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We receive our inheritance through Jagadamba

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Extract from cass256

"The Gita is the crown jewel of all the scriptures. It has been sung by God. Who? People say „mother Gita‟, don‟t they? So, is mother Gita a non-living thing? When she is a mother, certainly she might have existed in a living form. When there is a mother, then there will also be a Father with her. Gita is praised to be the most elevated among all the scriptures. But that is a non-living Gita, which is made of paper. That has been created by human beings. The Supreme Soul didn‟t create a non-living Gita. Which Gita did He create? He created a living Gita. Those are the non-living scriptures. The word „shaastra‟ is also derived from the word ‘shaas’. Shaas means the book that rules (shaasan). So, the Supreme Soul made her the most elevated (shresht) controller (niyanta), He made her a ruler (shaasak). Who? Who rules in the most elevated (shresht) way? From the beginning to the end, she rules in the most elevated way. Who is she? The one who is called prakriti, kudrat (nature). Kudrat belongs to the Supreme Soul. He is called the Lord of nature (prakritipati). Who? God. So, she is the creation of God. And God is the Creator. Call her prakriti (nature) or the mother Gita. She is the first creation of the Father. People thought that she is non-living. She isn‟t non-living. In comparison to the Father, the mother is inert. The Father is intellectual and the mother is emotional. The mother is the heart and not the brain. Why? It is because the mother is meant only to follow the Father. She shouldn‟t use her mind. What should she do? She should become the follower of the Father. So, the Father and the mother. The Father is Gita‟s husband, [meaning] God, and the mother is His follower. She dances to his tunes. So, she is the gem of the crown (shiromani) among all the scriptures. There are many scriptures of the other religions as well. There must be a cooperative shakti of those religious fathers also, who becomes the ruler in their own families. So similarly, there is a mother of the Ancient Deity Religion too, who is the first controller. For this it has been said in the Murli, who received the emperorship of the world from the Supreme Father Supreme Soul? The World Father. And the World Mother received it from the World Father. And all the children received it from the World Mother. So, who is the controller? The mother. To whom did the Father entrust the responsibility of running the household? To the mother. In India it has been a tradition that the entire world is a family because when He is the Father of everyone, when He is the Father of the entire world, then the world is one family, isn‟t it? Who performs all the tasks of the new world that the Supreme Soul Father establishes? Who makes all the arrangements? Nature. It isn‟t that the human beings will have to build palaces. It isn‟t that factories will have to be set up there. It isn‟t that food will have to be cooked there. Who provides all the means? Nature provides all the means. She is an elevated controller. But she also becomes tamopradhaan. And the Supreme Soul Father makes her satopradhaan too. When she becomes satopradhaan, then the world becomes the Golden Age, it becomes heaven, and when she becomes tamopradhaan, the world becomes hell, a miserable hell (raurav narak) in which the worms keep wriggling. They keep biting each other. So, on whom does the degradation and uplift of the world depend? On nature (prakriti). Nature should not be polluted. She is your mother. The foreigners are unable to realize this, so they accept God the Father, but they don‟t accept God the Mother. So, that Gita has been sung by God. Who has sung it? God has sung it. Why? Why haven‟t the others praised it as much as God? It is because God is the Creator. God is the Creator of the new house like world. God knows who has laid the first foundation in this house. The world sees the towers (kanguure), which are visible above swaying in the topmost portion of the house. But do the towers hold more value or does the foundation hold more value? If the foundation shakes, then all the towers will shake. The observers‟ eyes see the towers. And what do the eyes of the Supreme Soul see? They see the foundation. The foundation has decayed. Does it decay completely? The foundation of the Ancient Deity Religion doesn‟t decay completely. It survives to some extent. It almost disappears. The Supreme Soul Father comes and makes it stable (sthiriyam). He sets the foundation. So, the Father knows its value. The children don‟t know its value to that extent. So, the Gita has been sung by God. If she is proved [to be true], then all her children (the other scriptures) will be proved false. What has been said? If who is proved [true]? If you prove [who] God of the Gita is, who the one Husband God of the Gita is, then what will happen? All the other children will be proved to be false. It means that the Bible of Christ, the Quran of the Muslims, the Dhammapad of the Buddhists, all these will be proved to be false. First of all, you should take the name of the Sacchi Gita Saar (essence of the true Gita). What is the first foundation? Which is the first scripture? Sacchi Gita Saar. They are the words of God Shiva (Shiv Bhagwaanuvaac). Uvaac means to speak. Who spoke [the Gita]? God Shiva."
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Re: We receive our inheritance through Jagadamba

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So, is mother Gita a non-living thing? When she is a mother, certainly she might have existed in a living form...
1) Immature reply. Nature is also called as mother. Because it serves us. One who/that serves is LIKE a mother.

Similarly, Gita scripture may be looking like a DEAD one, to those who like to see it just like paper. But, those who can see knowledge in it, for them, it is living only. Because knowledge is like all time living. Physically alive people may die. But, knowledge has no death (except if we forget it, or are DEAD to it).

2) BTW- When is PBK Jagadamba Kamala Devi going to give inheritance? - in the present body or in the next birth/body?
[In AIVV, it is said that their Jagadamba will leave her present body due to she having the sanskaars of Bhakti].

3) Baba has said Gita as mother and Father of all scriptures- Not just Mother. How do PBKs believe PBK Jagadamba Kamala Devi is also Father?
People thought that she is non-living. ...
But that is a non-living Gita, which is made of paper.
4) No one thinks so. It is only the LLU of PBKs what makes them think that people consider it be so.
Because PBK statements imply- "Knowledge is made from paper".- :sad:

5) Baba has also said- "Gita is mother of all scriptures". If PBKs believe scriptures are papers, in their view- "Is their Jagadamba mother of all papers?" - :sad:
In comparison to the Father, the mother is inert. The Father is intellectual and the mother is emotional. The mother is the heart and not the brain. Why? It is because the mother is meant only to follow the Father. She shouldn't use her mind. What should she do? She should become the follower of the Father. So, the Father and the mother. The Father is Gita's husband, [meaning] God, and the mother is His follower. She dances to his tunes. So, she is the gem of the crown (shiromani) among all the scriptures. There are many scriptures of the other religions as well.
6) PBKs believe Jagadamba should not use her mind, she should just follow her husband. - like in Kaliyugi world.
Anyhow, has PBK Jagadamba followed her husband? In 1942 when her husband Dixit/Sevakram left Yagya, she did not.
In 1998, she left her husband again.
PBKs believe she will once again leave her body.
PBKs believe in Golden Age, she will not be following/(couple of) the husband/Dixit.

7) WE can see the juggling exercises of Mr. Dixit. Mr Dixit likes to justify the failure as right. So- he justifies failure of PBK KD's failure as right one, and claims she should be inert!- the foolish PBKs nod heir head and believe- yes, our mother should be like this!

So- PBKs are just simply claiming something in illusion, like a person who is an ignorant fool is dreaming. But, let them do so. It is their part in drama.
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Re: We receive our inheritance through Jagadamba

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The living and nonliving here is meant in the context that it is said that whatever happens in Madhuban this atmosphere reaches the whole world. In the same way it is said that the change of Delhi means change of the whole of India and the whole of the world. In Madhuban there is a gathering of Brahmins and whatever is their mindset and vibration, this affects the world. Among the brahmins there are various souls. Some souls are like seeds and they give birth to many other souls that is they influence them. When the supreme Father comes he also takes the task to reform the seed of the tree and through that the whole tree is reformed. In the same way there is a soul who is like a mother to the world and whatever happens to her affects the whole world and the children. Because souls also come in matter and their mind affects matter, so whatever happens in the mind is then transmitted to the outside world. If there will be shaking of the foundation of faith in the mind this will result in shaking of the earth that is like foundation for men.


= RESPONSE =
Extract from AIVV cass-256 wrote: Who performs all the tasks of the new world that the Supreme Soul Father establishes? Who makes all the arrangements? Nature. It isn’t that the human beings will have to build palaces.
COMPLETE & ABSOLUTE IGNORANCE of MAHA-MURKH Virendra Dev Dixit & the EQUALLY MAHA-MURKH BLIND PBKs is CLEARLY PROVED by the above IGNORANT declaration of MAHA-MURKH Virendra Dev Dixit, and by the INABILITY of the MAHA-MURKH BLIND PBKs to PROPERLY COMPREHEND the Pure Versions of God, BELOW, OWING to their ADULTERATED, CORRUPTED & INVERTED STONE intellects:

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परमपिता परमात्मा के सिवाए कोई भी स्वर्ग का मालिक बना नहीं सकता। बरोबर स्वर्ग था। यहाँ भी देखो साइन्स से क्या-क्या बनता रहता है। एरोप्लेन, मोटरें, महल आदि कैसे बन जाते हैं। वहाँ भी साइंस सारी काम में आती है।
ऐसे नहीं जमीन से कोई बैकुण्ठ निकल आयेगा।
“No one EXCEPT the Supreme Father Supreme Soul can make You into the Masters of Heaven. There definitely was Heaven. Just look at what is being created through Science, EVEN here! Look how airplanes, automobiles, palaces, etc., are being built! Science will be COMPLETELY useful there ALSO. It is not that Paradise will emerge from beneath the earth.”
[ Revised SM 03.04.2017 ]

The HIGHEST Scientific Technology, being DEVELOPED and PRACTICALLY USED, at the VERY END of the Confluence Age, will ALSO be COMPLETELY useful, to build FOOLPROOF airplanes and palaces in the Golden Age.

The BLIND Unrighteous children are TOTALLY in the DARK regarding this aspect of the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, AFTER having EXPOSED their intellects to the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, which pertains to the beginning of Copper Age, where NO SUCH Scientific Technology would be available!

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इस समय एक है भक्ति का पाम्प, दूसरा है माया का पाम्प। साइंस से देखो क्या-क्या बना दिया है। मनुष्य समझते हैं हम स्वर्ग में बैठे हैं। बाप कहते हैं, यह साइंस का पाम्प है। यह सब गये कि गये। यह इतने सब बड़े-बड़े मकान आदि सब गिरेंगे, फिर यह साइंस सतयुग में तुमको सुख के काम में आयेगी। इस साइन्स से ही विनाश होगा। फिर इसी से ही बहुत सुख भोगेंगे। यह खेल है।
“At this time, one is the pomp of Devotion, and the other is the pomp of Maya. Look what they have made through Science! People think that they are sitting in Heaven. The Father says: All of this is the pomp of Science. All of this is now about to be destroyed. All of those huge buildings, etc., will fall. Then THIS Science will be useful to You in the Golden Age for HAPPINESS. DESTRUCTION will take place through this SAME Science. Then You will experience a lot of HAPPINESS through the SAME (Science). This is a Play.” [ Revised SM 28.03.2017 ]

The VERY SAME Science which is used for the process of DESTRUCTION or TRANSFORMATION, at the VERY END of the Confluence Age, is used for giving ABUNDANT HAPPINESS in the New World of Golden Age.

Hence the question of roaming around, fully NAKED, in the New World, as per the FALLACIOUS understanding of the BLIND Unrighteous children, (who have been TREACHEROUSLY INDOCTRINATED by their bodily guru, who is the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan), DOES NOT ARISE!
However, the same would apply to the period of time, during Ravan’s ‘Paradise’, commencing from the very beginning of C A!

http://bk-pbk.info/viewtopic.php?f=40&t ... 225#p52261
बाकी यह जो साइंस का हुनर है, वह कायम रहेगा। ...
यह साइंस भी एक विद्या है, उनसे एरोप्लेन, बिजली आदि सब कुछ बने हैं। ...
दुनिया तो चलती रहती है। भारत है अविनाशी खण्ड, प्रलय तो होती नहीं। यह साइंस जिससे अभी इतना सुख मिलता है, वह हुनर भी वहाँ रहता है। सीखी हुई चीजें दूसरे जन्म में भी काम आती हैं। कुछ न कुछ रहता है। ...
वहाँ, नई दुनिया में, विमान आदि बनाने वाले भी होंगे। सृष्टि तो चलती ही रहती है। यह बनाने वाले फिर भी आयेंगे। अन्त मती सो गति होगी। भल उन्हों में यह ज्ञान नहीं है, परन्तु वह आयेंगे जरूर, और आकर नई-नई चीजें बनायेंगे।
“The skills of Science will remain. ...
This Science is also knowledge, through which aeroplanes and electricity have all been invented. ...
The world will continue. Bharat is the imperishable Land. There is no annihilation. The skills of Science through which You receive so much happiness ALSO EXIST THERE. Things that you have learnt are useful even in your next birth. Some things will still remain. ...
There, in the New World, there will be those who build aeroplanes, etc. The World will continue, and those who manufacture those things will also come again; their final thoughts will lead them to their destination. Though they do not have THIS Knowledge, they will definitely come and invent new things.” [ Revised SM 08.12.2016 ]

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विलायत में बत्तियां ऐसी हैं, जो रोशनी होती है, बत्तियां नहीं दिखाई पड़ती हैं। वहाँ भी ऐसे रोशनी होती है। विमान आदि तो वहाँ भी होते हैं। साइंस घमण्डी भी यहाँ आयेंगे। फिर वहाँ भी यह एरोप्लेन आदि सब बनेंगे। ...
सतयुग में जमुना का कण्ठा होगा। वहाँ सब मीठे पानी के ऊपर महल होंगे।
“Abroad, lights are placed in such a way, that there is lighting, but the lamps cannot be seen. There too, there will be such lighting (in Golden Age). There will be ‘vimanas’ there too. Those with the pride of Science will also come here. Then, aeroplanes, etc. will all be built there too. ...
In the Golden Age there will be the banks of the River Jamuna, and PALACES will be by the banks of the rivers of fresh water.” [ Revised SM 02.12.2016 ]

The Deities of G A live inside PALACES and travel in ‘vimanas’ or aeroplanes, operating on nuclear energy.
These facts are REFUTED by the Godly Form of Ravan or Maya, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, implying that they are symbolic, since NO SUCH facilities exist in Ravan’s ‘Paradise’, also comprising of
‘g a’ and ‘s a’, commencing from the beginning of C A, and which come into existence only towards the end of I A, when scientific technology develops gradually again.

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एक मास में भी मकान बना सकते हैं। कारीगर, सामान आदि सब तैयार हो, फिर बनने में देरी थोड़ेही लगेगी। विलायत में मकान कैसे बनते हैं - मिनट मोटर। तो स्वर्ग में कितना जल्दी बनते होंगे। सोना, चाँदी बहुत तुम्हारे को मिल जाते हैं। खानियों से सोना, चाँदी, हीरे आदि ले आते हैं। हुनर तो सब सीख रहे हैं। साइंस का कितना घमण्ड है। यही साइंस फिर वहाँ भी काम आयेगी। यहाँ सीखने वाले वहाँ दूसरा जन्म ले काम में आयेंगे। उस समय तो सारी नई दुनिया हो जाती है, रावण राज्य ही खत्म हो जाता है। 5 तत्व भी कायदेमुजीब सर्विस में रहते हैं। स्वर्ग बन जाता है।
“A mansion can be built even in one month. If the workers and material are all ready, it does not take long to build. Look how they build buildings abroad: like ‘a motor a minute’. So, they would be built very quickly in Heaven. You get a lot of gold and silver. They bring gold, silver and diamonds, etc., from the mines. They are learning all of those skills now. There is so much pride in Science. This SAME Science will then ALSO be useful there. Those who learn here, will then bring same into use, when they take the next birth there. At that time, the whole World becomes New, and the kingdom of Ravan finishes. Even the five elements remain engaged in principled service, and Heaven gets established.” [ Revised SM 11.11.2016 ]

This Version is REFUTED by the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, considering same to be symbolic, since NO SUCH technology exists in Ravan’s ‘Paradise’ - also consisting of ‘g a’ and ‘s a’, in the beginning of C A - to which TIME PERIOD, the CORRUPTED & ADULTERATED, REVERSED advanced knowledge ACTUALLY applies!

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साइंस सुख के लिए भी है तो दु:ख के लिए भी है। वहाँ एरोप्लेन कभी गिरेंगे नहीं। दु:ख की बात नहीं। यहाँ तो दु:ख ही दु:ख है। चोर लूट जाते, आग जला देती। वहाँ मकान बहुत बड़े होते। सारे आबू जितनी जमीन एक-एक राजा की होगी।
“Here, science causes sorrow, as well as happiness. There, AEROPLANES will NEVER crash. There will not be anything to do with sorrow there. Here, there is nothing but sorrow. Thieves come and LOOT everything; FIRE burns everything. There, they have very grand MANSIONS. Each King would have as much land as the whole of Abu.” [ Revised SM 20.10.2016 ]

“Here (in Ravan Rajya), science causes sorrow, as well as happiness. There (in RamRajya), AEROPLANES (operating on nuclear energy) will NEVER crash (even a small child can operate same, just like a child can operate a LIFT in any building, today). There will not be anything to do with sorrow there (there are NO ACCIDENTS there). Here, there is nothing but sorrow. Thieves come and LOOT everything (even the ‘MAHA-MURKH’, ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan ‘LOOTS’ the SMsIMPERISHABLE JEWELS of Knowledgefrom ShivBaba’s Centers and Head-Quarters UNLAWFULLY & CRIMINALLY); FIRE burns everything (and CONVERTS them into the ‘FIERCE FIRE’ of CORRUPTED & ADULTERATED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, to ‘BURN’ the minds & intellects of as many UNWARY children of God, as is allowed within this EWD). There (in RamRajya), they have very grand MANSIONS (and palaces, ADORNED with diamonds, pearls & jewels). Each King would have as much land as the whole of Abu.”

In the above Version, God HIMSELF CLEARLY SPECIFIES the mode of travel and the type of residences in RamRajya.

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हमने जैसे कल्प पहले महल आदि बनाये थे, वही रिपीट करेंगे - उसको कहा ही जाता है सतयुग। ...
मकान कैसे बनायेंगे, कैसे रहेंगे, वह सब नूँध है।
“We will repeat the building of the palaces, as we built them in the previous Cycle. That is called the Golden Age. ...
How You will build the MANSIONS, and how You will live there, is all fixed.” [ Revised SM 14.10.2016 ]

Righteous Children carry their ‘sanskars’ of Science from Confluence Age, to the Golden Age, to build palaces and mansions made out of gold and precious stones, which are brought to the surface of the earth by turbulence, which takes place during the period of final transformation of the elements!

Unrighteous children are delusively made to believe that the palaces and mansions mentioned in this Version are symbolic, since their CORRUPTED & ADULTERATED, REVERSED advanced knowledge pertains to a DIFFERENT TIME PERIOD of the Cycle – being the Confluence between S A and C A!

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रामराज्य किसको कहा जाता है, यह भी किसको पता नहीं, और समझते भी नहीं हैं। बाप कहते हैं मैं स्वर्ग अथवा रामराज्य की स्थापना करने आया हूँ। ...
रावण राज्य में भी भभका देखो कितना है। यह है पिछाड़ी का भभका। रामराज्य सतयुग में होगा - वहाँ यह विमान, आदि सब थे, फिर यह सब गुम हो गये। फिर इस समय यह सब निकले हैं। अभी यह सब सीख रहे हैं। जो सीखने वाले हैं वह संस्कार ले जायेंगे। फिर आकर वहाँ विमान बनायेंगे। यह तुमको भविष्य में सुख देने वाले हैं। यह विमान, आदि भारतवासी भी बना सकते हैं। कोई नई बात नहीं। अक्लमंद तो हैं ना? यह सांइस तुमको फिर काम आयेगी। अभी यह सांइस दु:ख के लिए है, फिर वहाँ सुख के लिए होगी। ...
यह बातें किसकी समझ में जल्दी नहीं आयेंगी। जब तकदीर में हो तब कुछ समझें
“No one knows or understands what the Kingdom of Rama is. The Father says: I have come to establish Heaven, or the Kingdom of Rama. ...
Look how much splendour there is in the kingdom of Ravan! This is the splendour of the END period. There will be the Kingdom of Rama in the Golden Age. All these ‘vimans’, etc., EXISTED there, and then they all disappeared. All of these have now EMERGED again. They are now learning everything. Those who are learning these things will carry those 'sanskars' with them and they will then go and build those ‘vimans’ there. They will give you happiness in the future. Even the people of Bharat can build these ‘vimans’, etc., it is nothing new. They are clever, is it not? THIS Science will be useful to you LATER ON. THIS Science is now causing sorrow, whereas it will give you happiness THERE. ...
These aspects CANNOT be understood by ANYONE very quickly. IF it is in their fortune, THEN they will understand SOMETHING.” [ Revised SM 03.10.2016 ]

“NO ONE (in the outer Worldthe ‘shooting’ of which is carried out by the BLIND, Unrighteous children, in Confluence Age) knows or understands what the Kingdom of Rama is (the Unrighteous children DELUSIVELY CONFOUND their inheritance of sovereignty in Ravan Rajya, to be the inheritance of Sovereignty in RamRajya, meant for the Righteous Children). The Father (REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God) says: I have come to establish Heaven, or the Kingdom of Rama. (Whereas, Ravan or Maya establishes Hell, or the kingdom or Ravan, in Confluence Age, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan & the Unrighteous children) ...
Look how much splendour (of DISTORTED & PERVERTED pictures & memorials of ‘Tamopradhan Bhakti’ or DEGRADED DEVOTIONthe ‘shooting’ of which takes place, in Confluence Age, through the CORRUPTED & ADULTERATED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, propagated through the ‘mukarar-rath’ of Ravan & the Unrighteous children) there is in the kingdom of Ravan! This is the splendour of the END period (of Ravan Rajyathe ‘shooting’ of which takes place, more specifically, towards the end of Confluence Age). There will be the Kingdom of Rama in the Golden Age (established by REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God through the Pure, Unadulterated Knowledge, conveyed through REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR). All these ‘vimans’, (airplanes operating on nuclear energy) etc., EXISTED there (in G A & S A), and then they all disappeared (at the very end of S A, and the very beginning of C A). All of these have now emerged again (at the very end of I A). They are now learning everything. Those (Brahmin Children) who are learning these things will carry those sanskars with them, and they will then go and build those ‘vimans’ there (they are ACTUAL airplanes operating on nuclear energy - and NOT merely an imagination, or having any form of symbolism only, as TREACHEROUSLY alleged by Ravan or Maya, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan). They will give You (Righteous Children) happiness in the future (in RamRajya). Even the people of Bharat can build these ‘vimans’, etc., it is nothing new. They are clever, is it not? This Science will be useful to you LATER ON (in RamRajya). This Science is now causing sorrow, whereas it will give you happiness THERE (in RamRajya). ...
These aspects CANNOT be understood by ANYONE very quickly (particularly by the Unrighteous children, whose intellects have been CORRUPTED & INVERTED by Ravan or Maya, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, through exposure to the CORRUPTED & ADULTERATED, REVERSED advanced knowledge). IF it is in their fortune, THEN they will understand SOMETHING (towards the very end of Confluence Age).”

‘Vimans’, or airplanes operating on nuclear energy, are used by the deities in RamRajya, JUST AS several automobiles are used by AFFLUENT families, in AFFLUENT nations of the World these days. This aspect is REFUTED by the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, by considering same to be symbolic, owing to the 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan being instrumental to establish Ravan’s ‘Paradise’ of ‘g a’ and ‘s a’, commencing from the beginning of C A, where such ‘vimans’ are no longer available for such usage, as were FREELY available to the deities of RamRajya!

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रामराज्य तो सतयुग में था। वहाँ यह विमान आदि सब थे फिर यह सब गुम हो गये। फिर इस समय यह सब निकले हैं। अभी यह सब सीख रहे हैं, जो सीखने वाले हैं वह संस्कार ले जायेंगे। वहाँ आकर फिर बनायेंगे। यह भविष्य में तुमको सुख देने वाली चीजें हैं। यह साइंस फिर तुमको काम आयेगी। अभी यह साइंस दु:ख के लिए है फिर वहाँ सुख के लिए होगी। अभी स्थापना हो रही है।
“The 'Kingdom of Ram' or 'RamRajya' existed in the Golden Age. There were all the ‘vimans’ or airplanes, etc., there. Then, they all disappeared. All of those things have now emerged at this time. They are now learning all of those skills and they will then carry those ‘sanskars’ with them; they will go and build them there. These things will give you happiness in the future. This science will be useful to you then. At the present time, this science is for sorrow, but it will be for happiness there. Establishment is NOW taking place.” [ Revised SM 20.02.2016 ]

The Kingdom of Ram, or 'RamRajya' (established BY Supreme Father Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, REAL Ram or God, THROUGH REAL Prajapita Brahma, REAL Adi Dev, REAL Adam, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR) existed in the REAL Golden Age. There were all the ‘vimans’ or airplanes (supreme aeroplanes, with supreme speed), etc., there. Then, they all disappeared (were destroyed at the end of S A). All of those things have now emerged at this time (are being developed at the very end of I A). They (specific Brahmin souls) are now learning all of those skills, and they will then carry those ‘sanskars’ (expertise & skill of building and maintaining such supreme airplanes) with them; they will go and build them there. These things will give you happiness in the future. This (physical) science will be useful to you then. At the present time, this science is for sorrow (for physical 'destruction' of this impure world), but it will be for happiness there (NUCLEAR energy will be used in the NEW CLEAR age for entertainment only). Establishment is NOW taking place (BEING DEVELOPED here, at the very end of I A or the very end of Confluence Age - to be used there).

Likewise, it has also been CLEARLY indicated in the SMs that the turbulence of the earth will bring the submerged element of gold to the surface, and will be available abundantly to build palaces of gold - studded with diamonds, pearls and exotic stones, which would also be available in abundance.

SIMILARLY, EVERYTHING ELSE which EMERGES from the BOGUS MOUTH of the MAHA-MURKH 'mukarar-rath' of Ravan or Maya, is NOTHING but Spiritual GARBAGE, which REPRESENTS the CLEAR 'shooting' of Ravan Rajya!
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Re: We receive our inheritance through Jagadamba

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As usual, no sensible replies from Sita soul. Let that soul play its role.
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Please, let there be no such long posts, as no one has time to read them.


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No one is obliged to read what they do not wish to read. They have the full freedom to completely ignore same.
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I have read some of the post and it becomes visible that the poster is probably unaware that we understand the matters in the Murli in an unlimited way and in that science is the science of Yoga. The physical science will be instrumental to destroy the physical world, through physical flames of destruction, but through the science of Yoga, through the fire of Yoga there will be subtle destruction first. The explanations in the Murli are about the Confluence Age and the heaven in the highest Confluence Age. The vimans are the flying vimans of the mind that will fly in a high stage. The golden palaces are such gatherings of golden like, truthful souls, to which the souls are like the bricks that construct that palace. It is childish to think that there will be physical golden palaces. It is just not practical and there is no need for that pomp and show. It is the nature that will prepare everything for people. Everything will be natural. There will be no need for houses to hide our body consciousness or due to bad climate and there will be such birds that we will fly on their wings.


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The Pure UNADULTERATED Versions of God, are meant EXCLUSIVELY for souls with a Divine intellect, who are able to comprehend same in the proper perspective, in accordance with the TRUE INTENT of God, so that they may CLEARLY Re-Cognize the EVIDENT role of the 'MAHA-MURKH' 'mukrar-rath' of the Godly Form or 'Ishwariya Rup' of Ravan or Maya, MASQUERADING as 'ShivBaba', 'Paramatma', 'Rama', 'Prajapita', 'Shankar', etc., and ALSO as the 'mukrar-rath' of God, in Confluence Age, and making THOROUGH IDIOTS out of the BLIND Unrighteous children, who are TOTALLY UNAWARE of the EXACT situation, owing to their ADULTERATED, CORRUPTED & INVERTED STONE intellects.

Same are DEFINITELY NOT meant for the MAHA-MURKH BLIND Unrighteous children, THEMSELVES, who have been thoroughly indoctrinated by their EQUALLY MAHA-MURKH BLIND Unrighteous bodily guru, and COMPLETELY SATURATED with the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, and therefore they have the FULL FREEDOM to COMPLETELY IGNORE same, and continue with their ARROGANT IGNORANCE - PERFECTLY, AS PER DRAMA PLAN, NOTHING NEW!
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So you claim that God also is partial and he comes to uplift only the souls with divine intellects. No one has divine intellect. All have devilish intellects and God does not have hatred with the unrighteous, impure, corrupted children, because he knows what he will find. He comes especially for them, to uplift them, otherwise who will uplift them. That is why the knowledge is not difficult to understand; the difficulty comes in the effort, where everyone performs as per his own capacity.

I don't think that the true intent of God could be to inspire pride in some souls that you are righteous, so that they develop arrogance and hatred towards the unrighteous ones. For him, all are unrighteous, and if someone thinks otherwise, he is wrong. Please, advice if you think that this is right.


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As usual, the BLIND PBKs, who have INADVERTENTLY LOCKED their INVERTED intellects, with the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED knowledge, while DELUSIVELY believing same to be the ‘unlimited clarifications’ originating from God, can NEITHER discriminate, NOR judge, what God ACTUALLY means in the relevant SMs & AVs, which they profusely & blatantly MISINTERPRET, MISREPRESENT & MISAPPROPRIATE. The same goes for the ‘Unadulterated Unlimited Clarifications’ being provided herein by the Righteous Children.
Obviously ALL souls would have Devilish intellects, at the very end of Iron Age. Further, even AFTER the CONCERNED souls develop Divine intellects, in Confluence Age, through the UNADULTERATED Knowledge, they would STILL begin to develop Devilish intellects, ONCE AGAIN, from the beginning of Silver Age, ONWARDS! Even a small child would have understood this elementary aspect of Knowledge, by now. But the BLIND PBKs, with CORRUPTED & INVERTED intellects do not seem to even understand this much!

God is NOT partial; and God NEED NOT/DOES NOT come to uplift souls with Divine intellects, simply because they are ALREADY Divine, in Golden Age, when they would NOT REQUIRE such uplift. God comes at the very end of Iron Age, when ALL souls have Devilish intellects. If God had even the slightest hatred for the unrighteous, impure, corrupted children, with Devilish intellects, then obviously He would NOT come to uplift them! He comes to uplift them because He has the GREATEST LOVE & COMPASSION for them. Therefore, God DEFINITELY comes ONLY to uplift ALL souls, with ONLY Devilish intellects. However, EVEN AFTER He comes to perform this task, there are STILL some BLIND Unrighteous children, like the PBKs, who choose to OPPOSE, DEFAME, INSULT & MOCK God, by ADULTERATING & CORRUPTING His Pure Versions, under the instigation of their bodily guru, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Prajapita’, etc., and ALSO MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God! Such ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED knowledge, is MOST DEFINITELY NOT DIFFICULT to understand, for the BLIND Unrighteous children, owing to their ADULTERATED, CORRUPTED & INVERTED intellects. But they are SIMPLY UNABLE to COMPREHEND the Pure UNADULTERATED Versions of God, in the CORRECT PERSPECTIVE, owing to their INVERTED intellects - and what's WORSE is that, they are TOTALLY UNAWARE of their EXACT SORRY situation, in which they are ACTUALLY VICIOUSLY TRAPPED in! The BLIND Unrighteous children can ONLY make the type of effort, in accordance with the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED knowledge, to which they have voluntarily EXPOSED their intellects, which THEN leads them into PERDITION, EVEN FURTHER - while they are simultaneously, TREACHEROUSLY TRICKED into DELUSIVELY believing that they are on the Path towards SALVATION! AS LONG AS, their intellects remain LOCKED in the INVERTED mode, they can NEVER HOPE to APPRECIATE the Pure UNADULTERATED Versions of God, in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE, to be able to make their intellects Divine, from being Devilish, through the UNADULTERATED Knowledge. They would then have to depend on the harsh EXTERNAL processes, ordained within the structure of Drama, for their final purification.

It is MOST DEFINITELY NOT the intent of God to inspire pride in some souls, that they are Righteous, so that they develop arrogance and hatred towards the Unrighteous ones. In fact, the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who have TRUE Love for God, AS WELL AS, His Creation, would have developed the GREATEST POSSIBLE COMPASSION for the Unrighteous ones, which is why they are INTENSELY involved in constantly providing the ‘Unadulterated Unlimited Clarifications’ for the benefit of such BLIND Unrighteous children, with BEST WISHES, that they would ULTIMATELY AWAKEN and REAL-EYEs the ACTUAL TRUTH, BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE for them!

आसुरी सप्रदाय को ही दैवी सप्रदाय बनाने का धन्धा करना है।
“Do the business of making the devilish community into the deity community.”
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Re: We receive our inheritance through Jagadamba

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The role of God is to take defamation. Why are you so concerned?


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God is most definitely NOT CONCERNED about the DoGs (Defamers of God) of the DoGly university.
He watches them as a DETACHED OBSERVER, being fully aware of their final destination!
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sita wrote: 30 Apr 2017
The living and nonliving here is meant in the context that it is said that whatever happens in Madhuban this atmosphere reaches the whole world. ...
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If there will be shaking of the foundation of faith in the mind this will result in shaking of the earth that is like foundation for men.

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COMPLETE & ABSOLUTE IGNORANCE of MAHA-MURKH Virendra Dev Dixit & the EQUALLY MAHA-MURKH BLIND PBKs is CLEARLY PROVED by the above IGNORANT declaration of MAHA-MURKH Virendra Dev Dixit, and by the INABILITY of the MAHA-MURKH BLIND PBKs to PROPERLY COMPREHEND the Pure Versions of God, BELOW, OWING to their ADULTERATED, CORRUPTED & INVERTED STONE intellects:

viewtopic.php?p=52765&sid=824e266a83ab2 ... f04#p52765

परमपिता परमात्मा के सिवाए कोई भी स्वर्ग का मालिक बना नहीं सकता। बरोबर स्वर्ग था। यहाँ भी देखो साइन्स से क्या-क्या बनता रहता है। एरोप्लेन, मोटरें, महल आदि कैसे बन जाते हैं। वहाँ भी साइंस सारी काम में आती है।
ऐसे नहीं जमीन से कोई बैकुण्ठ निकल आयेगा।
“No one EXCEPT the Supreme Father Supreme Soul can make You into the Masters of Heaven. There definitely was Heaven. Just look at what is being created through Science, EVEN here! Look how airplanes, automobiles, palaces, etc., are being built! Science will be COMPLETELY useful there ALSO. It is not that Paradise will emerge from beneath the earth.”
[ Revised SM 03.04.2017 ]

The HIGHEST Scientific Technology, being DEVELOPED and PRACTICALLY USED, at the VERY END of the Confluence Age, will ALSO be COMPLETELY useful, to build FOOLPROOF airplanes and palaces in the Golden Age.

There is no mention of science in Shiv Baba's teaching, you sound to me talking about some other teaching so far.

Om Shanti,
You are claiming there will be science in heaven, which means we must use brains, go to school and work in a factory. Maybe with AI we do not need to work in the factory. However, can you give the Murli where it says science will be used in heaven?
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jaycdp wrote: 11 Dec 2022 There is no mention of science in Shiv Baba's teaching, you sound to me talking about some other teaching so far.

Om Shanti,
You are claiming there will be science in heaven, which means we must use brains, go to school and work in a factory. Maybe with AI we do not need to work in the factory. However, can you give the Murli where it says science will be used in heaven?

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Dear admin,

Let me be honest with you, I was having lots of difficulties quoting.

Regarding spelling mistakes in the earlier posts - yes, I did not pay any attention to that area. However, I am using Grammarly to correct as much as grammar in English. Although English is not my first language I am paying good attention to write in an academic fashion. If I could watch a video that shows how to quote and edit properly then it would be useful. Otherwise, you should provide me couple of more chances to learn the editing area of your website.

Thanks again for all the inputs, let me read same carefully and see how I can apply that and improve my English writing in this website, academically. Also, I am noticing you do have very good editing system, and now I am realizing I must remove Grammarly since it looks like it is interfering and making problems too!

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jaycdp wrote: 11 Dec 2022
Dear admin,
Let me be honest with you, I was having lots of difficulties quoting.
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4. After this you can make your required comments, after leaving two lines below the last END "quote" line (which will then appear below the SEPARATE block when you finally ‘Submit’ your post.) This would then be the actual post which you require to make.

5. The topic designation of the original post which you desire to quote will appear in the Subject: window - on top of the original post which you desire to quote. Just copy this topic name from THAT Subject: window, and paste it right on top of your new post, ABOVE the first OPEN "quote" line which contains the link, so as to identify the topic of the post which you wish to quote. This will appear above the quote block of the original post, when you finally ‘Submit’ your post.

6. Simply copy this from your laptop, after checking for correct usage and grammar of the English language on your laptop itself, and paste same in a COMPLETELY blank window of your new post, which you desire to make – but this should NOT be made out in the original topic of the original sub-forum – but this should be made out in the single topic of your own, viz., = Personal Views of ex-BK 'jaycdp' = created exclusively for you in the sub-forum, = Factual Yagya History: BK and PBK versions = The topic designation of your current post will appear automatically in the Subject: window - on top of your current post, viz., = Personal Views of ex-BK 'jaycdp' =

7. After pasting above in the edit window, you may carry out further editing in the edit window itself. The topic designation of the original post may be made B (Bold); and Large (which can be selected by clicking on the arrow pointing downward in the 'Normal' window on top). Please note that for any of the top commands to take effect, you have to FIRST SELECT the word, or words, or part of a sentence, or the whole sentence, or the paragraph, which you need to apply the command to - whether B (Bold), I (Italic), U (Underline), Colour, Size, etc.

8. You can also check for any errors of the English language in the edit window on the forum itself. You can also 'Preview' your current post to ensure everything is in order before finally clicking on 'Submit'.
And finally click on ‘Submit’. That’s it!


Please note that one does not have to be a registered member of this forum, only to keep reading the posts in any topic, in any sub-forum. Anyone who is not a member can keep reading the posts anytime. One has to be a registered member only if one wishes to post and express own views, and avail of other facilities which can be accessed only by registered members.

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Dear jaycdp,

Please review the additional guidelines indicated in the post above, which has been subsequently revised to be more comprehensive. If you need any further clarifications you are at liberty to seek same at any time.

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Dear jaycdp,

It has been observed from your latest post dated 02 Jan 23 regarding "Krishna's birth in 2018 by Advance knowledge (Virendra Dev Dixit)" that you have still not grasped the correct process of quoting from a particular post of any topic within any sub-forum (review points 1 to 4 in above post), as well as highlighting any particular word, part of sentence, or whole sentence (review point 7 in above post).

Please review the additional guidelines indicated in the post above, ONCE AGAIN, (which had been subsequently revised to be more comprehensive), and ensure that your posts are correctly configured. If you need any further clarifications you are at liberty to seek same at any time.

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