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BKWSU SM, Revised 04.01.2016 wrote: लिखो - हम सब भाई-भाई हैं। हमारा बाप भी एक है, हम सब सोल्स का वह है सुप्रीम सोल, उनको फादर कहा जाता है। यह पक्का-पक्का बुद्धि में बिठाओ तो सर्वव्यापी आदि पहले निकल जाए। अल्फ पहले पढ़ना है। बोलो, यह अच्छी रीति बैठ लिखो। आगे सर्वव्यापी कहता था, अब समझता हूँ कि सर्वव्यापी नहीं है। हम सब भाई-भाई हैं, सब आत्मायें कहती हैं - गॉड फादर, परमपिता। पहले तो यह निश्चय बिठाना है कि हम आत्मा हैं, परमात्मा नहीं हैं। न हमारे में परमात्मा व्यापक है। सबमें आत्मा व्यापक है।

Write - we are all brothers. Our Father is also One, He is the Supreme Soul of all of us souls, He is called the Father. Make this sit in their intellects firmly and then the notion of omnipresence, etc., that they have can FIRST be removed. First of all, LEARN about Alpha. Tell them: Write this down CLEARLY, that, Previously, I used to say that He is omnipresent (etc.), but I now understand that He is not omnipresent (etc.) and that we are all brothers. All souls speak of God-Father, the Supreme Father. First of all, instil the faith in them that they are souls, and NOT the Supreme Soul; NEITHER is God present in us. A SOUL is present in each one.
Who are the RIGHTEOUS Children who CLEARLY UNDERSTAND and EXPERIENCE that –
1. We are all souls, and we are all brothers
2. The Father of all of us souls is ONLY ONE Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva or ShivBaba
3. Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva or ShivBaba is ACTUALLY ‘alif’ or Alpha; and NO other embodied soul CAN be called as ‘alif’ or Alpha
4. Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva or ShivBaba is NEITHER ‘sarv-vyapi’, NOR ‘do-vyapi’ or ‘teen-vyapi’, etc., i.e. He is NEITHER omnipresent, NOR does He take ANY OTHER fixed, appointed or permanent Chariot to speak to humanity OTHER THAN Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba, DLR, who is also known as Adi Dev, Adam, Ram, Krishna, Narayan, etc.
5. Any individual embodied soul CANNOT be called as Supreme Soul (but as per Drama Plan, Ravan or Maya DOES utilise the fixed, appointed or permanent Chariot of Ravan to MASQUERADE as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Adam’, ‘Ram’, ‘Confluence Age Krishna’, ‘Confluence Age Narayan’, etc., in order to propagate the CORRUPTED, ADULTERATED, DISTORTED & REVERSED advanced –knowledge to carry out the ‘shooting’ of Ravan Rajya in Confluence Age - from the very beginning generally, and from 1969 onwards, more specifically – thereby making the BLIND followers DELUSIVELY believe that the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan is the ‘Supreme Soul’ among embodied souls, thus introducing the concept of a SECOND ‘Supreme Soul’, to invoke DUALITY, within the frame-work of Drama)
6. God or REAL Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva or ShivBaba is NOT PRESENT in EITHER a corporeal vehicle or a subtle vehicle of any embodied soul ALL the time in Confluence Age. He only utilises the corporeal and subtle vehicle of ONLY a SINGLE embodied soul to carry out His Trimurti functions of BVS in Confluence Age – that of Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba, DLR, who is also known as Adi Dev, Adam, Ram, Krishna, Narayan, etc.;
and what is their final destination?

Who are the UNRIGHTEOUS children who DO NOT CLEARLY UNDERSTAND, NOR EXPERIENCE, that -
1. We are all souls, and we are all brothers
2. The Father of all of us souls is ONLY ONE Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva or ShivBaba
3. Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva or ShivBaba is ACTUALLY ‘alif’ or Alpha; and NO other embodied soul CAN be called as ‘alif’ or Alpha
4. Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva or ShivBaba is NEITHER ‘sarv-vyapi’, NOR ‘do-vyapi’ or ‘teen-vyapi’, etc., i.e. He is NEITHER omnipresent, NOR does He take ANY OTHER fixed, appointed or permanent Chariot to speak to humanity OTHER THAN Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba, DLR, who is also known as Adi Dev, Adam, Ram, Krishna, Narayan, etc.
5. Any individual embodied soul CANNOT be called as Supreme Soul (but as per Drama Plan, Ravan or Maya DOES utilise the fixed, appointed or permanent Chariot of Ravan to MASQUERADE as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Adam’, ‘Ram’, ‘Confluence Age Krishna’, ‘Confluence Age Narayan’, etc., in order to propagate the CORRUPTED, ADULTERATED, DISTORTED & REVERSED advanced –knowledge to carry out the ‘shooting’ of Ravan Rajya in Confluence Age - from the very beginning generally, and from 1969 onwards, more specifically – thereby making the BLIND followers DELUSIVELY believe that the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan is the ‘Supreme Soul’ among embodied souls, thus introducing the concept of a SECOND ‘Supreme Soul’, to invoke DUALITY, within the frame-work of Drama)
6. God or REAL Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva or ShivBaba is NOT PRESENT in EITHER a corporeal vehicle or a subtle vehicle of any embodied soul ALL the time in Confluence Age. He only utilises the corporeal vehicle and subtle vehicle of ONLY a SINGLE embodied soul, for a short period during each day, to carry out His Trimurti functions of BVS in Confluence Age – that of Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba, DLR, who is also known as Adi Dev, Adam, Ram, Krishna, Narayan, etc.;
and what is their final destination?

Furthermore, the UNRIGHTEOUS children OBVIOUSLY CANNOT understand, (AS PER THEIR GOVERNING SANSKARS or proclivities), the simple logic that –
1. God CANNOT ride on the vehicle of any embodied soul the whole day; He only utilises a SINGLE vehicle to deliver the Murli/Vani and then leaves; so where is He, and what does He do, the rest of the time of the day, during Confluence Age?
2. When God CANNOT be in the vehicle of any embodied soul the whole day, what is the purpose of remembering God in any specific vehicle, either gross or subtle, (as advocated to them by Ravan or Maya through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan), other than to get themselves treacherously TRAPPED in the VICIOUS grip of body-consciousness?
3. Furthermore, when God REPEATEDLY advises that we should FORGET our own body, including all bodily relations and all bodily religions, then what is the purpose of CLEARLY CONTRADICTING God’s CLEAR DIRECTIVE and follow the dictates of Ravan or Maya who advises them, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, to remember God in an impure body of an impure soul – even when God CLEARLY DECLARES that He cannot be inside the physical body the whole day?
4. The soul of REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba, DLR, is NOT DEAD, but MORE ALIVE and MORE VIBRANT than any other physically embodied soul existing on the face of this earth, and he carries with him the continuous MEMORY of ALL occurrences of ENTIRE Confluence Age to date - NOT EVEN ONE SECOND LESS - and therefore ONLY he can be considered to be the REAL fixed, appointed, permanent Chariot of God, who is involved in carrying out intensive spiritual service along with God, since he is FREE from the constraints of a physical costume, after 1969.
5. Does any Principal of any school or college go on a long holiday for more than 20 years, during which period a Vice-Principal holds charge or responsibility in lieu of the Principal? Does this make any logical sense at all? Furthermore, even if the Principal is away even for ONE SINGLE DAY, leave alone 20 years, HOW CAN SUCH PRINCIPAL be considered to be the PERMANENT Chariot of God - as Ravan or Maya SUCCEEDS in indoctrinating the BLIND followers through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan?

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BKWSU SM, Revised 08.01.2016 wrote: मीठे-मीठे रूहानी बच्चे अभी सम्मुख बैठे हैं और बाप बहुत प्यार से समझा रहे हैं। ... तुम बच्चे सम्मुख बैठे हो। ... सदा सुखधाम का मालिक बनाने वाले बाप के सम्मुख आये हैं। अभी समझते हो सम्मुख सुनने और दूर रहकर सुनने में बहुत फ़र्क है। मधुबन में सम्मुख आते हो। मधुबन मशहूर है। मधुबन में उन्होंने कृष्ण का चित्र दिखाया है। परन्तु कृष्ण है नहीं।

Sweetest, spiritual Children are NOW sitting FACE to FACE, and the Father is explaining with a lot of Love. ... You children are sitting FACE to FACE. ... You have come FACE to FACE with the Father who is making you into the masters of the eternal Land of Happiness. You now understand that there is a vast difference between listening FACE to FACE and listening by staying afar. You come to Madhuban FACE to FACE. Madhuban is renowned. They (the devotees of the outer world) have shown an image of Krishna in Madhuban (of the outer world). However, Krishna (the FIRST prince of G A) is not there.
Who are the RIGHTEOUS Children who CLEARLY UNDERSTAND and EXPERIENCE that –

1. the above Murli point refers ONLY to THEM, who are the principal rulers of G A and S A, and hence who were fortunate to be FACE to FACE with God through His ‘mukrar-rath’ - Brahma (DLR), in ‘Sakar’ prior 1969, while they were in their ‘sakari’ consciousness; and are fortunate to be FACE to FACE with God through His SAME ‘mukrar-rath’ - Brahma (DLR), in ‘akar’ after 1969 to date, since they have developed their ‘akari’ consciousness

2. God Himself is making THEM into the Masters or Sovereigns of G A and S A, (in the Confluence Age), through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba, Adi Dev or Adam, soul of DLR, the FIRST prince and FIRST emperor of G A

3. THEY are the ONLY ONES who CAN TRULY know that there is a VAST DIFFERENCE between LISTENING/MEETING FACE to FACE, (in the ‘sakari’/’akari’ consciousness), and merely listening from afar (either through an audio/visual aid or a written Murli/Vani), while STILL in a ‘sakari’ consciousness

4. THEY are the ONLY ONES who CAN TRULY know that Ravan or Maya MISINTERPRETS & MISAPPROPRIATES EVERY POINT of the PURE Knowledge of God to OPPOSE, INSULT & DEFAME God by DECEPTIVELY TRICKING the UNRIGHTEOUS children into DELUSIVELY BELIEVING that the ACTUAL ‘mukrar-rath’ of God is only a ‘temporary’ one, and that the ACTUAL ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan is the ‘permanent’ ‘mukrar-rath’ of God;

5. "They (the devotees of the outer world) have shown an image of Krishna in Madhuban (of the outer world). However, Krishna (the FIRST prince of G A) is not there."
the ACTUAL UNLIMITED meaning of the above point for Confluence Age is : "They (the UNRIGHTEOUS children) have shown an image of (Confluence Age or APPARENT or FALSE) Krishna in (their so-called Mini) Madhuban. However, (ACTUAL or REAL) Krishna (the FIRST prince of G A) is NOT there (in his role as Brahma Baba)."

and what is their final destination?


Who are the UNRIGHTEOUS children who DO NOT CLEARLY UNDERSTAND or EXPERIENCE –

1. that the above Murli point DOES NOT refer to THEM, but to the principal rulers of G A and S A, (WHILE they are the principal rulers ('suryavanshi' and 'chandravanshi') of Ravan’s ‘g a’ and ‘s a’ during C A), and hence they WERE NOT fortunate to be FACE to FACE with God through His ‘mukrar-rath’ - Brahma
(DLR), in ‘Sakar’ prior 1969, (while they played their roles in their ‘sakari’ consciousness, and had DOUBTFUL intellects); and are STILL NOT fortunate to be FACE to FACE with God through His SAME ‘mukrar-rath’ - Brahma (DLR), in ‘akar’ after 1969 to date, since they have NOT developed their ‘akari’ consciousness, (and STILL have DOUBTFUL intellects);
So now they are (ACTUALLY) FACE to FACE with Ravan or Maya, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Shankar’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Adam’, ‘Ram’, ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Confluence Age Krishna’, ‘Confluence Age Narayan’, etc., etc., etc., who DECEPTIVELY TRICKS them into DELUSIVELY BELIEVING that the MISINTERPRETED & MISAPPROPRIATED points of God’s Pure Knowledge are the ‘true advanced clarifications’ of God, which constitute the so-called ‘advanced –knowledge’ given by God through his corporeal body, as ‘Shankar’ - (ALL PERFECTLY & ACCURATELY, AS PER DRAMA PLAN)!

2. that it is NOT God Himself, but ACTUALLY Ravan or Maya, who is making THEM into the Masters or Sovereigns ('suryavanshi' and 'chandravanshi') of Ravan’s ‘g a’ and ‘s a’ during C A, (in the Confluence Age), through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Shankar’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Adam’, ‘Ram’, ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Confluence Age Krishna’, ‘Confluence Age Narayan’, etc., etc., etc.

3. that there is a VAST DIFFERENCE between LISTENING to/or MEETING God FACE to FACE (through His ‘mukrar-rath’ - Brahma, DLR, in ‘Sakar’ prior 1969, & in ‘akar’ after 1969 to date, in the ‘sakari’/’akari’ consciousness), and merely listening from AFAR (either through an audio/visual aid or a written Murli/Vani), while STILL in a ‘sakari’ consciousness; OR even LISTENING to/or MEETING Ravan or Maya FACE to FACE, (through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Shankar’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Adam’, ‘Ram’, ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Confluence Age Krishna’, ‘Confluence Age Narayan’, etc., etc., etc.), DELUSIVELY BELIEVING that they are LISTENING to/or MEETING God FACE to FACE, while STILL in their ‘sakari’ consciousness

4. that Ravan or Maya MISINTERPRETS & MISAPPROPRIATES EVERY POINT of the PURE Knowledge of God to OPPOSE, INSULT & DEFAME God, by DECEPTIVELY TRICKING them into DELUSIVELY BELIEVING that the ACTUAL ‘mukrar-rath’ of God was/is only a ‘temporary’ one, and that the ACTUAL ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan is the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God; and INSTILS full confidence in them that ALL THEIR MISINTERPRETATIONS & MISAPPROPRIATIONS are ACTUALLY as per ORIGINAL Murli/Vani points, which have an ‘UNLIMITED’ meaning;

5. "They (the devotees of the outer world) have shown an image of Krishna in Madhuban (of the outer world). However, Krishna (the FIRST prince of G A) is not there."
the MISINTERPRETED & MISAPPROPRIATED so-called 'UNLIMITED' meaning of the above point for Confluence Age, which Ravan or Maya would initiate, through the 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan would be :
"They (the 'RIGHTEOUS' children - who are UNRIGHTEOUS, ACCORDING to them) have shown an image of Krishna (Brahma Baba) in Madhuban (at Mt. Abu). However, Krishna (Brahma Baba) is NOT there (in 'Sakar')."

and what is their final destination?

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BKWSU SM, Revised 09.01.2016 wrote: बाप बैठ समझाते हैं मामेकम् याद करो। मैं एवरप्योर हूँ। मैं कभी मनुष्य तन नहीं लेता हूँ। न दैवी तन, न मनुष्य तन लेता हूँ अर्थात् मैं जन्म-मरण में नहीं आता हूँ। सिर्फ तुम बच्चों को स्वर्ग की बादशाही देने लिए, जब यह 60 वर्ष की वानप्रस्थ अवस्था में होता है तब इनके तन में आता हूँ। यही पूरा सतोप्रधान से तमोप्रधान बना है।

The Father (ShivBaba or God) sits and explains: Remember Me ALONE (ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance). I am ever pure. I never take a human body. I neither take a body of a deity nor of a human, that is, I never enter the cycle of birth and death. I simply enter this one’s body when he (Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba, DLR, Adi Dev, Adam, soul of the first prince of G A) reaches 60, the age of retirement, to give you Children the Sovereignty of Heaven (G A and S A). It is this one (Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba, DLR, Adi Dev, Adam, soul of the first prince of the G A) who has become tamopradhan from being completely satopradhan.

यह शरीर तो इस दादा की आत्मा का तख्त था। अकाल तख्त है ना। अभी यह अकालमूर्त बाप का तख्त है। ... अभी बाप समझाते हैं यह सब अकाल आत्माओं के तख्त हैं। आत्मा अकाल है जिसको काल खा न सके। बाकी तख्त तो बदलते रहते हैं। अकालमूर्त आत्मा इस तख्त पर बैठती है। पहले छोटा तख्त होता है फिर बड़ा हो जाता है। आत्मा एक शरीर छोड़ दूसरा लेती है। आत्मा अकाल है।

This body was the ‘throne’ of the soul of this Dada (Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba, DLR, Adi Dev, Adam, soul of the first prince of the G A). The immortal throne. NOW, this (the body of Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba, DLR, Adi Dev, Adam, soul of the first prince of the G A) is the ‘throne’ of the Father (ShivBaba or God), the Immortal Image. ... The Father now explains: All of these (bodies) are ‘thrones’ of immortal souls. The soul is immortal and cannot be consumed by death. However, the ‘throne’ keeps changing. This immortal image, the soul, sits on this ‘throne’. At first, the ‘throne’ is small, and then it grows. The soul sheds a body and takes another. The soul is immortal.

हर एक बात अच्छी रीति समझकर निश्चय करनी चाहिए। यह कोई मनुष्य थोड़ेही कहते हैं। यह है श्रीमत अर्थात् श्रेष्ठ ते श्रेष्ठ मत, भगवान की। बाकी सब हैं मनुष्य मत। मनुष्य मत से गिरते आते हो। अब श्रीमत से तुम चढ़ते हो। बाप मनुष्य से देवता बना देते हैं। दैवी मत स्वर्गवासी की है और वह है नर्कवासी मनुष्य मत, जिसको रावण मत कहा जाता है। रावण राज्य भी कोई कम नहीं है। सारी दुनिया पर रावण का राज्य है। यह बेहद की लंका है जिस पर रावण का राज्य है फिर देवताओं का पवित्र राज्य होगा।

Understand everything very clearly and have firm faith. It is not a human being who is saying this. This is Shrimat, the most elevated directions of God. All the rest are the dictates of human beings. By following human dictates you have been falling. Now, by following Shrimat, you ascend. The Father changes you from humans into deities. The divine dictates are for the residents of heaven, and those are human dictates for the residents of hell, which are called the dictates of Ravan. The kingdom of Ravan is no less. It is now the kingdom of Ravan over the whole world. This is an unlimited island (Lanka) over which there is the (unlimited) kingdom of Ravan. It will then become the pure (limited) Kingdom of deities.
Who are the RIGHTEOUS Children who CLEARLY UNDERSTAND, and HAVE NO DOUBT WHATSOEVER that –

1. the Father (ShivBaba or God) enters the body of DLR (Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba, Adi Dev, Adam, soul of the first prince of the G A) when he reaches 60, the age of retirement, to give THEM the Sovereignty of Heaven (G A and S A); and therefore, any worldly records of the birth date of DLR, which indicate otherwise, HAVE TO BE FALSE

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2. the body of DLR, (Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba, Adi Dev, Adam, soul of the first prince of the G A) is the ‘immortal throne’ of the Father (ShivBaba or God), the Immortal Image

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3. ShivBaba or God gives Shri‘mat’ (in the Confluence Age), specifically for the potential ‘Suryavanshi’ and ‘Chandravanshi’ Sovereigns of G A and S A, (and generally for the residents of RamRajya), through His ‘mukrar-rath’ of DLR;
WHILE, Ravan or Maya gives Ravan‘mat’ (in the Confluence Age), specifically for the potential ‘suryavanshi’ and ‘chandravanshi’ sovereigns of Ravan’s ‘g a’ and ‘s a’ in C A, (and generally for the residents of Ravan Rajya), through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’;

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and what is their final destination?


Who are the UNRIGHTEOUS children who DO NOT CLEARLY UNDERSTAND, and therefore DOUBT that –

1. the Father (ShivBaba or God) enters the body of DLR (Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba, Adi Dev, Adam, soul of the first prince of G A) when he reaches 60, the age of retirement, to give THEM the Sovereignty of Heaven (G A and S A); and therefore, any worldly records of the birth date of DLR, which indicate otherwise, HAVE TO BE FALSE

2. the body of DLR, (Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba, Adi Dev, Adam, soul of the first prince of the G A) is the ‘immortal throne’ of the Father (ShivBaba or God), the Immortal Image

3. ShivBaba or God gives Shri‘mat’ (in the Confluence Age), specifically for the potential Sovereigns of
G A and S A, (and generally for the residents of RamRajya), through His ‘mukrar-rath’ of DLR;
WHILE, Ravan or Maya gives Ravan‘mat’ (in the Confluence Age), specifically for the potential sovereigns of Ravan’s ‘g a’ and ‘s a’ in C A, (and generally for the residents of Ravan Rajya), through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’;

and what is their final destination?

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BKWSU SM, Revised 16.01.2016 wrote: ऐसे नहीं, होशियार ट्रेटर नहीं बनते हैं, अच्छे-अच्छे होशियार भी ट्रेटर बन पड़ते हैं। उस सेना में भी ऐसे होता है।

It is not that clever ones do not become TRAITORS! Even very good and clever ones (like ‘Arjun’, ‘Abhimanyu’ & ‘Angad’) become TRAITORS. Same takes place in the other army (of the outer world) also!
Who are the RIGHTEOUS Children who CLEARLY UNDERSTAND that even VERY GOOD and CLEVER ONES, (like ‘Arjun’, ‘Abhimanyu’ & ‘Angad’), also become TRAITORS, in the SPIRITUAL ARMY, and begin to STAUNCHLY (although DELUSIVELY) BELIEVE that the Mayavi ‘Ishwariya Rup’ or ‘Godly Form’ of Ravan or APPARENT, FALSE ‘ShivBaba’ is actually ABSOLUTE, REAL ShivBaba, and are thus INADVERTENTLY & ‘HYPNOTICALLY’ MOTIVATED to swear their allegiance to Ravan or Maya through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as 'ShivBaba' (WITHOUT 'REAL-EYEsing' that they are actually doing so) - which constitutes the ‘shooting’ in the Confluence Age of similar occurrences in the armies of the outer world;
and what is their final destination?

Who are the UNRIGHTEOUS children who DO NOT CLEARLY UNDERSTAND or 'REAL-EYEs' that THEY THEMSELVES are the VERY GOOD and CLEVER ONES, (like ‘Arjun’, ‘Abhimanyu’ & ‘Angad’), who become TRAITORS, in the SPIRITUAL ARMY, and who begin to STAUNCHLY (although DELUSIVELY) BELIEVE that the Mayavi ‘Ishwariya Rup’ or ‘Godly Form’ of Ravan or APPARENT, FALSE ‘ShivBaba’ is actually ABSOLUTE, REAL ShivBaba, and are thus INADVERTENTLY & ‘HYPNOTICALLY’ MOTIVATED to swear their allegiance to Ravan or Maya through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as 'ShivBaba' (WITHOUT 'REAL-EYEsing' that they are actually doing so) - which constitutes the ‘shooting’ in the Confluence Age of similar occurrences in the armies of the outer world; and what is their final destination?

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BKWSU SM, Revised 20.01.2016 wrote: ऐसा तो कोई कह न सके कि मैं परमधाम से आया हूँ तुमको वापिस ले जाने। परमपिता परमात्मा ही कह सकते हैं ब्रह्मा द्वारा, और किसके द्वारा भी कह नहीं सकते।

NO ONE ELSE can say that, “I have come from the Supreme Abode to take you back”. Only the Supreme Father Supreme Soul, can say this through Brahma (REAL Prajapita Brahma, soul of DLR).
HE CANNOT SAY THIS THROUGH ANYONE ELSE AT ALL!
Who are the RIGHTEOUS Children who CLEARLY UNDERSTAND, and HAVE NO DOUBT WHATSOEVER that ONLY the Supreme Father Supreme Soul, God or REAL ShivBaba can say that, “I have come from the Supreme Abode to take you back”, ONLY through Brahma (Brahma Baba, REAL Prajapita Brahma, Adi Dev, Adam, soul of DLR, soul of the FIRST prince of G A); and that GOD CANNOT SAY THIS, OR TAKE ANYONE BACK, THROUGH ANY OTHER SOUL, AT ALL;
and what is their final destination?

Who are the UNRIGHTEOUS children who DO NOT CLEARLY UNDERSTAND that ONLY the Supreme Father Supreme Soul, God or REAL ShivBaba can say that, “I have come from the Supreme Abode to take you back”, ONLY through Brahma (Brahma Baba, REAL Prajapita Brahma, Adi Dev, Adam, soul of DLR, soul of the FIRST prince of G A); and that GOD CANNOT SAY THIS, OR TAKE ANYONE BACK, THROUGH ANY OTHER SOUL, AT ALL;
the UNRIGHTEOUS children SPLIT the TITLE, ‘SUPREME Father Supreme Soul’, meant EXCLUSIVELY for GOD, into TWO, and are DELUSIVELY made to believe that the TITLE of ‘Supreme Soul’ is meant for the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan or Maya, MASQUERADING as FALSE ‘Prajapita Brahma’ and FALSE ‘ShivBaba’, in Confluence Age, instrumental to carry out the ‘shooting’ of Ravan Rajya & DUALITY – (ALL, PERFECTLY, AS PER DRAMA PLAN);
and what is their final destination?

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BKWSU - BapDada Avyakt Milan 18.01.2016 wrote: बाप भी बच्चों को उसी रूप में देखते मेरे बच्चे और बच्चे भी उसी रूप से देख रहे हैं मेरा बाबा। सभी के दिल में क्या दिखाई दे रहा है? मेरा बाबा आ गया। मेरा बाबा, मेरा कहने में कितनी खुशी होती है। ...

मेरा बाबा आ गया। बाबा और बच्चे का मिलन हो रहा है। यह मिलन भी विचित्र मिलन है। स्थूल में कोई किस ए॰ज का है, कोई किस ए॰ज का है लेकिन कौन है, तो शार्ट में कहेंगे बाप और बच्चे बैठे हैं। ...

बाबा के आगे स्टूडेन्ट के रूप में बैठे हैं ...

... गॉडली स्टूडेन्ट हैं और टीचर भी कौन है? स्वयं भगवान हमारे लिए विशेष मिलने आये हैं। भगवान हमसे मिलने आये हैं या हम भगवान से मिलने आये हैं। जो भी आये, पहचानते हैं तो क्या कहेंगे? ...

सबकी दिल यही गीत गा रही है और कितना प्यार, कैसा बाप और बच्चे के रूप में मिलन, आज की सभा में देखो तो और कोई सम्बन्ध नहीं, बाप और बच्चा। चाहे बुजुर्ग हो, चाहे कोई भी सम्बन्ध में हो लेकिन हैं सब स्टूडेन्ट के रूप में। सभी की बुद्धि में स्टूडेन्ट की भावना समाई हुई है। ...

... इन्हों को पढ़ाने वाला कौन है? वह अगर ध्यान में रहे तब तो बेड़ा पार हो गया। परमात्मा पढ़ाने वाला है, यह कभी सुना है क्या कि परमात्मा पढ़ाता भी है लेकिन इस पढ़ाई में मैजारिटी सब पास हो जाते हैं क्यों? यहाँ का जो टीचर है, ऐसी विधि से पढ़ाता है जो सुना वह जैसे छपाई हो रही है। भूलता नहीं है। सब खुशी खुशी से पढ़ रहे हैं।

The Father sees you children with that same vision of being ‘My Children’, and the children too are looking at the Father with the same vision of being 'My Baba'. What is visible in the heart of each of you? “My Baba has come! My Baba”. When you say, ‘mine’ you EXPERIENCE so much happiness. ...

“My Baba has come”. The meeting of Baba (GOD Himself) and the children is taking place. This meeting too is a unique meeting. Physically, some are of one age and others are of another age, but who are you? In short, you would say, ‘The Father (GOD Himself) and the children are sitting here.’ ...

You are sitting in front of Baba (GOD Himself) in the form of students...

... you are Godly students and who is your Teacher? God, Himself, has especially come to meet us. God has come to meet us, and we have come to meet God. Whoever has come, what do you say because of that Re-Cognition ? ...

This is the song that each one’s heart is singing, and there is so much love. What a meeting of the Father (GOD Himself) and the children! If you look at today’s gathering, there is no other relationship: only Father and Child. Whether someone is old or whatever the relationship, all are here in the form of students. The feeling of being a student is merged in each one’s intellect. ...

... who is teaching them? If your attention is on this, your boat can then go across. The Supreme Soul (GOD Himself) is teaching us. Has anyone ever heard that the Supreme Soul also teaches? However, in this study, the majority of you pass. Why? The Teacher (GOD Himself) here teaches in such a way that whatever you hear becomes imprinted; you do not forget it. All of you are studying with great HAPPINESS.
Who are the RIGHTEOUS Children who CLEARLY UNDERSTAND, Re-Cognize, EXPERIENCE and HAVE NO DOUBT WHATSOEVER –

1. that the Father (GOD Himself) is seeing His Children, and the Children are seeing their Father (GOD Himself), and are FILLED with HAPPINESS because the Father (GOD Himself), in 'akar', has come to MEET them in ‘Sakar’, through Avyakt Brahma Baba, using the instrumental corporeal body of DG

2. that the MEETING of the Father (GOD Himself) & Children is PRACTICALLY taking place in 'akar'/‘Sakar’, through Avyakt Brahma Baba, using the instrumental corporeal body of DG

3. that they (in 'Sakar') came to MEET GOD, and GOD Himself (in 'akar') has come SPECIALLY to MEET them, BOTH, in the form of Father & Child, as well as in the form of Teacher & Student (through His ‘mukrar-rath’ of Prajapita Brahma or Brahma Baba, in Avyakt, through the instrumental corporeal body of DG)

4. that the Supreme Soul (GOD Himself) is the ONE who TEACHES them, (through His ‘mukrar-rath’ of Prajapita Brahma or Brahma Baba, in Avyakt), and they STUDY with so much HAPPINESS, knowing that they PASS in this STUDY because this TEACHER (GOD Himself) TEACHES in such a MANNER that such TEACHINGS get IMPRINTED on their INTELLECTS DIRECTLY and they can NEVER FORGET the same;
and what is their final destination?

The RIGHTEOUS Children become worthy to become the ‘Suryavanshi’ & ‘Chandravanshi’ sovereigns of RamRajya in G A and S A!


Who are the UNRIGHTEOUS children who DO NOT CLEARLY UNDERSTAND, are COMPLETELY UNABLE to Re-Cognize, and therefore COMPLETELY DOUBT -

1. that the Father (GOD Himself) is seeing His RIGHTEOUS Children, and the RIGHTEOUS Children are seeing their Father (GOD Himself), and the RIGHTEOUS Children are FILLED with HAPPINESS because the Father (GOD Himself), in 'akar', has come to MEET them in ‘Sakar’, through Avyakt Brahma Baba, using the instrumental corporeal body of DG

2. that the MEETING of the Father (GOD Himself) & RIGHTEOUS Children is PRACTICALLY taking place in 'akar'/‘Sakar’, through Avyakt Brahma Baba, using the instrumental corporeal body of DG

3. that the RIGHTEOUS Children (in 'Sakar') came to MEET GOD, and GOD Himself (in 'akar') has come SPECIALLY to MEET the RIGHTEOUS Children, BOTH, in the form of Father & Child, as well as in the form of Teacher & Student (through His ‘mukrar-rath’ of Prajapita Brahma or Brahma Baba, in Avyakt, through the instrumental corporeal body of DG)

4. that the Supreme Soul (GOD Himself) is the ONE who TEACHES the RIGHTEOUS Children, (through His ‘mukrar-rath’ of Prajapita Brahma or Brahma Baba, in Avyakt), and the RIGHTEOUS Children STUDY with so much HAPPINESS, knowing that they PASS in this STUDY because this TEACHER (GOD Himself) TEACHES in such a MANNER that such TEACHINGS get IMPRINTED on the INTELLECTS of the RIGHTEOUS Children DIRECTLY and the RIGHTEOUS Children can NEVER FORGET the same;

As a DIRECT consequence of above

1. the UNRIGHTEOUS children, in 'Sakar', are DIVORCED from the experience of happiness of MEETING GOD in ‘akar’/'Sakar', through Avyakt Brahma Baba, using the instrumental corporeal body of DG – having been DECEPTIVELY TRICKED by Ravan or Maya, (by SEVERELY MIS-INTERPRETING & MIS-REPRESENTING GOD’s PURE Versions in the SMs, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan), that GOD cannot come in the corporeal body of DG, thus making them COMPLETELY BLIND (with the THIRD EYE), so that they CANNOT ‘SEE’ or 'PERCEIVE' that the Father (GOD Himself) comes to MEET the RIGHTEOUS Children in 'akar'/‘Sakar’, through Avyakt Brahma Baba, using the instrumental corporeal body of DG

2. the UNRIGHTEOUS children are DIVORCED from meeting GOD when the MEETING of the Father (GOD Himself) & RIGHTEOUS Children is PRACTICALLY taking place in 'akar'/‘Sakar’, through Avyakt Brahma Baba, using the instrumental corporeal body of DG;
and they are then left with NO OTHER OPTION but to DELUSIVELY FEEL ‘content’ in ‘meeting’ FALSE ‘ShivBaba’ through FALSE ‘Prajapita Brahma’, in ‘Sakar’, DELUSIVELY BELIEVING that they are ‘meeting’ God, when, in fact, they are being TREACHEROUSLY SWINDLED by the ‘Godly Form’ of Ravan or Maya, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, INVOLVED in carrying out the ‘shooting’ of Ravan Rajya or DUALITY, in Confluence Age.

3. the UNRIGHTEOUS children DIVORCE themselves from meeting GOD, when GOD Himself comes SPECIALLY to MEET the RIGHTEOUS Children, BOTH, in the form of Father & Child, as well as in the form of Teacher & Student (through His ‘mukrar-rath’ of Prajapita Brahma or Brahma Baba, in Avyakt, through the instrumental corporeal body of DG)

4. the UNRIGHTEOUS children DIVORCE themselves from the Supreme Soul (GOD Himself) when He TEACHES the RIGHTEOUS Children, (through His ‘mukrar-rath’ of Prajapita Brahma or Brahma Baba, in Avyakt), and therefore they FAIL MISERABLY in this Godly STUDY; but nevertheless they do pass in the DoGly study, having been TREACHEROUSLY TRICKED into DELUSIVELY BELIEVING that the DoGly study is the Godly STUDY; and that they are studying in the Godly University, when, in fact, they are actually studying in the DoGly university initiated by Ravan or Maya, in Confluence Age;
and what is their final destination?

The UNRIGHTEOUS children become worthy ONLY to become the ‘suryavanshi’ & ‘chandravanshi’ sovereigns of Ravan Rajya in Ravan’s ‘g a’ and ‘s a’ during C A!


And, in accordance with their governing consciousness and degree of PURITY & SPIRITUALITY -

a) they would consider that ONLY the soul of Avyakt Brahma Baba (DLR) is speaking the 'Vani' through the corporeal body of DG (with whom they DID NOT relate to in 'Vyakt' BEFORE, and they CANNOT relate to in Avyakt after 1969 to date, ANYWAY), and ShivBaba cannot be present in DG (the normal voice is considered to be due to the soul of Brahma Baba reaching his 'seed' stage of consciousness) -
SUCH SOULS HAVE NO CHANCE OF EVEN BEGINNING THEIR TRUE SPIRITUAL JOURNEY, SINCE THEY HAVE BEEN TREACHEROUSLY TRAPPED BY Ravan OR Maya IN THE BOG OF THE DECEPTIVE CONCEPTS OF 'Bhakti' OR DEVOTION & ARE THEREFORE COMPLETELY DIVORCED FROM GOD!

b) they would consider that actually ONLY Dadi Gulzar herself is now speaking the 'Vani' (thereby 'fooling' the assembly - since same has been spoken in a normal voice, unlike before, and since, according to them, NEITHER Brahma Baba, NOR ShivBaba can be present in DG) -
SUCH SOULS HAVE STILL TO BEGIN THEIR TRUE SPIRITUAL JOURNEY, SINCE THEY HAVE STILL NOT FINISHED PLOUGHING THROUGH THE CONJECTURES OF THE CONCEPTS OF 'Bhakti' OR DEVOTION!

c) they would CLEARLY KNOW & UNDERSTAND that BOTH ShivBaba and Brahma Baba, TOGETHER as BapDada, are speaking the 'Vani' through the corporeal body of DG - but they would be only able to relate to Avyakt Brahma Baba, since they have developed only an 'akari' consciousness, so far, on their spiritual journey, (and that too NUMBER-WISE) -
SUCH SOULS HAVE REACHED HALF-WAY TOWARDS THEIR TRUE SPIRITUAL DESTINATION!

d) they would CLEARLY KNOW & UNDERSTAND that BOTH ShivBaba and Brahma Baba, TOGETHER as BapDada, are speaking the 'Vani' through the corporeal body of DG - and would be able to relate BOTH to Avyakt Brahma Baba AS WELL AS to 'nirakari' ShivBaba, since they are VERY CLOSE to their 'nirakari' consciousness, so far, on their spiritual journey, (and that too NUMBER-WISE) -
SUCH SOULS HAVE ALMOST REACHED THEIR TRUE SPIRITUAL DESTINATION!

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BKWSU SM, Revised 25.01.2016 wrote: सतयुग में होता है एक बाप। इस समय तुमको 3 बाप हैं क्योंकि भगवान आते हैं प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा के तन में, वह भी तो बाप है सबका। लौकिक बाप भी है। अच्छा अब तीनों बाप से ऊंच वर्सा किसका? निराकार बाप वर्सा कैसे दे। वह फिर देते हैं ब्रह्मा द्वारा। इस चित्र पर तुम बहुत अच्छी रीति समझा सकते हो। शिवबाबा निराकार है और यह है प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा, आदि देव, ग्रेट ग्रेट ग्रैन्ड फादर। बाप कहते हैं मुझ शिव को तुम ग्रेट-ग्रेट ग्रैन्ड फादर नहीं कहेंगे। मैं सभी का बाप हूँ। यह है प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा

In the Golden Age you have one father (father of the physical body). At this time (in Confluence Age), you have THREE fathers, because God (ShivBaba) comes in the body of Prajapita Brahma (Brahma Baba, DLR), he TOO (Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba, DLR) is the Father of everyone (ALL EMBODIED SOULS). You also have a worldly Father (father of the body). Achcha, which of the THREE fathers gives you the HIGHEST inheritance? How does the incorporeal Father give you an inheritance? He gives that to you through Brahma (Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba, DLR). You can explain through this picture very well. Shiv Baba is incorporeal and THIS ONE (Brahma Baba, DLR) is Prajapita Brahma, Adi Dev, the Great-Great-Grandfather. The Father says: You would not call Me, Shiva, “the Great-Great-Grandfather”. I am the Father of All (Souls), and THIS ONE is Prajapita Brahma (Brahma Baba, soul of DLR, soul of the first prince of G A, REAL Prajapita Brahma, the Father of the People, the Father of Humanity, the Father of ALL EMBODIED SOULS ON THE FACE OF THIS PLANET, CALLED EARTH – WHETHER THEY LIKE TO KNOW IT OR NOT, WHETHER THEY WOULD LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE IT OR NOT)!
Who are the RIGHTEOUS Children who CLEARLY UNDERSTAND, Re-Cognize, and HAVE NO DOUBT WHATSOEVER that –

1. ShivBaba or God comes in the body of Prajapita Brahma, who is the soul of DLR or the soul of the first prince of G A

2. whereas ShivBaba or God is the Father of ALL SOULS - Prajapita Brahma, (who is the soul of DLR or the soul of the first prince of G A), is the Father of Humanity, the Father of the People or the Father of ALL EMBODIED SOULS on this PLANET EARTH - WHETHER THE UNRIGHTEOUS children LIKE TO KNOW IT OR NOT; WHETHER THEY WOULD LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE IT OR NOT; WHETHER THEY WOULD LIKE TO, OR WHETHER THEY ARE ABLE TO, UNDERSTAND IT OR NOT

3. ShivBaba or God, (who is the incorporeal Father of ALL SOULS), gives the inheritance of sovereignty in
G A and S A, through Brahma (Brahma Baba, soul of DLR, soul of the first prince of G A, REAL Prajapita Brahma); while Ravan or Maya, (which represents NESCIENCE or the COLLECTIVE NEGATIVE ENERGY), gives the inheritance of sovereignty in Ravan’s ‘g a’ and ‘s a’ during C A, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan or the soul of the last prince of S A, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, etc., etc., etc., during Confluence Age;
and what is their final destination?


Who are the UNRIGHTEOUS children who DO NOT CLEARLY UNDERSTAND, and therefore are COMPLETELY UNABLE to Re-Cognize, and therefore COMPLETELY DOUBT -

1. that ShivBaba or God comes in the body of Prajapita Brahma, who is the soul of DLR or the soul of the first prince of G A

2. that, whereas ShivBaba or God is the Father of ALL SOULS - Prajapita Brahma, (who is the soul of DLR or the soul of the first prince of G A), is the Father of Humanity, the Father of the People or the Father of ALL EMBODIED SOULS on this PLANET EARTH - WHETHER THEY LIKE TO KNOW IT OR NOT, WHETHER THEY WOULD LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE IT OR NOT

3. that ShivBaba or God, (who is the incorporeal Father of ALL SOULS), gives the inheritance of sovereignty in G A and S A, through Brahma (Brahma Baba, soul of DLR, soul of the first prince of
G A,
REAL Prajapita Brahma); while Ravan or Maya, (which represents NESCIENCE or the COLLECTIVE NEGATIVE ENERGY), gives the inheritance of sovereignty in Ravan’s ‘g a’ and ‘s a’ during C A, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan or the soul of the last prince of S A, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, etc., etc., etc., during Confluence Age;
and what is their final destination?

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BKWSU SM, Revised 26.01.2016 wrote: बाप समझाते हैं एक तरफ है रावण की आसुरी सप्रदाय, जो बाप को नहीं जानते हैं। दूसरी तरफ हो तुम बच्चे। तुम भी पहले नहीं जानते थे। बाप इनके लिए भी सुनाते हैं कि इसने भी बहुत भक्ति की है, इनका यह है बहुत जन्मों के अन्त का जन्म। यही पहले पावन थे, अब पतित बने हैं। इनको मैं जानता हूँ। अभी तुम और किसकी मत सुनो। बाप कहते हैं, मैं तुम बच्चों से बात करता हूँ।

The Father explains: On one side, there is the devilish community of Ravan, who DO NOT ‘KNOW’ the Father. On the other side, there are you Children. Previously, you didn’t understand this either. The Father also speaks of THIS ONE (‘EEN’), that he (‘EES’) too has performed a lot of devotion. This is the LAST of his many births. THIS ONE was at first pure and has now become impure. I know him. You must now no longer listen to anyone else. The Father says: I am speaking to you Children.

मैं भी इनके बहुत जन्मों के अन्त में ही आकर प्रवेश करता हूँ। यह पूरा भक्त था। नारायण की पूजा करता था। इनमें ही प्रवेश कर फिर इनको नारायण बनाता हूँ। अब तुमको भी पुरुषार्थ करना है। यह डीटी राजधानी स्थापन हो रही है। माला बनती है ना। ऊपर में है निराकार फूल, फिर मेरू युगल। शिवबाबा के नीचे एकदम यह खड़े हैं। जगतपिता ब्रह्मा और जगत अम्बा सरस्वती। अभी तुम इस पुरुषार्थ से विष्णुपुरी के मालिक बनते हो।

I come and enter THIS ONE at the end of his many births. He was a COMPLETE devotee; he used to worship Narayan. I enter him ONLY and make him into Narayan. Now, you too have to make effort. This deity Kingdom is being established. A rosary is being created. At the TOP is the incorporeal Flower (Supreme Father Supreme Soul, ShivBaba or God), then there is the dual-bead (soul-mates, Father Brahma-Lekhraj Kirpalani & Mother Saraswati-Om Radhe). They are standing DIRECTLY below Shiv Baba: the World Father Brahma (DLR) and the World Mother Saraswati (Om Radhe). You are now becoming the masters of the land of Vishnu through this effort.
Who are the RIGHTEOUS Children who CLEARLY UNDERSTAND, Re-Cognize, and HAVE NO DOUBT WHATSOEVER –

1. that on ONE SIDE are the RIGHTEOUS Children; and on the OTHER SIDE are Ravan’s progeny of DEMONS, (the UNRIGHTEOUS Children), who DO NOT KNOW REAL ShivBaba, and DELUSIVELY BELIEVE that Ravan, MASQUERADING as FALSE ‘ShivBaba’, is the REAL ShivBaba

2. that the Father - REAL ShivBaba - ONLY speaks to the RIGHTEOUS Children, [while He does not even look at the UNRIGHTEOUS children, and hence does not bother to mention about their VICIOUS CONDUCT & BEHAVIOUR – (of CONSTANTLY DEFAMING & INSULTING GOD, by INCESSANTLY CORRUPTING & ADULTERATING His PURE Versions) - in any of the AVs – DIRECTLY - but provides such CLARIFICATIONS on a very SUBTLE LEVEL, ONLY UNDERSTOOD by the RIGHTEOUS Children]; and the RIGHTEOUS Children also CLEARLY UNDERSTAND how the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan and the UNRIGHTEOUS Children TREACHEROUSLY TWIST the connotation of the words ‘EEN’ and ‘EES’ to IMPLY that EACH refers to a DIFFERENT embodied soul; whereas, in this PARTICULAR CONTEXT, BOTH refer to the SAME embodied soul of DLR, Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba, Adam or Adi Dev, who was in his LAST corporeal body of many births; WHEREAS, the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan WAS NOT in his LAST corporeal body in his previous birth, but COMPLETELY DECEIVES the UNRIGHTEOUS children, EVEN on this ‘score’

3. that the World Father Brahma (DLR) and the World Mother Saraswati (Om Radhe), who are SOUL-MATES (‘yugal-dana’) are DIRECTLY below or NEXT TO ShivBaba or God, who is the INCORPOREAL MOTHER-Father or ‘PARLOKIK’ PARENT of ALL SOULS; while Brahma Baba & Saraswati Mama are the World Father (REAL ‘JagatPita’) and World Mother (REAL ‘JagadAmba’) or ‘ALOKIK’ PARENTS of ALL EMBODIED SOULS ON THIS PLANET EARTH, being VERY NEXT TO GOD IN SPIRITUAL STATUS & therefore the TRUE REPRESENTATIVES of GOD on the corporeal sphere, in His absence;
and what is their final destination?


Who are the UNRIGHTEOUS children who DO NOT CLEARLY UNDERSTAND, are COMPLETELY UNABLE to Re-Cognize, and therefore COMPLETELY DOUBT -

1. that on ONE SIDE are the RIGHTEOUS Children; and on the OTHER SIDE are Ravan’s progeny of DEMONS, (the UNRIGHTEOUS Children – THEY THEMSELVES), who DO NOT 'KNOW' REAL ShivBaba, and DELUSIVELY BELIEVE that Ravan, MASQUERADING as FALSE ‘ShivBaba’, is the REAL ShivBaba

2. that the Father, REAL ShivBaba, ONLY speaks to the RIGHTEOUS Children, [while He does not even look at the UNRIGHTEOUS children, and hence does not bother to mention about their VICIOUS CONDUCT & BEHAVIOUR – (of CONSTANTLY DEFAMING & INSULTING GOD, by INCESSANTLY CORRUPTING & ADULTERATING His PURE Versions) - in any of the AVs – DIRECTLY - but provides such CLARIFICATIONS on a very SUBTLE LEVEL, ONLY UNDERSTOOD by the RIGHTEOUS Children], and the RIGHTEOUS Children also CLEARLY UNDERSTAND how the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan and the UNRIGHTEOUS Children TREACHEROUSLY TWIST the connotation of the words ‘EEN’ and ‘EES’ to IMPLY that EACH refers to a DIFFERENT embodied soul; whereas, in this PARTICULAR CONTEXT, BOTH refer to the SAME embodied soul of DLR, Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba, Adam or Adi Dev, who was in his LAST corporeal body of many births; WHEREAS, the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan WAS NOT in his LAST corporeal body in his previous birth, but COMPLETELY DECEIVES the UNRIGHTEOUS children, EVEN on this ‘score’!

3. that the World Father Brahma (DLR) and the World Mother Saraswati (Om Radhe), who are SOUL-MATES (‘yugal-dana’) are DIRECTLY below or NEXT TO ShivBaba or God, who is the INCORPOREAL MOTHER-Father or ‘PARLOKIK’ PARENT of ALL SOULS; while Brahma Baba & Saraswati Mama are the World Father (REAL ‘JagatPita’) and World Mother (REAL ‘JagadAmba’) or ‘ALOKIK’ PARENTS of ALL EMBODIED SOULS ON THIS PLANET EARTH, being VERY NEXT TO GOD IN SPIRITUAL STATUS & therefore the TRUE REPRESENTATIVES of GOD on the corporeal sphere, in His absence;
and what is their final destination?

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BKWSU SM, Revised 29.01.2016 wrote: पहले तो तुमको यह निश्चय चाहिए कि हमको पढाते कौन हैं। यह है श्री श्री शिवबाबा की मत। शिवबाबा तुम्हें श्रीमत दे रहे हैं। जिनको यह पता नहीं वह श्रेष्ठ बन कैसे सकते। इतने सब ब्राह्मण श्री श्री शिवबाबा की मत पर चलते हैं। परमात्मा की मत ही श्रेष्ठ बनाती है, जिसकी तकदीर में होगा, उनकी बुद्धि में बैठेगा। नहीं तो कुछ भी समझेंगे नहीं। जब समझेंगे तब खुश हो मदद करने लग पड़ेंगे। कई तो जानते नहीं हैं, उनको क्या पता, यह कौन हैं इसलिए बाबा कोई से मिलते भी नहीं हैं। वह तो और ही अपनी मत निकालेंगे। श्रीमत को न जानने कारण उनको भी अपनी मत देने लग पड़ते हैं। अब बाप आये ही हैं तुम बच्चों को श्रेष्ठ बनाने के लिए। बच्चे जानते हैं 5 हज़ार वर्ष पहले मुआफिक बाबा आपसे आकर मिले हैं। जिनको पता नहीं है, ऐसे रेसपान्ड दे नहीं सकते। बच्चों को पढाई का बहुत नशा रहना चाहिए। यह बड़ी ऊंच पढाई है परन्तु माया भी बड़ी अगेन्स्ट है। तुम जानते हो हम वह पढाई पढते हैं जिससे हमारे सिर पर डबल सिरताज आना है। भविष्य जन्म-जन्मान्तर डबल सिरताज बनेंगे। तो इसके लिए फिर ऐसा पूरा पुरुषार्थ करना चाहिए ना। इसको कहा जाता है राजयोग।

First of all, you must have the faith as to who is teaching us (the RIGHTEOUS Children). These are the Versions of Shri Shri ShivBaba (Supreme Father Supreme Soul, ShivBaba or God Himself). ShivBaba is giving you (the RIGHTEOUS Children) Shrimat (through His ‘mukrar-rath’ of Prajapita Brahma or Brahma Baba, the soul of DLR). How could those (the UNRIGHTEOUS Children) who DON’T UNDERSTAND THIS become elevated? All of you Brahmins (the RIGHTEOUS Children) ARE following the directions of Shri Shri ShivBaba (Supreme Father Supreme Soul, ShivBaba or God Himself). Only the directions of the Supreme Soul (REAL ShivBaba or God; and NOT APPARENT ‘ShivBaba’ or Ravan, through Ravan’s ‘mukar-rath’, who makes his followers believe that he is the Supreme Soul among embodied souls), make you elevated. THIS WILL SIT IN THE INTELLECTS OF THOSE (ONLY the RIGHTEOUS Children) WHO HAVE IT IN THEIR FORTUNE. Otherwise, they (the UNRIGHTEOUS Children) WON’T UNDERSTAND ANYTHING. Only when (AND IF) they understand this, will they become happy and begin to help you. Some (the UNRIGHTEOUS Children) DO NOT KNOW AT ALL; how would they know who THIS (yeh) ONE is (ShivBaba or God who speaks through His ‘mukar-rath’ of Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, in ‘Sakar’ until 1969, and in ‘akar’ to date), and this is why Baba doesn’t even meet anyone of them (the UNRIGHTEOUS Children). They would EVEN only GENERATE their own versions! Because of not understanding Shrimat, they begin to give their own versions (of the CORRUPTED & ADULTERATED advanced –knowledge) EVEN to that ONE (ShivBaba or God who speaks the PURE Versions, ONLY through His ‘mukar-rath’ of Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, in ‘Sakar’ until 1969, and in ‘akar’ to date). The Father has now come to make you Children elevated. You Children understand that Baba has come and met you exactly as He did 5000 years ago. Those who don’t understand this will not be able to respond in this way. You Children should have a lot of intoxication for this Study. This is a very high Study, but Maya (or Ravan through the ‘mukar-rath’ of Ravan, instrumental to carry out the ‘shooting’ of Ravan Rajya) is also very much against you. You understand that you are studying a study through which you will become double-crowned; you will become double-crowned for birth after birth in the future (in G A and S A or RamRajya). For this you need to make full effort, is it not? This is called Raja Yoga (whereas, the versions of Ravan through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan is called ‘raja dhoka’ – the HIGHEST DECEPTION - for rulers of Ravan Rajya).

तकदीर में होगा तो झट समझेगा। नहीं तो तुम कितना भी माथा मारो, बुद्धि में बैठेगा नहीं। बाप को ही नहीं जानते तो नास्तिक हैं अर्थात् न धनी के।

IF they (the UNRIGHTEOUS Children) have it in their fortune, they would understand IMMEDIATELY. Otherwise, no matter how much you (the RIGHTEOUS Children) beat your head, it will NOT SIT in their (the UNRIGHTEOUS Children’s) intellects. If they don’t know the Father, they are atheists, that is, they are ORPHANS (they DO NOT KNOW the REAL Mother&Father, REAL ShivBaba, and fall in the trap of the FALSE mother-Father, APPARENT ‘ShivBaba’ who is actually the ‘Iswariya Rup’ or ‘Godly Form’ of Ravan or Maya)!
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BKWSU AV 17.03.1981, Revised 31.01.2016 wrote: बाप-दादा तो अपना काम नहीं छोड़ते हैं। बाप सदा बच्चों की सम्भाल करते हैं। लौकिक में भी देखो माँ बच्चे के आसपास चक्र ज़रूर लगायेगी, क्योंकि स्नेह है। तो बाप-दादा व माता-पिता बच्चों के यहाँ चक्र कैसे नहीं लगायेंगे इसलिए रोज़ चक्र लगाते हैं। बाप-दादा दोनों साकार शरीर से अशरीरी हैं। वह अव्यक्त शरीरधारी, वह निराकार। दोनों को नींद की आवश्यकता नहीं है, इसलिए जहाँ भी चाहें वहाँ पहुँच सकते हैं।

BapDada (Supreme Father Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba or God, COMBINED with REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR) DO NOT STOP doing their work. The Father (Supreme Father Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba or God, AS THE ‘PARLOKIK’ MOTHER-Father, COMBINED with REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, AS THE ‘ALOKIK’ MOTHER-Father) CONSTANTLY look after their (RIGHTEOUS) Children. In ‘Lokik’ also, a mother would definitely be around her children because she loves them. So, how could BapDada (Supreme Father Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba or God, COMBINED with REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR) or the Mother & Father (Supreme Father Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba or God, AS THE ‘PARLOKIK’ MOTHER-Father, COMBINED with REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, AS THE ‘ALOKIK’ MOTHER-Father) not be around wherever the (RIGHTEOUS) Children are? This is why they (Supreme Father Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba or God, COMBINED with REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR) take rounds EVERY DAY. Both Bap (Supreme Father Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba or God) and Dada (REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR) ARE BODILESS IN TERMS OF A PHYSICAL BODY. One (REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR) has a SUBTLE BODY and the other One (Supreme Father Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba or God) is INCORPOREAL. NEITHER OF THEM NEEDS TO SLEEP, AND THEY ARE THEREFORE ABLE TO GO WHEREVER THEY WANT (AND WHENEVER THEY WANT, SINCE THEY DO NOT HAVE THE RESTRICTIONS OR CONSTRAINTS OF BEING WITHIN A CORPOREAL BODY OF AN EMBODIED HUMAN BEING).
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BKWSU SM, Revised 02.02.2016 wrote: आत्माओं की परमात्मा के साथ डोर जुटी हुई है, इसमें शरीर की कोई बात नहीं है। भल घर में बैठे रहो, बुद्धि से याद करना है।
The threads of souls are tied to the Supreme Soul. It is not a question of anything to do with the body. You may remain living at home, but simply remember Him with your intellect.

The threads (of the minds & intellects) of souls (of the RIGHTEOUS Children) are tied to (the MIND & INTELLECT of) the Supreme Soul (REAL ShivBaba or God). It is not a question of anything to do with the body (as the UNRIGHTEOUS children are DELUSIVELY made to BLINDLY BELIEVE, by Ravan or Maya, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan). You may remain living at home (once you have received the TRUE introduction of the ‘PARLOKIK’ Mother-Father, REAL ShivBaba or God; and the ‘ALOKIK’ Mother-Father, REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - ONLY THROUGH the soul of DLR), but simply remember Him (ACCURATELY; and UNADULTERATED with any bodily FORM, either GROSS or SUBTLE) with your intellect.

बच्चे तुम त्रिमूर्ति शिव जयन्ती अक्षर लिखते हो परन्तु इस समय तीन मूर्तियां तो हैं नहीं। तुम कहेंगे शिवबाबा ब्रह्मा द्वारा सृष्टि रचते हैं तो ब्रह्मा साकार में जरूर चाहिए ना। बाकी विष्णु और शंकर इस समय कहाँ हैं, जो तुम त्रिमूर्ति कहते हो। यह बहुत समझने की बातें हैं। त्रिमूर्ति का अर्थ ही ब्रह्मा-विष्णु-शंकर है। ब्रह्मा द्वारा स्थापना वह तो इस समय होती है। विष्णु द्वारा सतयुग में पालना होगी। विनाश का कार्य अन्त में होना है।
You children write the words “Trimurti Shiv Jayanti”. However, THREE MURTIS DO NOT exist AT THIS TIME. You say that Shiv Baba re-creates the world through Brahma. Therefore, Brahma definitely has to exist in the CORPOREAL form. You speak of the Trimurti, but where are Vishnu and Shankar AT THIS TIME? THESE MATTERS HAVE TO BE UNDERSTOOD VERY CLEARLY. Trimurti means Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar. ESTABLISHMENT through Brahma takes place AT THIS TIME. SUSTENANCE will take place through Vishnu in the Golden Age. The task of destruction will take place AT THE END.

You children write the words “Trimurti Shiv Jayanti”. However, THREE MURTIS DO NOT exist AT THIS TIME (PRIOR 1969). You say that Shiv Baba re-creates the world through Brahma. Therefore, Brahma (soul of DLR) definitely has to exist in the CORPOREAL form (AS LONG AS the RIGHTEOUS Children are ALSO in their CORPOREAL consciousness, NUMBER-WISE, UNTIL 1969). You speak of the Trimurti, but where are Vishnu and Shankar AT THIS TIME (PRIOR 1969)? THESE MATTERS HAVE TO BE UNDERSTOOD VERY CLEARLY. Trimurti means Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar. ESTABLISHMENT (by the ‘PARLOKIK’ Mother-Father, REAL ShivBaba or God) through Brahma (the ‘ALOKIK’ Mother-Father, REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, ALONG with his soul-mate or ‘yugal-dana’ Om Radhe or Mama – BOTH OF THEM BEING IN IMPURE CORPOREAL BODIES - AND HENCE 'BRAHMA' IS SHOWN WITH ORDINARY CLOTHES ‘OF THE PHYSICAL BODY’) takes place AT THIS TIME (in the BEGINNING of the Confluence Age). SUSTENANCE will take place through Vishnu in the Golden Age (THROUGH the VERY SAME ‘ALOKIK’ Mother-Father, REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, AS Narayan; ALONG with his soul-mate or ‘yugal-dana’ Om Radhe or Mama, AS LakshmiBOTH OF THEM BEING IN PURE CORPOREAL BODIES - AND HENCE 'Vishnu' IS SHOWN WITH ROYAL CLOTHES ‘OF THE PHYSICAL BODY’, 'ABOVE' THIS 'Kaliyugi' CORPOREAL WORLD, BELONGING TO A DIFFERENT WORLD ORDER). The task of destruction will take place AT THE END (of the Confluence Age - THROUGH the VERY SAME ‘ALOKIK’ Mother-Father, REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, AS Avyakt ‘FARISHTA’ or ANGEL; ALONG with his soul-mate or ‘yugal-dana’ Om Radhe or Mama, AS Avyakt ‘FARISHTA’ or ANGELBOTH OF THEM BEING IN PURE ANGELIC SUBTLE BODIESAND HENCE 'Shankar' IS SHOWN WITHOUT ANY CLOTHES ‘OF THE PHYSICAL BODY’).

कृष्ण और राधे की आयु में 2-3 वर्ष का फ़र्क होगा। सतयुग में जरूर पहले कृष्ण ने जन्म लिया होगा फिर राधे ने। परन्तु सतयुग कब था, यह किसको पता नहीं है। तुमको भी समझने में बहुत वर्ष लगे हैं, तो दो दिन में कोई कहाँ तक समझेंगे। बाप तो बहुत सहज बताते हैं, वह है बेहद का बाप, जरूर उनसे सबको वर्सा मिलना चाहिए ना।
There would be a difference of TWO to THREE years between the ages of Krishna and Radhe. Krishna would be born FIRST in Golden Age and THEN Radhe. However, no one understands when the Golden Age existed. You too have taken many years to understand this. How much would someone understand in just two days? The Father explains everything to you very simply. He is the unlimited Father. Everyone should definitely receive an inheritance from Him.

There would be a difference of TWO to THREE years between the ages of Krishna and Radhe (they DO NOT take BIRTH at the SAME TIME in the Golden Age; HOWEVER, they are born as TWINS in the VERY BEGINNING of Copper Age). Krishna would be born FIRST in Golden Age and THEN Radhe. However, no one understands when the (REAL) Golden Age existed (they CONFUSE & CONFOUND the REAL G A, established by REAL Ram or God in the very beginning of the Cycle, with the FALSE ‘g a’, established by FALSE or APPARENT Ram or Ravan, in the very beginning of C A). You too have taken many years to understand this. How much would someone understand in just two days? (or even 2 years for some, or even 2 decades for many others)? The Father explains everything to you very simply. He is the unlimited Father. Everyone (ALL the RIGHTEOUS Children) should definitely receive an inheritance from Him (while the UNRIGHTEOUS children receive an inheritance from Ravan or Maya, whom they DELUSIVELY CONSIDER to be their Mother-Father or ‘APPARENT’ ‘ShivBaba’).

अब इस समय इस तन में दो मूर्ति हैं। ब्रह्मा की आत्मा और शिव परम आत्मा। इस समय दो मूर्ति इकट्ठी हैं - ब्रह्मा और शिवशंकर तो कभी पार्ट में आता नहीं। बाकी विष्णु सतयुग में है। अभी तुम ब्राह्मण सो देवता बनेंगे। हम सो का अर्थ वास्तव में यह है। उन्होंने कह दिया है - आत्मा सो परमात्मा। परमात्मा सो आत्मा। कितना फ़र्क है। रावण के आने से ही रावण की मत शुरू हो गई।
Now, AT THIS TIME, there are two IMAGES ('MURTIS') in THIS body. There is the soul of Brahma and the Supreme Soul, Shiv. AT THIS TIME two IMAGES ('MURTIS') are TOGETHER - Brahma and Shiva. Shankar NEVER comes to play a part, while Vishnu exists in the Golden Age. You are now Brahmins and you then become deities. In fact, this is the meaning of “Hum so, so hum”. They have said that a soul is the Supreme Soul and that the Supreme Soul is a soul. There is so much DIFFERENCE! Ravan’s dictates begin as soon as he comes.

Now, AT THIS TIME, there are two IMAGES in THIS body (the ‘SOUL’ is referred to as an ‘image’, and the word 'murti' or 'image' DOES NOT IMPLY that an ‘image’ ONLY refers to a bodily form, EITHER corporeal or subtle). There is the soul of Brahma and the Supreme Soul, Shiv. AT THIS TIME two IMAGES are TOGETHER - Brahma and Shiva (these are the ‘images’ of ‘souls’ and NOT the ‘images’ of either GROSS or SUBTLE bodies - as TREACHEROUSLY PROPAGATED by Ravan or Maya through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan). Shankar NEVER comes to play a part (on this CORPOREAL sphere, in a CORPOREAL body - and this is COMPLETELY CONTRARY to the TREACHEROUS propagation of Ravan or Maya through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan), while Vishnu exists in the Golden Age (and NOT in this Confluence Age). You are now Brahmins and you then become deities. In fact, this is the meaning of “Hum so, so hum”. They (the BLIND followers of Ravan or Maya) have said (as TREACHEROUSLY propagated through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan) that a soul is the Supreme Soul and that the Supreme Soul is a soul (they consider the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan to be the ‘Supreme Soul’ among all embodied souls). There is so much DIFFERENCE! Ravan’s dictates begin as soon as he comes (AS SOON AS, REAL ShivBaba or God comes INCOGNITO into the body of REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, Ravan or Maya ALSO utilizes the PREVIOUS corporeal body of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, INCOGNITO, IN THE VERY BEGINNING of the Yagya. Ravan then utilizes the VERY SAME soul, in his CURRENT corporeal body, as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, to carry out the 'shooting' of Ravan Rajya, and manifests in more EVIDENT form, after Brahma Baba becomes Avyakt in 1969).
(These occurrences are depicted allegorically, to a certain extent in the movie,
‘The TERMINATOR’, and to a larger extent in the movie, ‘The MATRIX’, including its two subsequent sequels
.)
(IN THE ORIGINAL UNCORRUPTED PRINCIPLE, 'Trimurti' REFERS TO THE THREE PRINCIPAL SOULS INVOLVED IN THIS ETERNAL WORLD DRAMA -
1) SOUL OF SUPREME Father Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba or GOD;
2) SOUL OF REAL PRAJAPITA BRAHMA, BRAHMA BABA, SOUL OF DLR, REAL ADI DEV; and
3) SOUL OF REAL JAGADAMBA, Saraswati Mama, SOUL OF OM RADHE, REAL ADI DEVI).

योग अग्नि से पाप भस्म होंगे। गंगा स्नान से नहीं होंगे। बाबा कहते हैं माया ने तुमको फूल (मूर्ख) बना दिया है, अप्रैल फूल कहते हैं ना।
Sins are burnt away through the fire of Yoga, not by bathing in the Ganges. The Father says: Maya has made you into FOOLS. They speak of APRIL fools.

Sins are burnt away through the fire of Yoga (ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED REMEMBRANCE), not by bathing in the Ganges (representing the EXHAUSTIVE INVOLVEMENT or 'BATHING' of the INTELLECT with the CORRUPTED & ADULTERATED versions of FALSE ‘Ram’, APPARENT ‘ShivBaba’ or Ravan, propagated through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan - MANIPULATED from the PURE Knowledge of REAL Ram, REAL ShivBaba or God, spoken through His ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR). The Father says: Maya has made you (ALL the UNRIGHTEOUS children) into FOOLS. They speak of APRIL (those who ‘APE PERIL’ or follow the PERILOUS dictates of Ravan BLINDLY, like STUPID APES) fools.

परलौकिक बाप मोस्ट सिम्पल हैं। कोई ठाठ-बाठ नहीं। वह बाप तो मोटरों में, एरोप्लेन में घूमते हैं।
The Father from beyond is MOST SIMPLE; He doesn’t have any external splendour. That Father tours around in cars and planes.

The Father from beyond is MOST SIMPLE; He doesn’t have any external splendour. That Father tours around in cars and planes. (the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, tours around in cars and planes these daysCLEAR ‘shooting’ of Ravan Rajya)
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BKWSU SM, Revised 08.02.2016 wrote: "बाबा फिर से आ गया है इस शरीर में। शिव जयन्ती भी मनाते हैं तो जरूर आते हैं। ऐसे भी नहीं कहेंगे मैं कृष्ण के तन में आता हूँ। नहीं। बाप कहते हैं कृष्ण की आत्मा ने 84 जन्म लिए हैं। उनके बहुत जन्मों के अन्त का यह अन्तिम जन्म है। जो पहले नम्बर में था वह अब अन्त में है ततत्वम्। मैं तो आता हूँ साधारण तन में। तुमको आकर बतलाता हूँ - तुमने कैसे 84 जन्म भोगे हैं।"
"Baba has once again (like one CYCLE ago) come into THIS body (IMPURE, ORDINARY body of DLR). People celebrate the birthday of Shiva, and so He definitely comes. He doesn’t say that He enters the body of Krishna (PURE, ROYAL body of the SAME SOUL of DLR, in G A). NO! The Father says: The soul of Krishna (soul of DLR) has taken 84 births. THIS (IMPURE, ORDINARY body of DLR) is the last of his many births. The ONE (soul of DLR, in his PURE, ROYAL body, in G A, as Shri Krishna) who was NUMBER ONE, is now at the end of his last birth; and the same applies to you. I enter an ORDINARY BODY (IMPURE body of DLR). I come and tell you how you have experienced 84 births."

ShivBaba or God DOES NOT ENTER the VERY FIRST, ROYAL PURE CORPOREAL BODY of the FIRST PRINCE of G A, Shri Krishna, but ShivBaba or God ENTERS the VERY LAST, ORDINARY IMPURE CORPOREAL BODY of the VERY SAME SOUL, of Shri Krishna, (who is NUMBER ONE among ALL EMBODIED SOULS within this EWD); and this VERY LAST ORDINARY IMPURE CORPOREAL BODY is that of DLR, who is the REAL Prajapita Brahma or REAL Brahma, and is addressed as ‘Brahma Baba’ or as just ‘Baba’.
The words ‘ORDINARY BODY’ have been used by ShivBaba or God to compare the VERY LAST ORDINARY IMPURE CORPOREAL BODY of DLR or Brahma Baba, with his VERY OWN, VERY FIRST ROYAL PURE CORPOREAL BODY in the G A, as Shri Krishna; and NOT to COMPARE with any other corporeal body in
I A or even Confluence Age
, as TREACHEROUSLY PROPAGATED by Ravan or Maya, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, instrumental to carry out the ‘shooting’ or Ravan Rajya in Confluence Age. Also, ShivBaba or God has CLEARLY DECLARED the soul of DLR, or Shri Krishna of G A, to be NUMBER ONE within this EWD - which is again TOTALLY CONTRARY to the TREACHEROUS PROPAGATION of Ravan or Maya, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, instrumental to carry out the ‘shooting’ or Ravan Rajya in Confluence Age.

"तुम भी समझते हो बाबा स्वर्ग की स्थापना करने वाला है तो हम क्यों नहीं स्वर्ग में होंगे, बाप से हम वर्सा जरूर लेंगे - तो इससे सिद्ध होता है यह हमारे धर्म का है। जो नहीं होगा वह आयेगा ही नहीं। कहेंगे पराये धर्म में क्यों जायें।"
"You also understand that Baba is the One who establishes Heaven, so why would we not be in Heaven? We will definitely claim our inheritance from the Father. This proves that that person belongs to our religion. Those (the UNRIGHTEOUS children) who don't belong here will not even come here. They (the UNRIGHTEOUS children) would say: Why should we go into another religion?"

The BLIND FOLLOWERS [ of Ravan or Maya, MASQUERADING as (APPARENT) ‘ShivBaba’ or (FALSE) ‘Prajapita Brahma’, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan ], DO NOT BELONG to the RIGHTEOUS CLAN, and hence would not, or CANNOT EVEN go among them, since they BELONG to ANOTHER RELIGION or IDEOLOGY ALTOGETHER; although utilising the VERY SAME points of the SMs and AVs (or the PURE VERSIONS spoken by REAL ShivBaba or God through His ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR), to propagate their PERVERTED philosophy - BUT ONLY after COMPLETELY ADULTERATING & CORRUPTING them, to be in ACCURATE CONSONANCE with the CORRUPTED & DISTORTED CONCEPTS of Ravan Rajya, (so as to be instrumental to carry out the ‘shooting’ of Ravan Rajya in Confluence Age).

"तो गरीब-निवाज़ निराकार भगवान को ही मानेंगे, कृष्ण को नहीं मानेंगे। कृष्ण तो धनवान सतयुग का प्रिन्स बनते हैं। भगवान को तो अपना शरीर है नहीं। वह आकर तुम बच्चों को धनवान बनाते हैं, तुमको राजयोग की शिक्षा देते हैं। पढाई से बैरिस्टर आदि बनकर फिर कमाई करते हैं। बाप भी तुमको अभी पढाते हैं। तुम भविष्य में नर से नारायण बनते हो। तुम्हारा जन्म तो होगा ना। ऐसे तो नहीं स्वर्ग कोई समुद्र से निकल आयेगा। कृष्ण ने भी जन्म लिया ना। कंसपुरी आदि तो उस समय थी नहीं। कृष्ण का कितना नाम गाया जाता है। उनके बाप का गायन ही नहीं। उनका बाप कहाँ है? जरूर कृष्ण किसी का बच्चा होगा ना। कृष्ण जब जन्म लेते हैं तब थोड़े बहुत पतित भी रहते हैं। जब वह बिल्कुल खत्म हो जाते हैं तब वह गद्दी पर बैठते हैं। अपना राज्य ले लेते हैं, तब से ही उनका संवत शुरू होता है। लक्ष्मी-नारायण से ही संवत शुरू होता है।"
(You would NOW believe that) "ONLY incorporeal God (REAL ShivBaba), and not Krishna (soul of DLR), is the Lord of the Poor. Krishna was a wealthy prince of the Golden Age. God doesn't have a body of His own. He comes and makes you Children wealthy. He GIVES YOU THE TEACHINGS of Raja Yoga. One becomes a barrister, etc., through study, and then earns an income. The Father too is NOW TEACHING you (the RIGHTEOUS Children). In the future you will become Narayan from an ORDINARY (IMPURE body of a) human. You will take birth, is it not? It is not that Heaven would emerge from the ocean. Krishna too took birth, is it not? There was NO land of Kans, etc., at that time. The name of ‘Krishna’ is remembered so much! His father (bodily father) is NOT remembered. Where is his (bodily) father? Krishna would definitely be someone's child. When Krishna takes birth, there are STILL A FEW IMPURE ONES as well (the physical body of Krishna’s bodily father is IMPURE, when Krishna takes birth). When all of them completely LEAVE, he (soul of DLR, as Krishna) sits on the throne and claims his (soul of DLR, as the VERY FIRST Narayan) Kingdom. His era (period) begins from that time. That era (period) begins with Lakshmi and Narayan."

REAL ShivBaba or God TEACHES through His ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, when in his corporeal body, prior 1969, (and continues to sustain the RIGHTEOUS Children through the subtle body of Brahma Baba, after 1969, to date) - which is again TOTALLY CONTRARY to the TREACHEROUS PROPAGATION of Ravan or Maya, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, instrumental to carry out the ‘shooting’ or Ravan Rajya in Confluence Age.
The physical or bodily father, of Shri Krishna of G A, is NOT remembered, because he was NOT AS CLEVER as the soul of DLR or Shri Krishna, in Confluence Age, and therefore only becomes an ordinary SERVANT, as an instrument ONLY, to give corporeal birth to the NUMBER ONE ROYAL soul of Shri Krishna of G A - which is again TOTALLY CONTRARY to the TREACHEROUS PROPAGATION of Ravan or Maya, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, instrumental to carry out the ‘shooting’ or Ravan Rajya in Confluence Age.
The ERA of ‘Satyug’ or G A BEGINS with the CORONATION of FIRST PAIR of L & N. During the intervening period BETWEEN the birth of Shri Krishna of G A and the coronation of Shri Krishna, as the FIRST EMPEROR of G A, souls with IMPURE bodies, WITH CORRESPONDING DEGREE OF PURITY, still remain – they LEAVE gradually, until the LAST of them leave, when Shri Krishna sits on the throne, as the VERY FIRST Narayan of G A. ALL these aspects are TOTALLY CONTRARY to the TREACHEROUS PROPAGATION of Ravan or Maya, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, instrumental to carry out the ‘shooting’ of Ravan Rajya in Confluence Age.
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BKWSU SM, Revised 03.02.2016 wrote: यहाँ तुम आपस में सिर्फ ब्राह्मण ही ब्राह्मण हो। ब्राह्मणों को बेहद का बाप पढाते हैं। यह ब्रह्मा नहीं पढाते हैं। शिवबाबा पढाते हैं ब्रह्मा द्वारा। ब्राह्मणों को ही पढाते हैं। शूद्र से ब्राह्मण बनने बिगर देवी-देवता बन नहीं सकेंगे। वर्सा शिवबाबा से मिलता है। वह शिवबाबा तो सबका बाप है। इस ब्रह्मा को ग्रेट ग्रेट ग्रैन्ड फादर कहा जाता है। लौकिक बाप तो सबको होते हैं। पारलौकिक बाप को भक्ति मार्ग में याद करते हैं। अब तुम बच्चे समझते हो यह है अलौकिक बाप जिनको कोई नहीं जानते। भल ब्रह्मा का मन्दिर है, यहाँ भी प्रजापिता आदि देव का मन्दिर है। उनको कोई महावीर कहते हैं, दिलवाला भी कहते हैं। परन्तु वास्तव में दिल लेने वाला है शिवबाबा, न कि प्रजापिता आदि देव ब्रह्मा। सब आत्माओं को सदा सुखी बनाने वाला, खुश करने वाला एक ही बाप है। यह भी सिर्फ तुम ही जानते हो। दुनिया में तो मनुष्य कुछ नहीं जानते। तुच्छ बुद्धि हैं। हम ब्राह्मण ही शिवबाबा से वर्सा ले रहे हैं। तुम भी यह घड़ी-घड़ी भूल जाते हो। याद है बड़ी सहज। योग अक्षर सन्यासियों ने रखा है। तुम तो बाप को याद करते हो। योग कॉमन अक्षर है। इनको योग आश्रम भी नहीं कहेंगे, बच्चे और बाप बैठे हैं। बच्चों का फर्ज है - बेहद के बाप को याद करना। हम ब्राह्मण हैं, डाडे से वर्सा ले रहे हैं ब्रह्मा द्वारा इसलिए शिवबाबा कहते हैं जितना हो सके याद करते रहो। चित्र भी भल रखो तो याद रहेगी।

HERE, there are ONLY YOU Brahmins. The UNLIMITED Father is TEACHING YOU Brahmins. This Brahma is not teaching you. ShivBaba is TEACHING YOU THROUGH Brahma. He, ONLY TEACHES, YOU Brahmins. One cannot become a deity from a ‘Shudra’ without first becoming a Brahmin. You receive your inheritance from ShivBaba. That ShivBaba is the Father of all. This Brahma is called the great-great-grandfather. Everyone has a worldly Father. Everyone on the path of devotion remembers the ‘PARLOKIK’ Father (from beyond this world). You children now understand that THIS ONE is the ‘ALOKIK’ (subtle) Father whom NO ONE KNOWS. Although there is a temple to Brahma, there is also a temple to Prajapita Adi Dev here, whom some people call Mahavir and also Dilwala. In fact, it is Shiv Baba, not Prajapita Brahma, Adi Dev, who is the true Dilwala (the Conqueror of Hearts). It is only the one Father who makes all souls constantly happy and brings them joy. ONLY YOU know this. People of the world don't know anything; they have degraded intellects. ONLY we Brahmins are receiving our inheritance from ShivBaba. Even you repeatedly forget this. Remembrance is very easy. Sannyasis have kept the word "Yoga". You simply remember the Father. The word "Yoga" is common. This place cannot be called a ‘Yoga ashram’ because it is the Father and Children who are sitting here. It is the children's duty to remember their UNLIMITED Father. We are Brahmins and we are receiving our Grandfather's (Dade’s) inheritance through Brahma. This is why Shiv Baba says: Stay in as much remembrance as possible. You may even keep a picture so that you can remember.
"HERE (in FRONT of REAL ShivBaba or God, through His ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, FACE to FACE in ‘Sakar’, prior 1969), there are ONLY YOU Brahmins (RIGHTEOUS Children – POTENTIAL PRINCIPAL sovereigns of G A and S A). The UNLIMITED Father (REAL ShivBaba or God) is TEACHING YOU Brahmins (RIGHTEOUS Childrenand this is CONTRARY to the propagation of Ravan or Maya through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, who TRICKS the BLIND followers into DELUSIVELY BELIEVING that REAL ShivBaba or God does not teach through His ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR). This Brahma (REAL Prajapita Brahma or soul of DLR) is not teaching you. ShivBaba (or God Himself) is TEACHING YOU (the RIGHTEOUS Children) THROUGH Brahma (REAL Prajapita Brahma or soul of DLR). He, ONLY TEACHES, YOU Brahmins (God ONLY TEACHES the RIGHTEOUS Children, through His ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR; whereas, Ravan or Maya, MASQUERADING as APPARENT 'ShivBaba' and FALSE 'Prajapita Brahma, teaches the UNRIGHTEOUS children through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan). One cannot become a Deity from a ‘Shudra’ without first becoming a (TRUE) Brahmin (WHEREAS, the UNRIGHTEOUS children are FALSE Brahmins – carrying out the ‘shooting’ of ‘Kukhvanshavali’ Brahmins of the outer world, in Confluence Age - WHILE DELUSIVELY BELIEVING that they are 'Mukhvanshavali'). You receive your inheritance from (REAL) ShivBaba (or God – through His ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL Prajapita Brahma or soul of DLR, in ‘Sakar’ until 1969, and in ‘Akar’ to date). That (REAL) ShivBaba (or God) is the Father of all (souls). THIS Brahma (REAL Prajapita Brahma, REAL Adi Dev, REAL Adam or soul of DLR) is called the great-great-grandfather. Everyone has a worldly Father (of the physical body). Everyone on the path of devotion remembers the ‘PARLOKIK’ Father (REAL ShivBaba or God - from beyond this world). You (RIGHTEOUS) Children now understand that THIS ONE (REAL Prajapita Brahma, REAL Adi Dev, REAL Adam or soul of DLR) is the ‘ALOKIK’ (subtle) Father, whom NO ONE KNOWS (the UNRIGHTEOUS children DO NOT accept soul of DLR as Father, but only as an ‘ABSTRACT’ Mother, with whom they CANNOT relate, since they CANNOT DEVELOP their ‘Avyakt’ consciousness; and hence have NO OPTION but to relate to Ravan or Maya through ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, as their ‘Sakar’ father, since they are STILL TRAPPED in body-consciousness, owing to BLINDLY following the CORRUPTED DICTATES of Ravan - DELUSIVELY BELIEVING that they are following the Shrimat of REAL ShivBaba). Although there is a temple to Brahma, there is also a temple to Prajapita, Adi Dev here, (REAL Prajapita Brama or REAL Adi Dev is Brahma Baba or the soul of DLR), whom some people call Mahavir and also Dilwala. In fact, it is ShivBaba (or God), not Prajapita Brahma, Adi Dev, (Brahma Baba or soul of DLR) who is the true Dilwala (the Conqueror of Hearts). It is only the one Father (REAL ShivBaba or God) who makes all souls constantly happy and brings them joy. ONLY YOU (ONLY the RIGHTEOUS Children) know this. People of the world (the UNRIGHTEOUS children or FALSE Brahmins, during the ‘shooting’ period in Confluence Age, representing the 'Kukhvanshavali' Brahmins of the outer world) don't know anything; they (the UNRIGHTEOUS children) have DEGRADED intellects. ONLY we Brahmins (ONLY the RIGHTEOUS Children) are receiving our inheritance from (REAL) ShivBaba (or God; the UNRIGHTEOUS children receive their inheritance from Ravan or Maya, MASQUERADING as APPARENT ‘ShivBaba’ and FALSE ‘Prajapita Brahma’, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan). Even you repeatedly forget this. Remembrance is very easy. Sanyasis have kept the word "Yoga". You simply remember the Father (REAL ShivBaba or God – UNADULTERATED with ANY FORM of any embodied soul, either GROSS or SUBTLE). The word "Yoga" is common. This place cannot be called a ‘Yoga ashram’ because it is the Father (REAL ShivBaba or God) and (RIGHTEOUS) Children who are sitting HERE (in FRONT of REAL ShivBaba, through His ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, FACE to FACE in ‘Sakar’, prior 1969). It is the Children's duty to remember their UNLIMITED Father (REAL ShivBaba or God). We are Brahmins and we are receiving our Grandfather's (REAL ShivBaba or God’s - Dade’s – ‘d’ pronounced as in ‘day’) inheritance through Brahma (REAL Prajapita Brahma, REAL Adi Dev, REAL Adam, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR). This is why ShivBaba says: Stay in as much (ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED) remembrance as possible. You may even keep a picture (ONLY as long as you STILL REMAIN TRAPPED in gross body-consciousness, OR for the benefit of new souls, OR for the purpose of giving INTRODUCTION) so that you can remember (this is just an INITIAL technique advocated by God, during the INTERIM PERIOD ONLY, to facilitate EVENTUAL ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED remembrance, when the CONCERNED souls are able to develop a SUBTLE consciousness, and FINALLY a ‘SEED’ consciousness – NUMBER-WISE)".

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BKWSU - BapDada Avyakt Milan 12.02.2016 wrote: ... साकार रूप में बाप और बच्चे का यह मिलन कितना प्यारा लग रहा है। ...
... This MEETING of the Father and the Children in corporeal form is so LOVING. ...

... यह बाप और बच्चों का मिलन या आत्मा परमात्मा का मिलन कितना अमूल्य है। ...
... This MEETING of the Father and the Children or the MEETING of soul and Supreme Soul is so INVALUABLE. ...
From the above it becomes EVIDENT that in the Confluence Age there are THREE main CATEGORIES of souls, who are associated with, or related to the Knowledge, revealed to Humanity, by the Supreme Soul or God.

CATEGORY ONE: Those souls who are CLEARLY AWARE of the Supreme Soul or God, in the above MEETING, and have ABSOLUTELY NO DOUBT WHATSOEVER that they are, IN FACT, MEETING God Himself, through the subtle body of Brahma Baba, and the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar.
Such souls have developed a relatively HIGH degree of soul-consciousness, (although STILL NUMBER-WISE), and are CLOSE to their ‘SEED’ stage, through their concerted spiritual efforts in the Confluence Age, and are therefore afforded the HIGHEST ABILITY of EXPERIENCING above LOVING and INVALUABLE MEETING with GodDIRECTLY – as a SOUL, with the Supreme Soul - WITHOUT EXPERIENCING any CONSTRAINTS of either their CORPOREAL or SUBTLE bodies!

CATEGORY TWO: Those souls who are only VAGUELY AWARE of the Supreme Soul or God, in the above MEETING, although they have NO DOUBT that they are, IN FACT, MEETING God Himself, through the subtle body of Brahma Baba, and the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar.
Such souls have developed a relatively LOWER degree of soul-consciousness, (NUMBER-WISE), and are only CLOSE to their ‘SUBTLE’ stage, through their dedicated spiritual efforts in the Confluence Age, and are therefore afforded ONLY a LIMITED ABILITY of EXPERIENCING above LOVING and INVALUABLE MEETING with God – and that too ONLY INDIRECTLY – THROUGH an embodied soul or souls, either in a SUBTLE or a CORPOREAL form, owing to the RESIDUAL CONSTRAINTS of their SUBTLE or GROSS consciousness!

CATEGORY THREE: Those souls who are COMPLETELY UNAWARE of the Supreme Soul or God, in the above MEETING, and therefore TOTALLY DOUBT that anyone can, IN FACT, MEET God Himself, through the subtle body of Brahma Baba, and the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar.
Such souls are STILL TRAPPED in a HIGH degree of body-consciousness, (NUMBER-WISE), owing to the LACK of adequate spiritual efforts in the Confluence Age, and are therefore NOT afforded the PRIVILEGE of EXPERIENCING above LOVING and INVALUABLE MEETING with GodEITHER 'DIRECTLY' or INDIRECTLYowing to the SEVERE CONSTRAINTS of their GROSS body-consciousness!

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Also in the Avyakt Milan of 31.12.2015, BapDada have clarified the significance of an Avyakt MEETING, while the children are in a 'sakari' consciousness.

"हर एक के नयन इस मिलन में इतने खुश हैं जो हर एक समझता है कि यह साकार दुनिया में साकार रूप में बाप और बच्चों का मिलन वन्डरफुल है। हर एक की दिल कह रही है वाह बाबा वाह! हमने तो सोचा नहीं कि ऐसे बाबा का मिलन हो सकता है, यह मिलन तो बहुत-बहुत-बहुत प्यारा है। यह मिलन तो स्वप्न में भी न था कि ऐसे मिलन हो सकता है। लेकिन यह बाप और बच्चों का मिलन, बच्चे बाप को देखकर प्रसन्न हो गये, वाह बाबा वाह! और बाप भी एक-एक बच्चे को देख कितना खुश हो रहा है, वाह! वाह! वाह! की धुन चल रही है। हर एक के खुशी की लहर, उनकी शक्ल पर चमक रही है। सबके मुख से यही आवाज निकल रहा है वाह बाबा वाह! आज तो आपने मिलन का स्वरूप अनुभव करा दिया।"
"In this meeting, everyone’s eyes are so happy, as each one understands that to celebrate a meeting between the Father and the children in the corporeal world in a corporeal form is so wonderful! Each one’s heart is saying, “Wah Baba! Wah!” We never thought that we could have such a meeting with Baba: this meeting is very, very, very lovely. We never even dreamt that we could have such a meeting. However, in this meeting of the Father and the children, the children are happy to see the Father, “Wah Baba! Wah!”, and the Father is also very pleased to see each of you children. The chant of “Wah! Wah! Wah!” is continuing. The wave of happiness in each one of you is sparkling on your faces. The sound emerging from everyone’s lips is, “Wah Baba! Wah!” Today, You gave us the experience of being the embodiment of the MEETING."

"तो आज सभी के मन में बाप और बच्चे का अव्यक्ति मिलन क्या होता है, वह अनुभव सभी बच्चों को बापदादा करा रहे हैं। सभी ने किया, यह मिलन। साधारण बात नहीं है। यह मिलन के भाग्य को लेना, यह हर एक को मिलता है। लेकिन मिले हुए भाग्य को अनुभव में लाना, यह अनुभव भले इतने सारे हैं लेकिन रीयल में अनुभव करना, यह भाग्य की बात है। तो आज बापदादा ऐसे बच्चों का भाग्य देख रहे हैं कि कैसे दिल से मिलन मना रहे हैं, याद करते थे गीत गाके लेकिन अभी गीत क्या मिलन मना रहे हैं। यह भी हर एक का भाग्य है, जो यह भाग्य साकार में यहाँ प्राप्त होने का भाग्य है। ऐसा भाग्य भाग्यशाली ही प्राप्त करता है।
तो बापदादा आज का मिलन देख बहुत खुश है कि बच्चे साकार में मिलन मनाने का अनुभव कर रहे हैं। हर एक के मन में कौन समाया हुआ है? बाबा। मेरा बाबा, प्यारा बाबा।"
"So, today in everyone’s mind is: What is the Avyakt meeting between the Father and the children? BapDada is giving all of you children this experience today. Did everyone experience this meeting? It is not an ordinary matter. Each one receives a chance to claim the fortune of a meeting, but to put the fortune you have received into your experience, even though you may have had many of these experiences – but to experience it in reality is a matter of fortune. So, today, BapDada is seeing the fortune of such children and seeing how you are celebrating a meeting with the heart. You used to remember by singing songs, but now, it’s not about singing songs, but you are actually celebrating a meeting. This too is each one’s fortune. It is a matter of fortune to receive this fortune in the corporeal form. Only the fortunate ones receive such fortune.
Seeing today’s meeting, BapDada is very pleased that the children are experiencing celebrating a meeting in the corporeal form. Who is merged in each one’s mind? Baba, my Baba, lovely Baba."

SOULS WHO ARE ACTUALLY IN CATEGORY THREE, BUT ARE NOT AWARE THAT THEY ARE IN CATEGORY THREE, ARE CONSIDERED by REAL ShivBaba or God to be 'MURKH' - SPIRITUAL FOOLS or SPIRITUAL IDIOTS!

SOULS WHO ARE ACTUALLY IN CATEGORY THREE, BUT ARE PRONE TO DELUSIVELY BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE IN CATEGORY TWO OR CATEGORY ONE, OWING TO THE OVERWHELMING INFLUENCE OF THEIR 'Bhakti SANSKARS', TRIGGERED & SUSTAINED BY BODILY GURUS, IN THE Confluence Age, ARE CONSIDERED by REAL ShivBaba or God to be 'MAHA-MURKH' - ABSOLUTE SPIRITUAL FOOLS or ABSOLUTE SPIRITUAL IDIOTS!!!
THE REASON BEING THAT THEY ARROGANTLY PREFER TO STUBBORNLY HOLD ON TO THEIR BLIND BELIEFS, WITHOUT ACTUAL SPIRITUAL EXPERIENCES TO JUSTIFY or VERIFY THOSE BLIND BELIEFS!!!

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BKWSU SM, Revised 17.02.2016 wrote: ... परमपिता परमात्मा ही आकर रूहों को समझाते हैं कि मुझे याद करो तो खाद निकल जायेगी। ...
... Only the Supreme Father Supreme Soul, COMES and explains to souls: Remember ME and the alloy will be removed. ...

... योगबल से फिर ऐसे लक्ष्मी-नारायण बनते हैं। लक्ष्मी-नारायण सो आदि देव, आदि देवी। चतुर्भुज में लक्ष्मी-नारायण दोनों आ जाते हैं। दो भुजायें लक्ष्मी की, दो नारायण की। यह भी भारतवासी नहीं जानते हैं। महालक्ष्मी की 4 भुजायें हैं, इसका मतलब ही है वे युगल हैं। विष्णु है ही चतुर्भुज। ...
... You then become like Lakshmi and Narayan through the power of Yoga. Lakshmi and Narayan are Adi Devi and Adi Dev. BOTH Lakshmi and Narayan are included in ‘Chaturbuj’ (the four-armed image); two arms are Lakshmi’s and two are Narayan’s. The people of Bharat don’t even understand this much. Mahalakshmi has four arms. This means this represents a couple. Vishnu is thus ‘Chaturbuj’ (four-armed). ...
From the above it becomes EVIDENT that, in the latter part of the Confluence Age, there are TWO main IDEOLOGIES, which are associated with, or related to the Knowledge, revealed to Humanity, by the Supreme Father Supreme Soul or God.

IDEOLOGY ONE:
ONLY the (ONE) Supreme Father Supreme Soul (REAL ShivBaba or God), COMES and explains to souls: Remember ME (ALONE – ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED remembrance) and (ONLY THEN) the alloy will be removed.

These RIGHTEOUS Children CLEARLY understand and EXPERIENCE that the term ‘Supreme Father Supreme Soul’ refers to ONLY ONE REAL ShivBaba or God – (COMPLETELY UNADULTERATED with ANY OTHER embodied soul, either in a CORPOREAL or SUBTLE form) – who COMES and advises embodied souls to “remember ME”, or remember HIM ALONE, and NONE OTHER!

You (the RIGHTEOUS Children) then become like Lakshmi and Narayan through the power of ‘Yoga’ (ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED remembrance). Lakshmi and Narayan are Adi Devi and Adi Dev (soul of JagatPita, Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or DLR & soul of JagatAmba, Saraswati, Mama or Om Radhe). Both Lakshmi and Narayan are included in ‘Chaturbuj’ (the four-armed image); two arms are Lakshmi’s and two are Narayan’s (but the souls are ONLY TWO – soul of Brahma Baba or DLR & soul of Mama or Om Radhe). The people of Bharat (the UNRIGHTEOUS children, in the ‘shooting’ period of Ravan Rajya in Confluence Age) don’t even understand this much. Mahalakshmi has four arms. This means this represents a couple. Vishnu is thus ‘Chaturbuj’ (four-armed).

These RIGHTEOUS Children CLEARLY understand that the terms ‘Chaturbuj’, Mahalakshmi & Vishnu are ABSOLUTELY SYNONYMOUS, representing the TWO ARMS EACH of REAL Adi Dev & Adi Devi, Adam & Eve, JagatPita & JagatAmba - Brahma Baba & Saraswati Mama, or the souls of DLR & Om Radhe; and the RITHEOUS Children receive PRACTICAL sustenance from these souls - first in ‘Sakar’, until 1965/1969, when they themselves are in ‘Sakari’ or CORPOREAL consciousness; and then in ‘Akar’, to date, when they themselves develop their ‘Akari’ or SUBTLE consciousness, NUMBER-WISE!

IDEOLOGY TWO:
ONLY the (ONE) Supreme Father Supreme Soul (REAL ShivBaba or God), COMES and explains to souls: Remember ME (ALONE – ACCURATE & UNADULTERTED remembrance) and (ONLY THEN) the alloy will be removed.

These UNRIGHTEOUS children BIFURCATE the term ‘Surpeme Father Supreme Soul’ to imply that 'Supreme Father' refers to Shiva or God, and 'Supreme Soul' refers to the embodied soul, through whom they ‘BELIEVE’ that 'Supreme Father' gives clarification of the Knowledge, originally spoken through Brahma Baba, ‘CONSIDERED’ by them to be the so-called advanced knowledge, and they ‘CONSIDER’ the combination of these two souls as ‘ShivBaba’ – (thus COMPLETELY ADULTERATING REAL ShivBaba or God with an embodied soul, in a CORPOREAL form) – WITHOUT REAL-EYEsing that God COMES (on the corporeal sphere - whereas the concerned embodied soul is already on the corporeal sphere) and advises embodied souls to “remember ME” or remember HIM ALONE, and NONE OTHER (NO OTHER embodied soul – either in a CORPOREAL or SUBTLE form)!

You (the RIGHTEOUS Children) then become like Lakshmi and Narayan through the power of ‘Yoga’ (ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED remembrance). Lakshmi and Narayan are Adi Devi and Adi Dev (soul of JagatPita, Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or DLR & soul of JagatAmba, Saraswati, Mama or Om Radhe). Both Lakshmi and Narayan are included in ‘Chaturbuj’ (the four-armed image); two arms are Lakshmi’s and two are Narayan’s (but the souls are ONLY TWO – soul of Brahma Baba or DLR & soul of Mama or Om Radhe). The people of Bharat (the UNRIGHTEOUS children, in the ‘shooting’ period of Ravan Rajya in Confluence Age) don’t even understand this much. Mahalakshmi has four arms. This means this represents a couple. Vishnu is thus ‘Chaturbuj’ (four-armed).

These UNRIGHTEOUS children SYSTEMATICALLY CORRUPT the terms ‘Chaturbuj’, Mahalakshmi & Vishnu, and imply that the FOUR ARMS represent four DIFFERENT souls, in Confluence Age, who are controlled by the soul of their bodily guru - who is ACTUALLY instrumental to carry out the ‘shooting’ of Ravan Rajya, SPECIFICALLY in the latter part of Confluence Age, being the ‘mukrar-rath’ or CHIEF instrument of Ravan or Maya, MASQUERADING as (APPARENT) ‘ShivBaba’ and (FALSE) ‘Prajapita Brahma’, etc., ALL, PERFECTLY, AS PER DRAMA PLAN!

Depending on our 'belief & faith’, understanding & ACTUAL experience, so will be our INCULCATION, number-wise, to reach our desired destination!
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