arjun wrote:There is no confusion for those who have undergone the proper Advance Course and have faith in ShivBaba.
There is nothing special in this usual intellectually vacuous statement
AT ALL! Every
BLIND believer will ardently feel or vehemently state
EXACTLY the same, as a spontaneous compulsive defensive measure, since (s)he has full faith and no confusion in what (s)he believes
BLINDLY!
In the Outer World, a STAUNCH Christian BELIEVER will DEFINITELY consider (s)he has carried out ADVANCED STUDIES in the Bible, and have FULL FAITH in Jesus Christ to be the
ONE and ONLY BEGOTTEN SON of GOD -
PERIOD! Such BLIND BELIEVERS consider the main Teachings of Christ in the Bible to be the TRUE, AUTHENTIC, ORIGINAL, UNCORRUPTED, EXCLUSIVE and ABSOLUTE WORD of GOD - meant for the benefit of ENTIRE HUMANITY - ALL OTHER NON-BELIEVERS being DOOMED to DESTRUCTION and DESOLATION! Can anyone make them BELIEVE OTHERWISE - OTHER THAN DESTRUCTION ITSELF???
SIMILAR PATTERN would apply to a STAUNCH Muslim BELIEVER . . . a STAUNCH Buddhist BELIEVER . . . etc., etc., etc.
So what you BELIEVE to be FAITH in YOUR 'ShivBaba', is NOTHING but the plain 'SHOOTING' of Bhakti Marg or the Path of Devotion, as ALREADY AMPLY HIGHLIGHTED in various topics and posts on this forum, which you
STUBBORNLY & ARROGANTLY DO NOT BOTHER OR CARE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION AT ALL, i.e.
YOU DELIBERATELY CHOOSE TO REMAIN COMPLETELY BLIND TO THEM, as is the case with ALL OTHER RELIGIOUS IDEOLOGIES of the Outer Broad Drama!
The AMBIGUITY with regard to ShivBaba not entering a 'pure virgin', what this ACTUALLY means, whom does it apply to, where does it apply, etc., etc., have ALREADY been AMPLY CLARIFIED on this forum, providing CLEAR points from Avyakt Vanis, where it is ABSOLUTELY CLEAR that God meets souls in 'Avyakt' through the instrumental body of DG. But, AS USUAL, the BLIND PBKs choose to pay SCANT REGARD to same, due to their evident arrogance of body-consciousness!
Is it God's fault if such souls VOLUNTARILY decide to DIVORCE themselves from God, even after such CLEAR CLARIFICATIONS are provided to them?
If you mix up everything then it will appear confusing.
I have just pointed out the role of each personality as how it should be. Still if you say I have mixed,
then mixing of PBKs has NO BOUNDS WHATSOEVER - as they say- Prajapita = Shankar = Krishna = ... which all go against Murli points.
They also say- three souls operate body of Dixit, two souls study through body of Dixit, various souls in another body (mostly Kamala Devi alias Jagadamba), etc., etc., etc.
Just for interest:- PBKs say- the first Brahma is Kamala Devi through whom adoption began. Then they say- process (the Chariot) of adoption shifted to Sevakram!
Further- not sure, but from your arguments, it looks like- as PBKs believe- the soul of Sevakram left his body and got next birth as Dixit. Now, when Mr Dixit came to BKWSU to get knowledge, he got adopted through sister Vedanti (since he first did the course with her)
(second adoption?). But again he was neither satisfied, nor convinced from her. So, that adoption was useless (except getting hold of bundles of Murlis - representative of the scriptures of the outer world in the 'shooting' of Ravan Rajya in the Confluence Age). Then he did his own personal study and found the knowledge himself
(without need of any corporeal medium for adoption)!. Then the process of adoption(Chariot) shifted to Mr Dixit himself, etc., etc. - is it not? So,
Error No. 26) Is Mr Dixit mouth born progeny (mukh-vanshavali) ?
When PBKs believe Sevakram got birth from mouth of their Adi Brahma (assumed to be previous birth of Kamala Devi)
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Now, after 1969, do they believe Dixit got re-birth through mouth of sister Vedanti and (mouth born progeny of her)? Or do they say- he got re-birth from his own churning and his re-birth is like something from inspiration?
And if AT ALL PBKs consider that soul of DLR is 'badi Ma' or big Mother, and Confluence Age Brahmins are supposed to be the Mouth-Born progeny of Brahma, and they should FOLLOW BRAHMA -
THEN, can you CLEARLY, DEFINITELY and EXACTLY declare whether PBKs qualify to be the Mouth-Born progeny of Brahma (DLR)? Or, if not, then PBKs are the mouth-born progeny of which Brahma???
Sister Vedanti, Kamala Devi or -Virendra Dev Dixit ??? And which Brahma are they supposed to FOLLOW IN PRACTICAL?
Obviously PBKs are NOT the mouth-born progeny of Brahma (DLR) in 'Sakar', as per their understanding and BLIND BELIEF, yet -Virendra Dev Dixit instructs them NOT TO FOLLOW his own (-VDDs) actions, but TO FOLLOW BRAHMA (DLR), is it not? So, how are PBKs expected to FOLLOW Brahma (DLR) when they are neither his mouth-born progeny in 'Sakar',
according to them, nor have they witnessed his actions in 'Sakar',
as per their requirement, to be able to follow anyone in practical???
First of all, please clarify who are the 4 or 5 Brahmas which PBKs have identified. In the form of Vishnu, PBKs say that two hands represent DLR and Om Radhe (should be logically Brahma & Saraswati), and two hands represent Sr Vedanti & -KDD (should have been actually logically Shankar & Parvati - is it not???) - so they probably assume these 4 to be Brahmas; while the head of Vishnu or the soul of Vishnu represents -Virendra Dev Dixit, who is actually 'Shankar' in 'Sakar' form, or Prajapita Brahma,
according to PBKs? In this manner there would be 4 Brahmas and 1 Prajapita Brahma,
according to PBKs? So the relevant question arises as to which Brahma is to be actually FOLLOWED in 'Sakar', as instructed by ShivBaba in various Murlis.
For the PBKs - it cannot be DLR, since they are not his 'Sakar' mouth-born progeny, and they have not witnessed his 'Sakar' part with their physical eyes,
as they claim?
It cannot be Om Radhe, for the same reasons as above, and since they have no 'Sakar' experience of her even now, after 1965 or 1969, to date?
It cannot be Sr Vedanti, since they have no 'Sakar' interaction with her, since she is with the BK Org?
It cannot be -KDD, since she left AIVV long ago, and has given
IN WRITING that she has
NOTHING TO DO with -Virendra Dev Dixit and AIVV??? (while the POOR PBKs continue to BLINDLY BELIEVE OTHERWISE???)
It cannot be -Virendra Dev Dixit, since he has clearly instructed the PBKs NOT TO FOLLOW his actions in 'Sakar', particularly his actions pertaining to physical copulation with the 'matas & kanyas' or mothers and virgins???
SO WHO THE HELL (in the name of the DEVIL) ARE THE PBKs SUPPOSED TO FOLLOW (for God's sake)???