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Re: Flaws in BK and PBK Knowledge

Posted: 29 Dec 2016
by shivshankar
cal wrote:Everything (including matter) is eternal. It is just transformed from one form to another. I don't mind wasting my time to teach you thermodynamics.
Child, your ego is too big to teach anyone. Humility is the only way to spread knowledge. Body is the FORM of matter, which will receive FORM of dust after some (not so much) time. So what is the aim of your conversation? Whom can you teach if you even don't know your original FORM? Really, you better spend time for meditation or researching your inner self, which is One with Me.

Re: Flaws in BK and PBK Knowledge

Posted: 29 Dec 2016
by cal
Instead of answering a simple question that I asked I am trying to learn now what you are made of. So far found nothing. The more you write I see you are like everybody else, not surprising. Don't assume others on the forum are hollow.

Re: Flaws in BK and PBK Knowledge

Posted: 29 Dec 2016
by shivshankar
Ayushman bavatu, cal.

Re: Flaws in BK and PBK Knowledge

Posted: 05 Jan 2017
by shivsena
Murli 2-dec 16 : "एक सत बाप के साथ संग होता है। बाकी और कोई भी सत बोलते ही नहीं हैं। यह है ही झूठ खण्ड। झूठी माया, झूठी काया... पहले-पहले झूठ ईश्वर के लिए कह देते हैं कि वह सर्वव्यापी है। अल्फ को ही झूठ बना दिया है। तो तुम्हें पहले-पहले परिचय देना है बाप का। वह तो उल्टा परिचय दे देते हैं। झूठ तो झूठ, सच की रत्ती भी नहीं। यह ज्ञान की बातें हैं।"

Murli 2-dec 16 : "You have the company of the one true Father. No one else speaks the truth. This is the land of falsehood. Maya is false, the body is false and the world is false. First of all, they lie about God, saying that He is omnipresent. They have made Alpha false. Therefore, first of all, you have to give the Father's introduction. They give a wrong introduction. There is nothing but falsehood, not a grain of truth. This is an aspect of knowledge."

Which is the first land of falsehood (jhoot-Khand) in the Confluence Age (Sangamyug) ??
Who is Alpha (Alif), and who has made Alpha false (Alif ko jhoot kisne banaya) ??

Please share your views.

Re: Flaws in BK and PBK Knowledge

Posted: 09 Jan 2017
by shivshankar
shivsena wrote:Murli 2-dec 16 : "You have the company of the one true Father. No one else speaks the truth. This is the land of falsehood. Maya is false, the body is false and the world is false. First of all, they lie about God, saying that He is omnipresent. They have made Alpha false. Therefore, first of all, you have to give the Father's introduction. They give a wrong introduction. There is nothing but falsehood, not a grain of truth. This is an aspect of knowledge."

Which is the first land of falsehood (jhoot-Khand) in the Confluence Age (Sangamyug) ??
Who is Alpha (Alif), and who has made Alpha false (Alif ko jhoot kisne banaya) ??

Please share your views.
As it was said, the lie is that God is omnipresent. It's not a lie, just a mistake. They think God is in different objects, when every object is IN God. All this creation are in One=That=Atman. This is like a dream. How dream happens? Сonsciousness shows dream (objects and situations), and at the same time sees the dream, and at the same time identifies the self with the dream. So we can say that this world is a dream of God.

As religion starts from Bharat, so Bharat is the first land of falsehood. When somebody does not have clear knowledge, then some fairy tales began to appear. This is how religion starts.

Shiva is Alpha and Omega at the same time. But these are just words, you won't understand without realization. Those who were founders of religions made simple things complicated. Unity is the most simple thing, but it has to be realized! ;-)

All these parts, or roles, are predestined in this everlasting God's Dream.

You all are That, at the moment - right here and right now! The only thing is attention or awareness, which goes in different directions according to different interests. As interest in Unity becomes one, or at least huge and focused, then realization happens automatically and naturally.

Re: Flaws in BK and PBK Knowledge

Posted: 11 Jan 2017
by shivsena
shivshankar wrote: As religion starts from Bharat, so Bharat is the first land of falsehood. When somebody does not have clear knowledge, then some fairy tales began to appear. This is how religion starts.
In the broad drama all religions start from Bharatland....which is Behad ka Bharat in Confluence Age drama ???

Re: Flaws in BK and PBK Knowledge

Posted: 11 Jan 2017
by shivshankar
There is one Drama. Bharat is the name of those lands which are present on the surface throughout the whole cycle. Whole India and some more lands above it are always present.

Nowadays all lands are lands of falsehood, as there is religion rather than knowledge.

You want to attain full picture of all Drama, but still there are a lot of questions about details and even about yourself. Realization is the only way to close them all. No mind, nor intellect will help you. Also you may consider Murlis as scriptures from that moment, their role has already passed.