arjun wrote: This is what I am stressing on. Why is Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit alone being subjected to minute dissection when he has never claimed that he is playing the part of ShivBaba?
Why aren't the BKWSU being subjected to the same questioning when they openly claim that God is coming in Gulzar Dadi?
This is an open lie.
What has Virendra Dev Dixit been doing since 1970s ??? And not just him alone. Many BKs too joined him in questioning BKWSU. And this is how the present AIVV has been established. And even now the followers are questioning and advertising against BKWSU wherever it is possible for them including this forum.
Arjun,
how do you think I came to Virendra Dev Dixit? It is because the BKWSU was questioned about their claims of God coming in Gulzar Dadi. And I as a BK when came across this, I too got this question in my mind. And for anyone when there is no satisfactory answer from BKs they have no choice left but to leave their theory. But the difficulty of those people did not end there.
Those people like myself, even after following Virendra Dev Dixit for more than a decade accepting his theories despite the contradictions in them, are told by Virendra Dev Dixit on one fine day that when did he claim to be ShivBaba's part? So, what are all his followers doing there? Do they have the capacity to recognise Shiv in Virendra Dev Dixit? If yes then why cannot they ask Shiv in Virendra Dev Dixit directly and get their doubts cleared. We can see even in this forum that there is no one version of explanation by followers of Virendra Dev Dixit to many important points.
arjun wrote: Why is not shivsena Bhai being subjected to the same questioning when he claims to have a knowledge higher than Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit? Just because he speaks of a fairy Godmother who cannot be made accountable, he is being let scot-free by the die-hard critics of Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit?
This is just your imagination.
Who says that Shivsena is not questioned?
And, it is utter shamelessness to write such a response by a senior follower of Virendra Dev Dixit. Does Arjun want to compare Shivsena with Virendra Dev Dixit?
There is lots of difference in what Shivsena is doing and what Virendra Dev Dixit has been doing.
Shivsena is still not hundred percent sure of his theories. And he is not claiming to be ShivBaba himself. He is not creating a group of followers and claiming to give his followers inheritence in this birth. And he is not trying to instigate women folk to become Gopis of him.
But Virendra Dev Dixit has been doing all this and has amassed wealth in crores in the form of buildings and has got into relation with many women giving his explanations of Murlis. And has been doing all this for more than three decades now. And still does not want himself to be questioned or analysed !!!
And his followers like you start blaming anyone who questions the theories of Virendra Dev Dixit. That is not fair.
arjun wrote: Neither the God of BKWSU (incorporeal Shiv through subtle Brahma) can be made answerable nor the God of shivsena Bhai (incorporeal Shiv+subtle Om Radhey) can be made answerable because they do not have any appointed Chariot at all. So, their respective followers (BKs and members like shivsena and sachkhand) can get away with making any accusation or for making any false claim while Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit who is in his physical body and is answerable to the entire world is being subjected to defamation. Is this justified?
And what great accountability has Virendra Dev Dixit shown in all these three decades although openly spreading the information that a guy from UP (Farrukhabadi in particular) who studied in Ahmedabad (Ahem-da-badi) and got in connection with BK knowledge after the departure of DL is the actual appointed Chariot of Shiv because that guy was actually Shewakram in his previous birth through whom DL actually got the explanation of his visions because Shiv actually entered in Shewakram first which can be proved by the fact that Dl was not at all of the age sixty in 1936 when Shiv first talked.
:-? But still, even now Virendra Dev Dixit has no accountability at all and his followers too openly state that Virendra Dev Dixit never claimed to be ShivBaba or Ram etc.,
pbkindiana wrote: Just want to inform generally that Baba Dixit has never claimed or declared that He is Shiva's appointed Chariot or Prajapita or Shankar or Ram. When a question was raised that whether He is Ram, Baba Dixit replied that --I am not Ram.
Based on AK teachings, the PBKs realized that He is the personified form of ShivBaba and AIVV expanded on the basis of the faith and belief that Baba Dixit is the appointed Chariot of Shiva.
So whoever wants to accuse Baba Dixit that He declared himself as the personifed form of ShivBaba, please provide the concrete proof of His acclamation.
indie.
In Hindi it is said "Toh ab tak kya zhak maar rahe thaey kya?" Please get it translated in English from someone who knows English really very well. I too do not know the real meaning of it but is used as a slang in Hindi to question someone what was he/she doing all this time afterall?
IS LYING OPENLY FOR MORE THAN THREE DECADES JUSTIFIED? VEERENDRA DEV DIXIT AND HIS FOLLOWERS HAVE BEEN OPENLY LYING SINCE MORE THAN THREE DECADES AND ARE STILL SPREADING THE SAME LIE. IS THIS JUSTIFIED?
There are many people who have their faith insomeone. Just recently Puttapurthi Sai Baba passed away. There are many throughout the world who claim him to be God. But they say it openly and directly. Why are Virendra Dev Dixit and his followers hesitating to say openly and directly what they have been spreading since more than three decades? I am not at all questioning their faith in Virendra Dev Dixit. But I am questioning their irresponsible way of behaviour.
:neutral:
Sanjeev.
