shivshankar wrote:It is not off topic, it is one of key points of all Knowledge, which is misunderstood or ignored by many BKs, and even Didis. And at the same time, complete understanding of this point leads one to receive jivanmukti.
The underlined words themselves imply that your claim is
'flaws within BKs', and NOT
not flaws in their philosophy/knowledge*.
The Kingdom is being established, not just Kings, so there will be defects in children. So- your query of asking- why someone is doing something- does not fit as per topic of the title (which says- flaws in Knowledge).
----And we all know that just 8/108 are going to pass (that is what philosophy says), so then, the claims on even mistakes of them lose further value.
So- a kind suggestion is- you may try to think on these two aspects - in DIFFERENT WAYS- INSTEAD OF MIXING THEM TOGETHER, for better understanding.
Or- are you going to say- the BK/PBK knowledge itself is wrong - and your knowledge is something more advanced than the so-called advanced knowledge? So- better make your points clear.
A similar topic title is also put here- viewtopic.php?f=39&t=2099 .
You may see how the TS (Topic Starter) in that topic has proved that basic belief and claims - even physical aspects or intellectual ones- from the very foundation to the end - are WRONG!
The difference is- PBKs not only misinterpret/misunderstand the Murli points, but also
---claim something which is not in Murlis,
---and go against several other Murli points, WITHOUT EVEN REAL-EYEsing same,
---also do not hesitate to call the Murlis as False Gita.
That is the reason why the topic title fits there properly.
But-
in THIS topic, it does not fit properly (
definitely the one for which the comment is put for point no. 3) - what is asked in the first post.
Now- to the point of discussion- The basic of/for anything is
purity, love and power, and
the knowledge is the only temporary foundation.
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In the whole Kalpa, Knowledge exists just in Conf Age, but Paramdham, God, soul, heaven, etc exist for more time.
---Those who are caught in ego of Knowledge, instead of seeing the fruit of the Knowledge (goal), they just see only the boat (tree).
---Since their eye-sight is not enough to grasp the subtle things, their intellect is caught in (troubled/confused by) physical things. Instead of seeing and experiencing the peace of Paramdham, they like to see it just as a physical abode.
So- their intellect can 'see' only physical aspects of even spirituality.
But- still they comment in physical things as well. Why this tradition is being done, why that is being done.
----On one hand they say- photo of Chariot should not be kept, but on the other hand, they say- God should be remembered in the Chariot only - NOT REAL-EYEsing that by doing so, they are COMMITTING the EVEN GREATER BLUNDER of keeping the DYNAMIC photo/impression of their Chariot, and CORRUPTING God with an embodied soul.
There is a saying- "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, and lower minds discuss about people".
So- if our aim is to become high, then better discuss on ideas more, than events and people.
When we discuss on pure people/things, even those people are like ideas, because their life itself is an ideal. Paramdham - the World itself is an ideal.
In sleep, we do not enjoy anything. There is no any input (either physical or thoughts) either to body or mind during sleep.
But, then why do we sleep? Is it not enough if take food and water?
Similarly, remembering Paramdham is also like that. Baba praises even Bhaktimarg people for that. But, just sleep is not enough for life. So- we have to think about- Soul, God, Paramdham and heaven - ALL.
Practice by anyway one likes. If you feel you get elevated, keep on doing. As we grow we will find better ways or become more efficient. Even in this world, it is said- great people do not do different things - they do things differently. Similarly, there are various ways for remembrance- some are more efficient/powerful than others.
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* - Just see- if you are going to say/argue-
"All the BKs are wrong including Mama and the Chariot Brahma Baba", then the topic title you have written is right.
---For example, in that topic- the TS(myself) claims the intellect of whole of the PBKs including their Chariot is wrong.
---But- if you believe Murli point really have truth in it, and BKs have not been able to understand in right perspective, then the topic title what you have written is not right.