made during Confluence Age.

Whereas, by studying & INCULCATING the dictates of the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, in the form of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge (‘shooting’ of the FALSE Gita) - which is the ‘ocean of Butter-milk’, or the ‘ocean of Poison’ - the BLIND Unrighteous children, or FALSE Brahmins, qualify to claim their ‘unlimited’ inheritance of sovereignty of Ravan Rajya, during the ‘Night of Brahma’, in Confluence Age ITSELF – number-wise, in accordance with their spiritual efforts made, more specifically, during the latter part of Confluence Age.


बाप बैठ समझाते हैं कि भक्ति मार्ग है छांछ, ज्ञान मार्ग है मक्खन। कृष्ण के मुख में मक्खन दिखलाते हैं, यानि विश्व का राज्य था, लक्ष्मी-नारायण विश्व के मालिक थे। बाप ही आकर बेहद का वर्सा देते हैं, अर्थात् विश्व का मालिक बनाते हैं। कहते हैं, मैं विश्व का मालिक नहीं बनता हूँ। अगर मालिक बनूँ तो फिर माया से हार भी खानी पड़े। माया से हार तुम खाते हो। फिर जीत भी तुमको पानी है।
The Father sits here and explains: The ‘path of Devotion’ is Butter-milk (FALSE Gita); and the ‘Path of Knowledge’ is Butter (TRUE Gita). They show butter in the mouth of Krishna. That means he had the Sovereignty of the World; Lakshmi & Narayan were the Masters of the World. The Father, Himself, comes and gives You the Unlimited inheritance, that is, He makes You into the ‘Masters of the World’. He says: I do not become the ‘Master of the World’. If I were to become the Master, I would then also have to be defeated by Maya. You are the ones who are defeated by Maya. THEN, You (yourselves) have to achieve victory also.”

The Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge (TRUE Gita), is the ‘Ocean of Milk, or Butter’, or the ‘Ocean of Nectar’ - which is given by Incorporeal God Father Shiva, ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba.

Whereas, the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge (‘shooting’ of the FALSE Gita), is the ‘ocean of Butter-milk’, or the ‘ocean of Poison’- which is initiated, and INFLUENCED, by the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God!


अब बाप कहते हैं, देह के धर्म छोड़ अपने को आत्मा समझ, मुझ बाप को याद करो। तुम बच्चों की अब बाप से प्रीत है। तुम और कोई को याद नहीं करते हो। तुम हो विनाश काले प्रीत बुद्धि। तुम जानते हो कि ‘श्री श्री 108’ परमपिता परमात्मा को ही कहा जाता है। 108 की माला फेरते हैं। ऊपर में है शिवबाबा, फिर मात-पिता ब्रह्मा-सरस्वती, फिर उनके बच्चे जो भारत को पावन बनाते हैं। रुद्राक्ष की माला गाई हुई है, उसको रूद्र यज्ञ भी कहा जाता है।
“The Father now says: Renounce the religions of the body, consider yourself to be a soul, and Remember Me, your Father. You Children now have Love for the (Incorporeal) Father. You do not Remember anyone else. You are those who have Loving intellects at the time of destruction. You know that ONLY the Supreme Father Supreme Soul (Shiva) can be called ‘Shri Shri 108’ (the One who enables 108 souls to become doubly ELEVATED). They turn the beads of the ‘Rosary of 108’. Up above is (Incorporeal, ‘Parlokik’ Mother & Father) ShivBaba, then the (‘Alokik’) Mother & Father, Brahma (soul of DLR) and Saraswati (soul of Om Radhe), and THEN their (elevated) Children who make Bharat pure. The ‘Rosary of Rudraksh’ has been remembered. This is called the sacrificial Fire of the Knowledge of Rudra.”

In the ‘Rosary of Rudra’, or the ‘Rosary of Rudraksh’, the ‘Tassel’ (‘phool’) represents the Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, ALONE; and the ‘dual-bead’ (‘meru’) represents Brahma Baba or soul of DLR & Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe – followed by the MOST ELEVATED Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, who assist the ‘Parlokik’ PARENT, Shiva – AND, the ‘Alokik’ Parents, Brahma Baba & Saraswati Mama - in making Bharat Pure, ONCE AGAIN, from being impure!

View point 4 of Revised SM dated 29.10.2018, of post dated 28.10.18, in link -
http://www.bk-pbk.info/viewtopic.php?f= ... sel#p53807
or type the word, ‘tassel’, in the search box of this topic, on the top left corner of the page, to view further points on this aspect!


यह है शिवबाबा का रथ। शिवबाबा इसमें रथी है। बाकी कोई घोड़े-गाड़ी आदि नहीं हैं। वह तो भक्तिमार्ग की सामग्री बैठ बनाई है। बाबा कहते हैं, मैं इस प्रकृति का आधार लेता हूँ। बाप समझाते हैं - पहले अव्यभिचारी भक्ति है, फिर कलियुग अन्त में पूरी व्यभिचारी बन जाती है। फिर बाप आकर भारत को मक्खन देते हैं। तुम विश्व के मालिक बनने लिए पढ़ रहे हो। बाप आकर मक्खन खिलाते हैं। रावण राज्य में छांछ शुरू हो जाती है। ये सब समझने की बातें हैं। नये बच्चे तो इन बातों को समझ न सकें।
THIS (soul of DLR) is ShivBaba's Chariot. ShivBaba is the Charioteer in THIS one (Brahma Baba); otherwise, there aren't any horse chariots, etc., here. They have just sat, and made up paraphernalia for the ‘path of Devotion’. Baba says: I take the support of this matter (corporeal body of soul of DLR). The Father explains: At first, there is UNADULTERATED Devotion, THEN it becomes COMPLETELY ADULTERATED, by the end of the Iron Age. Then the Father comes and gives the Butter (TRUE Gita) to Bharat. You are Studying to become the Masters of the World. The Father comes and feeds You Butter (TRUE Gita). Butter-milk (FALSE Gita) begins in Ravan’s kingdom (‘shooting’ of which takes place in the latter part of Confluence Age). All of these aspects have to be understood. New Children CANNOT understand these (SUBTLE) aspects.”

ONLY Brahma Baba, or soul of DLR, is the REAL, ORIGINAL, ETERNAL, APPOINTED Chariot of REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, THROUGH whom He gives the REAL Butter (TRUE Gita) to the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, to enable them to claim their Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya, in Confluence Age ITSELF!

Whereas, the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan is the DESIGNATED Chariot of the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya - who MASQUERADES as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, ‘Shiv-Shankar Bholenath’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – through whom the BLIND Unrighteous children, or FALSE Brahmins, receive the Butter-milk (‘shooting’ of the FALSE Gita), to enable them to claim their ‘unlimited’ inheritance of sovereignty of Ravan Rajya, in Confluence Age ITSELF!

At first, the ‘shooting’ of the ‘path of Devotion’, in the form of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge – which commences, more SPECIFICALLY, AFTER Brahma Baba leaves his corporeal body in 1969 - is UNADULTERATED; and LATER, towards the end, it becomes COMPLETELY ADULTERATED, WHEN the Defamer Of God, who is ACTUALLY the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God, etc., implies that he, himself, is the ‘Supreme Soul’ (‘Paramatma’), and ‘highest-on-high’ ‘Bhagwan’ - thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya!


‘निश्चय बुद्धि विजयन्ति, संशय बुद्धि विनशन्ति’। बाप शमा है। उस पर परवाने कोई तो एकदम फिदा हो जाते हैं, कोई फेरी पहनकर चले जाते हैं। समझते कुछ नहीं हैं। फिदा होने वाले बच्चे जानते हैं, बरोबर बेहद के बाप से हमको बेहद का वर्सा मिलता है। जो सिर्फ फेरी पहनकर चले जाते हैं, वह तो फिर प्रजा में ही नम्बरवार आ जायेंगे। जो फिदा होते हैं वह वर्सा लेते हैं, नम्बरवार पुरुषार्थ अनुसार। पुरुषार्थ से ही प्रालब्ध मिलती है।
“ ‘A faithful intellect is victorious; while a doubtful intellect gets defeated’. The Father is the Flame. Some Moths completely surrender themselves to Him; whereas, some simply circle around and go away, they DO NOT understand ANYTHING (in the CORRECT PERSPECTIVE). Children who surrender themselves know that they TRULY receive the Unlimited inheritance (of Sovereignty of RamRajya) from the Unlimited Father. Those who simply circle around and go away, will then become part of the subjects, number-wise (in RamRajya). Those who surrender themselves claim their inheritance, number-wise, according to the efforts they make. The reward received is ONLY according to the efforts made. ”

The Righteous Children are the REAL Moths, who surrender to the Incorporeal Flame - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or GodONLY THROUGH His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR – and thereby, claim their Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty in RamRajya.
The BLIND Unrighteous children who simply ‘circle around’ the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge (TRUE Gita), WITHOUT COMPREHENDING ANYTHING in the CORRECT PERSPECTIVE, THEN go away, and become part of the maids & servants, and subjects, during RamRajya, number-wise.

The BLIND Unrighteous children are the APPARENT ‘Moths’, who surrender to the APPARENT ‘Flame’ - being the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya - through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, ‘Shiv-Shankar-Bholenath’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God - and thereby, claim their ‘unlimited’ inheritance of sovereignty in Ravan Rajya.
The Righteous Children who simply ‘circle around’ the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge (‘shooting’ of the FALSE Gita), WITHOUT COMPREHENDING ANYTHING in the CORRECT PERSPECTIVE, are NOT ATTRACTED to same, and become part of the maids & servants, and subjects, during Ravan Rajya, number-wise!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!


तुम सृष्टि के आदि-मध्य-अन्त को जानते हो। तुम अब त्रिकालदर्शी, त्रिनेत्री बने हो। तुमको रचता और रचना के आदि-मध्य-अन्त की सारी नॉलेज मिल रही है। यह कोई दन्त कथा नहीं है। गीता है भगवान् की गाई हुई, परन्तु कृष्ण का नाम डाल, खण्डन कर दिया है। तुम बच्चों को अब सबका कल्याण करना है। तुम हो शिव शक्ति सेना। ‘वन्दे मातरम्’ गाया हुआ है। वन्दना पवित्र की ही की जाती है।
“You know the beginning, middle and end of the World. You have now become ‘Trikaldarshi’ (seers of the three aspects of Time) and ‘trinetri’ (ones with the Third Eye of Knowledge). You are now receiving ALL the Knowledge of the Creator, and the beginning, the middle and the end of creation. This is not a TALL story. The (TRUE) Gita is spoken by God (‘Bhagwan’), but they have FALSIFIED it by inserting Krishna’s name (in the FALSE Gita). You Children now have to benefit everyone. You are the Shiv Shakti Army. It is remembered: Salutations to the Mothers! Salutations are ONLY given to those who are pure.”

The Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, or TRUE Gita, is spoken ONLY by Incorporeal God Father Shiva, ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Incorporeal Orifice of Brahma Baba – for the benefit of the REAL ‘Shiv Shakti Army’.

Whereas, the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, being the ACCURATE ‘shooting’ of the FALSE Gita, is initiated, and INFLUENCED, by the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, and propagated through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – for the benefit of the APPARENT ‘Shiv Shakti Army’!
The Defamer Of God has FALSIFIED the TRUE Gita, in the form of the SMs & AVs, by DELUSIVELY implying that ONLY Brahma Baba, or the soul of Shri Krishna of the beginning of Golden Age, speaks the AVs; and that he, himself, is Confluence Age ‘Krishna’ - thus becoming instrumental to facilitate the ‘shooting’ of the FALSE Gita of Ravan Rajya, by formulating the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, in the latter part of Confluence Age!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!
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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 30.11.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
यह तो एक ही हट्टी है ब्रह्माकुमारियों की। जगत अम्बा है ब्रह्मा की मुख वंशावली। सरस्वती ब्रह्मा की बेटी मशहूर है। तुम जानते हो ‘मात-पिता’ से हमें सुख घनेरे मिले थे। अब वह ‘मात-पिता’ मिला हुआ है। बहुत सुख घनेरे दे रहे हैं। अच्छा, मात-पिता को जन्म देने वाला कौन? शिवबाबा। हमको रत्न शिवबाबा से मिलते हैं। तुम हो गये पोत्रे। हम अब सुख घनेरे उस बेहद के बाप से, ब्रह्मा सरस्वती, मात-पिता द्वारा ले रहे हैं। देने वाला वह है।
This is ONLY the ONE shop - that of the Brahma Kumaris (BKs). (EVIDENT) JagadAmba (soul of Om Radhe) is a ‘mouth-born’ progeny of Brahma (who is INCOGNITO JagadAmba). Saraswati, the Daughter of Brahma, is very famous. You know that You received immense Happiness FROM the (‘Parlokik’) ‘Mother & Father’. You have now found THAT ‘Mother & Father’ (Shiva). He is giving You immense Happiness. OK, who is the One who gives Birth to the (‘Alokik’) Mother and Father? (Incorporeal) ShivBaba. We receive Jewels (of Knowledge) from ShivBaba. You are His Grand-Children. We are NOW receiving immense Happiness from that Unlimited (‘Parlokik’) Father, THROUGH Brahma and Saraswati, who are the (‘Alokik’) Father and Mother. That One (Shiva) is the Bestower.

The Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ ‘Mother & Father’ - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or GodFIRST of ALL, gives Spiritual Re-Birth to the INCOGNITO ‘Alokik’ Mother, or INCOGNITO JagadAmba - REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, (who is the VERY SAME soul of Shri Krishna of the VERY BEGINNING of Golden Age, in his VERY FIRST Pure corporeal birth) – by entering his VERY LAST, 84th impure corporeal body at the end of Iron Age, and adopting him as His ONE & ONLY Spiritual Wife; and THEN, SIMULTANEOUSLY, adopting him as His VERY FIRST, DIRECT ‘mouth-born’ SPECIAL Child (‘murabbi bachha’) - who is Spiritually Re-Born through the Lotus Mouth of the corporeal body of Brahma Baba, himself, (who is ALSO the EVIDENT ‘Alokik’ Father, or JagadPita or PrajaPita, or the ‘Alokik’ Parent of the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins) – and THEN, Shiva gives Spiritual Re-Birth, through the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba, to ALL the OTHER Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, INCLUDING Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe, who becomes the Spiritual Daughter of Brahma Baba in Confluence Age, who is THEN delegated with the function of EVIDENT ‘Alokik’ Mother, or EVIDENT JagadAmba, being the ETERNAL Spiritual soul-mate or ‘yugal-dana’ of Brahma Baba within this EWD Play, although she is NOT the corporeal wife of Brahma Baba in Confluence Age – and the TWO of them TOGETHER, THEN become the EVIDENT ‘Alokik’ Parents, or the EVIDENT ‘Alokik’ Mother & Father of the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins – and since Incorporeal God Father Shiva is the ‘Parlokik’ PARENT of the ‘Alokik’ Parents, Incorporeal ShivBaba ALSO becomes the ‘Parlokik’ Grand-Father of the Righteous Children, in this SPECIFIC CONTEXT; besides ALSO being their ‘Parlokik’ PARENT, or ‘Parlokik’ ‘Mother & Father’!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!


तुम समझा सकते हो यादव, कौरव, पाण्डव क्या करते थे? पाण्डवों की तरफ तो है परमपिता परमात्मा। पाण्डव हैं ‘विनाश काले प्रीत बुद्धि’; कौरव और यादव हैं ‘विनाश काले विपरीत बुद्धि’, जो परमपिता परमात्मा को मानते ही नहीं।
“You can explain what the Yadavas, the Kauravas, and the Pandavas do. The Supreme Father Supreme Soul (Shiva) is on the side of the Pandavas. At the time of destruction, the Pandavas have loving intellects; whereas, the Kauravas and the Yadavas, who do not believe in the Supreme Father, the Supreme Soul, have non-loving intellects at the time of destruction.”

View point 2 of Revised SM dated 29.11.2018 in preceding post dated 29.11.18 of this topic, in link –
http://www.bk-pbk.info/viewtopic.php?f= ... 836#p53836


बच्चे तो बहुत हैं ना। तुम ‘मात-पिता’ द्वारा सुनते हो, तो तुमको खुशी होती है। सारी सृष्टि में हमारे जैसा सौभाग्यशाली कोई हो नहीं सकता! हमारे में भी कोई पद्मापद्म भाग्यशाली, कोई सौभाग्यशाली, कोई भाग्यशाली, और कोई दुर्भाग्यशाली भी हैं। जो आश्चर्यवत् भागन्ती हो जाते हैं, उनको कहेंगे महान् दुर्भाग्य-शाली। कोई न कोई कारण से बाप को फारकती दे देते हैं।
“There are many Children. Those of You who listen through the (‘Alokik’) Mother and Father (Brahma Baba & Saraswati Mama) experience Happiness. There can be no one in the whole World who is as fortunate as You. Among You too, some are multi-million times fortunate, some are one hundred times fortunate, some are just fortunate; and some are even unfortunate. Those who amazingly run away are said to be GREATLY unfortunate. For one reason or another, they divorce the Father.

The BLIND Unrighteous children who simply ‘circle around’ the Incorporeal Flame - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God - and THEN AMAZINGLY run away - AFTER being attracted to the APPARENT ‘Flame’ - being the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, ‘Shiv-Shankar-Bholenath’, etc., through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, who ALSO MASQUERADES as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – are said to be GREATLY unfortunate!

View point 7 of Revised SM dated 29.11.2018 in preceding post dated 29.11.18 of this topic, in link –
http://www.bk-pbk.info/viewtopic.php?f= ... 836#p53836


बाप तो बहुत मीठा है। समझते हैं, शिक्षा दूँ तो कहाँ फारकती न दे देवे। समझाते हैं, तुम विकार में जाकर कुल का नाम बदनाम करते हो। अगर नाम बदनाम करेंगे तो बहुत सजायें खानी पड़ेंगी। उसे कहा जायेगा, ‘सतगुरू का निंदक ..’, उन्होंने फिर अपने लौकिक गुरू के लिए समझ लिया है। अबलाओं को पुरुष भी डराते हैं।
“The Father is very Sweet. He understands that, if He gives them (certain) teachings, they might divorce Him. He explains that if You indulge in vice, You defame the name of the Clan; and that if You defame the name (of the Clan) You will have to endure a great deal of punishment. Such a person is called ‘one who defames the Satguru ..’; they have then misunderstood this to apply to their corporeal guru. Men also frighten their (innocent) women with this.

The Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that the Spiritual caution, ‘one who defames the Satguru .. (will NOT be ABLE to reach his Spiritual destination)’, pertains to himself - since, ACCORDING to him, Incorporeal God Father Shiva operates through his impure perishable corporeal body, as His ‘mukrar-rath’ or APPOINTED Chariot, AFTER Brahma Baba leaves his corporeal body in 1969 – and FURTHER, he Spiritually frightens, or Spiritually TERRORIZES, the IGNORANT/INNOCENT spinsters and mothers (‘kanyas & matas’) to physically copulate with him, by TREACHEROUSLY TRICKING them into DELUSIVELY believing that such physical sexual union with him, will COLOUR them with the Spiritual Company of Incorporeal God Father Shiva, and they will THEN become TRUE ‘Parvatis’, who will be ABLE to maintain a MORE STABLE Spiritual link with Incorporeal God Father Shiva, THEREAFTER - thus making COMPLETE SPIRITUAL IDIOTS out of them, and carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!
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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 01.12.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
गुरू लोग कान में मंत्र देते हैं, उसे वशीकरण मंत्र भी कहते हैं। वे तो सब मंत्र देते हैं, लेकिन तुम्हें मिलता है महामंत्र, जीवनमुक्ति का मंत्र। यह मंत्र कौन देते हैं? ब्रह्माकुमार-ब्रह्माकुमारियां। उन्हें यह मंत्र कहाँ से मिला? उस सतगुरू से। सर्वोत्तम तो एक ही बाप है। फिर तुम बच्चे सर्वोत्तम बनते हो। उनमें सर्वोत्तम गुरू होते हैं। तुम भी सतगुरू के बच्चे, गुरू हो। गीता सुनाने वाले को भी गुरू कहा जाता है। नम्बरवार तो होते ही हैं। तुम भी सत बोलने वाले गुरू हो। तुम कभी ईश्वर के बारे में झूठ नहीं बोलते हो।
“Gurus whisper a mantra in the ear; that is also called the ‘enchanting mantra’ (‘vashikaran mantra’). All of them give mantras; but You receive the GREAT Mantra, the Mantra for Liberation-in-Life. Who gives You this Mantra? The Brahma Kumars and Kumaris (BKs). Where did they receive this Mantra from? From that Satguru (Incorporeal Shiva). ONLY ONE Father (Shiva) is the MOST ELEVATED. Then You Children become the most elevated. There, they have the most elevated gurus. You are also ‘gurus’, the Children of the Satguru. Even those who relate the (FALSE) Gita are called gurus; they are number-wise. You too are ‘gurus’, who speak the Truth (who are ALSO number-wise). You never tell LIES about God.

The Righteous Children, or REAL ‘Spiritual gurus’, who relate the TRUE Gita, or the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, during Confluence Age - received from Incorporeal God Father Shiva, ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba - NEVER tell LIES about God (‘Bhagwan’) INTENTIONALLY; but owing to their powerful Bhakti sanskars, SOME LIES do emerge from them INADVERTENTLY, UNTIL they FINALLY become COMPLETELY Pure, by the VERY END of Confluence Age – UP TO 1 per cent from the FIRST 8 souls (who pass with HONOUR); UP TO 3 per cent from the next 100 souls (‘Maharathis’); UP TO 5 per cent from the next 16,000 souls (Cavalry – ‘ghodesavar’); and UP TO 10 per cent from the next 9,00,000 souls (Infantry – ‘pyadhe’)!

Whereas, the BLIND Unrighteous children, or APPARENT ‘bodily gurus’ - who propagate the ‘shooting’ of the FALSE Gita of Ravan Rajya, in the form of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, during the latter part of Confluence Age – initiated by the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, and disseminated through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God - ALWAYS tell LIES about God (‘Bhagwan’), (although UNINTENTIONALLY & INADVERTENTLY), owing to their EXTREMELY powerful Bhakti sanskars, UNTIL they also FINALLY become COMPLETELY Pure, by the VERY END of Confluence Age, through HARSH INTERNAL & EXTERNAL processes – UP TO 99 per cent being LIES; and the ONLY 1 per cent Truth, being the ACTUAL EXTRACTS of selected points from the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, or the TRUE Gita, in the form of SMs & AVs!


झूठ तो बहुतों से निकलती रहती है। पर यहाँ वह बात नहीं है। यहाँ है पवित्रता की बात। गृहस्थ व्यवहार में रहते, इस अन्तिम जन्म में हम बाप से प्रतिज्ञा करते हैं कि हम कमल पुष्प समान पवित्र रहेंगे। तो यहाँ पवित्र रहने की बात है। कहेंगे यह तो बहुत ऊंच मंज़िल है। यह तो हो नहीं सकता। तुम कहेंगे वाह, क्यों नहीं हो सकता? यह तो गाया हुआ है, ‘कमल फूल समान ..’, यह दृष्टान्त शास्त्रों में लिखा हुआ है। जरूर बाप ने ही ऐसी शिक्षा दी है। है भी भगवानुवाच, या ब्राह्मणों वाच। भगवान् सबको नहीं सुनाते हैं। ब्राह्मण बच्चे ही सुनते हैं। यह बात तुम्हें सबको समझानी है। मूल बात है पवित्रता की।
“Many people continue to tell LIES, but it is not like that here. Here, it is a question of Purity. While living within the house-hold, You promise the Father that You will remain as pure as a lotus flower, in this final birth. Therefore, here it is a question of remaining Pure. They say that this is a very high destination, that it is not possible. You say: ‘Vow! Why is it not possible’? It is remembered: ‘To live like a lotus ..’, and this example is (also) written in the Scriptures. Surely, ONLY the Father would have given You such teachings. There are the Versions of God, and the versions of Brahmins. God (‘Bhagwan’) DOES NOT speak to everyone. ONLY the (Righteous) Brahmin Children listen to Him (with PROPER comprehension, and then explain to EVERYONE). You have to explain this to EVERYONE, that the MAIN aspect is Purity.

The Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God DOES NOT relate the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, or TRUE Gita, to EVERYONE – but ONLY TEACHES same to the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba.
The Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, who COMPREHEND same in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE, ACCORDING to their degree of Purity ACTUALLY INCULCATED, THEN explain same to EVERYONE – number-wise, in ACCORDANCE with their Spiritual efforts made, at any given time.


तो जो भी आते हैं उनको समझाना पड़े। सुना तो है, ‘सेकेण्ड में जीवनमुक्ति’। गृहस्थ व्यवहार में रहते ऊंच पद पाया जा सकता है। हम अनुभव से कहते हैं, गपोड़ा नहीं मारते हैं। भगवानुवाच - मुख्य बात समझानी है - भगवान् सबका बाप है। जरूर जीवनमुक्ति दाता भी वही है। यह है प्रवृत्ति मार्ग। सन्यासियों का तो है ही निवृति मार्ग। वह कभी राजयोग सिखला नहीं सकते। वह तो घरबार छोड़ भागने वाले हैं। वो यह ज्ञान दे नहीं सकते, यह है राजयोग। गृहस्थ व्यवहार में रहते, कमल फूल समान पवित्र रहना है।
“You have to explain to whoever comes here: You have heard about ‘Liberation-in-Life’ in a second. It is possible to claim a high status while living within the house-hold. We speak from experience, we do not just tell LIES. God speaks: Explain the MAIN aspect that God (‘Bhagwan’) is the Father of EVERYONE. He is also definitely the Bestower of ‘Liberation-in-Life’. This is the ‘family path’. Sannyasis belong to the ‘path of isolation’. They can never teach RajYog. They leave their homes and families and run away. They cannot give THIS (Pure UNADULTERATED) Knowledge. This is RajYog. While living within the house-hold, You have to remain as pure as a lotus flower.”

NO embodied soul can EVER be called ‘Bhagwan’ (God).

The BLIND Unrighteous children - who are TREACHEROUSLY TRICKED into DELUSIVELY believing that THEIR bodily guru is the ‘Supreme Soul’ (‘Paramatma’), and ‘highest-on-high’ ‘Bhagwan’ – but who is ACTUALLY the Defamer Of God, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – ONLY propagate the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, being the EXACT ‘shooting’ of the FALSE Scriptures & FALSE Gita of the outer World of Ravan Rajya; and hence, they CANNOT give the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, or TRUE Gita, to ANYONE!


भगवान् है स्वर्ग रचने वाला। नर्क का रचयिता है रावण। ...
पहले-पहले देवी-देवता थे। उन्हों के ही 84 जन्म कहे जाते हैं। भारत की नॉलेज है ना। प्राचीन भारत की नॉलेज किसने दी? कृष्ण को नहीं मानेंगे। यह भगवान् ने ही दी है। नॉलेजफुल गॉड फादर है ना। ब्रह्मा को भी नॉलेजफुल नहीं कहेंगे, कृष्ण को भी नहीं कहेंगे। कृष्ण की महिमा ही अलग है। यह समझने की बड़ी ही क्लीयर नॉलेज है। भगवान् तो सबका एक ही निराकार परमपिता परमात्मा है। वह है रचयिता। कृष्ण तो है रचना। ऊंच ते ऊंच भगवान् तो एक है ना।
God is the One who creates Heaven. Ravan is the creator of Hell. ...
First of all, there were the Deities; and they are the ones who are said to have 84 births. This is the Knowledge of Bharat. Who gave the Knowledge of ancient Bharat? ALL would not believe that Krishna gave it. God (‘Bhagwan’) Himself gave it. He is Knowledge-FULL God Father (Shiva). Neither Brahma, nor Krishna can be called Knowledge-FULL. The praise of Krishna is separate. This is very CLEAR Knowledge which has to be understood. The God (‘Bhagwan’) of EVERYONE is ONLY ONE Incorporeal Supreme Father Supreme Soul (Shiva). He (Shiva) is the Creator; whereas, Krishna (soul of DLR) is the creation. God (‘Bhagwan’), the Highest on High, is ONE (Incorporeal Shiva).

The Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God – creates Heaven, through the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, or TRUE Gita, spoken ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba, during Confluence Age!

Whereas, the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, is the ‘creator’ of Hell, who initiates and propagates the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


भारत का धर्म शास्त्र तो है ही एक माई बाप गीता। वर्सा उनसे ही मिलता है। माँ द्वारा, बाप से वर्सा मिलता है। गीता माता का बाप है रचता। तो गीता द्वारा ही बाप ने प्राचीन सहज राजयोग की नॉलेज दी है। गीता तो भारतखण्ड का शास्त्र है।
“The religious Scripture of Bharat is just the ONE ‘mother & father’ Gita. ONLY through that do You receive the inheritance. You receive the inheritance from the Father (Shiva) through the ‘mother’ (Gita). The Father (Shiva) of the ‘mother’ Gita is the Creator. So, the Father gives the ancient Knowledge of easy RajYog ONLY through the (TRUE) Gita. The Gita is the Scripture of the Land of Bharat.”

The Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, receive their Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya, from Incorporeal God Father Shiva, through the TRUE ‘mother’ Gita, in the form of the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, or SMs & AVs, spoken ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba - in Confluence Age ITSELF!

Whereas, the BLIND Unrighteous children, or FALSE Brahmins, receive their ‘unlimited’ inheritance of sovereignty of Ravan Rajya, from the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, through the FALSE ‘mother’ Gita, in the form of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, propagated through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God - in Confluence Age ITSELF!
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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A AV 05.03.1984, Revised 02.12.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba, AFTER 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children - 1) who were PHYSICALLY present FACE to FACE with God, through the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar; and 2) who were SPIRITUALLY present FACE to FACE with God, through their own Divine Intellects, in their own 'Akari' stage.
The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
जब एटॉमिक और आत्मिक, दोनों शक्तियों का मेल हो जायेगा, आत्मिक शक्ति से एटॉमिक शक्ति भी सतोप्रधान बुद्धि द्वारा सुख के कार्य में लगेगी; तब दोनों शक्तियों के मिलन द्वारा शान्तिमय दुनिया इस भूमि पर प्रत्यक्ष होगी क्योंकि शान्ति, सुखमय स्वर्ग के राज्य में दोनों शक्तियाँ हैं। तो सतोप्रधान बुद्धि अर्थात् सदा श्रेष्ठ, सत्य कर्म करने वाली बुद्धि। ‘सत’ अर्थात् अविनाशी भी है। हर कर्म अविनाशी बाप, अविनाशी आत्मा, इस स्मृति से अविनाशी प्राप्ति वाला होगा, इसलिए कहते हैं ‘सत कर्म’।
When BOTH, atomic and ‘atmic’ (soul), powers become UNITED; when ‘atomic power’ also carries out tasks of happiness, through a ‘satopradhan’ intellect, with the ‘Power of the soul’, then, with the UNITY of BOTH powers, the World of Peace will be revealed on THIS earth; because BOTH powers exist in the Kingdom of Peaceful and Happy Heaven. Therefore, a ‘satopradhan’ intellect means an intellect that always performs elevated and ‘truthful actions’. ‘Truth’ also means ‘imperishable’. By performing every action in the awareness of the imperishable Father, and the imperishable soul, the attainment would also be imperishable, which is why they speak of ‘truthful actions’. ”

BOTH, atomic, AS WELL AS, ‘atmic’ (soul), POWERS exist in the Peaceful & Happy Kingdom of the forthcoming New World of RamRajya, during the ‘Day of Brahma’, or the ‘Day of the Cycle’, during Golden & Silver Ages!


लन्दन के नोबल विजेता वैज्ञानिक जोसिफसन बापदादा से मिल रहे हैं :
शान्ति की शक्ति द्वारा साइन्स की शक्ति को भी यथार्थ रूप से कार्य में लगाने से, विश्व का कल्याण करने के निमित्त बन सकते हो। साइन्स की शक्ति भी आवश्यक है, लेकिन सिर्फ सतोप्रधान बुद्धि बनने से, इसका यथार्थ रूप से प्रयोग कर सकते हैं। आज सिर्फ इसी नॉलेज की कमी है कि यथार्थ रीति से इसको कार्य में कैसे लगायें। यही साइन्स, इस नॉलेज के आधार पर, नई सृष्टि की स्थापना के निमित्त बनेंगी।
Nobel Laureate( Scientist) Professor Brian Josephson meeting BapDada:
“By using the ‘power of science’ ACCURATELY, through the ‘Power of Silence’, you can become an instrument to benefit the World. The ‘power of science’ is ALSO essential, but you can use it ACCURATELY, ONLY with a ‘satopradhan’ intellect. Today, the Knowledge of how to use it in an ACCURATE way is lacking. On the basis of this Knowledge, this SAME science will become instrumental in the establishment of the New World.”

Constructive, REFINED ‘power of science’ is ALSO essential for the establishment and development of the forthcoming New World of RamRajya, ALONG WITH the subtle ‘Power of the soul’!
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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 03.12.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
सूक्ष्म हैं देवतायें, वह तो सिर्फ 3 हैं। उनसे भी अति सूक्ष्म है परमात्मा। अब ‘हे परमपिता परमात्मा’ - यह कौन कहते हैं? आत्मा। परमपिता परमात्मा को परम आत्मा कहते हैं। लौकिक बाप को आत्मा ‘परमपिता’ नहीं कह सकती है। जब पारलौकिक परमपिता परमात्मा को याद करते हैं तो उसको देही-अभिमानी कहा जाता है। जब देह अभिमान में हैं, तो देह के साथ सम्बन्ध रखने वाला बाबा याद आ जाता है। वह फिर है आत्मा के साथ सम्बन्ध रखने वाला बाबा। वह अब आये हुए हैं। आत्मा बुद्धि से जानती है, आत्मा में बुद्धि है ना। तो परमपिता परमात्मा जरूर पारलौकिक पिता ठहरा। उनको ईश्वर कहा जाता है।
“The Deities (of the Subtle Region) are subtle, and there are just THREE of them, but even very much SUBTLER than them is the Supreme Soul. Now, who says: ‘O Supreme Father Supreme Soul’? Souls. The Supreme Father Supreme Soul (Shiva) is called Supreme. A soul cannot call his corporeal father ‘Supreme Father’. When You Remember the ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul (Shiva), then that is called being soul-conscious. When you are body-conscious, the father who has a relationship with the (corporeal) body is remembered. The other is the (Incorporeal) Baba, who has a relationship with the (incorporeal) souls. He has now come here. The soul knows with the intellect, because each soul has an intellect. Therefore, the Supreme Father Supreme Soul (Shiva) is surely the ‘Parlokik’ Father. He is called God.”

The Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, are ABLE to have ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of ONLY ONE Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, ALONEas a POINT source of Spiritual Light EnergyONLY WHEN, they FIRST consider themselves ALSO as souls – also as a Point source of Spiritual Light Energy!


भल किसमें ज्ञान बहुत अच्छा हो, योग भी अच्छा हो, परन्तु साथ-साथ चलन भी अच्छी चाहिए। दैवी चलन उनकी होगी जिनमें काम, क्रोध, लोभ, मोह, अहंकार का भूत नहीं होगा। यह बड़े-बड़े भूत हैं। तुम बच्चों में कोई भी भूत नहीं होना चाहिए। हम हैं भूत निकालने वाले। वह अशुद्ध आत्मायें जो भटकती हैं, उन्हें भूत कहा जाता है। उस भूत को निकालने वाले भी उस्ताद होते हैं। यह जो 5 विकारों रूपी भूत हैं, यह तो परमपिता परमात्मा के सिवाए कोई निकाल न सके। सर्व के भूतों को निकालने वाला एक। सर्व की सद्गति करने वाला एक। रावण से लिबरेट कराने वाला भी एक। यह हैं बड़े भूत।
Although some of You may have very good Knowledge, and also good Yoga, but together with that, good conduct is also required. The behaviour of those who do not have the evil spirits of lust, anger, greed, attachment or ego, would be Divine. These are very big evil spirits. You Children should not have any evil spirits within. We are exorcists (who remove evil spirits). Impure souls that wander around are called ghosts (evil spirits). The exorcists who remove those ghosts (who wander around) are also masters. No one, APART from the Supreme Father Supreme Soul (Shiva) can remove these evil spirits of the five vices. The One who removes the evil spirits from EVERYONE is ONE (Incorporeal God Father Shiva). The One who grants Salvation to ALL is ONE. The One who liberates You from Ravan is also ONE. These are big evil spirits.”

NOBLE conduct & ROYAL behaviour, in PRACTICAL human interactions, are the EVIDENT PROOF of having TRULY imbibed the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, along with ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of ONLY ONE Incorporeal God Father Shiva!


बच्चों को बड़ी युक्ति से प्रश्नावली लिखना चाहिए - प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा और उनकी मुख वंशावली को जानते हो? जिसका नाम सरस्वती है, वह है ज्ञान ज्ञानेश्वरी। उनको ‘गॉडेज ऑफ नॉलेज’ कहते हैं। यह है जगत अम्बा। तो जरूर उनके बच्चे भी होंगे। बाप भी होगा। नॉलेज देने वाला तो वह ठहरा। अब यह प्रजापिता और जगत अम्बा कौन है? उनको ‘धन-लक्ष्मी’ भी कहते हैं, तब ज्ञान ज्ञानेश्वरी नहीं है। यह ब्रह्मा-सरस्वती राज-राजेश्वरी बनते हैं। तो उनके बच्चे भी जरूर स्वर्ग के मालिक बनते होंगे।
“You Children should write the questionnaire very tactfully: Do You know Prajapita Brahma and his ‘mouth-born’ progeny? The one who is called Saraswati is the ‘goddess of Knowledge’. She is called the ‘goddess of Knowledge’. THIS one (Om Radhe) is (EVIDENT) JagadAmba. So, surely, there would be her Children, and also her (‘Parlokik’) Father (Shiva). He is the One who gives Knowledge (THROUGH her ‘Alokik’ Father – Brahma Baba). So, who are these PrajaPita and JagadAmba? She is also called the ‘goddess of Wealth’ (Shri LakshmiOF Golden Age). At THAT time (in Golden Age), she is not the ‘goddess of Knowledge’. THESE Brahma and Saraswati (of Confluence Age) THEN become the Sovereigns (in Golden Age). Therefore, their children must surely also become the Masters of Heaven.”

EVEN EVIDENT JagadAmba, who is Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe, ALSO receives the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge (TRUE Gita) ONLY from the Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God – and ONLY THROUGH REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev - who is ALSO INCOGNITO JagadAmba - besides ALSO being the ‘Alokik’ Father, or JagadPita or PrajaPita of Saraswati Mama, and ALL the other Righteous Children!


अब यह है संगम, कुम्भ। उस कुम्भ के मेले में देखो क्या होता है, भक्ति मार्ग के अर्थ और इसमें रात-दिन का फर्क है। वह है पानी की नदी और सागर का मेला। यह हैं ह्युमन गंगायें जो ज्ञान सागर से निकलती हैं, उनका मेला।
“This is now the Confluence, the ‘Kumbha’. Look at what happens at that gathering of ‘Kumbha’! There is the difference of Night and Day between its meaning on the ‘Path of Devotion’, and its meaning here. That is the confluence of the waters of the river and the ocean. This is the Meeting (‘Mela’) of the human Ganges, who emerge from the ‘Ocean of Knowledge’ (Incorporeal Shiva).”

On the ‘Path of Devotion’, the gathering of ‘Kumbha’ (‘Khumb mela’) is at the confluence of the waters of the river and the ocean.
Whereas, in the AUSPICIOUS Confluence Age, the Spiritual Meeting (‘Mela’) of the human Ganges (Righteous Children) & the ‘Ocean of Knowledge’ (Incorporeal Shiva), takes place!
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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 04.12.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
तुम आत्मायें ब्रदर्स हो, एक बाप की सन्तान बने हो। निश्चयबुद्धि भी नम्बरवार हैं। लौकिक सम्बन्ध में निश्चय रहता ही है कि बाप से वर्सा पाना है। यहाँ बाप से माया घड़ी-घड़ी मुंह फेर देती है। सर्वशक्तिमान बाप के बनते हो, तो माया भी सर्वशक्तिमान होकर लड़ती है।
“You souls are Brothers, and You have become Children of the ONE (Incorporeal) Father. Those whose intellects have faith are also number-wise. In a worldly relationship you always have the faith that you are going to receive your inheritance from your (corporeal) father. Here, Maya repeatedly turns your face away from the Father. You belong to the Almighty Authority Father (Shiva), and so Maya, too, becomes an ‘almighty authority’ and fights with You.

The Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, also becomes an ‘almighty authority’ – VERY MUCH LIKE the Almighty Authority, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Father Shiva - and fights with the BLIND Unrighteous children, in PARTICULAR, and repeatedly turns their face AWAY from the Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God – by POWERFULLY ATTRACTING them, and THOROUGHLY INDOCTRINATING them, with the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God - thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


ऐसे भी नहीं कि यहाँ बैठ जाना है। घरबार तो छोड़ना नहीं है। वह तो घरबार छोड़ते हैं। गुरू को भगवान् समझते हैं। वह कोई जीते जी मरते नहीं हैं। तुमको तो जीते जी मरकर, फिर सतयुग में जीना है। तुम बाप से बेहद का वर्सा लेते हो। जब निश्चय हुआ कि बेहद का बाप पढ़ाते हैं, 21 जन्मों का वर्सा देते हैं, तो उनकी श्रीमत पर चलना पड़े। ... बाप का बनकर फिर गृहस्थ व्यवहार में भी रहना है। ...
आगे चलकर बहुत कुछ पता लग जायेगा। घड़ी-घड़ी तुम ध्यान में चले जायेंगे। जैसे शुरू में जाते थे।
“It isn’t that You just have to sit here (in Madhuban). You MUST NOT leave your house-hold. They leave their house-hold (home and family). They consider THEIR (bodily) guru to be ‘Bhagwan’ (god). They DO NOT die alive. You have to die alive, and then live in the Golden Age. You are claiming your Unlimited inheritance from the Father. You have faith that the Unlimited Father (Shiva) is TEACHING You, and giving You the inheritance for 21 births, and so You should follow His directions. ... After belonging to the Father, You still have to live at home with your family. ...
As you progress further, You will come to know a great deal. You will repeatedly go into trance, just as You used to go in the beginning.”

LIKEWISE, in Confluence Age, the BLIND Unrighteous children DELUSIVELY, but STAUNCHLY, believe THEIR bodily guru to be the ‘Supreme Soul’ (‘Paramatma’), and ‘highest-on-high’ ‘Bhagwan’ - thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!
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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 05.12.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
बाप बच्चों को समझाते हैं - हम परमपिता परमात्मा और तुम बच्चे जो आत्मायें हो, दोनों इस सूर्य, चांद, सितारों से उस पार रहते हैं, उसको मूलवतन कहा जाता है। जैसे यहाँ आकाश में सूर्य, चांद, सितारे हैं, वैसे हूबहू झाड के मुआफ़िक महतत्व में भी आत्मायें रहती हैं। जैसे सितारे आकाश पर खड़े हैं, कोई चीज़ पर आधार नहीं है। अहम् आत्मायें और परमात्मा बाप, हम सब रहने वाले महतत्व में हैं। स्टार मुआफ़िक ही हैं। ज्ञान सूर्य, ज्ञान चन्द्रमा, ज्ञान सितारे।
“The Father explains to You Children: Both, I, Supreme Father Supreme Soul (Shiva), and You Children who are souls, reside beyond this sun, moon and stars; and that place is called the Incorporeal World. Just as there are the sun, the moon and the stars in the sky, in the same way, souls reside in the great element (Brahm), in the shape of a Tree (of Incorporeal souls). Just as stars ‘standing’ in the sky are not supported by anything, similarly, we souls and the Father, the Supreme Soul, are residents of the great element (Brahm). We too are like stars; the Sun of Knowledge (Incorporeal Shiva), the Moon of Knowledge (Brahma Baba), and the Stars of Knowledge (Righteous Children).

The term, ‘Sun of Knowledge’, pertains to ONLY ONE Incorporeal God Father Shiva, ALONE – and CANNOT pertain to ANY OTHER embodied soul, on this corporeal sphere!

This CLEARLY PROVES that ANY embodied soul, who implies that he, himself, is the ‘Sun of Knowledge’, is an IMPOSTOR – instrumental to carry out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


यह अच्छी रीति नोट करो - हर एक आत्मा को सतो, रजो, तमो से पास करना है। जैसे पहले लक्ष्मी-नारायण आयेंगे तो उनको सतो-रजो अवस्था से पास होते, पुनर्जन्म लेते-लेते, फिर तमोप्रधान अवस्था को पाना ही है। हर एक का ऐसे है। वापिस जा नहीं सकते। इब्राहम, बुद्ध आते हैं, उनको भी सतो, रजो, तमो से पास करना है, पुनर्जन्म लेना पड़ता है। द्वापर में धर्म स्थापक आते हैं। वहाँ से पुनर्जन्म शुरू होता है, फिर तमोप्रधान बनना है। अब उनकी सद्गति कौन करे? सद्गति दाता तो एक ही शिव है। कहते हैं, सबकी सद्गति करने मुझे आना पड़ता है।
Note this down very well: Every soul has to go through the stages of ‘sato’, ‘rajo’ and ‘tamo’. JUST AS Lakshmi & Narayan, who come first, have ALSO to pass through the stages of ‘sato’ and ‘rajo’ (and ‘tamo’), and CERTAINLY reach their ‘tamopradhan’ stage, while continuing to take rebirth; SO it is the same for EVERYONE, they CANNOT return Home (UNTIL they become ‘satopradhan’, or COMPLETELY PURE, once again). When Abraham and Buddha come, they too have to pass through the ‘sato’, ‘rajo’ and ‘tamo’ stages; they have to take rebirth. The founders of religions come in the Copper Age. (THEIR) Re-birth commences from there (Copper Age), and then they have to become ‘tamopradhan’. Now, who can grant them Salvation? ONLY ONE Shiva is the Bestower of Salvation. He says: I have to come to grant Salvation to EVERYONE.”

Those souls, who descend on this corporeal sphere, from the very beginning of Copper Age, also take re-birth, but they are NOT CLEARLY AWARE of same, during EACH of their re-births, due to which they consider the leaving of a corporeal body to be DEATH, and the soul to be MORTAL, during Copper & Iron Ages!

Those souls, who descend on this corporeal sphere, from the very beginning of Golden Age, ALSO take re-birth, but they are CLEARLY AWARE of same, during EACH of their re-births, due to which they DO NOT consider the leaving of a corporeal body to be DEATH, since they are AWARE that the soul is IMMORTAL, during Golden & Silver Ages – which is why, this period of time is called the IMMORTAL World (‘Amar Lok’), or ‘World of Immortality’ (‘Amar Puri’)!


जो भी सब आत्मायें हैं, सबका पार्ट ड्रामा में फिक्स है। किसकी एक्ट बदल नहीं सकती। हर एक की पूरी एक्ट का अनादि ड्रामा बना हुआ है। ड्रामा अनादि है, उसका आदि, मध्य, अन्त नहीं है। सृष्टि की आदि सतयुग को कहा जाता, और अन्त कलियुग को कहा जाता है। बाकी ड्रामा का आदि अन्त नहीं है। ड्रामा कब बना, यह नहीं कह सकते। यह प्रश्न उठ नहीं सकता!
“The parts of ALL souls are FIXED in Drama. No one’s act can change. The eternal
Drama of each one’s FULL act is predestined. Drama is eternal; it has no beginning, middle or end. The beginning of the World is called the Golden Age, and the end (of the World) is called the Iron Age, but there is no beginning, or end, of Drama. You cannot ask when Drama was created. This question cannot arise.

Although there is a beginning, middle and end of Drama, it is SAID that there is no beginning, middle or end, of this Eternal World Drama, since this Drama KEEPS on REPEATING identically, EVERY Cycle – in this PARTICULAR SENSE, or CONTEXT. Only a LIMITED drama can be said to have a beginning, or an end!
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