AUM shanti
Dear PBKs,
Following are some views of a PBK about my conduct in this forum.
In PBK group, Thread: Confusing Answers, page 1:
on 05 May 2009,
I called you a lawyer because you know very well that this Confluence Age is for
100 years as per Murlis and ShivBaba remains with His children for most part of
it. Despite that you were trying to pass comments to belittle the PBKs by asking
whether ShivBaba comes for a second.
...
Anyway, if, like shivsena Bhai your sole aim and objective of becoming a member
of this forum is to defame PBKs and Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit you are free to do
so. You can continue doing so as long as this forum or this Confluence Age
continues. I wish you good luck.
...
If you wish to treat my silence on any of your questions as your victory you can very well
proudly announce to the world.
The above views about me as per my introspection are not correct.
Although I have written in that thread that I accept what is written (in the second paragraph of the above quote) if it is felt like that after reading my posts, actually then I had not paid attention in hurry while writing my reply. But later while reading that I noticed the words
"sole aim and objective". I would like to clarify that while putting my views there has been the thought of challenging and tit for tat like answers. But I do not have any aim nor intentions to defame any person. But yes I accept that sometimes I feel frustrated with angusih and resentment about Virendra Dev Dixit and PBKs because of their deceptive ways i.e., spreading the word that Virendra Dev Dixit is ShivBaba or Ram and if someone cross questions about this then answering that Virendra Dev Dixit has never said so about himself. And I think, it is natural for anyone to feel frustrated and have resentment for such behaviour of anyone.
Now coming to the main reason of this post. You must have been thinking that
what is this OM PBKs. By OM I mean
"Open Minded'.
I think that we should not deceive ourselves in fear of something. If we think we have not understood or have doubt about some point of ShivBaba's knowledge or about our own experience/s, then we should not suppress our feelings to understand those things. Yes, it is true that the person/people and the place and the time to share those things might be different for different people.
I think this forum is not just a platform for advertising PBK's i.e., Virendra Dev Dixit's interpretations of Murlis.
I have joined this forum just for sharing my views and experiences and even gain from other's views and experiences.
My one important question is that are we to become just mikes of any person or are we to become authorities by understanding and experiencing the knowledge?
If we need to become authorities, then do we not grow by sharing our understanding and feelings and experiences. But, it is true that just OM will not do. We need
Om Shanti i.e., Open Minded but with peace within.
I hope I and others like me will be allowed to share our understanding and feelings and experiences in this forum. If the PBK group and BK group is strictly for their respective hard core supporters, then henceforth I will write all my posts in Commonroom group. And I
Also I request admin that if possible please transfer my previous three recent posts (not this one) in PBK group to commonroom group.
I would share one of my experiences here. This is just to tell how I try to understand things.
From beginning I used to debate with my brother about the concept of God being omnipresent. In BK's knowledge we do not accept this, and if it is so then there is no meaning of ShivBaba coming. But when I came to PBK knowledge I had an experience of complete silence (being somewhere else) when I and some other PBK brothers with Virendra Dev Dixit were sitting in the outside small room of ground floor in Kampil. I was trying to remember Supreme Soul Shiv in Virendra Dev Dixit (because then I beleived so). And also while discussing about the Three Worlds picture (I do not remember exactly how the topic came) Virendra Dev Dixit said that for one who is totally soul conscious, there is no question of coming and going. I had very nice experiences in Kampil. Later I used to feel soul as being everywhere (not for 24 hours but whenever I paid attention). When I returned home (I do not remember after 1st, 2nd or 3rd visit) I started to question this experience and I decided that if soul is everywhere, then why should I go to Kampil. I stopped going. Later a PBK (now he is very close to Virendra Dev Dixit and has served in AIVV a lot) came and asked why I was not coming to Kampil. I explained the reason. He said let the experience be so but still you can come to Kampil. I had been to Kampil afterwards many times. The experience ceased. I wanted to give (i.e., explain and make understand) PBK knowledge to my mother. But she firmly beleive in lokik Guru and God being omnipresent. So inorder to find explanation for this question, I churned knowledge and my experiences a lot.
For this I started by accepting that God is omnipresent and concept of Advaita of lokik people. But after churning knowledge and experiences I came to conclusion that there has to be a Supreme Soul. I repeated this many times, but each time came to the same conclusion. But during this process I started to understand the reason for saying God to be omnipresent.
One more experience: I had returned from Fatehgad where I new a BK who was living in BK centre. I had gone there to tell him about PBK's knowledge. After coming back I narrated what happened there. I said I ate the sweets he gave. Local PBKs were surprised that I ate. Later Virendra Dev Dixit was sitting in the room and I too was there and might be one or two others. And Virendra Dev Dixit just said (as if to himself), "arey, yah to glani karega" meaning Oh, he will do glani(I did not find meaning in English, but I think it means harm or ruin or bring bad reputation or downfall). It appeared to me that it was said about me. And I could not beleive and felt sad, how is it that I will do such a thing. And I prayed that let this not happen. And I think PBKs opinion is that I am doing glani by raising issues and cross questioning them. But, I am not afraid of the consequences because I know my intentions are good. Also Virendra Dev Dixit had questioned when would there be dhadh-pad/dh meaning dhad (weeping aloud, an attack of thieves. Dhadi means a famous dacoit.) -pad(a board, border, framework) or-padh (a raised platform).
I think instead of claiming anything, if we churn Murlis and our experiences with more stress on experiences rather than just what someone says or someone's interpettions, we will reach The GodFather. Claiming something makes us rigid and stubborn. And if we really want to make any statments or claim something, then we should do it directly.
In Avyakt Vani it is said that those who know to mould become real gold. We accept that in Murlis it is said that Knowledge will undergo refining and changing. And in my opinion, The True Gita is yet to be revealed.
I expect PBKs to be open minded and allow others too to express their views. If PBKs think that no one should cross question them even logically then there is no use of forum. Normal websites explaining their Knowledge would do.
(Avyakt Murli 15-11-2008) Those who are images of experience remain constantly unshakeable and immovable in all situations. They do not come into upheaval because they have many authorities, but the greatest authority of all is the authority of experience. If you have the authority of experience, then every power, every point of knowledge and every virtue would be under your orders. Whichever power you invoke, that power will co-operate with you in one second. If you lack the authority of experience, you will have to work hard. Someone who is experienced is a master almighty authority.
(Avyakt BapDada 31/12/2008) Whenever you feel something is difficult, say with your heart, "Baba, My Baba, My Companion, come and help me", and Baba is then bound to help. You' have to say it with your heart though, because you have to see the time and the self.. Time is challenging and you have to challenge Maya. What can she do then?
(Avyakt BapDada 31/12/2008) Experience is the fruit. Do not become dry knowledgeable souls. Be loving, be loving to the Father and you will easily become loving to the family because you are equal to the Father. The Father has love in His heart for even the last child. He sees each one with an attitude of love. So, do not just be knowledgeable, not just those who give lectures, but be an embodiment of giving that feeling of belonging.
No matter, we (for those who do not know or have any doubts) do not know the practical form of The GodFather, but still He hears the calls of True Hearts. And He responds to our Love.
Thanks.
Sanjeev.
