On 8th of July, in one of the threads of this Section ("a list of questions to PBKs") while quoting shivsena Bhai's statement I wrote:
shivsena wrote:Baba dixit(no. 1 dehdhari ie Krishna)as playing the part of personified Ravan(kalaa part)
Suppose someone starts claiming that Michael Jackson's soul has taken over the body of US President Barrack Obama, and that now onwards MJ is the owner of the body of BO, will all the Court cases (if any) pending against MJ be transferred to Barrack Obama's name? Will everyone start addressing BO as MJ? :D
In response to this shivsena Bhai wrote on 9.7.09:
Dear arjun Bhai.
If MJ has left the body and has entered BO then it would be very easy to tell who is in charge of the body; If MJ's soul overpowers Obama's soul and he starts yelling music and starts dancing, instead of talking about administration of USA, then it can be very easily identified that MJ has taken over obama's body. The sanskars(characteristic) of the soul who empowers another body is self-evident.
Similarly, If PBKs claim that there are 3 souls in the body of Virendra Dev Dixit, then it can be very easily identified as to who is giving advance knowledge. If it was omnipotent supreme Shiva giving knowledge, then HE would have maintained unity and chadti kalaa of brahmins right from day one. If it was Ram's soul, then he would have also done exactly the same thing as Father Shiva as he is going to become like Shiva (Bap-samaan) and he would have made all souls like him, as it is said in Murlis that " Bap aakar aap-samaan banate hain". But since none of this has happened in Advance Party, it is very easy to deduct that it is Krishna(Bharat) who is in control of body of Virendra Dev Dixit, and who has to take himself and others in girti kalaa during brahma ki raat as per the Murli mahavakya: "Bharat giraa toh sab girae, Bharat ka uthaan toh vishwa(pbk) ka uthaan". It is so very simple and logical; just requires a deep study of Murlis and Vanis. :cool: ;-)
shivsena.
To this I responded with these words:
In response to this shivsena Bhai wrote on 13.07.09:If you stand by your above statement as also your statement that Dada Lekhraj's soul is incharge of Baba Virendra Dev Dixit's body, then Dada Lekhraj's soul should have performed all those actions that it performed through its own body.
Brahma Baba allowed rakhis to be tied, Bhog to be offered, trance messengers were sent to bring messages, he brought up BKs like Princes and Princesses, built big buildings with as many comforts as possible for the children (while he himself lived in a hut), he allowed BK sisters to wear shorts and shirts while they were in Karachi, he allowed BK sisters to live alone at BK centers, allowed BKs to organize exhibitions, conferences, built museums, allowed himself and other BKs to be photographed, so on and so forth. But none of these has taken place ever since AIVV has been established in 1982-83 and AIVV continues to follow the Shrimat as far as possible. Then how can you say that Dada Lekhraj is the owner of the body of Baba Virendra Dev Dixit?
Dear arjun Bhai.
There is no possibility of any other soul being in charge of the body of Virendra Dev Dixit.
Murli says "Krishna ko ruhani Bap nahin kahenge", So this statement of Shiva proves that Krishna(elder brother) is playing the role through the present body, because when shiv and Ram become combined(ShivBaba), then they become ruhani Bap in future and will talk to ruhani children in future. At present Krishna is talking to jismani PBKs who are his brothers, and it is said in Murlis "Bhai se varsa nahin milta, varsa Bap se milta hai." [ "brother cannot give inheritance, inheritance is received from Father.] ;so it is obvious that since no pbk has received any sort of inheritance so far, then it is Krishna(elder brother) who is in charge of the present body and when Ram=shiv, then PBKs will receive inheritance numberwise.
shivsena.
I replied in the following manner:
Then, shivsena Bhai wrote:You are trying to avoid the question that I have asked. You said that if MJ enters in BO, BO will act like MJ. But I have provided proofs that the soul of DL is not acting like DL when it is present in the body of Baba Virendra Dev Dixit. So, how can you say that DL is incharge of the body of Baba Virendra Dev Dixit?
In response, I wrote:Dear arjun Bhai.
First of all your comparison was not apt and not related to knowledge in any way but then i realised the humour in it.
So thinking you cited a humourous example with your laughing icon, i then returned back the humour with a wink. So let put an end to it and return back to healthy discussion with Murli proofs only.
shivsena.
You might be joking but I am not joking. I am serious and I have given a serious and apt example. I have also given you proofs that Lekhraj Kirpalani is not acting as Lekhraj Kirpalani through the body of Baba Virendra Dev Dixit. So, how can you say that Lekhraj Kirpalani is completely incharge of Baba Dixit's body and is misleading the PBKs? If you think you are joking then it only proves that it is you and not the soul of Lekhraj Kirpalani who is misleading other souls.