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arjun wrote: Where is your mother Om Radhey Mama? Why don't you present her before the world when you are so much interested in dissecting someone's private life in public? Why this double standard?
Personified ShivBaba(Mama--no. 1 shivshakti) reveals herself only to 108 king souls, as it is said in Vanis that bap(along with Maa) hai gupt and (Maa)bap aur bacche ka milan parde ke peech hi accha lagta hai....that is why there is a Bhakti-marg story about ganesh and kartike---2 sons of shiv-parvati....only buddhi-dataa ganesh(right-hand brahmins) could recognise his parents while kartike(left-hand brahmins) went in search of mother-Father all around the world but could not find them.
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nivi wrote:It's about time people started examining at their own dirty laundry first (which I am sure there is plenty of..) and start cleaning up their own lives, which in turn will leave little room to point fingers at others.
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The same applies to all PBKs also, who better do a thourough checking inside before preaching to BKs about Ak (jhooti Gita)
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shivsena wrote:Personified ShivBaba(Mama--no. 1 shivshakti) reveals herself only to 108 king souls, as it is said in Vanis that bap(along with Maa) hai gupt and (Maa)bap aur bacche ka milan parde ke peech hi accha lagta hai....that is why there is a Bhakti-marg story about ganesh and kartike---2 sons of Shiv-parvati....only buddhi-dataa ganesh(right-hand Brahmins) could recognise his parents while kartike(left-hand Brahmins) went in search of mother-Father all around the world but could not find them.
Please do not hide the shortcomings of your theory with Bhaktimarg stories which are not mentioned in the Sakar Murlis or Avyakt Vanis. Nobody will be ready to accept your imaginary stories. The other day you were cautioning PBKs on Bhakti stories. Now you are narrating the same stories.

If your Mama reveals herself only to 108 souls, what are you doing here in this world of five elements? Should you not be with your Mama either through your subtle body or through your intellect? Why do you waste so much of your precious time and energy with us mortals?
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arjun wrote:
If your Mama reveals herself only to 108 souls, what are you doing here in this world of five elements? Should you not be with your Mama either through your subtle body or through your intellect? Why do you waste so much of your precious time and energy with us mortals?
God ShivBaba personified ( ie. Mama ) and her 108 children wil be revealed together as it is said in Vanis : "Jo bap ka janam din wohi bacchon ka janam din " (the Father and children will share the same birthday)....so in future when the real shivjayanti will take place, then 108 souls will also be revealed at the same time.

It is from the mortals that 108 will be selected and it is the duty of those who have recognised their combined mat-pita(no. 1 shivshakti) to give the knowledge about the spiritual parents(ruhani mat-pita) to other potential 108 souls.
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arjun wrote: If your Mama reveals herself only to 108 souls, what are you doing here in this world of five elements? Should you not be with your Mama either through your subtle body or through your intellect? ...
This is so funny! :D
Arjun you have the charm to light up this forum.

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shivsena wrote:God ShivBaba personified ( ie. Mama ) and her 108 children wil be revealed together as it is said in Vanis : "Jo bap ka janam din wohi bacchon ka janam din " (the Father and children will share the same birthday)....so in future when the real shivjayanti will take place, then 108 souls will also be revealed at the same time.
You seem to be confusing us always. :confused: Sometimes u say that Mama and 108 will remain in the Subtle Region and never come among mortals and sometimes you say that Mama will be revealed along with 108 in this world. How will she be revealed in this world? Will she enter in your body or will she shine in the world with a subtle body? In case she is not going to enter in anyone or if she is not going to take rebirth how will she be revealed?
It is from the mortals that 108 will be selected and it is the duty of those who have recognised their combined mat-pita(no. 1 shivshakti) to give The Knowledge about the spiritual parents(ruhani mat-pita) to other potential 108 souls.
Since you have already recognized Om Radhey Mama as no.1 soul, I think only 107 potential souls are yet to recognize her, is not it? ;-)
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shivsena wrote: The same applies to all PBKs also, who better do a thourough checking inside before preaching to BKs about Ak (jhooti Gita)
Since you think all of us are wrong, when do you and your team of ex pbk's plan to reveal the truth to the rest of the world?

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nivi wrote:Since you think all of us are wrong, when do you and your team of ex PBK's plan to reveal the truth to the rest of the world?
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Truth will reveal itself in due time....it is untruth which has to be revealed first...and i know with 100% certainity that AK is nothing but jhooti Gita(untruth) preached by Baba dixit(Bharat) to make Bharat into jhoot khand....once this is accepted by every pbk then truth will reveal itself.
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arjun wrote:
You seem to be confusing us always.
This whole Godly knowledge is meant to be confusing.
It has been said in Murlis : "yeh Gyan bahut at-pataa, chat-pataa aur khat-pataa hai."[ meaning: "this knowledge is very confusing(strange)...very difficult to understand(and causes restlessness) and it also causes lot of arguments and debates ie. it creates khat-pat (friction) between souls.]
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shivsena wrote:
Truth will reveal itself in due time....it is untruth which has to be revealed first...and i know with 100% certainity that AK is nothing but jhooti Gita(untruth) preached by Baba dixit(Bharat) to make Bharat into jhoot khand....once this is accepted by every PBK then truth will reveal itself.


It is truth that has to be revealed first, then your baseless speculation will be revealed as false automatically and also you will be drowning your mateeshwari when the moment your intellect grasps the truth as shown in the picture of ladder that idols of deities are drowned.
This whole Godly knowledge is meant to be confusing.
only to those who have a confuse mind and those who run from pillar to post.

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Regardless of any events taking place in the Yagya one very important slogan has stayed constant all this time..Baba has already said "Remember Shiv Baba alone and no one else." (Ek ShivBaba aur doosra na koi)! We can show regards and respect for Devi, but our mind should not get distracted or side tracked with Devi Mata because that will cause attachment, which is also a vice. In constant remembrance of One Shiv Baba alone our sins of 63 births get burnt there is no need to get side tracked with other thoughts.

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shivsena wrote:This whole Godly knowledge is meant to be confusing.
It has been said in Murlis : "yeh Gyan bahut at-pataa, chat-pataa aur khat-pataa hai."[ meaning: "this knowledge is very confusing(strange)...very difficult to understand(and causes restlessness) and it also causes lot of arguments and debates ie. it creates khat-pat (friction) between souls.]
When you accept that your version of knowledge is also confusing then why do you blame Baba Dixit alone???? Is it not your double standards?
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nivi wrote:.Baba has already said "Remember Shiv Baba alone and no one else." (Ek ShivBaba aur doosra na koi)!
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The whole knowledge is about recognising the yartharth roop of ShivBaba.
BKs feel that ShivBaba is bindi.....PBKs feel that ShivBaba is shiv+prajapita.
And imo, ShivBaba is neither of the above.....it is no. 1 shivshakti.(Mama, who had all the qualites of ShivBaba imbibed in her 100% and which i do not see in either of the chariots (DL or VD)....That is the basis of arguments of the three groups.
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arjun wrote: When you accept that your version of knowledge is also confusing then why do you blame Baba Dixit alone???? Is it not your double standards?
The whole knowledge in Murlis was given in some code form and difficult to understand...then baba dixit came and further complicated the already complex Murlis and created more confusion in the minds of PBKs and caused a split in the bk-pbk family...so whom do i blame the present mess we all are in...he has made a mess of the Godly knowledge by his AK.....if Baba dixit is Father ShivBaba, then he should have solved the problems and not further increased them.
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shivsena wrote:The whole knowledge in Murlis was given in some code form and difficult to understand...then Baba dixit came and further complicated the already complex Murlis and created more confusion in the minds of PBKs and caused a split in the BK-PBK family...so whom do i blame the present mess we all are in...he has made a mess of the Godly knowledge by his AK.....if Baba dixit is Father ShivBaba, then he should have solved the problems and not further increased them.
One can understand why you say that BKs or PBKs are confused. But now that you have found out the yathaarth form of ShivBaba or Shivshakti, why are you still confused and making others confused and putting the blame on Baba Dixit? It only shows that you have not yet realized the real form of ShivBaba and are just making assumptions based on your churnings.
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