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This topic is being started to documented recommended Books, Films, websites and other resources that might be of help or entertainment, to BKs, ex-BKs, those considering headed in either direction, and open-minded PBKs.
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Resources for ex-BKs
Movie :
Told from the angel's [BKs] point of view, the film is shot in black and white, blossoming into color only when the fallen angel [ex-BK] perceive the realities of humankind, determining that he must experience humanity in full, and breaking through in to the real world. The "Angels" for all their empathy, divinity and witness of human suffering are seem fairly powerless in their cool detatchment but are portrayed well. Really reminded me of a bunch of sullen European BKs in their long coats and pony tails.
Movie :
However, the scene of Neo "birth", where he wakens up from the induced sleep, and is spat out of his artifical womb and discarded by the Machine only to discover that he had been living a dream and is entirely weak and vulnerable, too much so to be even able to sustain himself, is a pretty close call on what it is like to pull out of Gyan. Its a great romp and not just one of the boys, thanks to love interest Keanu Reeves portrayal and a strong female lead from Carri-Anne Moss. Random website on philosophy of The Matrix. Just imagine all those mechanic bugs coming to get you to be negative BK mental programming and gun them down in your mind.
"Pay no attention to these hypocrites," Mouse tells Neo. "To deny our impulses is to deny the very thing that makes us human."
- • Wing of Desire by Wim Wenders ; Official Website
Told from the angel's [BKs] point of view, the film is shot in black and white, blossoming into color only when the fallen angel [ex-BK] perceive the realities of humankind, determining that he must experience humanity in full, and breaking through in to the real world. The "Angels" for all their empathy, divinity and witness of human suffering are seem fairly powerless in their cool detatchment but are portrayed well. Really reminded me of a bunch of sullen European BKs in their long coats and pony tails.
Movie :
- • The Matrix by The Wachowski Brothers.
However, the scene of Neo "birth", where he wakens up from the induced sleep, and is spat out of his artifical womb and discarded by the Machine only to discover that he had been living a dream and is entirely weak and vulnerable, too much so to be even able to sustain himself, is a pretty close call on what it is like to pull out of Gyan. Its a great romp and not just one of the boys, thanks to love interest Keanu Reeves portrayal and a strong female lead from Carri-Anne Moss. Random website on philosophy of The Matrix. Just imagine all those mechanic bugs coming to get you to be negative BK mental programming and gun them down in your mind.
"Pay no attention to these hypocrites," Mouse tells Neo. "To deny our impulses is to deny the very thing that makes us human."
Director Frank Capra's classic movies are nice and wholesome. Just a few of the most popular ;
- • You cannot Take It With You.
A wealthy, stuffy family of great self-importance meet a collection of good-hearted lunatics. When the two families come together, lifestyle and philosophy collide head-on and the relation breaks up when during a dinner party the house is raided by the police, everyone being arrested on suspicion of anarchism.
• Mr Smith Goes to Washington.
Naive and idealistic leader of the Boy Rangers is appointed on a lark by the spineless governor of his state but after discovers the shortcomings of politics his earnest goals leads to a conflict with the political bosses who first tries to corrupt Smith and then later attempts to destroy him through scandal.
• It's a Wonderful Life.
An angel helps a compassionate but despairingly frustrated businessman by showing what life would had been like if he never existed.
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Books
Book :
After moving into the farmer's house, learning to walk on two legs and wear human clothes, the pigs use a number of yuktis to get the animals to work for them including; the Sugarcandy Mountain, Ribbons & Sugar and Milk. The Sugarcandy Mountain to symbolize the concept of a Heaven to come that inspires the animals to work using lies and manipulation. A land where clover and sugar is unmeasured and free to everyone. Ribbons & Sugar symbolizes the luxuries of life enjoyed by the old middle class under the old government. Mollie, the capitalist, is particularly fond of ribbons and sugar so much so that she leaves the farm for them. Lastly, Orwell uses Milk to represent the care and love that mothers give to their children. When the pigs take the milk for themselves they are in essence, stealing the very life of the other animals turning the other farm animals into tools of the state. No longer is the power in the family, the cornerstone of civilization, but in the totalitarian New World government. As salient a read as when it was written and a warning to us all of how be become those we rebel against.
Boxer the horse, is a tragic avatar of the working class or proletariat; loyal, dedicated, and strong. His major flaw, however, is his blind trust of the leaders and his inability to see corruption. I suggest that he could easily represent the 100,000s of poor bharatwasi BKs hearded down at Abu Road.
Book :
In one of the major episodes where you will see my metaphor clearly, Satan holds a magic show at the Variety Theatre. Originally satirising vanity, greed and gullibility of the new rich, it has the self-proclaimed elite duped into believing that they are dressed in the most wonderous finer, everything is well and that the Magician is able to money fall from the ceiling. But when they walk out and wake up later, they find they are naked, the money just paper and everything is asa it was before.
As a spiritual counter point, there is also an interesting account of the meeting Pontius Pilate's meeting with Jesus, his recognition of an affinity with and spiritual need for the Messiah whilst also realising his role in his death. Witch-like flying figures a lot.
Book :
Book :
During her training, her teacher did not give her any specific spiritual practice as he believed that while men required this kind of discipline, such things were not necessary for women to develop spiritually. The few years she spent near him consisted largely of sitting in his courtyard or house, observing his interaction with other disciples and family, with occasional terse conversations with him. The stress resulting from a combination of the heat, noise, smells, physical illness, and emotional deprivation seemed to cause a progressive emptying of her personality.
Her teacher described his method of instruction in the following way: "... we do not teach but quicken. I am stronger than you so your currents adjust themselves to mine" thus causing "the stronger magnetic field to affect, quicken the weaker". This combination of suffering so that she would "lose herself in every way", and the teacher's continued presence and influence resulted in different spiritual experiences.
It is an interesting and honest account of the sometimes harsh process and breakdowns one can experience on a true spiritual path. Not the pretty New Age - do it at the weekend - face.
- Animal Farm by George Orwell [Searchable online verision]
After moving into the farmer's house, learning to walk on two legs and wear human clothes, the pigs use a number of yuktis to get the animals to work for them including; the Sugarcandy Mountain, Ribbons & Sugar and Milk. The Sugarcandy Mountain to symbolize the concept of a Heaven to come that inspires the animals to work using lies and manipulation. A land where clover and sugar is unmeasured and free to everyone. Ribbons & Sugar symbolizes the luxuries of life enjoyed by the old middle class under the old government. Mollie, the capitalist, is particularly fond of ribbons and sugar so much so that she leaves the farm for them. Lastly, Orwell uses Milk to represent the care and love that mothers give to their children. When the pigs take the milk for themselves they are in essence, stealing the very life of the other animals turning the other farm animals into tools of the state. No longer is the power in the family, the cornerstone of civilization, but in the totalitarian New World government. As salient a read as when it was written and a warning to us all of how be become those we rebel against.
Boxer the horse, is a tragic avatar of the working class or proletariat; loyal, dedicated, and strong. His major flaw, however, is his blind trust of the leaders and his inability to see corruption. I suggest that he could easily represent the 100,000s of poor bharatwasi BKs hearded down at Abu Road.
Book :
- The Master and Margarita by Mikhail Bulgakov [Online Text version].
In one of the major episodes where you will see my metaphor clearly, Satan holds a magic show at the Variety Theatre. Originally satirising vanity, greed and gullibility of the new rich, it has the self-proclaimed elite duped into believing that they are dressed in the most wonderous finer, everything is well and that the Magician is able to money fall from the ceiling. But when they walk out and wake up later, they find they are naked, the money just paper and everything is asa it was before.
As a spiritual counter point, there is also an interesting account of the meeting Pontius Pilate's meeting with Jesus, his recognition of an affinity with and spiritual need for the Messiah whilst also realising his role in his death. Witch-like flying figures a lot.
Book :
- Tao Te Ching by LaoTzu Translation by Gia Fu Feng and photos by Jane English [Online verision].
As soon as the Silver Age is over, I am off to Yunnan to hang out with Lao Tzu and his mates. None of those Monkey gods, Elephant boys or caste system for me. One of the most popular translations of the Taoist classic illustrated by simple B&W photographs. A religion without religion and grounded common sense wisdom. A peaceful meditation without a god encroaching on your inner space. Universal stuff that the BKs have not laid claim to. Yet. 25 years old translation but timeless. [On a serious note, one thing I wish the BKs would wake up to and advertise is that the native Copper Aged religion was not Hindu and only Indian but widespread and universal. You would think that India had the trademark on enlightenment the way they go on, largely in their nationalistic way.]Lao Tzu wrote:Better stop short than fill to the brim.
Oversharpen the blade, and the edge will soon blunt.
Amass a store of gold and jade, and no one can protect it.
Claim wealth and titles, and disaster will follow.
Retire when the work is done.
This is the way of heaven.
Book :
- The Chasm of Fire, A Women's Experience of Liberation through the Teachings of a Sufi Master by Irina Tweedie.
During her training, her teacher did not give her any specific spiritual practice as he believed that while men required this kind of discipline, such things were not necessary for women to develop spiritually. The few years she spent near him consisted largely of sitting in his courtyard or house, observing his interaction with other disciples and family, with occasional terse conversations with him. The stress resulting from a combination of the heat, noise, smells, physical illness, and emotional deprivation seemed to cause a progressive emptying of her personality.
Her teacher described his method of instruction in the following way: "... we do not teach but quicken. I am stronger than you so your currents adjust themselves to mine" thus causing "the stronger magnetic field to affect, quicken the weaker". This combination of suffering so that she would "lose herself in every way", and the teacher's continued presence and influence resulted in different spiritual experiences.
It is an interesting and honest account of the sometimes harsh process and breakdowns one can experience on a true spiritual path. Not the pretty New Age - do it at the weekend - face.
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Two books both on the same subject;
The Siren Call of Hungry Ghosts is not a skeptic's dismissal of channeling. Deeply convinced of the reality of reincarnation after writing The Case For Reincarnation and Life Between Life, Joe Fisher ventured into the world of mediumship with every expectation of writing the definitive book on how to contact spirit guides. But what he encountered, while remarkable in many ways, turned his emotions inside out and left him questioning the faith of New Age believers. This book is required reading for anyone who has ever visited, or considered visiting, a deep-trance channeler. Joe gets sucked into a "relationship" with his own personal "guide" but being an investigative journalist, decides to take down details of four of them, including that of his own guide with a view to checking out just how true their claims are.
The claims don't check out. In fact each persona is an uneasy fit of good geographical and lousy genealogical research with some historical background thrown in for good measure. In short these are fictional characters inserted into believable contexts and comes to believe that the mediums are actually being taken over by malevolent "earthbound spirits", the tormented souls of those who had lived desolate and degenerate lives, who cannot accept they are dead and refuse to "move on". These souls find the openings that mediums provide excellent opportunities for mischief and worse. As such Fisher concludes that it is potentially dangerous to get involved with mediums claiming to channel "spirit guides" as they cannot be believed and are arch manipulators.
- • The Siren Call of Hungry Ghosts by the late Joe Fisher
The Siren Call of Hungry Ghosts is not a skeptic's dismissal of channeling. Deeply convinced of the reality of reincarnation after writing The Case For Reincarnation and Life Between Life, Joe Fisher ventured into the world of mediumship with every expectation of writing the definitive book on how to contact spirit guides. But what he encountered, while remarkable in many ways, turned his emotions inside out and left him questioning the faith of New Age believers. This book is required reading for anyone who has ever visited, or considered visiting, a deep-trance channeler. Joe gets sucked into a "relationship" with his own personal "guide" but being an investigative journalist, decides to take down details of four of them, including that of his own guide with a view to checking out just how true their claims are.
The claims don't check out. In fact each persona is an uneasy fit of good geographical and lousy genealogical research with some historical background thrown in for good measure. In short these are fictional characters inserted into believable contexts and comes to believe that the mediums are actually being taken over by malevolent "earthbound spirits", the tormented souls of those who had lived desolate and degenerate lives, who cannot accept they are dead and refuse to "move on". These souls find the openings that mediums provide excellent opportunities for mischief and worse. As such Fisher concludes that it is potentially dangerous to get involved with mediums claiming to channel "spirit guides" as they cannot be believed and are arch manipulators.
- • People of the Lie by the late M. Scott Peck
M. Scott Peck wrote:Evil deeds do not make an evil person. Otherwise we would all be evil. If evil people cannot be defined by the illegality of their deeds or the magnitude of their sins, then how are we to define them? The answer is by the consistency of their sins. While usually subtle, their destructiveness is remarkably consistent. This is because those who have crossed over the line are characterized by their absolute refusal to tolerate the sense of their own sinfulness.
The poor in spirit do not commit evil. Evil is not committed by people who feel uncertain about their righteousness, who question their own motives, who worry about betraying themselves. The evil of this world is committed by the spiritual fat cats, by the Pharisee's of our own day, the self-righteous who think they are without sin because they are unwilling to suffer the discomfort of significant self-examination. It is out of their failure to put themselves on trial that their evil arises. They are, in my experience remarkably greedy people.
A predominant characteristic of the behavior that I call evil is scapegoating. Because in their hearts they consider themselves above reproach, they must lash out at anyone who does reproach them. They sacrifice others to preserve their self-image of perfection.
Utterly dedicated to preserving their self-image of perfection, they are unceasingly engaged in the effort to maintain the appearance of moral purity. They are acutely sensitive to social norms and what others might think of them. They seem to live lives that are above reproach. The words image, appearance and outwardly are crucial to understanding the morality of 'the evil'. While they lack any motivation to be good, they intensely desire to appear good. Their goodness is all on a level of pretense. It is in effect a lie. Actually the lie is designed not so much to deceive others as to deceive themselves. We lie only when we are attempting to cover up something we know to be illicit. At one and the same time 'the evil' are aware of their evil and desperately trying to avoid the awareness. We become evil by attempting to hide from ourselves. The wickedness of 'the evil' is not committed directly, but indirectly as a part of this cover-up process. Evil originates not in the absence of guilt but in the effort to escape it.
It often happens then that 'the evil' may be recognized by its very disguise. Because they are such experts at disguise, it is seldom possible to pinpoint the maliciousness of 'the evil'. The disguise is usually impenetrable.
They are not pain avoiders or lazy people in general. To the contrary, they are likely to exert themselves more than most in their continuing effort to obtain and maintain an image of respectability. They may willingly, even eagerly, undergo great hardships in their search for status. It is only one particular pain they cannot tolerate: the pain of their own conscience, the pain of realization of their own sinfulness and imperfection.
They are men and women of obviously strong will, determined to have their own way. There is a remarkable power in the manner in which they attempt to control others.
Those who are evil are masters of disguise; they are not apt to wittingly disclose their true colors - either to others or to themselves. It is not without reason that the serpent is renowned for his subtlety. We therefore cannot pass judgment on a person for a single act. Instead judgment must be made on the basis of a whole pattern of acts as well as their manner and style.
Think of the psychic energy required for the continued maintenance of the pretense so characteristic of 'the evil'! They perhaps direct at least as much energy into their devious rationalizations and destructive compensations as the healthies do into loving behavior. Why? What possesses them, drives them? Basically, it is fear. They are terrified that the pretense will break down and they will be exposed to the world and to themselves.
Evil people would be distinguished by these traits:
- 1.) Consistent destructive, scapegoating behavior, which may often be quite subtle.
2.) Excessive, albeit usually covert, intolerance to criticism and other forms of narcissistic injury.
3.) Pronounced concern with a public image and self-image of respectability, contributing to a stability of lifestyle but also to pretentiousness and denial of hateful feelings or vengeful motives.
4.) Intellectual deviousness, with an increased likelihood of a mild schizophrenic-like disturbance of thinking at times of stress."
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From a post by primal.logic in the ex-BK forum;
- • The Power of Now by Ekhart Tolle.
- • Woulda, Coulda, Shoulda by Dr Arthur Freeman and Rose DeWolf.
- • A Short History of Nearly Everything by Bill Bryson.
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Holy Smoke
Movie :
On a trip to India, Winslet falls in with the cult, and refuses to come home. Barron's family hires Keitel, an American cult deprogrammer, to help bring her to her senses. Barron is lured back under the pretense that her Father is dying. Her family and friends then surprise her by telling her she must spend the next three days with Waters, who intends to 'cure' her.
I remember that this caused a little ripple in BK circles when it came out, all the sisters in the cults wore white saris. Winslet reminds me of some of the young BK sisters I knew but the character's behaviour is not convincing. Its interesting to see a film made about cults or spirituality that obviously had no real experience of it. The main problem with this movie is the cult deprogramming. Waters is said to be the best in his field, yet the Campions' portrayal of deprogramming is silly and irresponsible. Its ethics not questioned at all.
The beginning though is excellent. The guru opening the third eye scene is probably the best on celluloid and made me want to go sign up straight away. My sympathies lay with the cult members and it portrayal of India will bring back memories.
- • Holy Smoke by Campion Sisters
On a trip to India, Winslet falls in with the cult, and refuses to come home. Barron's family hires Keitel, an American cult deprogrammer, to help bring her to her senses. Barron is lured back under the pretense that her Father is dying. Her family and friends then surprise her by telling her she must spend the next three days with Waters, who intends to 'cure' her.
I remember that this caused a little ripple in BK circles when it came out, all the sisters in the cults wore white saris. Winslet reminds me of some of the young BK sisters I knew but the character's behaviour is not convincing. Its interesting to see a film made about cults or spirituality that obviously had no real experience of it. The main problem with this movie is the cult deprogramming. Waters is said to be the best in his field, yet the Campions' portrayal of deprogramming is silly and irresponsible. Its ethics not questioned at all.
The beginning though is excellent. The guru opening the third eye scene is probably the best on celluloid and made me want to go sign up straight away. My sympathies lay with the cult members and it portrayal of India will bring back memories.
movies
Hi, ex-l
I've seen Holy Smokes years ago and of course I compared my bk life to it a lot ... anyway ... have you heard about movie everyone is talking about? It's interesting, all goes back to the basic stuff: our thoughts ...
The Secret is a self-help film using a purported documentary format to present its "transforming" message—the "Law of Attraction". It opens with a long section expanding on its tagline, "The Secret has traveled through centuries to reach you". The bulk of the film features interviews of professionals (and dramatizations of those interviews) in the business of promoting, teaching, or writing about the concept of the "Law of Attraction". These people come from diverse backgrounds, ranging from business and science to theology and philosophy. Interspersed between the interviews are testimonials, real life stories, and what the filmmaker asserts as pertinent quotes from historical figures.
I've seen Holy Smokes years ago and of course I compared my bk life to it a lot ... anyway ... have you heard about movie everyone is talking about? It's interesting, all goes back to the basic stuff: our thoughts ...
- • The Secret by Prime Time Productions
The Secret is a self-help film using a purported documentary format to present its "transforming" message—the "Law of Attraction". It opens with a long section expanding on its tagline, "The Secret has traveled through centuries to reach you". The bulk of the film features interviews of professionals (and dramatizations of those interviews) in the business of promoting, teaching, or writing about the concept of the "Law of Attraction". These people come from diverse backgrounds, ranging from business and science to theology and philosophy. Interspersed between the interviews are testimonials, real life stories, and what the filmmaker asserts as pertinent quotes from historical figures.
proy wrote:The people involved in the making of the film "The Secret" appeared in the USA on the Oprah Show recently. You can download the whole 45 minute show, which is entirely devoted to "The Secret" from - The Secret on Oprah.
It is a 96MB download so you will need a good internet connection. The show may be scheduled for UK TV sometime in the coming months. You will find a review of the film "The Secret" earlier in this thread.
Something lighter ;
The Monty Python team examines the meaning and purpose of life in a series of sketches from Creation to conception to death and beyond. In typical Monty Python fashion they satirize and humourize almost everyone.
A series of coincidences and some meaningless babble Brian recites as an attempt to avoid the Romans leads a small army of people to come to regard Brian as the Messiah. Despite his best efforts to convince people that this is not the case, and his attempts to use his influence to get people to embrace their individuality and not rely on authority figures (advice which is merely parrotted back at him, reverentially), he is arrested, sentenced to death, crucified, and abandoned by anyone who could possibly help him. Still, by the closing credits, he is persuaded to "Always Look on the Bright Side of Life".
Early Learning or Early Brainwashing ?
- • The Meaning of Life by Monty Python
The Monty Python team examines the meaning and purpose of life in a series of sketches from Creation to conception to death and beyond. In typical Monty Python fashion they satirize and humourize almost everyone.
- •The Life of Brian by Monty Python
A series of coincidences and some meaningless babble Brian recites as an attempt to avoid the Romans leads a small army of people to come to regard Brian as the Messiah. Despite his best efforts to convince people that this is not the case, and his attempts to use his influence to get people to embrace their individuality and not rely on authority figures (advice which is merely parrotted back at him, reverentially), he is arrested, sentenced to death, crucified, and abandoned by anyone who could possibly help him. Still, by the closing credits, he is persuaded to "Always Look on the Bright Side of Life".
- • Jesus Camp by Heidi Ewing and Rachel Grady
Early Learning or Early Brainwashing ?
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Book:
- • The End of Faith by Sam Harris
Book :
Generally, they are beautiful fable like tales with very moral type messages. Quite moving to read.
- • Short stories by Oscar Wilde
Generally, they are beautiful fable like tales with very moral type messages. Quite moving to read.
Movies : The following "New Age spirituality" movies are not really to everyone's taste, but are for entertainment viewing. All are a bit heavy going, something spiritually lighter such as Wallace and Gromit would be better :
- • The Fountain by Warner Bros (2006)
- • Celestine Prophecy by James Redfield/Armand Mastroianni (2006)
paulkershaw wrote:I saw the new Movie The Fountain this weekend on DVD, staring Hugh Jackman of X-Men fame and Oscar Winner Rachel Weisz. It takes a deep and different look at one man living many Parallel Lives and trying to save the same woman in all these lives. In one life, a Yogi searches for the healing ability (and Medicine of Life) in a tree and the comment made in Genesis (Bible) that there are two Trees, namely a Tree of Life and a Tree of Knowledge, which really struck home for me ... There is also a comment that ShiBaba or SheeBaba? (read ShivBaba?) is the Lord of the Underworld too. Deep stuff, especially as one realises what the underworld is ... Anyways, I recommend the scene where the Yogi character ascends into the Light and meets G-D (as Light) is awesome and inspiring and I really find myself seeing a deeper side to Life today ... some imagery and symbolism is incredible ... Hope you can all get hold of it, it teaches about Love and Light to me ...
ex-l wrote:... Xibalba, the Mayan underworld.
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Play :
The play begins with a Valet leading a man into a room that the audience soon realizes is in hell. The room has no windows, no mirrors and only one doorThe man is joined by one woman and then another. After their entry, the Valet leaves and the door is shut and locked. All expect to be tortured but no torturer arrives. Instead they realize they are there to torture each other, which they do effectively, by probing each other's sins, desires, and unpleasant memories. At first, the three see events concerning them that are happening on earth, though they can only observe and listen, but eventually as their connection to Earth dwindles and the living move on they are left with only their own thoughts and the company of the other two. Near the end of the play, the man demands he be let out; at his words the door flies open but he and the others refuse to leave.
- • No Exit by Jean-Paul Sartre
The play begins with a Valet leading a man into a room that the audience soon realizes is in hell. The room has no windows, no mirrors and only one doorThe man is joined by one woman and then another. After their entry, the Valet leaves and the door is shut and locked. All expect to be tortured but no torturer arrives. Instead they realize they are there to torture each other, which they do effectively, by probing each other's sins, desires, and unpleasant memories. At first, the three see events concerning them that are happening on earth, though they can only observe and listen, but eventually as their connection to Earth dwindles and the living move on they are left with only their own thoughts and the company of the other two. Near the end of the play, the man demands he be let out; at his words the door flies open but he and the others refuse to leave.
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