pro publico bono

[Sach_Khand]

Since BKs influence most of the big publishing houses (newspapers/magazines/TV companies), nobody is ready to publish articles related to the PBKs. Therefore, it may be possible that some PBKs have used such free websites to air their views.

And why does the big publishing houses (newspapers/magazines/TV companies) not ready to publish articles related to the PBKs? Because they shy away from taking the responsibilty of what they preach. How can any publishing houses (or newspapers/magazines/TV companies) write or show about someone (i.e., Virendra Dev Dixit) who does not accept openly what is spoken through himself? They will not air your views. They will air something of which you take responsibility.

If PBKs are actually knowledgeful and are confident about their understanding then why are they running behind BKs since 1970s? At that time even BKs were not as popular as they are now. If Virendra Dev Dixit and his followers had gone public like BKs since 1970s then possibly they would have been in the better place than BKs now. Because according to PBKs they have Truth with them and not BKs. Even now if any one PBK is really totally confident about Virendra Dev Dixit's part as The GodFather, then they can even now go directly to any news channel with total responsibilities of the consequences. When TV channels can waste their time for people like Nityananda, then why cannot they air your Truth (but not just your views). So first get yourself confident about your knowledge and then the rest will automatically follow. There is no need for you to advertise The GodFather. As per my knowledge even Virendra Dev Dixit opposes advertisement.

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Sanjeev.

[arjun]

God or Godly knowledge does not require advertisement which the BKs require in order to run their business.

Some PBKs have written to Newspapers, Magazines, Heads of Governments, Heads of Judiciaries, Heads of Police Departments of many countries with all their personal details, but hardly any of the above has guts to take any action against the BKWSU. One corrupt person shields another corrupt person in the world. This is what goes on in the Brahmin family and in the outside world. But one day truth will definitely prevail. It is only a matter of time.

The above Member has so many advices for PBKs. But if he has courage he should ask the BKWSU to make all the Murlis public. When the religious texts of all the major religions are available publicly, why does BKWSU fear making the words of God public. It only shows that they do not have faith in God's words. The other day a BK member of this forum was telling that ShivBaba speaks lies. This is the kind of faith they have. That is why they hide the words of God. If they have courage they should put all the Murlis on their official website just as PBKs have done without any fear. In case of PBKs the person through whom the words were spoken is still alive. When he is not afraid for his life, why should the BKWSU fear publishing Sakar Murlis which were spoken through Brahma Baba who is no longer alive? If they still fear for their life, it only shows that they do not have faith in God or His words.

[Sach_Khand]

God or Godly knowledge does not require advertisement which the BKs require in order to run their business.

Yes, BKs are doing it because it is said in Murlis to do so. So that in the end they are not to be blamed for not telling them about GodFathers coming to this world to tranform it.
But, why are the followers of Virendra Dev Dixit do this? Becuase Virendra Dev Dixit does not like advertisement and has spoken against advertisement, that too in the way you are doing.

Some PBKs have written to Newspapers, Magazines, Heads of Governments, Heads of Judiciaries, Heads of Police Departments of many countries with all their personal details, but hardly any of the above has guts to take any action against the BKWSU.

What have the PBKs written about? Only their complaints against BKs or the knowledge you (followers of Virendra Dev Dixit) preach?

[1] If PBKs have written against BKs, against what yuo have written?
(a) Against how the BKs do not follow Shrimat?
For this police cannot take any action because their law has nothing to do against such things.
(b) Against how BKs berak the laws of the present worldly governments?
For this there is no need to pray to the people in big posts, rather you can go to police station and lodge FIR against BK institution or any particaular BK whom you find guilty. Or go to court and file a PIL. This is what I can say, as I am not expert in such things.

[2] If PBKs have written about the knowledge preached by Virendra Dev Dixit
(a) Of what use is your knowledge when the preacher himself does not accept his own preachings openly. We have discussed about this many times in different posts of this forum. And all the time PBKs say that Virendra Dev Dixit never accepts himself as Prajapita or as Shankar or that Shiv is giving knowledge through him. Then on what basis should the media people write about your perachings. Should they just write about your stories that there was a Sevakram and Shiv came in himfirst and not in Dada Lekharaj? You do not have even Murli points to prove your claim.
Please stop writing childish arguements.

One corrupt person shields another corrupt person in the world. This is what goes on in the Brahmin family and in the outside world. But one day truth will definitely prevail. It is only a matter of time.

So why not Virendra Dev Dixit show his truthfulness by accepting what he preaches. Let him accept that he is Prajapita or Shankar or Sangamyugi Krishna. Are not the PBKs corrupt people that are shielding Virendra Dev Dixit and his corrupt practises. They preach one thing to their inner group and tell something else to the outside people. Even in the internet PKs have made distinction between the knowledge that has to be given to PBKs and BKs and other people. Why, what is the need? Are you not shielding something from commonman?

The above Member has so many advices for PBKs. But if he has courage he should ask the BKWSU to make all the Murlis public. When the religious texts of all the major religions are available publicly, why does BKWSU fear making the words of God public. It only shows that they do not have faith in God's words.

It is clearly said in Murlis that if people do not accept about Alaf, it is waste preaching to them. First the knowledge about Alaf, Trimurti has to be given. And only when they can understand or show interest in understanding this, only then the rest is of use to them. They do not want to make Murlis public because people like Virendra Dev Dixit will use them just to make noise and ho hallah and will just use their panditya to give their wrong interpretations. If anyone genuinely has interest, then he can go to BK classes and hear to Murlis.
Or you can go to court and demand for Murlis. Wen Virendra Dev Dixit and his followers themselves have Murlis of many many years, why not they take interest in publishing them in the internet?

Virendra Dev Dixit even after more than three decades of claiming himself to be Prajapita and teacher's part of ShivBaba(although not directly) he is not able to explain many Murli points and keep changing his explanations. I accept that Virendra Dev Dixit has raised some very important questions. But just raising questions is not our aim. Our aim is to understand and make others understand Murlis correctly.

The other day a BK member of this forum was telling that ShivBaba speaks lies. This is the kind of faith they have.

Are you not ashamed of using this as an excuse to blame BKs as a whole.
I had not expected such a thing from you.
O.K.. let us accept that mbbhat has no faith in ShivBaba. So what? That does not in any way prove that you have faith in the words of Virendra Dev Dixit whom you consider as ShivBaba. And also it does not prove that rest of the BKs do not have faith in the words of ShivBaba.
Whether they have or not, what does that in any way help in giving the knowledge of ShivBaba. If you or any PBK have faith in the words of Virendra Dev Dixit, then proceed in your service openly instead of going behind BKs and literally hunting them (as is said by Virendra Dev Dixit in his course classes).

That is why they hide the words of God. If they have courage they should put all the Murlis on their official website

Do not speak childish. If BKs had not any faith in the words spoken through Dada Lekharaj, then they would not have gone to the whole world to tell the people that Supreme Soul has come and has given knowledge through Dada Lekharaj. Yes, BKs fear. But not about the people's reaction to their claim that Supreme Soul Shiv has come. But rather they fear people like Virendra Dev Dixit and his followers who are just interested in putting blockades in the Godly service. Do you really have understood Murlis correctly? Has Virendra Dev Dixit really understood Murlis correctly? Do some introspection.

just as PBKs have done without any fear.

Have they really? Then why not publish all the Murlis that Virendra Dev Dixit and his followers have in the internet? What are you afraid of?
Those who have responsibilites of some work on their shoulders fear those people who are more interested in spreading chaos and create problems in Godly service.

In case of PBKs the person through whom the words were spoken is still alive. When he is not afraid for his life, why should the BKWSU fear publishing Sakar Murlis which were spoken through Brahma Baba who is no longer alive? If they still fear for their life, it only shows that they do not have faith in God or His words.

The question about fearing is not about putting Murlis in the net or not. Question is about accepting what you preach. God of BKs had faith in Himself and His Chariot and openly accepted what He spoke through His Chariot and even the Chariot had faith in his God.
But what is Virendra Dev Dixit and his God doing?
Neither God of Virendra Dev Dixit has faith in Himself to openly accept His part. Nor the Chariot, Virendra Dev Dixit, has faith in his God. Virendra Dev Dixit has said that he has not experienced ShivBaba within him. So, why is he preaching wrong things and spreading wrong information? If Virendra Dev Dixit actually had faith in his God and HIs part through him, then Virendra Dev Dixit should have accepted his part of Shankar openly. I think he and his followers are deceiving people.

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Sanjeev.

[arjun]

Om Shanti.
The above member has not given a single rational reason why the BKs are hiding the Murlis from the world.

As regards PBKs publishing the BK Murlis, the above Member or BKs have no moral right to expect PBKs to do that because it is the duty of the BKs. PBKs are doing their duty. PBKs have made public all their clarification Murlis, discussion classess in typed as well as audio/video form on their website http://www.PBKs.info, whereas BKs have not made public even a single Murli. However, there are a huge number of BK Murlis available in the library section of http://www.brahmakumaris.info which have been provided by the PBKs to the Admin of that site and I think they have also acknowledged that fact. So, PBKs cannot be blamed for not sharing BK Murlis with the public. Even on this forum I have been reproducing extracts of BK Sakar Murlis everyday since last one or two years (viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1267&start=0). So, the above Member has no moral right to criticize the PBKs on this front.

Rest of the arguements and defamatory words written by the above Member are the same that he has written several times on this forum and replied by me. Therefore they do not merit any reply once again. He can continue to defame PBKs as much as possible.

[arjun]

Another link sent to me by the Inforpoint Team.
http://www.janokti.com/2010/07/01/%e0%a ... %e0%a4%95/

[shivsena]

May i ask arjun Bhai as to what is the purpose of starting this topic "pro publico bono" in the pbk section !!!!... Is it to show other PBKs how some incognito PBKs are doing service of propagating advance knowledge and criticising bk knowledge through some other blog sites....or is to do service of BKs on this forum.....if it is the latter then you should have started this topic in the bk section and not in pbk section which is mainly reserved for exchanging views regarding advance knowledge and not for propangada about what or how some icognito PBKs are doing bk service.

shivsena.

[Sach_Khand]

Om Shanti.
Rest of the arguements and defamatory words written by the above Member are the same that he has written several times on this forum and replied by me. Therefore they do not merit any reply once again. He can continue to defame PBKs as much as possible.

Even we have argued about the topic of Murlis being not made public. What was the need for yuo to reply to this point.

It is your way of running away from answering to the basic questions raised by some ex PBKs. No wonder you have once again written the same old thing.

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Sanjeev.

[Sach_Khand]

Om Shanti.
The above member has not given a single rational reason why the BKs are hiding the Murlis from the world.

The reason is people like Virendra Dev Dixit and his followers.

You people say that Virendra Dev Dixit is Supreme Teacher. O.K. He is explaining the text (Murlis and Avyakt Vanis). O.K.
But it is already more than three decades since Virendra Dev Dixit has projected himself as Supreme Teacher.
But still,
(1) Many PBKs themselves do not have clear understanding and many PBKs give different opinions regarding many important points of Murlis. And we have witnessed such incidents in this forum itself.
(2) Virendra Dev Dixit has never openly accepted that he is Supreme Teacher,
(3) There are many important points which are not explained still and many times we have seen Virendra Dev Dixit just avoiding questions and changing the topic.

Untill recently i.e., untill when the so called PBKs were not literally hunting BKs and giving their manmat and wrong Murli explanations, we or any BK could get the Murlis and Avyakt Vanis whenever we asked for them in the centre. But when the followers of Virendra Dev Dixit started doing mischeifs the Murlis were not freely available for any common BK.
If any so called PBK thinks that Murlis should be given to general public then it is foolish idea. When pundits like Virendra Dev Dixit could not understand them and has started doing disservice using the Murlis, of what use it would be to give it to the general public.
Anyone who has actually understood Murlis can explain the knowledge using just few Murlis. But pundits will need lots and lots of them because they do not actually want to explain (because they have not understood themselves) but just create confusion amongst the BK students and increase their followers.
As Virendra Dev Dixit views BK instituion as a worldly business of religion, he has started his own business.

Any commonman can go to BK centre and get the course and if he is really interested then he/she can attend daily Murli classes. So, there is no question of hiding Murlis. Yes, Murlis are not given to the people who want to use them just to create confusion and misunderstanding. Why should anyone accept the explanations of some person (unless He is The GodFather's part)? But Virendra Dev Dixit is not that part. So, no question of accepting his explanations. And if Virendra Dev Dixit is GodFather's part then whatever the part tells is direct Murli. Why do they need those paper Murlis? That means Virendra Dev Dixit wants to study more Murlis and understand them so that he can prove himself right. How funny? It is said in Murlis that ShivBaba tells the summary of Bhaktimarg scriptures. But here, the God of so called PBKs needs Murlis to study and understand them so that he can prove himself as GodFather. bullsh**. GodFather will not be revealed by such things.

So, it is clear that Virendra Dev Dixit and his followers are just using Murlis to do disservice. And why should Murlis be given to such people?

For commonman, they can go to classes whenever they want and hear to Murlis in the daily classes.
Yes, it is seen that BKs edit Murlis. It is because they are afraid of these pundits, who are not interested in doing service but are interested in creating confusion and chaos amongst BK students. Many BKs who had gone to Virendra Dev Dixit hearing his questions about Murli points and his explanations. But now many of them have left because, Virendra Dev Dixit too is not able to give correct explanations (I too am one such person who has left). So what great cause is Virendra Dev Dixit and his followers serving? Just creating confusion among Bk students and diverting hteir mind to the person Virendra Dev Dixit.

By writing this I am not accepting that editing Murli is correct. But people who are not faithful to God do this. Only eight are actually faithful to God and do Godly service according to His directions and do not get punishment in the end. Rest all do some or the other mistakes. And BKs (not all BKs, because the eight too are BKs) too are doing some mistakes and will get the returns accordingly.

As regards PBKs publishing the BK Murlis, the above Member or BKs have no moral right to expect PBKs to do that because it is the duty of the BKs. PBKs are doing their duty.

If it is not your duty then what is your duty? Just creating confusion !? What else you are doing?
When the Murlis are BK Murlis, then why are you interested in them? What right do you have to ask for them? BapDada is there to take care of the BKs and their Murlis. There is no need of Virendra Dev Dixit and his followers to take care of them. As you run away when questions are asked to you , similarly BKs are silent because they cannot answer. It is that simple. If you are knowledgeful, then please give correct understanding. Why is Virendra Dev Dixit and his followers like you shy away from the questions?

Rest of the arguements and defamatory words written by the above Member are the same that he has written several times on this forum and replied by me. Therefore they do not merit any reply once again. He can continue to defame PBKs as much as possible.

You must understand that same is true for Virendra Dev Dixit and his followers who are defaming BKs.

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Sanjeev.

[arjun]

Om Shanti. As regards the allegation of the above member that BKs are not making the Murlis because of the fear of its misuse by the PBKs, I wish to say that PBKs can also give the same excuse and deny the advance knowledge to the people of the world, but PBKs do not have any such fear despite Members like the above one misusing the advance knowledge being made public on this forum to defame the PBKs.

So, the above Member and all those BKs who agree with his ideas can continue to hide the Godly knowledge from the public. God's task will not stop because of such efforts being made by them. Over to the above Member for another big post full of defamation of PBKs :D

[arjun]

For some material related to the Advance knowledge in French pls see:

http://cycledutemps.blog.fr/

[Sach_Khand]

Om Shanti. As regards the allegation of the above member that BKs are not making the Murlis because of the fear of its misuse by the PBKs,

Your logic is faulty Mr. Arjun.
BKs accept that they do not completely understand Murlis. Each is free to study and have his own view of Murlis. They can even share their views.
But what Virendra Dev Dixit and his followers are doing is very much different.
Virendra Dev Dixit has projected himself to be Supreme Teacher (but never accepts it openly). And more than three decades have passed after this. But still Virendra Dev Dixit is not coming out with clear knowledge. PBKs are leaving because they are not getting the explanations to the Murlis which Virendra Dev Dixit had claimed he would give since he was considered to be The Supreme Teacher. We have seen in this forum about how PBKs are having different opinions to different important Murli points.
When Virendra Dev Dixit has established his business of teaching on this projection (himself being the part of Supreme Teacher), why has he not delivered untill now? And although Virendra Dev Dixit is not able to prove what he has projected himself to be, still Virendra Dev Dixit and his followers want the BKs to surrender themselves and the institution to Virendra Dev Dixit? Are you people in your senses?
On what basis should they do this? A single BK like the member Arjun can leave BK institution and surrender to Virendra Dev Dixit. But still, this member is not understanding Murlis correctly and cannot give correct explanation to the important Murli points, although he has been student of The Supreme Teacher, Virendra Dev Dixit, since more than a decade. What kind of teacher and students are these people? Can any sensible person just surrender himself /herself and the institution to any such person like Virendra Dev Dixit.
This man, Virendra Dev Dixit, does not accept openly about his part or Shiv being Teacher through him. Neither is he able to give correct expalantions to important Murli points. Virendra Dev Dixit had projected some souls in Bk to be having some special parts. Now it is not considered as true by the same Virendra Dev Dixit. So, what is Virendra Dev Dixit upto? Above all this, Virendra Dev Dixit projects himself as Shankar and has sex with women followers of him. He says that by sex the women followers get purified. Do Virendra Dev Dixit and his followers want all BK sisters to share bed with this Virendra Dev Dixit? Because this is what Virendra Dev Dixit explains about his part, although not directly. Just imagine, can any sensible women share bed with such man, who never accepts about his part openly and also does not have correct knowledge about Murli points, but still claims to be The Supreme Teacher. Afterall, what is the intention of Virendra Dev Dixit and his followers? If some women are having sexual urge which they cannot get fulfilled in the Bk institution, then such women can leave BK institution. Why do they need a pretext of having advance knowledge? Some Bk sisters have left BKs and become followers of Virendra Dev Dixit but what is their state now?
So, can Murlis be given to such people? Are these people not misusing Murlis, as the corrupt religious people of the world use their respective religious texts to fulfill their selfish motives? It is disgusting to see such people being so shamelessly courageous and adamant.

I wish to say that PBKs can also give the same excuse and deny the Advanced Knowledge to the people of the world, but PBKs do not have any such fear despite Members like the above one misusing the Advanced Knowledge being made public on this forum to defame the PBKs.

Regarding the advance knowledge of Virendra Dev Dixit. What is this?
This is just misinterpretation of Murlis of ShivBaba spoken through Dada Lekharaj (Brahma Baba). Murlis or God's words are being used for selfish purpose. Even some BKs are misusing. But Virendra Dev Dixit and his followers are in the front and are misusing them for all their needs. Even to fulfill their sexual needs and destroy the BK institution. They are just interested to take over the BK institution. There is nothing more than that. NO knowledge or anything spiritual about Virendra Dev Dixit and his followers. If they are so much interested inspreading the word of the so callled God's part through Virendra Dev Dixit, then they would have gone public long back, because they consider Virendra Dev Dixit's part was revealed in 1976. Do they really care for to give their so called advance knowledge to the people?

So, the above Member and all those BKs who agree with his ideas can continue to hide the Godly knowledge from the public. God's task will not stop because of such efforts being made by them. Over to the above Member for another big post full of defamation of PBKs :D

BKs are not hiding the Godly knowledge. They are doing Murli classes daily in every BK centre. Anyone wo is really interested can go and attend them. But people like Virendra Dev Dixit and his followers who are not interested in hearing and understanding Murlis but are more interested in confusing others and literally hunting them to increase the followes of Virendra Dev Dixit are not welcomed there. And the reason is that Virendra Dev Dixit is an imposter who cannot give true expalantions of Murlis despite of his claim as being The Supreme Teacher since 1976.
Let us see whether the laughing will remain in the coming days or they will need to cry for their misdoings.

:neutral:
Sanjeev.

[arjun]

Om Shanti. I congratulate the above Member for showing the patience to repeat the same defamation once again. :cool:

[shivsena]

To all pbk brothers.

I am presenting below a part of the English translation of audio cassette 171-side B, where the soul who is playing the role of Ravan is described by Baba Dixit.....is he hinting that Dadi prakashmani played the role of Ravan in the brahmin family ????....while some incognito PBKs on other blog sites are preaching that DL played the role of Ravan.... and arjun Bhai himself believes that DL played the role of HK(hiranya-kashyap).

Can any pbk please explain who is the soul playing the role of Ravan according to Baba Dixit's explanation.

Also if prakashmani Dadi played the role of Ravan according to Baba Dixit, then after her demise Ram-rajya should have been established in the bk-pbk family.....but since Ram-rajya has still not been established then does it not mean that somewhere Ravan is still alive in the bk-pbk family.....so who is this incognito Ravan ???? [ as it has been said in Murlis: "naa Ram ko koi jaante aur naa Ravan ko koi jaante"]
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Side-b of audio cassette 171 describing "who is Ravan".

Ravan is the eldest enemy. All the others are new. How old is he? 2500 years old. Which soul came 2500 years ago? From the Supreme Abode? Abraham. Is he Ravan? He is a soul in the satopradhan stage that comes from the Supreme Abode, from the Father’s Home. The satopradhan soul will be satopradhan, so will it perform satopradhan actions or will it perform tamopradhan actions? [Students: Satopradhan.] Will it be called Ravan? Are the belief in Ravan and [ceremony] of burning Ravan present in Bharat or abroad? [Students: Bharat.] Foreigners do not believe in Ravan. So, it is about which place? It is about the world of the Brahmins in the Confluence Age. There is a Brahmin among those Brahmins who becomes tamopradhan right at the beginning of the Copper Age. His intellect becomes tamsi, because he doesn’t study [God’s] teachings fully. The satopradhan soul of Abraham in the satopradhan stage enters that tamsi intellect. So, the soul coming from above will not be called Ravan. The one in whom he enters is a soul belonging to the Ancient Deity Religion. It becomes the form of Ravan. The one in whom [Abraham’s soul] entered became the mother of Islam. Just like Brahma is the mother of the Ancient Deity Religion and ShivBaba is the Father. In the same way Abraham is the Father and the one in whom he entered is the mother of that religion. And someone will be the Father giving birth to that mother. There will be someone giving birth to that human being in whom Abraham enters. The one who gives birth to that one, to the support (adhar)<!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><!--[endif]--> was the male face of Ravan. And that first one was female face, the support, the form of root [of the religion]. Among the ones who have been shown in the picture of the Tree as sitting in the roots, one main root goes to the left side, Abraham. And someone is the seed giving birth to that root. So they are the oldest enemy. In the world of the Brahmins in the Confluence Age they are the eldest enemies.
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[Sach_Khand]

Om Shanti. I congratulate the above Member for showing the patience to repeat the same defamation once again. :cool:

Should I congratulate the above member for the limit of hypocrisy he shows in his replies? :-? .
I think that it is not a thing to be congratulated, but is a pitiful thing.

I do not have any problem with the above member or any followers of Virendra Dev Dixit. They can continue with their faith. But, I hope they will allow others too to do purusharth according to their understanding and faith. And I hope the followers of Virendra Dev Dixit will stop defaming BKs and other students of ShivBaba and leave them to study and do purusharth on their own. When the followers of Virendra Dev Dixit cannot give satisfactory explanations to Murli points despite of their claim of having Supreme Teacher, then they do not have any right to force others to accept their explanations or not to have their own interpretations of Murlis.

I sincerely feel that explanations given by Virendra Dev Dixit are not true. But still, I hope that the indirect claim made by Virendra Dev Dixit turns out to be true and if it is so, then I congratulate the above member and other faithful followers of Virendra Dev Dixit for their faith in Virendra Dev Dixit as ShivBaba. It does not matter whether I lose my better inheritence from ShivBaba. But I will be truly happy for the above member and other faithful followers of Virendra Dev Dixit for their service despite of the problems they had to face from members like me.

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Sanjeev.

[Sach_Khand]

To all PBK Brothers.

I am presenting below a part of the English translation of audio cassette 171-side B, where the soul who is playing the role of Ravan is described by Baba Dixit.....is he hinting that Dadi prakashmani played the role of Ravan in the Brahmin family ????....while some incognito PBKs on other blog sites are preaching that DL played the role of Ravan.... and arjun Bhai himself believes that DL played the role of HK(hiranya-kashyap).

Can any PBK please explain who is the soul playing the role of Ravan according to Baba Dixit's explanation.

Also if prakashmani Dadi played the role of Ravan according to Baba Dixit, then after her demise Ram-rajya should have been established in the BK-PBK family.....but since Ram-rajya has still not been established then does it not mean that somewhere Ravan is still alive in the BK-PBK family.....so who is this incognito Ravan ???? [ as it has been said in Murlis: "naa Ram ko koi jaante aur naa Ravan ko koi jaante"]
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I hope the famous Arjun will answer. Afterall he is student of The Supreme Teacher who is sanmukh and not dead like Dada Lekharaj.

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Sanjeev.