Therefore I personally feel that instead of breaking our heads and/or trying to break others heads to find out the Yagya history it is better to read the muralis. Focus on the muralis and Av Vanis...
Dear shivshakti,
In the Murli it is said that i cannot be achived through study of scriptures. I come and introduce myself. On the path of Bhakti they say that through study of scriptures one can know God, but no one can know me like this,because only when i peronally come in front of you can i give you my own introduction. By saying that we should study the Murlis to attain God we ask people to do bahakti. Knowledge is the introduction of the Father. It is to tell where is the Father, it is simple informtion where no effort is required. If one accepts or not we are not responsiblefor this. One may accept with one word, one may not accept with hundreds. It is said that we have to look for such souls who accept the knowledge from one word, they belong to our clan. If we convert someone violently, through persuation, he will shed blood of thoughts later in the knowledge, leave and make others leave. This is an easy path. Easy Raja Yoga and knowledge, and the path of Bhakti is the path of hard work and sorrow. They say there that do effort and you will have attainment, but they cannot even present the result of their own effort. To what conclusion have you reache by reading the Murlis. Where is God, who is God. If you have some result why don't you present this, but ask people to make effort, that they have made effort for thousands of yers and are exhausted and don't like to do effort anymore. And how can one know God by ones's own mind, without him coming and introducyiong, himself. This will be bkahti only. This path is for them who cannot do any effort anymore and cannot churn and cannot find God on their own, and it is easy. Knowledge is given ready-made, we just have to study. And study is face to face. Gyan comes from one. Bhakti come from many. Initially there is one God, one source of knowledge. Later, though teaching of people, various sects get introduced.
Anyone can subscribe to the idea that one is about to reach some intellectial superiority and post, through ones' own churning, but this knowledge is about the poor mothers of India, who does not even have wordly education, so what about them. Are they to wait for the able ones to give them result of their own churnning, or will they get jewels of knowledge by God, or are they also not worthy to high post as everyone else. Why do you make the easy difficult.
Dear Sach_Khand,
Everyone is subject to the cycle of gaining and losing faith, and it is a wonder, we never lose faith in our phisical Father, but we do in the spiritual Father. It is said that we gain from our phisical Father, phisical attainment and from the spiritual Father we have much more attainment, still we forget. We remember there where we have benefit, so probably we forget the benefit from Yaad. It is the main subject, but of course in order to have Yaad we have to have knowledge. But i don't believe the firmness of our faith is indicative for the truthfulness of the recognition. One can loose faith in the truth or one can be firm in the falsehood also.