Ganesh-Kartikey: 2-sons of Shiva-Parvati.

[shivsena]

All these Bhaktimarg stories and symbols have been clarified by ShivBaba (through Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) in the discussion classes which I have posted on this forum from time to time. As I don't have time to search I cannot help you in this matter.

I don't need your help..i just asked for views of PBKs.

[sita]

The meaning of Ganesh riding a mouse is that heavy like elephant gurus are living on the cost of poor householders. I have not heard clarification about Kartikey, but as peacock is simbolic for purity it may be something connected with purity.

[shivsena]

As per Advanced Knowledge, Brahma Baba's soul plays the role of Ganesha whereas the seed-soul of Islam (among the PBKs) plays the role of Kartikeya (six-headed deity based and worshipped mostly in South India).

In Bhakti, Ganesh is known as vigna-vinashak and vigna-harta...If Brahma-Lekhraj Kirpalani played the role of ganesh, then what is the vigna(obstacle) he crossed.

[shivsena]

Imo, Ganesh is not one soul Lekhraj Kirpalani , but 108 shivshaktis are numberwise Ganesh(popularly known as parvati putra.)
Ganesh is also known as buddhi-nath ie God of wisdom (because only 108 recognise combined mat-pita adishakti) and is also known as vigna-vinashak(remover of obstacle) as only 108 souls overcome the obstacle of mayavi adv-Gyan to become mayajeet.

108 Names of Lord Ganesh :

1 Akhuratha : One who has Mouse as His Charioteer
2 Alampata : Ever Eternal Lord
3 Amit : Incomparable Lord
4 Anantachidrupamayam : Infinite and Consciousness Personified
5 Avaneesh : Lord of the whole World
6 Avighna : Remover of Obstacles
7 Balaganapati : Beloved and Lovable Child
8 Bhalchandra : Moon-Crested Lord
9 Bheema : Huge and Gigantic
10 Bhupati : Lord of the Gods
11 Bhuvanpati : God of the Gods
12 Buddhinath : God of Wisdom
13 Buddhipriya : Knowledge Bestower
14 Buddhividhata: God of Knowledge
15 Chaturbhuj : One who has Four Arms
16 Devadeva : Lord of All Lords
17 Devantakanashakarin: Destroyer of Evils and Asuras
18 Devavrata : One who accepts all Penances
19 Devendrashika: Protector of All Gods
20 Dharmik : One who gives Charity
21 Dhoomravarna : Smoke-Hued Lord
22 Durja : Invincible Lord
23 Dvaimatura : One who has two Mothers
24 Ekaakshara : He of the Single Syllable
25 Ekadanta : Single-Tusked Lord
26 Ekadrishta : Single-Tusked Lord
27 Eshanputra : Lord Shiva's Son
28 Gadadhara : One who has The Mace as His Weapon
29 Gajakarna : One who has Eyes like an Elephant
30 Gajanana : Elephant-Faced Lord
31 Gajananeti : Elephant-Faced Lord
32 Gajavakra : Trunk of The Elephant
33 Gajavaktra : One who has Mouth like an Elephant
34 Ganadhakshya : Lord of All Ganas (Gods)
35 Ganadhyakshina: Leader of All The Celestial Bodies
36 Ganapati : Lord of All Ganas (Gods)
37 Gaurisuta : The Son of Gauri (Parvati)
38 Gunina : One who is The Master of All Virtues
39 Haridra : One who is Golden Coloured
40 Heramba : Mother's Beloved Son
41 Kapila : Yellowish-Brown Coloured
42 Kaveesha : Master of Poets
43 Kirti : Lord of Music
44 Kripalu : Merciful Lord
45 Krishapingaksha : Yellowish-Brown Eyed
46 Kshamakaram : The Place of Forgiveness
47 Kshipra : One who is easy to Appease
48 Lambakarna : Large-Eared Lord
49 Lambodara : The Huge Bellied Lord
50 Mahabala : Enormously Strong Lord
51 Mahaganapati : Omnipotent and Supreme Lord
52 Maheshwaram : Lord of The Universe
53 Mangalamurti : All Auspicious Lord
54 Manomay : Winner of Hearts
55 Mrityuanjaya : Conqueror of Death
56 Mundakarama : Abode of Happiness
57 Muktidaya : Bestower of Eternal Bliss
58 Musikvahana : One who has Mouse as His Charioteer
59 Nadapratithishta : One who Appreciates and Loves Music
60 Namasthetu : Vanquisher of All Evils and Vices and Sins
61 Nandana : Lord Shiva's Son
62 Nideeshwaram : Giver of Wealth and Treasures
63 Omkara : One who has the Form Of OM
64 Pitambara : One who has Yellow-Coloured Body
65 Pramoda : Lord of All Abodes
66 Prathameshwara : First Among All
67 Purush : The Omnipotent Personality
68 Rakta : One who has Red-Coloured Body
69 Rudrapriya : Beloved Of Lord Shiva
70 Sarvadevatman : Acceptor of All Celestial Offerings
71 Sarvasiddhanta : Bestower of Skills and Wisdom
72 Sarvatman : Protector of The Universe
73 Shambhavi : The Son of Parvati
74 Shashivarnam : One who has a Moon like Complexion
75 Shoorpakarna : Large-Eared Lord
76 Shuban : All Auspicious Lord
77 Shubhagunakanan : One who is The Master of All Virtues
78 Shweta : One who is as Pure as the White Colour
79 Siddhidhata : Bestower of Success and Accomplishments
80 Siddhipriya : Bestower of Wishes and Boons
81 Siddhivinayaka : Bestower of Success
82 Skandapurvaja : Elder Brother of Skand (Lord Kartik)
83 Sumukha : Auspicious Face
84 Sureshwaram : Lord of All Lords
85 Swaroop : Lover of Beauty
86 Tarun : Ageless
87 Uddanda : Nemesis of Evils and Vices
88 Umaputra : The Son of Goddess Uma (Parvati)
89 Vakratunda : Curved Trunk Lord
90 Varaganapati : Bestower of Boons
91 Varaprada : Granter of Wishes and Boons
92 Varadavinayaka : Bestower of Success
93 Veeraganapati : Heroic Lord
94 Vidyavaridhi : God of Wisdom
95 Vighnahara : Remover of Obstacles
96 Vignaharta : Demolisher of Obstacles
97 Vighnaraja : Lord of All Hindrances
98 Vighnarajendra : Lord of All Obstacles
99 Vighnavinashanaya : Destroyer of All Obstacles and Impediments
100 Vigneshwara : Lord of All Obstacles
101 Vikat : Huge and Gigantic
102 Vinayaka : Lord of All
103 Vishwamukha : Master of The Universe
104 Vishwaraja : King of The World
105 Yagnakaya : Acceptor of All Sacred and Sacrficial Offerings
106 Yashaskaram : Bestower of Fame and Fortune
107 Yashvasin : Beloved and Ever Popular Lord
108 Yogadhipa : The Lord of Yoga.
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[arjun]

In Bhakti, Ganesh is known as vigna-vinashak and vigna-harta...If Brahma-Lekhraj Kirpalani played the role of ganesh, then what is the vigna(obstacle) he crossed.

It is Father Shiv who enables us to cross the obstacles. But when one does not have any faith either on Shiv or on any soul, such questions are raised. It was through Brahma Baba that the Yagya was managed by Shiv from 1947 to 1969.

[shivsena]

It was through Brahma Baba that the Yagya was managed by Shiv from 1947 to 1969.

And PBKs do not hesitate to call the same Brahma (who managed the Yagya) as Ravan.

[sita]

The matter about why Ganesh, Lakshmi and Saraswati are shown together is discussed in discussion 1370 at 52:45 min. It sais that the soul of Saraswati, that is Om Radhe, enters and plays role into Lakshmi, so they are together. The soul of Ganesh is son of Lakshmi or Parvati, it will become son of Lakshmi in Satyug. And the soul of Saraswati in the Confluence Age, that enters and plays role into Lakshmi, when Lakshmi attains its complete form, that soul takes birth from Lakshmi through the womb of the intellect or through the phisical womb. The three are together, thats why they are shown together.