Who is Shankar? What is his part? How is Shankar special?

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Re: Who is Shankar? What is his part? How is Shankar special

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Is there any proof in Murlis about the son (Lekhraj Kirpalani-Krishna-creation) entering the Father Ram-Shankar(supposed to be Virendra Dev Dixit)...because Murlis only say that : "Father enters Krishna at the end of 84 births and not that son-Krishna enters the Father after completing 83 1/2 births"....or..have the PBKs relied on Bhakti-photo of Shankar, showing the crescent moon on his forehead, as the proof !!!....if this is the case, then why it is never mentioned in Bhakti-scriptures that crescent moon represents Krishna on shankars forehead ???

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Re: Who is Shankar? What is his part? How is Shankar special

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shivsena wrote:Is there any proof in Murlis about the son (Lekhraj Kirpalani-Krishna-creation) entering the Father Ram-Shankar(supposed to be Virendra Dev Dixit)...because Murlis only say that : "Father enters Krishna at the end of 84 births and not that son-Krishna enters the Father after completing 83 1/2 births"....or..have the PBKs relied on Bhakti-photo of Shankar, showing the crescent moon on his forehead, as the proof !!!....if this is the case, then why it is never mentioned in Bhakti-scriptures that crescent moon represents Krishna on shankars forehead ???
Dear Shivsena Bhai, i believe there is proof in the Murli of Brahma Baba Krishna entering Shankar, only you have to put the pieces or various Murli clues together to come to this understanding. Here are just a couple that hint at this...

"Until his(Prajapita-Ram's aka Shankar) body is there, you (Brahma Baba Krishna, and all true Brahmins) have to sip the nectar of (Advance) Knowledge (through him - the Murlis narrated between 1951-1969, are the Ganges or Water of Knowledge, not the Nectar of Knowledge). When you (Brahma Baba Krishna) attain the karmateet stage (first of all at the end - Brahma so Vishnu) the war will begin (in the outside world)." [Mu 19.11.72]

"If Mama(Saraswati) and (Brahma)Baba enter into someone (in their subtle bodies), then they can sit there itself and study through them." [Mu 27.08.05]


ShivBaba has referred to Brahma Baba Krishna as the moon of knowledge mother, so the half crescent moon symbolises the effort maker Brahma Baba Krishna, studying through Shankar's body. The true Sun Dynasty souls must have been aware of the third soul of Brahma Baba Krishna being in the body of Shankar at the very beginning of the Copper Age, otherwise they wouldn't have shown the crescent moon on the forehead of Shankar... But just like the majority very quickly come to believe Krishna is the God of the Gita, and that Shiv Shankar is one being; this understanding is very quickly lost amongst all the other opinions and religions that begin to emerge, as time proceeds.

"When the Iron Age ends (in the intellect of Prajapita-Ram aka Shankar in 1976, as a result of his 5-6 years of spiritual efforts and realisations), then (the subtle) Bhakti (of the Confluence Age) would also end (for him); only then will God (Shiva) come and meet (in the form of the Father) because He alone gives the fruits of Bhakti (by revealing the deep secrets locked within the Sakar Murlis, that allow the accurate churning of Gyan to commence for the true Brahmins, or PBKs). He (Prajapita-Ram) is called the Sun of Knowledge. The Moon of knowledge, the Sun of Knowledge and the lucky stars of knowledge. OK, the (corporeal) Father (Prajapita-Ram) is the Sun of Knowledge (i.e. this role is played through Shankar, from 1976, by Father Shiv). Then the mother (Brahma Baba Krishna) should be the Moon of knowledge. So, the body (of Brahma Baba Krishna) in which He (Shiv) has entered (at this time) is the Moon of knowledge mother (Incognito Jagadamaba) and the rest of the children are lucky stars. In this way, Jagdamba(Om Radhe-Mama) is also a lucky star because she is also a child, isn’t she? Even among the stars, one (Prajapita-Ram aka Shankar) shines the most. Similarly, even here they are numberwise. Those are the Sun, the Moon and the stars of the sky, and here it is a matter of knowledge (Shankar is no 1 in knowledge and churning). Just as they are the rivers of water and these (children) are the rivers of knowledge, which have emerged from the Ocean of Knowledge (Father Shiv)." [Mu 11.01.08]

"This one (Brahma Baba Krishna) is the moon (of knowledge mother) of the Sun of Knowledge(Father, ShivBaba - Shiv+Prjapita-Shankar)... but because he is male, the urn is placed on the mother(Mama Saraswati)." [Mu 05.09.08]

"This is the Sun of Knowledge(Prajapita-Ram aka Shankar). This secret (incognito) Mama(Brahma Baba Krishna) is different (i.e. has a different role to him). This secret is hardly understood or explained by anyone. The name of that Mama is different... temples are built for her. Is there any temple for this secret old Mother (Brahma Baba Krishna)?" [Mu 17.11.77]

"Although the body (of Prajapita-Ram aka Shankar) may be small, but if he is clever in knowledge (no 1), then it is felt that he is going to become a great person in the future." [Mu 03.05.73]

"Elder brother is always treated as Father. Here everything depends on knowledge. Whoever has more knowledge is supposed to be elder. Although he (Prajapita-Shankar) may be young (he was only 34 in 1976) , but if he is clever in knowledge (no 1), then we think that he is going to become Vishwanath(Lord of the World/Universe, or World Emperor Shri Narayan of the Confluence Age)." [Mu 03.05.76]

"God is one. It is said that his child also is one. Among the three deities of Trimurti, Shankar is the eldest(most knowledgeable)." [Mu 10.02.72]

“Bhil(Shankar aka Prajapita-Ram) went even faster than Arjun. The one who stays outside(the one who was exiled from the BK Yagya) ate(assimilated) all the arrows (of knowledge for 5-6 years, from '69/70).” [Mu 03.08.74]


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