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VCD No.1394, C.No.1880,
at Sehore, Mu.20.12.68+21.12.68
Dt.24.11.10 Part-3


That Father is the seed form of the human creation because He enters the seed of the human creation. After entering him, He is revealed in the world. That very form is the purifier of the sinful ones and He is only the One who purifies the sinful ones. All the others are the ones who make [us] sinful. Sinful ones will make the sinful ones only sinful. Only the one Father is ever pure, who always stays in the stage of the self and all the rest of 5 to 7 billion human souls become impure from pure. They go downwards from above. Even after coming to the sinful world, even after coming in the color of the company of the sinful ones, even after entering the most sinful, lustful thorn the Father never becomes sinful at all. He is never influenced at all. He is not at all colored by the company of anyone.

That Father Himself comes and says, the first leaf of this human creation [i.e.] Krishna, who is praised in the scriptures [to be] in the womb of the Pipal leaf ; that after the time of destruction, Krishna came on the Pipal leaf, in the form of the first leaf. That Krishna also cannot be the purifier of the sinful ones. Why? It is because that leaf also comes in the cycle of birth and death. He comes in the cycle of birth and death in a limited sense and also when the unlimited Father comes in the unlimited elevated Confluence Age, then too, he comes in the cycle of faith and faithlessness. That is why Krishna cannot be the purifier of the sinful ones. Call him Krishna or call him Brahma, it is one and the same thing.

A human being cannot be the purifier of the sinful ones at all. The mind of a human being is inconstant; or let them make the mind constant and prove themselves. Just like the Father Shiva is peaceful (aman), similarly let them prove themselves by making the flow [of the thoughts] of the mind constant. The Father Shiva is the one beyond thinking (aschota), He is always thoughtless (nisankalp); because of being thoughtless He knows the beginning, the middle and the end of the world. He is the Ocean of knowledge. The more someone is knowledgeable; he becomes pure to that extent. If he is always knowledgeable he is pure forever. So, explain such topics in a seminar.

The seminar will be big. Become a speaker after churning the ocean of thoughts well. Then tell them, how peace is established in the world. In the scriptures, Shantideva (the deity of peace) has been praised for establishing peace. Only he can give peace, who himself remains an embodiment of peace in every circumstance, in every problem that comes [his way]. So, what happens from the beginning of the Golden Age till the end of the Iron Age, explain everything. You can narrate the history of the entire cycle. If you keep churning the ocean of thoughts, you will also remember the Father. Your intellect will also keep working, because the knowledge of the entire tree is merged in the Father of the human world. The Father who is thoughtless, who is beyond thinking, Himself enters the Father of the human creation. It is as if the entire knowledge of the human beings, of the human world is merged (present) in the Father of the human creation; which emerges after the Spiritual Father comes. You will keep remembering the Spiritual Father who has entered him. You should keep the goal, “We have to give a speech; we have to wake up the entire human creation by narrating the secrets of the world by speaking in a secret voice”. Then everybody’s life will be benefited. You will also receive the fruit for bringing this benefit.

So, we should look within ourselves, ‘do we remember the Father continuously?’ No human being in the world will know, “What we will become in the future and what we will become for many births.” You come to know: “If we become a prince; then which prince we will become, we will become the prince of which dynasty.” The Father comes and establishes kingship. There are dynasties in kingship, aren’t there? Just like there were the dynasties of the English people: King Edward the first, second, third. Similarly, even in the kingship which the Father establishes after teaching RajYoga there is a dynasty, Narayan the first, second, third. So, we will come to know which prince we will become.
..... (to be continued.)
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VCD No.1394, C.No.1880,
at Sehore, Mu.20.12.68+21.12.68
Dt.24.11.10 Part-4


The picture which is standing in front; these Lakshmi-Narayan are famous. It is not that only these ones become Lakshmi-Narayan, others become that as well. But [the ones who become that ] first are praised. Then others are praised number wise (according to their rank). Nobody else can be praised like the No.1 Lakshmi-Narayan at all. There is no defamation of them in the scriptures. There is the defamation of the 330 million deities [in the scriptures]. There is no defamation of these Lakshmi-Narayan. So, the entire rosary is made. Number wise beads of the gathering are threaded in the rosary. So, you have a stock of many things to explain . Even when you sit in isolation you have to say this ... [i.e.] when you sit in front of every single person to explain , you have to tell them this: “What [are the] various things the unlimited Father teaches us”. Alright (accha), remembrance, love, good night and greetings from the Spiritual Father to the spiritual children.

The next night class is of 21.12.68. Every center should make a show of service to the extent they are required to. Whatever you have learned from the Father, you should narrate it to others as well. You have to explain the secret of the Creator and the creation to everyone. Whatever mistakes have been made in the history of the human world; the history of 2500 years is available to the human beings, isn’t it? You should tell them all those mistakes. You should tell them, the Spiritual Father says, “What I am, the way I am [and] the form in which I play My part; hardly anyone knows it. Otherwise, they forget it again and again in the course of knowing it. They develop a doubtful intellect instead of developing a faithful intellect. This is also a big point to explain.

Now Krishna is not any ordinary [person] whom nobody would know. The beauty of Krishna is extraordinary. Even in the last birth he receives such a beautiful, fair, tall [and] well-built body. So, what not would he be in the previous births! People of the entire world know him. Leave the topic of the Hindus aside, the last religion among the main religions [i.e.] the Christian religion , [those people] also know Lord Krishna. They know that he has a crown of peacock [feathers]. Why was he called [the one having] a crown of peacock [feathers]? Arey! They could have called him [the one having] a crown of crow [feathers]. [When] the British came, [when] they attacked India, they did not bring a crown of peacock [feathers] with them. When Alexander attacked India, he must have brought a crown of cock [feathers] with him, [but] he certainly did not bring a crown of peacock [feathers]. These are the topics of history.

Even today in India, due to the praise of the feather of the peacock’s tail , the peacock is given so much regard that it is believed and declared as the national bird. The punishment which is given for killing a person, the same punishment will be given to the person who kills peacock. That is [just] a bird; the importance of birds (species) comes after that of the animals. The generation (species) of human beings receives importance first of all. Even then, see how much praise there is of the peacock feather. They will show a peacock feather in Krishna’s crown, over the forehead . So see, Krishna is not such [a personality] whom nobody would know . Then why will Krishna say, rarely someone will recognize me? God has indeed said in the Gita: Manushyanam sahastreshu kashchit yatati siddhaye ... [i.e.] it is still easy to acquire the [the knowledge of] ghosts and spirits, it is more difficult to acquire [the knowledge of] the deities [but] it is very difficult to acquire [the knowledge of] God. He is the narrator of the most secret knowledge.

You children should take out such points, what Baba has explained to us. When He is the highest on high Baba, he will certainly narrate the highest topics. He will not narrate topics with ordinary meanings. And for you the word ‘Baba’ itself is very sweet. Children listen very well here but when they go out Maya makes them forget it. So it will be said, they used to explain to us previously, they used to teach us, now they have become traitors. They started defaming the one whom they praised, whom they revealed in the form of God. Maya [in the form of a] crocodile completely swallowed the one who explained to us. Stories and folk lores have also been made in the scriptures.

The Father has certainly explained, you can become multimillion fold fortunate (padmapadam bhagyashali) for 21 births. Then why do you totally ruin yourself by forgetting the Father meaning by losing to Maya and coming into body consciousness? ‘Yours’ means the soul’s. The soul is true, the body is false. The true soul will always exist. The body is present today, tomorrow it won’t be present. The Father comes and stabilizes [us] in the soul conscious stage. So, you become true souls who go to the Golden Age. You become the children of Satayam Shivam Sundaram . Maya misleads you in such a way that she brings you in body consciousness. She makes [you] forget the soul consciousness itself. So the truth in your soul is totally ruined. So, it comes in the heart, doesn’t it? We will explain.
.... (to be continued.)
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VCD No.1394, C.No.1880,
at Sehore, Mu.20.12.68+21.12.68
Dt.24.11.10 Part-5


You do know that those who become traitors, became so a cycle ago too. They remained traitors in the path of Bhakti as well; they have defamed Bharat and the residents of Bharat so much by converting to other religions. They have defamed the deities so much! So, those, who have this knowledge, will narrate the topics of knowledge. If they don’t have this knowledge, they will explain and narrate only opposite topics. If somebody does any type of disregard, they bring misfortune to themselves. Just like someone stabs a dagger into his legs with his own hands. He will become lame. Neither will he be able to walk nor run in purusharth (spiritual efforts).

The Father indeed comes to make [us] ever happy. He makes [us] wise, intelligent and clever. Nobody can forget BapDada and leave the studies. If someone leaves the studies itself or keeps missing it, then their boat (bera) itself will drown. Only a boat made of wood is not called bera, only a ship [is not called bera either], this is the bera like body. The Father, the boatman of this bera has come. In this boat like body, the Father is the boatman. This [body] works like a ship. There is its praise in the scriptures as well, ‘Chandrakant Vendant Jahaj’. Numerous boats take the support of it and lie in it. The ship sinks; just like the ship sunk at the end of the Silver Age; so, people climbed on to the boats. Some climbed into the boats first and some climbed afterwards while they drowned and jumped. These are the boats of many religions; all of them take the support of the one Father at the time of the great destruction. Call it chaap (a bow), call it a bow, and call it a ship; it is praised in the scriptures.

It is also said among the Sikhs, ‘Nanak chaap jahaj’ . Now they have considered [Guru] Nanak to be Sadguru. There was even more downfall after his arrival. Arey! After the arrival of God, should the next generation of the human creation go towards true salvation or towards degradation? God is the giver of true salvation to everyone. So He comes, [and] says, “Now you should not let the bera sink”. We have to become completely soul conscious and take the inheritance from the Father. [We are] deceived by becoming body conscious. Or else, Maya gobbles up the good ones and they remain completely unaware of it. They do not understand at all what they have done. Maya takes the intellect completely into a loss. Otherwise we should not have enmity with the teacher in student life. The Father certainly narrates such good topics. He narrates good topics and uplifts the children.

Whatever [the Father] explains every day, He will explain the same topics cycle after cycle and these are indeed beneficial topics. The Father is also beneficial. Everything about the Father is beneficial. He also comes in the beneficial Confluence Age and brings benefit to each and every soul. He benefits the entire world. It is only because of doing this work that His name is ‘Kalyankari (beneficial) Shiva’. This name does not suit anyone else, because names are kept according to the work performed. There is certainly some or the other benefit in everything the unlimited Father does.

There is happiness within [you], “We will go and become like ‘these’ Lakshmi-Narayan. If we leave the studies, if we miss it, if we are irregular, if we are not punctual, some or the other harm will certainly happen. Then we will certainly not be able to become Lakshmi-Narayan. Then those who defame the Father will not find any thaur (place). It is about which thaur? Thaur means place, thaur means position, thaur means seat. The seat that the 8 deities get, the thaur which the 8 deities receive, they (those who defame the Father) will not be able to receive that position. Just like the waterwheel ascends it also descends in the same way. If someone does not study properly; he should be explained. Children should be merciful (raham dil). The Father also explains, “Arey, what various things you used to do. The One, whom you used to abuse, that very One has come and is teaching you. He is bringing benefit even to those who are hostile (apakari). So you should be very careful with such Father. The Father explains in a very easy [way].’

There is just one important thing, “You should not indulge in vices (vikaar)”. An action (karma) is called kar, vi means vipreet (opposite). You should not perform any action opposite to the actions which God teaches you to perform. If you perform any opposite action through any organ of action (karmendriya), it will go in the list of vices. Whether it is through the eyes, through the hands and legs, through the ears [or] through the mouth; if you perform opposite actions through any organ, it will go in the list of vices. It will become an opposite action (vikarma), a sinful action (paapkarm). Moreover, if you do any sinful action after becoming a Brahmin then 100 times burden will accumulate. In the 63 births, one time burden used to accumulate for one mistake. In this last extraordinary birth, 100 times burden is accumulated for the same mistake. So, you should make it firm, “We shouldn’t become body conscious in any circumstance”. Maya makes you commit some or the other sin by making you body conscious. Then it keeps increasing even more if you do not tell [about it to the Father].

The true Father has come. You have to be truthful with the true Father who establishes the age of truth (Satyug), who narrates the true things. If you do not remain truthful, the sins will keep increasing and your position will become low. You should remember the Father a lot, with great love. You keep saying “Baba, Baba”; the old women keep saying “Baba, Baba” through their mouth. Although they don’t remember the point, they certainly remember Him in a big (corporeal) form. You may lose your life, but the remembrance of Baba should not go away from the mouth. So, your final thoughts will lead you to the final destination. Then, even if you die, you will remember the Father. Om Shanti.
(Concluded.)
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VCD 1482, C.No. 1968 Anantpur
Mu.08.01.63 + 18.01.63 Dt. 30.05.11
Part-1


Om Shanti. There is a short Murli dated 08.01.63 that was narrated in Delhi. Children know that the Father is extraordinary, strange. Children will be confused: ‘ShivBaba comes in his Chariot (body); He is definitely Almighty, so how will He come in him? And what feeling will Baba have?’ Nothing at all! There is no question of feeling in it at all. The one in whom He comes feels nothing. For example, if someone’s husband dies, his soul is summoned in a Brahmin. The Brahmin doesn’t feel anything. Many summon [their] ancestors [in Brahmins] and the Brahmins eat [food]. They (those who summon) think that they (the ancestors) have come. So there is no question of feeling in it. He in fact sits in the form of the Teacher and teaches. We understand that it is His task to narrate new topics, to make pictures and so on. It is not the work of this Brahma because this Brahma Baba didn’t know anything. The Guru is always praised. The one from whom we learn is the Guru. So except for the One, no one else is glorified. The Father says, “I enter Him”. This one understands that this is the new knowledge, these are new topics; I certainly did not know anything. This is a wonderful knowledge.

Many will consider it to be impossible that God comes in a human being because Krishna is seated in everyone’s intellect. Well, Shiva is undoubtedly incorporeal. There are so many temples for Him. Shivjayanti (the birthday of Shiva) is also celebrated. So, certainly, He must have come in some body, mustn’t He? Otherwise, how did He give knowledge to so many gop-gopis (cow herds and herd girls)? You have to use your intellect in this. Definitely He has come in some Chariot and explained [the knowledge]. The Father Himself comes and speaks directly to the children. This one does not feel any discomfort when ShivBaba comes. He is not an animal, so that he will sit down if he is burdened with ten mann weight. No. In fact, the Father Himself says: I take this one’s support, and I am light, incorporeal. You children will also understand that Baba has come. [You] have this feeling, it becomes complete silence. This Sakar (corporeal) Baba has also practiced Yoga. Being in Yoga will also bring silence, won’t it? So, you will understand that ShivBaba has come. He is the Ocean of Peace. So, don’t we become the master ocean of peace? So, the Father says, “Remember Me, the Supreme Father Supreme Soul Shiva”; because Shiva the Supreme Father Supreme Soul is separate, and we souls are separate. This is a new thing. Those scholars, erudite men and teachers have said that God is omnipresent, but this does not make the topic agreeable. Earlier we also said that [God] is omnipresent. Now, Baba has explained, “I am not omnipresent. I came in this body of yours and explained to you 5000 years ago as well. Now again I tell you, “You have had such and such births. You were Suryavanshii. Then you became Chandravanshii. So, you also have 84 births.” Why was the word ‘also’ added? It means that this one has 84 births, and you also have 84 births.

Children are given the knowledge of the [Kalpa] tree, too. Drama or the Kalpa tree can’t be of billions of years. So, the Father corrects the wrong topics and explains when He comes. Only the Deity Religion is the ancient religion. That very [religion] is 5000 years old; the other religions have not come at the beginning. They have come in the middle or later on. The other countries have also come later on. Bharat (India) is the most ancient country and only the ancient Raja Yoga of Bharat is famous. And [if] it is the most ancient, it should certainly be in the Golden Age or before that, in the Confluence Age. But there is no mention of the Confluence Age in any scripture. The Father will definitely come only in the Confluence Age to purify the impure ones. So, this is the beneficial age. No other religious Father comes in the beneficial age, because no one is benefitted after their arrival. Human beings feel that these are new topics. Had they known the Father, they would have gone to Him.

It is also sung: kaun desh se aaye hain kaun desh jaanaa hai (From which country have you come, to which country you have to go?) So, certainly He has some country, hasn’t He? His country is the Incorporeal World. And there surely won’t be just a single person [living] in a country, will there? There will be many [people] who live there. It won’t be said that they will merge in Brahm either. It is also said that this and this person became a resident of heaven. Well, there is kingship in heaven. The kingdom of deities itself is called heaven. Then, some say: We are rays of light, or bubbles of the ocean. Well, what a comparison between the ocean and a bubble! There are many different opinions. It is not that someone is from some place and he will go somewhere else. So certainly, everyone comes from the same country. So first, you have to ask, who God of the Gita was. What did God of the Gita establish through the Gita? All the human beings are confused in this topic itself. It is because Sri Krishna is definitely not the Preceptor (Teacher).

Secondly, the Father says, “I come in this one and have the work of establishment and destruction done”. Nobody else can say this. In fact, they come and establish their religion and go away. They do not bring the destruction. Each religious Father comes to establish his religion; later on, gradually all the religious fathers have to come, their followers have to come. The souls start coming from the incorporeal world. For example, Christ comes and establishes the religion, so his followers have to come after him. The population (souls) of that religion keeps coming. For example, Guru Nanak came first, only then are there so many Sikhs; their population reached this extent. You certainly have to come to play your part. It isn’t that the soul merges in the Supreme Soul or that the soul is a bubble from the ocean which merges [again] in the ocean; then the question of its coming back doesn’t arise at all. Then how is the soul eternal? How is this drama eternal? This is definitely an eternal preordained drama. No lokik (worldly) Father or teacher has explained these topics. It is the Paarlokik Father who explains these topics. Worldly fathers are of this world itself. All of them keep coming in the cycle of birth and death. So, the ones who come in the cycle of birth and death forget about the topics of the previous births. The Father certainly doesn’t come in the cycle of birth and death so there is no question of forgetting at all. So, only the Paarlokik Father explains these topics. He says: I come in this one’s body, but this one’s soul cannot say this. I also say that I take the support of this ordinary body. The name of the ordinary body that I take on is Prajapita. It means he is the Father of all the subjects of the human world, and you are Prajapita mukhvanshaavali . So this is also proved that all those Brahmins are kukhvanshaavali , and you are mukhvanshaavali. Acchaa. Om Shanti.
... (to be continued.)
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VCD 1482, C.No. 1968 Anantpur
Mu.08.01.63 + 18.01.63 Dt. 30.05.11
Part-2


The next Vani is of the 18th January 1963. The record played is, kaun aaya mere man ke dwaare...., (who came at the door of my heart…). The children know who has come now; the one in front of whom they are sitting. The world does not know about these things. They do not have those eyes to know in front of whom they are sitting. Their eyes cannot know [this] at all. Now, your soul realizes through the intellect that precisely, the Father of us souls in the form of the mind and intellect has come. That Father Himself comes and gives His introduction. He says, “I do not have any subtle or corporeal body. In fact, I am forever incorporeal. Your soul comes in the cycle of birth and death as a result it becomes subtle as well as corporeal. But, it certainly has a form. Just like your form is very subtle, in the same way the form of Me, the soul is also subtle, it is the embodiment of light. Yes, I am the Ocean of Knowledge. There is also a story about ‘ruup, basant ’. So, I am certainly ruup as well. You too are ruup; but My form is divine and alokik. I am jyotirlingam (the form of light); the jyotirlingam which is worshipped in every country and village. In addition, I am jyotirlingam only when I take the support of this body. It is because, how will I see without taking the support of nature? The body of which I have taken the support is an effigy of nature’s five elements. I see the children through this one’s window like eyes, and explain through this one’s mouth.

I tell [you], Children, sanyaas (renunciation) is of two types. One is hathyog, which is called karmsanyaas (renunciation of actions). They forcibly suppress their indriyaan obstinately. Hathyogis like them cannot teach Raja Yoga. You have to explain to their followers, “The ones whose followers you consider yourselves to be, [you] call yourselves to be their followers; [you say:] I am the follower of this particular sanyasi (ascetic) but what you say is lie. The sanyasis go and wear kafani. Where have you abandoned your home and premises? Where have you worn kafni?” Earlier, this Brahma Baba was also a follower of many [gurus]. But this one also did not follow anyone. What a comparison between those sanyasis and us, the grihastiis (householders)! So, to call [yourselves] ‘followers is foolishness. It is because a follower has to follow completely, he will have to abandon house and premises, he will have to become a sanyasi. So, whoever become followers are liars because they don’t do sanyas at all. Sanyas itself means ‘sam’ means complete; ‘nyaas’ means tyaag (renunciation). And those people also don’t understand that if they are being called followers, they ought to become a sanyasi.

The Father explains: This is Raja Yoga. You don’t have to renounce house and premises in this. You just have to renounce the old world through the intellect, because an old thing gives sorrow, doesn’t it? A new thing is satopradhaan. You don’t have to renounce saatvik (pure, genuine) virtues. Just like, when the Father constructs a new house, the intellect becomes engaged in it [and] affection from the world is removed. As for the rest, you don’t have to renounce your household. If a woman also renounces [the house and premises], who will take care of the children? So, this isn’t the right thing [to do]. There are many tattvayogis , hatyogis , brahmyogis who have Yoga with the tattva (element). Is an element, inert or living? Will an element understand [the knowledge], or will a living [being] understand [it]? An inert thing (jaratva), will not understand [the knowledge]. This brahmtattva (the element brahm) is inert. [The word] Brahma has derived from brahm. I name the body in which I come, Brahma. This is also an inert element. And this element is a place where My soul and your soul resides. Tell them, “You are not Brahmakumar- kumaris. Actually, we are Brahmakumar-kumaris”. That Brahm is certainly the great element (mahattav). That Brahmtattva doesn’t have any kumari (daughter). Brahmakumari is actually the one who uplifts 21 lineages; who uplifts the parents’ family as well as the in-laws family. That is why, kumaris are held in high regard in Bharat.

As long as the kumari is pure, everyone worships her. Everyone has to worship her. When she becomes impure, she has to bow her head before everyone. So, look, the path of those hathyogis is the path of renunciation (nivrittimaarg). Hatyog; they hate the household. And we develop hatred for this old dirty world, this hell. So there is a lot of difference between in their sanyas and our sanyas. They don’t know about the new world at all. They just hate the house and premises. You, certainly know, this world itself is old, it is hell, so you hate it. Besides, you have hatred [for it] only when you have seen heaven through the third eye. Earlier, did even you hate this world? No. The Father says, “I teach you children Raja Yoga to take you to heaven. How will I teach hathyog?”

Bharat was on the path of pure household; and as the king and queen, so the subjects, everyone ruled in it. That is called heaven. Now, Bharat is impure. The same Bharat has to become pure again. Only the Supreme Father Supreme Soul can establish heaven. No one else can do it. Why? Why can’t anyone else do it? It is because, apart from the Supreme Father Supreme Soul, there is no soul who stays in the stage of the self forever. It is only the Supreme Soul who always stays in the stage of the self. That is why, He alone can establish heaven. He explains to us, “O residents of Bharat! You have drunk poison for complete half of a cycle, from the Copper Age; and by drinking [poison] continuously it (the world) became a terrible hell. They fight so much amongst themselves! There is quarrel in every house. There is quarrel in every village, every nation. They have brought the whole world within limitations (hadd). They have made limitations in the sky as well as water. Even the ocean has been brought under limitations. There are so many boundaries (hadden) in the country Bharat itself. Gujarat is separate, Bengal is separate. They have made so many divisions! It will be said that it is definitely the Iron Age now. In the Golden Age, Bharat won’t be in divisions. Only one kingdom will exist there. There is only one kingdom, one religion in the whole Bharat.

Now, you are the dwarf incarnation (vaaman avtaar ). So look, you don’t even get three feet of land now. Then, you will become the masters of the whole world. You will measure the whole world in three steps. The Father explains, “My dear, long lost and now found children, you alone have had 84 births”. It is also said, the cycle of 84. So, it is the No.1 shri Krishna whose 84 births are shown. You go through the complete cycle of 84 births. So, you are all rounder. The play of victory and defeat is about you. This Bharat itself was the king of kings, double crowned. Now [there is] no crown. This cycle keeps rotating. Only the Father explains this knowledge; others who narrate the Gita etc. don’t say that they teach Raja Yoga. They can never say it. The Father says, “I alone make this degraded world into pure a one through this Raja Yoga. No one else can make the whole world pure at all. So, remember Me alone. I have to come to liberate all those who are trapped in the cage of Maya. Either gain victory over these vices or donate them [to Me]. What? Why did He say it? Just two things were mentioned. Either donate these vices [to Me]... If you don’t donate them, what should you do? Gain victory over these vices. I alone teach you Raja Yoga. There is no one else other than Me who can teach you Raja Yoga. Then, in the Golden and Silver Ages, you enjoy fruit (praarabdh) for 21 births.
... (to be continued.)
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Re: Extracts of PBK Murlis - as narrated to the PBKs

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VCD 1482, C.No. 1968 Anantpur
Mu.08.01.63 + 18.01.63 Dt. 30.05.11
Part-3


Bharat is the birthplace of the Supreme Father Supreme Soul; the Supreme Father Supreme Soul who narrated the Gita. Yes. Just because they have ruined the Gita they don’t consider [Bharat] to be the birthplace of the Supreme Father. [People] celebrate Shivjayanti (the birthday of Shiva). There should be a very long holiday [on the occasion of His birthday]. But look, they don’t even celebrate holiday for Shivjayanti. This is about which year? The Vani is of 63. Earlier, they didn’t celebrate holiday. From when did they start celebrating holiday? They started [celebrating it] from the time the Father’s arrival was revealed with a practical proof. After the year 76, they also started having the holiday. The Christians have holiday for seven days. So, this one’s (the Father’s) holiday should last for a month. Whose? ShivBaba’s. There should be holiday for a month out of happiness. It is because this one is the one who makes the whole world pure. Now look, they have stopped giving holiday on His jayanti. This is about which time? Now, do they have a holiday on Shivjaynti or not? They definitely have it now. But this Murli is of which year? This Murli is of the year 63. Prior to the year 76, there was no holiday for Shivjayanti. Look, yesterday it was holiday on the occasion of [the birthday of] Vivekanand. Well, He [belongs to] the sanyas religion. It (the religion) doesn’t belong to Bharat. Wah! (Wow!). His path of detachment itself is different.

One is bhaktikaand (Bhakti cult), which is called Brahma’s night for half a cycle. Then, the other half will be called gyaankaand (cult of knowledge), it is Brahma’s day. As for the rest, all the scriptures are of the path of Bhakti (devotion). People have certainly been reading those scriptures. They say that scriptures are eternal but when were those eternal scriptures made? The Father says: These were made in the Copper Age. This Gita was also made in the Copper Age. As for the rest, Krishna didn’t come in the Copper Age. It is not that the Gita was made in the beginning of the Copper Age and Krishna came at the end of the Copper Age and brought about the Mahabharata war. It doesn’t make sense. Yes, it will be said that these scriptures come into existence from the Copper Age. Whichever religious Father comes, he explains through the mouth, later the scriptures are made. Similarly, the Supreme Father Supreme Soul first came in the Confluence Age, in the beginning of the Golden Age. Then, these scriptures and so on are made from the Copper Age onwards. And the very scripture of the Deity Religion is the Gita. Then later on the religious and so on scriptures of Islam, Buddhism come into existence. First of all, the Gita was made. And they are the human beings who have made this Gita. So, Krishna didn’t come in the Copper Age to narrate the knowledge. If Krishna came at the end of the Copper Age, and brought about the Mahabharata war, did he create the hellish Iron Age? Arey, heaven was established through the Gita.

Now, where are those double crowned ones in the Iron Age? Now, there isn’t the kingdom of deities at all. Now, it is the kingdom of demons. So look, human beings have so much ego of these scriptures. This one also had the ego that he has read so many scriptures; he had made so many gurus [his own]. Now, this one also says, “To hell with these gurus”. So, all these are your weapons of knowledge. They have shown sword, axe etc. in the scriptures. The Father says, “I have brought heaven on the palm after 5000 years”. Still, the heart of the children goes towards hell. The children don’t make preparations to go to heaven even now. The capital which existed 5000 years ago, the same capital is being established again now. This is the religio-political Godly (God’s) machinery. Nonviolence is political as well as through the power of Yoga. No one in the world can ever take the kingship of the world. Apart from the deities, no one else could take the kingship of the whole world. History stands witness to the fact that no one in the world could ever attain the kingship of the world through violence.

Now, you are Pandavas and Baba is your spiritual Supreme Pandaa (Guide). He says, “I have come to show you the path of liberation (mukti), liberation in life (jiivanmukti). So, remember liberation and liberation in life. As for this abode of jiivanbandh (bondage in life), continue to forget it. When the Father builds a new house, the heart is withdrawn from the old house, isn’t it? So now, we hate this world of hell. Those sanyasis hate the house and premises. There’s a difference of day and night between that sanyas and this sanyas. Baba has explained, “Even so, these sanyasis maintain Bharat”. The path of renunciation is to stop commotions. But yours is ‘Raja Yoga’. God of the Gita made Bharat into heaven. Then, the attainment of heaven continues for half the cycle. This inheritance of heaven is your unlimited inheritance. The Father says, “O My long lost and now found children! Now follow Shrimat then you will become elevated.” The most elevated are these Lakshmi Narayan, whose story is narrated in the whole Bharat. Now your boat reaches ashore. The one who makes your boat reach ashore is called a boatman (khivaiyya) or gardener (baagwaan).

Human beings have used the dagger of lust for half a cycle. They have kept suffering sorrow in the beginning, middle and the end. But there isn’t sorrow in the beginning, the middle and the end in the Golden Age. So, that Golden Age is your immortal world. This is the world of death. Here, you drank poison for half a cycle. So you have formed such habit that you can’t stay without poison. The Father says: If you become pure in this one birth, you will become pure, ever healthy and ever wealthy for 21 births. Bharat has become solvent and insolvent many times. All the remaining [countries] are by plot (secondary roots). This swadarshan cakra rotates completely in Bharat alone. This Trimurti also belongs to Bharat alone. Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar; these three pictures are prepared. Then, they have given the name Trimurti Brahma in the scriptures. Now, let someone explain this. It is certainly not Trimurti Brahma. Vishnu and Shankar, both of them are clean shaved. As for Brahma, why is he alone shown with a beard? All the three are shown together, so the three of them should be shown clean shaved. Why aren’t they shown [so]? The three deities are shown together, so the three of them should be shown clean shaved. If they don’t show them like that, it means, Brahma didn’t become complete and Vishnu and Shankar became complete.

Brahma emerged from the navel of Vishnu. Then scriptures are shown in the hands of Brahma. Well scriptures exist here. How did the scriptures come in the Subtle Region? The Father says, “I make you trikaaldarshi by narrating the essence of all the Vedas and scriptures from the mouth of Brahma. All the Vedas and scriptures have essence, so I explain the essence. Those gurus have narrated all extensive topics to you. The essence becomes hidden in expansion. Now, I give you the third eye. No one else knows about the Father and the beginning, middle and the end of His creation. They are not trikaaldarshi, at all. It is I who make you also trikaaldarshi when I come. What do I make [you]? Trikaaldarshi means the one who knows about the past births, the present birth as well as births of the future as well. I come and make you the one who knows about the past, the present and the future. It is said ‘Trimurti Shiva’ but which murti (personality) amongst the three murtis is trikaaldarshi? Should we say it is the murti of Brahma? Did Brahma make [anyone] trikaaldarshi? Did anyone understand the secret of the cycle of 84 births? Firstly one should understand the secret of his own births. Then, he should reveal the secret of others’ births. So, I give the third eye to you. Neither this Brahma nor does this Vishnu have the third eye. Who has it? Who is referred to, as ‘you’? There are three children: Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar; these are the first-born three children. So, among them, who is referred to as ‘you’? Certainly it is said for Shankar: I give the third eye to you through which you see your births of the past, the present and the future. So it is said for Me alone that I come and make you trikaaldarshi. He came in the body of Brahma but He certainly didn’t come in the form of the Father. He came in the form of the mother, and was named Brahma. He doesn’t make [anyone] trikaaldarshi. He came and went away. Did anyone become trikaaldarshi? So, I come and make you trikaaldarshi. Only if you become Brahma mukhvanshavali , Brahmins from Shudra , you will be able to become deities from Brahmins. A pure one is called Brahmin; the one whose mind, speech and karmendriya are pure.
... (to be continued.)
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Re: Extracts of PBK Murlis - as narrated to the PBKs

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VCD 1482, C.No. 1968 Anantpur
Mu.08.01.63 + 18.01.63 Dt. 30.05.11
Part-4


So the Father sits and teaches you such Raja Yoga. He teaches Raja Yoga and Karmayoga . He does not teach Karmasanyaas . Third page of the Vani dated 18.01.63. If He teaches Karmasanyaas, who will take care of the creation that you have created in this world of hell? If the creator creates the creation and does not sustain it, then that is a great sin. So you have to take care of your creation as well. You are limited creator, and I am the unlimited Creator. You give birth to 2, 4, 8, 10, 20, 50 children and sustain them. And what about Me? I am the one who sustains all the five-seven billion (500-700 crore) souls in this world. You create and sustain the limited [creation] and I create and sustain the unlimited [creation]. This Brahma is also in the unlimited. Who? Which Brahma? Is Brahma the name of just one or many? In reality, many have the name Brahma. Then, who is the unlimited Brahma? Can we call Dada Lekhraj the unlimited Brahma? The unlimited Brahma means, all the 500-700 crore human souls should acknowledge him as the Father Brahma. So, who is that Brahma? Prajapita Brahma. That Brahma is called Adidev, Adam, Aadam, isn’t he? The first Father of the world is believed in all the religions. Hindus believe [him] in the form of Adidev, the Jains also call him Adinaath. The English people call him Adam, the Muslims also call him Adam. So, he is the unlimited Father.

The Father brings the gift of paradise for the children, that too for 21 births. He is such most beloved Father. He says, “You are My most beloved children. Not ‘more beloved’, [but] ‘most beloved’ children. You are very close.” So tell [Me], who are the ‘more beloved’ children? You are the ‘most’ [beloved]. Then who should be called ‘more’ [beloved]? What will the Chandravanshis be called? [They will be called] more beloved. Are they close to the Father or a little distant? You are very close. First of all, you come and become the necklace of Rudra. What? First of all, you come and become the necklace of Rudra. Then, there is the necklace of Vishnu. So who is in the first number? Rudramala (rosary of Rudra). And [who is in the] second number? The rosary of Vishnu. Why is it in the second number? It is because all those who take the title of Brahma, what do they become from Brahma? All of them become Vishnu, farishtaa from Brahma at different levels (numbarvaar). So they are placed second.

All of them [sit on] the throne and rule. Those who win the world by gaining victory over Maya are numbarwaar. ShivBaba is on top in the rosary, then there are the beads [in the form of] couples, then there are the children, the 108 [beads]. Who is ShivBaba? Who are the couples? And who are the 108 beads? All this shown in the Vijaymala . ShivBaba is on top. Then there is meru, couple; the beads in a couple. So, who are meru, the beads in a couple? Who is ShivBaba? Who should be called [ShivBaba]? When we say ShivBaba, is He just a point or is He with the corporeal one? Certainly, He is with the corporeal one. The corporeal one, who also attains the incorporeal stage. He is above all. Then, who are the beads [in the form of] couples? How many arms are shown to Vishnu? Four arms are shown to him. So how many pairs are there in the four arms? There are two pairs. Brahma’s soul enters Jagadamba, so this is a pair of beads. And whom does the soul of the junior mother enter? Whom does Om Radhe Mama enter? She enters Lakshmi. It is the second pair. Both pairs combine to form the body of Vishnu.

Then, there are two pairs. After them, there are the 108 children. These beads of the rosary especially made Bharat and generally the world heaven. Is the topic of these beads of the mala about the Vijaymala or just the Rudramala? It is about both the mala. Those who sat on the throne are included in the rosary. Everyone worships them. But those who worship know nothing about its meaning, why are they worshiped. What is the basis of worship? There’s only one Gita which is the crown gem of all the scriptures. The Father says: I am the Creator of Brahmin religion through the lotus [like] mouth of Brahma. What was said? Through whose lotus [like] mouth, am I the creator of the Brahmin religion? Through the lotus [like] mouth of Brahma, I am the creator of the Brahmin religion. The Christian religion [came] through Christ’s mouth and the Brahmin religion came through Brahma’s mouth. By teaching those Brahmins, I then establish the Deity Religion, then I establish the kshatriya religion. So, first they are Brahmins, then from Brahmins to deities, and those who fail belong to the Kshatriya religion. Three religions are established. Then other religions are established. So, the Gita is required first of all. The Gita is created first of all. Then along with it, there are Bhagwad, Ramayana, Guruvashisht etc. Those who create know nothing at all now. Nothing happened by reading the Gita.

The Father says: The knowledge that I give becomes nearly extinct. This is just like the banyan tree. There is the banyan tree, isn’t there? You will see that its foundation has decayed; just a small trace is left. All the other religions do exist, but the foundation has decayed. I again come and establish that same Deity kingdom by putting the sampling of the foundation. I have all the other religions destroyed. And I have the destruction done through the great Mahabharata war. Without this great Mahabharata war, the world can’t be destroyed. All these religions existed 5000 years ago. Now again it (drama) is repeating. Those who have seen destruction will definitely also see the establishment through these eyes. Then, those who had visions of heaven will also definitely see it in practice. Destruction as well as establishment is shown to you children. You have been shown the childhood acts as well. You say that you will become such empress that baby will be on your lap. The path of those sanyasis is the path of renunciation. The path of knowledge is the path of Bharat. Then, Baba mentions the name of the path of Bhakti only once. Baba gives [these] names only once. Then, there is no need of knowledge at all. The very knowledge is of Raja Yoga. True liberation is attained through knowledge then, there is no need of knowledge at all. So, there is no karmakaand etc. in the Golden and Silver Ages. Then there is the Bhakti kaand. That Bhakti kaand is brought down now and the Golden Age will live long. Acchaa! Good morning to the long lost and now found children from BapDada and sweet mother.
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Audio Cassette No.19, Kampil
Mu. 25.12.91
Part-1

(Side A)


Om Shanti. This is the morning class of the 25.12.91. The record played is: Om namah Shivay. The sweet, long lost and now found children heard the song of praise. Who is praised? The highest on high God, who is called the Purifier of the impure ones, the One who takes away sorrow and the Giver of happiness. The One who gives happiness is remembered, the giver of sorrow is not remembered. The children know: the Giver of happiness is the one Supreme Father Supreme Soul alone. All the human beings remember Him alone. The people of other religions also say that the Father comes, liberates [the humans beings] from sorrow and gives [them] happiness. Nevertheless, they do not know... [they know] the Father gives happiness, ... then who gives sorrow and when does he give it? Who do not know it? Those belonging to the other religions do not know who gives sorrow and when he gives it. You also understand that the new world certainly has to become old. Then it is called the Abode of Sorrow. After the Iron Age ends the Golden Age will certainly come. There is only one world (srishti) for sure. The human beings don’t know this world cycle at all. That is why Baba asks: Who is the one who makes you so stupid? The Father certainly does not give sorrow to anyone. In fact, the Father always gives happiness. You know that the birth place of the Giver of happiness is also Bharat. Whose? The place of birth. Whose birth place is Bharat? The birth place of the Giver of happiness is Bharat. Where in Bharat? What is called the birth... of the Giver of happiness? The Giver of happiness is certainly the Supreme Father Supreme Soul alone. In fact, He is the Point of light, incorporeal. Then how will there be a birth place? He enters in the saakaar (the corporeal one). So, He has entered a long time before. So which one should we call the birth place? Sindh Hyderabad or Calcutta? What does His birth mean? In fact, His divine birth is praised, His subtle (alokik) birth is praised. Birth means revelation. For example, when the birth of a child takes place in the limited, the child is revealed when it comes out. He was hidden in the womb previously. Similarly, the Supreme Soul also does come in this world, but He is not revealed [at first]. He remains hidden. And when He is revealed, it is said to be [His] birth. So it is about the divine birth in the form of a revelation. The revelation will take place [in front of] whom first? When a child is born in the house, who comes to know first of all? The parents, the family members [know first]. [Then] the neighbours, the villagers [come to know], later the outsiders [come to know]. Well, then it is in the unlimited here. It is not a physical topic in the limited. So, you know that the birth place of the Giver of happiness is also Bharat. And the birth place of the giver of sorrow is also Bharat. Both are born in Bharat itself. Who is the one who gives sorrow? Ravan.

And in contrast to him, who is the giver of happiness? Ram. Therefore, Ram who gives happiness as well as Ravan who gives sorrow are born in Bharat. Both are in Bharat itself. Is Bharat only a place or is [Bharat] also a person?
(Students must have said something.) Is [Bharat] only a person? Isn’t it a place? It is a place as well as [the living] Bharat because a person will certainly reside at some place. Some place is certainly required for the one who is vyakta (visible), for the one who is corporeal. So, the place is Bharat and Bharat is also a personality. This [name] is applicable to both. Both Ram and Ravan are born in Bharat. If we consider the personality, it proves precisely that the one who becomes Ram, he himself…? Hum? What does he become at the end of the Iron Age? He becomes Ravan. The one who is Krishna in the beginning of the Golden Age, what does he himself become in the end of the Iron Age? He becomes Kansa (a villainous character in the epic Mahabharat). So, what Baba says is absolutely right. It is said in the Murlis. It is not that this topic hasn’t been said [in the Murli]. The one who becomes Ram, he himself becomes Ravan and the one who becomes Krishna in the beginning, he himself becomes Kansa in the end. What is this? How is this possible? When the Supreme Soul Shiva enters [them], they cannot be called Kansa or Ravan, but when He hasn’t entered [them and] those souls became tamopradhaan , what will be said [for them]? The one who is the highest on high himself becomes the lowest of low. The highest on high religious fathers are the lowest of the low and tamopradhaan at this time. So it has been said: Don’t combine Shiva and Shankar and make them one. On the path of Bhakti (devotion), they have shown the picture of Shankar just like that of Ravan. They also make scary pictures. If it is so, why does the Supreme Soul choose them? Hum? Why does He choose such ones who become the lowest of the low? (A student must have said something.) Yes. The Supreme Soul comes and makes the lowest ones themselves into the highest ones. But what is the quality that they have? What specialty do they have that they become the highest on high despite becoming the lowest of the low? If it is so, it is very good to become low. Now continue to become low! We should make purushaarth (spiritual effort) to become low, impure and tamopradhaan! Because the more we fall, the higher we will rise. So, what is the speciality in Bharat alone [so] that God comes only into Bharat [and] He doesn’t come in any other country or in any other person? There will definitely be some speciality. (Students: Bharat is imperishable.) Imperishable… Truth is called imperishable. What is a lie? It is perishable; and truth? It is imperishable. It is said: God is truth. So, what is dear to the true Father? Truth. The Lord is pleased with a true heart (sacche dil par sahab raazi). It doesn’t matter how impure, tamopradhaan and a great sinner like Ajamil someone is, but if he is truthful to the Supreme Soul, that true one finds a place in the heart of the Supreme Soul. The Supreme Soul chooses only that one. For this reason it has been said in the Murli: There is one among billions who gives his complete potamail. Among billions of [souls] who make purushaarth, there is just one who gives his complete potamail. Otherwise, because of coming under the influence of body consciousness to some extent or due to not recognising the Supreme Soul Father, they don’t give the complete potamail. They certainly hide something, even if it is in percentage.

So, the birth place of the Giver of happiness is Bharat and the birth place of the giver of sorrow is also Bharat. For this reason it has been said: Ram and Sita will be called the king and the queen of khaadi. When? What will Lakshmi and Narayan be called? The king and the queen of velvet, and Ram and Sita? [They will be called] the king and the queen of khaadi, but when? They are the king and queen of khaadi in the end of the Iron Age. And [what about] the same souls in the beginning of the Golden Age? Hum? They become the Maharaja and Maharani of velvet in the Golden Age.

What is the speciality of the khaadi? The khaadi becomes heavy in the Confluence Age, the rainy season. It clings to the body. It clings to body consciousness. It doesn’t detach and it gets dirty quickly. But it also has the speciality that it also becomes clean quickly. And in the cold season in the form of the Golden and Silver Ages it is very warm. And in the summer season [in the form] of the Copper and Iron Ages, it gives a lot of coolness as well. But in which age (yuga) does it give sorrow? Only in the Confluence Age, the rainy season, because the Iron Age is also present at that time. As long as there is the Iron Age period of the Confluence Age, the world feels those souls to be givers of sorrow (dukhdaayi). Not in the point of view of the Supreme Soul, because they are the souls who play the role of Dharamraj, they are the souls who play the role of Mahaakaal and Mahaakaali. So, the knowledgeable souls should not experience this. As for the rest, those who are ignorant or those who keep swinging in the swing of doubt and faith again and again, they will certainly feel that those [souls] are givers of sorrow. They will feel that they are Ravan. Ravan is not the name of any particular person. Raavayte lokaan – the one who makes people cry himself is called Ravan. Now, to see the reason for it is a matter [to consider] later. For what reason did he make them cry, did he make them cry with a good reason or with a bad reason? He made them cry, he did the task of making them cry, so he is Ravan. So, the birth place of the one who gives sorrow is the same as that of the one who gives happiness. But they don’t understand anything. If they understand this, they won’t combine Shiva with Shankar and make them one.

What? On the path of devotion they combined Shiva with Shankar and made them one. They combined Aadam with Khuda (God) and made them one. But there is a saying: Don’t call Aadam God, Aadam is not God. They also say: And Aadam is not separate from the radiance (nuur) of God. But when? When Khuda enters him, he is not separate then. However, He doesn’t ride the bull all the time. When He rides, He is not separate and when He doesn’t ride, He is separate. Therefore, will there be a difference in the nature and sanskaars or not? When the Father Shiva enters, there will certainly be a difference in the nature and sanskaars. And when He doesn’t enter, there will certainly be a difference then too. Acchaa. So now, in whose contact should we come? With whom should we have a relationship? We don’t come to know about ShivBaba at all, when He enters and when He leaves. We certainly don’t come to know about His birth at all. We neither come to know about His arrival nor His departure. [But] yes, we come to know about it through the knowledge [He gives]. But Baba has given this direction: “You children, just consider that ShivBaba is always sitting in him; I am responsible for every activity of his, whether he does anything wrong or right. Even if he does something wrong, I will make it right.” So, it is very difficult to assimilate this. But the Father, who makes the difficult into easy, says: those who love Me, nothing, no task is difficult with love. Love is something which melts even a stone. Therefore changing Ravan is not a big thing.
... (to be continued.)
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Audio Cassette No.19, Kampil
Mu. 25.12.91
Part-2


After all, whom have we recognized? Have we recognized Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar or have we recognized the Father Shiva, the Point of light, God the Father? Whom have we recognized? Have we recognized those who change or have we recognized the One, who is always unchangeable, who is always benevolent (Sada Shiv)? With whom have we established a connection? With which soul? Have we established a connection with Shiva or those who become dead bodies (shav) in the end of the Iron Age - dead body means a corpse (murda) - who become kabradaakhil (buried in the grave); have we recognized them? Arey, the souls of the corporeal world who play the roles of Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar, we recognized them very well throughout the 63 births. What is great if we recognized them? Whom have we recognized now? Now we have recognized the satopradhaan Supreme Soul who has come in the tamopradhaan one. We have to recognized the Supreme Father who is never going to change. His soul never goes through high and low [stages]. He has been given the name ‘achyutam’ [meaning] the One who never falls from the high stage. He never plays a role in the low stage. So, this is something to understand, that the birth place of the One who gives happiness and the birth place of the one who gives sorrow is in Bharat itself. The time also is the same. It is because we recognize [both] Ram and Ravan in the Confluence Age itself; their revelation takes place [then]. Before this we didn’t know Ravan at all. We thought he might be a person with ten heads. A ten headed person doesn’t exist at all.

So, that is the birthday of the highest on high God who comes in Bharat. His name is Shiva. Shiva means benevolent (kalyaankaari) and when there is benefit, the question of crying and making others cry cannot arise. The souls who cry for any reason or make others cry, despite following the knowledge, this is not a benevolent task. For this reason Baba says: I don’t like those who cry. It is because ShivBaba’s name is Shiva, therefore the actions are also Shiva [i.e.] benevolent. He is not harmful in any case. Though we may consider Him to be harmful due to ignorance, later on we will understand on the basis of the result, that the Supreme Soul is benevolent in every way. No one knows how that Father comes and gives happiness. They don’t know about the method, what the method of the Supreme Soul to give happiness is. Look at the methods of those who give sorrow! Who is the one who brings sorrow? Ravan. From when does Ravan come? From the Copper Age. Ravan comes from the Copper Age (dvapar yug). So, it was given the name “dvapur”, which means “two cities”. Not one city, but two cities. Just like [when] two houses are made. A Father has two sons and both separate, right in front of the Father, so, was the name of the Father defamed or was it glorified? Was the unity broken or was it maintained? Will it be said that the blood is one? Certainly there is some mixture somewhere, so the nature and sanskaars started to clash. There is not a single house any more. Now, when there isn’t one house, when two houses came in existence, there will certainly be a clash. It is because walls were built between them and where the walls are built, the hearts break. So, they don’t even know how the Father comes and gives happiness. How Ravan gives sorrow, they don’t know this either. Now, you have the knowledge, how the Father comes and gives happiness. And later on this knowledge will become almost extinct.

Only the One who gives happiness is praised. No one knows about the one who gives sorrow. When they don’t come to know at all, there is no question of praising or defaming at all. They burn Ravan every year. Why? Why do they burn him every year? When he is burnt once, he should be finished. Then, what is the need to burn him every year?
(A student said something.) He doesn’t die at all? Why? When he was burnt, he turned to ashes. Then why will he be burned every year? Arey, if something is burnt once, if it is made into ashes, it is finished or is there the need to burn it again and again? It is about the Confluence Age.

In the Confluence Age, the body consciousness of 63 births filled [in the soul] isn’t finished at once. The seed form souls, those who become seeds, are very complicated. The roots have a husk as well as the seeds have a husk. When the seeds improve, the entire world improves. So, in this stage-like world or on this tree-like world, some are leaves. There are a lot of them. The transformation of leaves can take place quickly, but the transformation of the seeds doesn’t take place quickly. It is because when the seed improves, the entire tree improves.

So, in the Confluence Age Brahmin world there are the seed form souls who take complete 84 births as well as there are root souls who have lesser births number wise (they all have a different number of births). And there are also lots of leaves, five billion [of them]. The religious fathers coming from above spread dualism, they introduce two paths. In the beginning there was only one path in the world, there was only one Ancient Deity Religion. There was no other religion. There was no other king. When these religious fathers come later on, two ways of thinking come into existence by their arrival. The diversity of opinions continue to increase; so they clash with each other and sorrow begins due to the clash. So when the Father comes, He performs this very task of uniting [them] first. And there cannot be unity without purity. Until the drishti (vision), the vibrations, the acts, the mind, the words and the actions, time, contacts, relationships, the body, mind and wealth are completely surrendered to the One, the purity of unity cannot come. There cannot be unity without purity. The unity breaks when duality is created; the gathering breaks in the world and clash with each other starts. So, the Father comes and explains this very method, He teaches: Now create unity. Adopt purity in your life. One Father and no one else.

If the body, mind, wealth, time, contacts, relationships and everything is 100% surrendered to the One Father, that soul will become happy from that very time. It cannot experience sorrow even to the slightest extent. This is a guarantee. But Baba keeps asking questions in the Murlis: We are the children of God the Father, then why are we sorrowful? Why are we sitting in hell? If there is a child of a multimillionaire, of a millionaire and he is needy for a single penny! How is this possible? Certainly his relation, his connection with his Father is broken. He has a connection with others, who are the ones to take him down, who make him needy for every penny. In the same way, until we souls have formed a full connection with the Supreme Soul Father through the body, through the mind, through the wealth… It is not that if the connection is established with the body, it is not established with the mind. Or if someone says: our mind and intellect is definitely with the Supreme Soul, though we are far away from the body. No. Wherever our body is, our mind will definitely go there, the wealth will certainly go [there]. It is not that we continue to invest the body and the wealth somewhere and the mind remains engaged somewhere else. No. And whenever and wherever the mind reaches, the body also will reach there. Both are directly related. It is because the power of the mind is a very intense power. If the mind becomes focussed at one place, if it moves forward towards the Supreme Soul, if it turns there, there is no power in the world which can stop the body and its wealth [from going there].

So, where does happiness come from? And when does sorrow arise? Sorrow arises from duality and happiness arises from non-duality. There is happiness in one and there is sorrow in many. Among five billion human souls, there will also be such souls of different capacities [according to their purushaarth] who would be forming the relationship with only one in their 84 births. Which relationship? Among all the relationships, which is the special relationship that doesn’t leave man until his last breath? Ever since the beginning of the Golden Age till the end of the Iron Age, that relationship keeps attracting. Which is that relationship?
(Students said something.) Of the Father? Had the relationship of the Father been the main one, everyone should be born as a male. Whom will Lakshmi remember when she leaves the body? (Student: Narayan.) She will remember only Narayan. So, she is born as a male. And when Narayan leaves the body, in whose remembrance does he leave the body? In the remembrance of Lakshmi; then he will be born as what? He will get a female body. If all the men and women had been leaving the body only in the remembrance of the Father, they should be born as what? They should be born as men.

But this world is created by two, by the union of a female and a male. Now, whether that union is elevated, whether it is through the elevated organs or through the corrupt organs, of the low world [it is a different matter], but the world functions only through the union, only through the connection. So, it is a game of just the two. Whose? Which two? A woman and a man. Though there won’t be this consciousness of being a woman or a man in the Golden Age and the Silver Age, there is the relationship of a woman and a man, isn’t there? There won’t be body consciousness. Still, the child will be born with the love of the mouth, won’t it? It will be born with the connection of the elevated organs, won’t it? So, aren’t the elevated organs [like] the eyes and the mouth, parts of the body? They are indeed parts [of the body], but they are elevated organs. There is no question of being dirtied by urine in this; and the elevated nature [of the beings] (shreshthataa) is more stable. So, the happiness of the deities is stable and the happiness of the humans from the Copper Age is transitory, because it is the happiness of a low stage.

The more there is truthfulness, the more stable it will be. And the more there is falsehood, [the more] there is lowliness, stability cannot remain to that extent. He will certainly fall. So, the Father explains that every soul has a different role. Some are filled more with the desire of non-duality and some are filled more with the desire of duality. So, the souls [that are] filled more with the desire of duality, those who have the sanskaars of 63 births, of many births of practicing adultery and living with many, those souls will certainly take and give sorrow, it doesn’t matter how much the Supreme Soul narrates knowledge, still they will not be influenced quickly. For this reason, the Father has to come in Bharat. Bharat alone is such a land, where purity is given special importance from the beginning till the end. Even now in Bharat, special care is taken of the purity of the virgins and mothers. This is not the case in the countries abroad and in the other religions. The tradition of divorce is fixed in those religions. It is not considered good in Bharat. (End of Side A)
... (to be continued.)
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Audio Cassette No.19, Kampil
Mu. 25.12.91
Part-3


(Side B)

[This is] the morning class of 25.12.91, the middle of the first page. So, the question arises: “How did we become impure?” (A student said something.) Yes. The souls of other religions who came, who create, spread, practice other kinds of practices (dhaarnaayein), we became impure by coming in the colour of the company of those souls. So, now we should make it the other way round. Then, what should we do? Allah Avval Din who establishes the number one religion, we should follow the religion (dharm) of that Allah Avval Din. We should remain in Now the Father explains, all these scriptures and so on belong to the path of Bhakti. There aren’t any scriptures in the path of knowledge, [scriptures] in which there are many types of the karm kaand (ceremonial acts and sacrificial rites and rituals). Karm kaand: do this, do that, do that. The scriptures don’t teach true karma Yoga. One Father alone is the Giver of knowledge. Only the Ocean of Knowledge comes and narrates the true knowledge. All the others narrate false knowledge.

It is day for half a cycle. There is no question of Bhakti then. Which is the day for half a cycle? It is not that there is happiness for half a cycle in the Golden and the Silver Ages, and there is sorrow for half a cycle in the Copper and the Iron Ages, therefore it became the night. No one has the true knowledge of happiness and sorrow, of night and day at all there. Which place does it concern? It concerns the Confluence Age when the Sun of Knowledge is revealed in a saakaar (physical) body. So, it is like the day. And when He becomes hidden; when the sun sets, it becomes the dark night of ignorance. Where is the memorial of the sunset? Where is the memorial of the sunset? Where is the memorial of the sunrise? The sunset point is shown in Mount Abu. And which is the other city, the place where the Sun of Knowledge rises?
(Student: Kampil.) Kampil? Has it risen here? [Just] visit the neighbourhood and see! Well, there can be darkness below the lamp, but under the sun? Can there be darkness where there is the sun? No. Had there been sunrise in Mount Abu… none of the residents of Mount Abu have been able to understand till today. Has anyone become a Brahma Kumar… especially a resident of Mount Abu? Until now no one has been able to become a Brahma Kumar because there is darkness below the lamp. So, it cannot be said that the Sun of Knowledge has risen. So, there is a certain city which is given the very name… What? When the Sun of Knowledge appeared, the darkness of ignorance was destroyed (gyaan Surya pragataa to agyaan andher vinaash). That city certainly should be at the place of kings. It is because only the royal son souls, who become kings, will reveal the Supreme Soul Father. Now, our place is not any physical place either. What? Our sun is not physical and the moon is not physical either. Our cities are not physical either. Delhi is living as well as Bombay is living and Calcutta is living too. London is living and New York is living as well. So, the unlimited Rajasthan... even in that [unlimited Rajasthan], Nepal , [the place] which especially sustains the new world… there is also one such city there, in the gathering of those who sustain the new world, from where the Supreme Soul Father is revealed in a special form. So there is only the one Giver of knowledge. He narrates the true knowledge.

the company of only that One through the mind as well as the body, because the bondage of actions is certainly formed by taking and giving too. So, we can obtain the reward of happiness for 21 births. It is indeed guaranteed for 21 births; then it depends on what extent and what kind of purushaarth (spiritual effort) someone makes. If he is a good purushaarthi who follows the path of “One Father and no one else”, it is possible that he will remain happy and peaceful even for 82, 83 births out of the 84 births. There will certainly be sorrow in the last birth for sure, because unless there is sorrow, happiness cannot have value. If there is no night, the day will not have any value.

So, how do we become impure? We become pure through the company of the One and we become impure through the company of many. They do call, but they don’t know the meaning [of their call]. What do they [say when they] call? ‘O Purifier of the impure ones! Come. Make us pure from impure!’ No one says: Come and narrate knowledge! What do they say in the path of Bhakti (devotion)? ‘[O] Purifier of the impure ones! Come.’ They don’t tell Him to narrate knowledge. What do they say? Bring true liberation to us, the impure, the ones who attain degradation. Give us liberation and true liberation, give us happiness and peace.

At this time, there is indeed the path of Bhakti in Bharat. All the scriptures belong to the path of Bhakti too. There is no knowledge of true liberation in the scriptures. Why? Is there the knowledge of degradation? If there was the knowledge of true liberation in the scriptures, we would have attained true liberation in the 63 births. But what continued to happen? We continued to read the scriptures and underwent degradation. Then, how will true liberation take place? True liberation is not brought about by the scriptures. The highest scripture among all the scriptures… which one?
(A student said something.) The Shrimad Bhagavat Gita. Only the scripture Gita is considered to be sung by God, but it doesn’t concern the scripture of papers (kaagaz kaa shaastra). ‘Shaas’ means to rule (shaasan karnaa). ‘Shaastra’ means the law to rule. And there can’t be anyone apart from the one Supreme Father Supreme Soul, who creates, who speaks about the constitution, the law to rule in the best way. That Supreme Soul Father Himself comes and gives the emperorship of the world. To whom? To the one who fully understands that constitution, to the one who knows it. Then after him [He gives it to others] number wise (at different levels) according to their purushaarth.

So, no one has the knowledge of true liberation. It is neither in the scriptures nor in the writers of scriptures. Because the knowledge that the Father narrates through the mouth after coming, that knowledge heard directly from the mouth itself is the Gita. But that which is filled in a tape record (cassette) later on or that written on paper or that narrated by someone else’s mouth is not knowledge. It is certainly ignorance. What is this? Fill a pot with milk and add a drop of poison in it. What will it become? All of it will become poison. So, what the Supreme Soul narrates after taking the support of the mouth of the permanent body (Chariot), it is indeed 100% nectar. But the other human soul… because no one is 100% true in this world at all. Certainly something will be mixed [by them]. So, if some other person mixes even a little [bit of personal opinion] while narrating the knowledge of the Supreme Soul, what will it become? What will be its result in the end? It will become poison. So, One Father and no one else.

Baba has explained to the children in the Murlis so many times: Children, true liberation is brought about by the One incorporeal Sadguru and degradation is brought about by many bodily human gurus. So, when there is degradation by many human bodily gurus, shouldn’t we have complete reverence, belief and faith in any soul in order to listen to knowledge, in order to assimilate it? It is not possible that the Supreme Soul Father Himself will keep whispering knowledge all the time in our ears. It does not happen like this even in the case of the body in which He enters, then, how can it happen in the case of others? Then, what should be done? So, this is about the remembrance. Baba says: the extent to which you children remember Me, [the more] you remain in remembrance, I am with you to that extent. Have chitchat with the Father. Remain busy in karma Yoga while walking or moving around, while standing or sitting. Become karma yogis. To chitchat with the Supreme Soul Father is also connection (Yoga). It is not separation (viyog). But if you have a loving intellect, you will also be able to have chitchat, whereas, if you have an opposing intellect, you won’t be able to have a loving chitchat. Then [thoughts of] defamation and struggle will go on within; fight will go on [within], just like Ravan had a fight with Ram. Therefore, instead of gaining rewards, there will be even more loss.

The Supreme Father Supreme Soul alone is the Ocean of Knowledge. Certainly He Himself has to give the knowledge. No one else can give the knowledge at all. Knowledge means recognition, ‘gyaan’ [means] to know, information. The true information itself is knowledge, and false information? It is ignorance. Then, the knowledge which the scientists have, is it ignorance? What knowledge do the scientists of today have? Do they have false knowledge? It will not be called false knowledge. Why? Will their knowledge be called false or true? It will be called false [knowledge] for the reason that they have indeed analysed the five elements of nature, they have indeed obtained information, but no one else except for the Husband of Nature (Prakritipati) can have the complete information about it. It doesn’t matter how much science advances, no one can have the complete information. The Father, the Husband of Nature Himself is the one who analyses the five elements completely, who knows it. No one apart from Him can speak about the five elements of nature, Ravan and Ram separately. So, He Himself gives the knowledge. He Himself has to give the knowledge. He Himself is the Sadguru. [What about] all the others? When there is only one Sadguru, what are all the others? All the others are false gurus.

He Himself is the Giver of true liberation. For this reason they call Him: Come and save us from degradation. Save us from degradation? From what is someone saved? If someone cries out: save me, save me! What does it mean? There is someone who is troubling him. Therefore what does “save us from degradation” mean? There are some who are after them, to lead them to degradation. [So, they say] Save us from them! So, the Supreme Soul Father comes and saves them from degradation, He gives true liberation. For this reason they call Him: Come and save us from degradation. It is not that the Supreme Soul came, He narrated knowledge and went away and then, we will protect ourselves from degradation. No. He comes and Himself saves us from degradation. It is not that He goes away just after narrating knowledge, He goes away after making them Brahmins. No. To become a Brahmin from a Shudra is the first machinery. Then, the second machinery is to make them into deities from Brahmins. So, it is a double machinery for you children. Call it missionary. For this reason they call Him: Come and save us from degradation.

But we become satopradhaan worshippers; we have been passing through rebirths. The first birth will certainly be good. Then we gradually come down. All the human beings who come will certainly go down the Ladder. It doesn’t matter that the name of Buddha and so on isn’t mentioned in [the picture of] the Ladder. Why? Why isn’t the name of Buddha and so on mentioned in the Ladder? It is because the Ladder represents the ones who have 84 births. the Ladder doesn’t represent those who have lesser [number of] births. If they are shown in the Ladder, they too certainly have to climb down the Ladder. Who? The people of the other religions. They definitely have to pass through sato, rajo [and] tamo [stages]. Now all are tamopradhaan.

Now the Father explains, all these scriptures and so on belong to the path of Bhakti. There aren’t any scriptures in the path of knowledge, [scriptures] in which there are many types of the karm kaand (ceremonial acts and sacrificial rites and rituals). Karm kaand: do this, do that, do that. The scriptures don’t teach true karma Yoga. One Father alone is the Giver of knowledge. Only the Ocean of Knowledge comes and narrates the true knowledge. All the others narrate false knowledge.
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Audio Cassette No.19, Kampil
Mu. 25.12.91
Part-4


It is day for half a cycle. There is no question of Bhakti then. Which is the day for half a cycle? It is not that there is happiness for half a cycle in the Golden and the Silver Ages, and there is sorrow for half a cycle in the Copper and the Iron Ages, therefore it became the night. No one has the true knowledge of happiness and sorrow, of night and day at all there. Which place does it concern? It concerns the Confluence Age when the Sun of Knowledge is revealed in a saakaar (physical) body. So, it is like the day. And when He becomes hidden; when the sun sets, it becomes the dark night of ignorance. Where is the memorial of the sunset? Where is the memorial of the sunset? Where is the memorial of the sunrise? The sunset point is shown in Mount Abu. And which is the other city, the place where the Sun of Knowledge rises? (Student: Kampil.) Kampil? Has it risen here? [Just] visit the neighbourhood and see! Well, there can be darkness below the lamp, but under the sun? Can there be darkness where there is the sun? No. Had there been sunrise in Mount Abu… none of the residents of Mount Abu have been able to understand till today. Has anyone become a Brahma Kumar… especially a resident of Mount Abu? Until now no one has been able to become a Brahma Kumar because there is darkness below the lamp. So, it cannot be said that the Sun of Knowledge has risen. So, there is a certain city which is given the very name… What? When the Sun of Knowledge appeared, the darkness of ignorance was destroyed (gyaan Surya pragataa to agyaan andher vinaash). That city certainly should be at the place of kings. It is because only the royal son souls, who become kings, will reveal the Supreme Soul Father. Now, our place is not any physical place either. What? Our sun is not physical and the moon is not physical either. Our cities are not physical either. Delhi is living as well as Bombay is living and Calcutta is living too. London is living and New York is living as well. So, the unlimited Rajasthan... even in that [unlimited Rajasthan], Nepal , [the place] which especially sustains the new world… there is also one such city there, in the gathering of those who sustain the new world, from where the Supreme Soul Father is revealed in a special form. So there is only the one Giver of knowledge. He narrates the true knowledge.

Even in that [cycle of 5000 years], there is day for half the cycle and night for half the cycle. They (those living in the day) don’t suffer misfortune during the day. There is no question of ever suffering misfortune during the day. Why? It is because the Sun of Knowledge has appeared. If the Sun of Knowledge is revealed on the earth in the form of the intellect, if they (the children) have faith, then the soul who has faith can never suffer misfortune. Which soul will suffer misfortune? Which soul will suffer misfortune? The one in whose intellect there is the darkness of ignorance, the one in front of whom the Sun of Knowledge is not revealed. If the Sun of Knowledge is hidden, there will certainly be darkness. And if there is darkness, will he be called the one with a faithful intellect? Will he be said to be in the list of nischaybuddhi vijayanti (the one with a faithful intellect becomes victorious)? He can’t be said so. Certainly, he is in a dark night. It won’t be called the day of Brahma. What will it be called at that time? The night of Brahma. Whenever some children have doubt, the Father dies for them at that time. They have a faithful intellect right now, and then have a doubtful intellect in the next moment. So, does the Father become alive one moment, and die the next moment? The Father certainly doesn’t become alive nor does He die. When He has come on this stage-like world, He will go only after completing the work. But it concerns the earth-like intellect. Each soul has its own earth-like intellect. So, sometimes the soul goes abroad. And when the intellect becomes foreign, when the earth-like intellect becomes foreign, meaning it comes under the influence of the foreigners, the Supreme Soul Father becomes hidden. Darkness falls. But Baba has said that it is the foreigners who will reveal the Father. They will not do it, they have done it! In the Brahmin family, the seed-form souls in the Brahmin world, the powerful seeds of other religions from among those seed-form souls revealed the Father in the year 76. In its memorial the Brahma Kumars and Kumaris celebrated ‘the year of the Father’s revelation’. So, the foreign seeds did reveal the Father. But on one hand they reveal [Him] and [on the other hand] they also become the ones with a doubting intellect because of not having complete knowledge. They fall asleep in the sleep of Kumbhakaran. Therefore, whether [the Father] was revealed or not, it becomes the same. It is because they don’t have the power of purity of many births, of the previous births. It (impurity) comes as an obstacle in front of them and if impurity arises while following the path of knowledge, the purushaarth will certainly go down. It is not possible that impurity and knowledge go together. The knowledge of the Supreme Soul will remain stable only in the intellect [of the one] who has purity. The extent to which someone does purushaarth for purity, the knowledge will remain stable in him to that extent.

Acchaa! The beads of the Rudramaalaa (the rosary of Rudra) are kings for birth after birth, especially the kings of Bharat, who continued to become impure and break unity. So, the souls who become kings birth after birth, the beads of the Rudramaalaa, will they be said to have purity or not? They certainly don’t have purity. So, when they don’t have purity, will knowledge remain stable in them or not?
(A student said something.) How will knowledge remain stable if they don’t have purity? If they don’t have purity, how will knowledge remain stable? Baba has said that the milk of the lioness can be contained in the golden utensil. The milk of the lioness cannot remain in an earthen utensil, in the utensil of the earth of body consciousness.

There is a lioness and there is also a lion in the Trimurti. So, the milk of knowledge that has come from the mouth of a lioness cannot be contained in someone impure. What does it mean by ‘cannot be contained’? In the Brahmin world, the souls who become the beads of the Rudramaalaa, the special souls of the Advance Party, the souls with a planning intellect, aren’t they knowledgeable souls? Are they knowledgeable souls? What kind of knowledge is it, which doesn’t leave imprint on others? If there is no power of remembrance, if there is no love for the Supreme Soul, certainly there is impurity. Remember Me alone! If it (the remembrance) is mixed, certainly there is impurity. Then it doesn’t matter how much we keep narrating knowledge. First of all, the souls who are purer, who have a bigger reserve of purity of the previous births, they will not listen [to us] at all. Just like when the Brahma Kumars and Kumaris go and narrate knowledge to the Sanyasis; since they (the Sanyasis) are filled with the power of purity, they do listen [to the knowledge] externally, but they don’t assimilate anything internally. So, unless there is a connection (Yoga), unless there is love, unless there are feelings of purity for the Supreme Soul, other souls cannot be influenced. That sword of knowledge doesn’t have the excellence of remembrance.

So he (who does not have that purity) is not knowledgeable; what is he? He is ignorant. He will not be called a knowledgeable soul. As such, what was Ravan also called in the world? Is Ravan considered knowledgeable or ignorant in the eyes of the world? Is he considered as a Brahmin or a Shudra? What was Ravan? He was a great scholar. He was very knowledgeable. But he was adulterated. And as long as he is adulterated, he cannot attain true liberation or liberation either. Now the topic that started, that was going on was: Ram himself becomes Ravan. And what does Ravan become then? He becomes Ram. So, when will the soul of Ram attain true liberation? When will it take place? Is it when he becomes unadulterated or will he attain true liberation by remaining adulterated? How will he attain true liberation?
(A student said something.) Of Ravan? (A student said something.) I don’t understand. (Another student said something.) He will attain true liberation by becoming unadulterated. Acchaa. When Ram becomes unadulterated, will the true liberation of the world take place? When Ram becomes unadulterated with the body, with wealth and with the mind, will the path of liberation and true liberation be closed or not? It is because except for the Supreme Soul, no one can bring about liberation and true liberation. Now the string is entangled. What? Because if the soul of Ram becomes unadulterated, what will the Supreme Soul Shiva do with regard to His entrance in him? He will stop [entering him]. So, whoever had to attain true liberation and liberation to whatever extent, they will attain that much. For this reason, that one second is fixed for Brahma, [to become] Brahma so Vishnu; whether it is the corporeal (vyakt) Brahma or the subtle (Avyakt) Brahma, it takes only one second to become Vishnu from Brahma because the speed is fast.

So the fast speed of purushaarth ... there are some runners ... it is seen that those who are good runners will run slowly in the beginning and when the last chance comes, they will invest all their power. It is because if they are tired in the beginning itself, they cannot take the high jump that they have to take in the end. So similarly, Ram, Krishna or the 108 children of the Rudramaalaa, they too have a very fast speed. And a fast speed is attained by remembering whom? By remembering the Point. It is said in the Murli: The ones who love the Incorporeal One will have a high speed. This topic has been mentioned in the Sanskrit Gita as well: Shipram bhavati muktaatmaa (they become liberated souls quickly). They will be the ones who move at a very high speed. But Baba has mentioned one more thing in the Avyakt Vani: The ones who love the corporeal one will have a good character. What does it mean? Those who love the Incorporeal One will have a bad character! They will definitely be at different levels. Not all can be the same. So the ones who love the Incorporeal One and have a bad character certainly stabilize in the incorporeal stage more, in the remembrance of the Point, and leave [the remembrance of] the corporeal one. What? They become distant from the remembrance of the corporeal one. Why? Why do they become distant when ours is the household path (pravritti marg), when the point has sat in the intellect, [the point] that the soul is inert without the body, the body cannot do anything without the soul and the soul cannot do anything without the body? Just like Baba has said: Shiva cannot do anything without Shakti (Parvati), and the shaktis (the other souls) cannot do anything without Shiva. Therefore the combination of the soul and the body is required.

Then why do they forget the Incorporeal One? Or why do they remember only the corporeal one? The one with a good character forgets the Incorporeal One, and who forgets the corporeal one? Those who have a bad character, who do receive the knowledge, but are the ones with a bad character in the previous births, they have disgust for the corporeal one. It is because in the previous births, the unity of kings has broken again and again. Why has the unity broken? It is because indiscipline increased. The one who should be given a high post, was not given a high post. There is a Father at home…
(A student is saying something.) Don’t look at the corpse (shav). Shav... if the soul itself is not present in it, is it a corpse (shav) or Shiva? Corpse means a dead body. Is there a soul in the dead body? When the soul itself is not in it, it is a corpse, isn’t it? So, will there be attainments by looking at the dead body? And if the soul is sitting in the dead body, will it be called a dead body? Then? (A student said something.) So, it became a living soul, didn’t it? So do you look at the corpse? Will anyone like to look at a corpse? The corpse will start stinking, because the soul itself is not present in it. And here, not just one soul… there are double, triple [amount of] souls. It became a mine of liveliness (caitanyataa). So, when double, triple [amount of] souls are present in it, will it be called a corpse? Will it be called a dead body? So brother, don’t look at the dead body. Whom should you see? Look at Shiva.

If you combine Shiva and Shankar and start looking only at Shankar… so, what is Shankar? What is his task? [He is] destructive. Where will he take you? He will take you in the [stage of] complete degradation, because Baba has called Shankar a barber (hajjaam). What has He called him? A barber; he will shave off the head completely . Just like the heads of Sanyasis are shaved off, aren’t they? Just like Maya shaves off the head. So in the same way, Shankar is called a barber, the one who leads to complete degradation. Then what did he become? Did he become Ram or did he become Ravan?
(Students said something.) What did he become? He became Ravan, didn’t he? (Students: He became Ram.) He became Ram? How did he become Ram? When he shaved off the heads, how did he become Ram? It is about each one’s individual remembrance. Those who are used to look at the incorporeal point of light Shiva along with the corporeal one, those who are used to see the pravritti, those who have the sanskaars of the pravritti for many births or have the sanskaars of maintaining the pravritti (household path), those souls will not experience any difficulty. Who will experience difficulty? [It is] those who have broken the household path in the previous births, who have betrayed it, those who broke one household path and joined a second, third, fourth household path. So, they took and gave sorrow. They became adulterated and made others adulterated. So, such souls cannot remember in the proper way. They will experience difficulty. And those who have good sanskaars of the previous births, who have the sanskaars of being unadulterated, they will find it easy to see the Incorporeal One in the corporeal one. The point did come in the intellect, didn’t it? …that the incorporeal soul has no value without the corporeal. Nature is inert but when Nature is with the Husband of Nature, she cannot be destructive. When does Nature become destructive? When do the five elements bring upheaval? The entire world will be destroyed through Nature. Prakriti [i.e.] Nature will bring the biggest destruction. When will she do it? At the end, when Nature separates from the Husband of Nature. (Concluded)
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Re: Extracts of PBK Murlis - as narrated to the PBKs

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वी.सी.डी.नं.208, कैसेट नं.689, मंगलदेई,
मु.15.03.66, ता.12.04.05
भाग-1


ये रात्रि क्लास है 15 मार्च 1966 का, पहले पेज के मध्यादि में जम्मू मे 9-04-05 को वाणी चल रही थी जगदीश भार्इ, बृजमोहन भार्इ, कुमारका आदि के बारे में। बताया गया था कि जैसे हद के जगदीश भार्इ, बृजमोहन भार्इ, कुमारका है वैसे बेहद में भी है। वो आपस में बैठ करके लिखे, एकचित हो करके अच्छी रीति लिखे। उन्हों को लिखना चाहिए कि सारी बेहद की हिस्ट्री जॉग्रफि फ्रॉम इन्कॉर्पोरियल वर्ल्ड कॉर्पोरियल वर्ल्ड उनकी सारी हिस्ट्री जॉग्रफी हम कमिटी को बता सकते हैं विद विथ फैक्ट्स एण्ड फिगर्स। कौन2 के तीन के नाम लिए? बृजमोहन भार्इ सारे बृज को मोहन करने वाला कौन है? सारे बृज को मोहने वाला कौन है? कृष्ण की सोल माना ब्रह्मा बाबा।

और कुमारिका कौन है? कुमारी, जिसकी यादगार में बनार्इ जाती है कुमारी कन्या का मंदिर प्रसिध्द है, कन्याकुमारी। कौन है? ब्रह्मा की मूर्ति तो एक मूर्ति की बात हो गई। दूसरी मूर्ति कौन है जो कुमारिका है बेहद में? वो तो अम्बा है। अम्बा कहीं कुमारी होती है? अधरकुमारी होगी कि कुमारी होगी? जगदम्बा अधरकुमारी होगी या कुमारी होगी? है तो दोनो के मंदिर। कन्याकुमारी का भी मंदिर प्रसिद्ध है और जगदम्बा का भी मंदिर प्रसिद्ध है। फिर भारत के चरणों में कौन बैठा दिखाया गया है? अरे, विष्णुजी की चरणों में कौन दिखार्इ गर्इ है?
(किसीने कहा-लक्ष्मी।) हाँ, कुमारिका। और सर माथे पर किसको बिठाया है? स्वर्ग के द्वार किसके द्वारा खोलने हैं? माताओं के द्वारा। तो माताओं में बड़ी माता कौन? जगदम्बा, लेकिन यहाँ जगदम्बा माता की बात नहीं है। किसकी बात है? कुमारिका, तो कुमारिका कौन? संगमयुगी? (किसीने कहा-लक्ष्मी।) लक्ष्मी।

और जगदीश, जगत का ईश, सारे जगत का र्इश्वर कौन? नारायण। कौनसा नारायण? संगमयुगी नारायण विश्व महाराजन या सतयुगी नारायण? संगमयुगी विश्व महाराजन। तो बृजमोहन माना ब्रह्मा बाबा। ब्रह्मा बाबा ने तो शरीर छोड़ दिया। फिर कौन? भले शरीर छोड़ दिया लेकिन ब्रह्मा माना बड़ी माँ का पार्ट बजाने वाली अभी भी कोर्इ यज्ञ में कोर्इ है या नहीं है? जगदम्बा। तो जगदम्बा में ब्रह्मा की सोल प्रवेश करके पार्ट बजाती है जो सारे जग को मोह लेती है ब्रह्मा की सोल, कृष्ण की सोल। तो बृजमोहन, जगदीश और कुमारिका बैठ करके आपस में लिखे कि हम सारी हिस्ट्री जॉग्रफी कमिटी को बता सकते हैं कि विथ फैक्ट्स एण्ड फिगर्स। उनसे टार्इम लेना चाहिए। और भी कोर्इ आना चाहे तो आ सकते हैं। ऐसे नहीं ये तीन ही समझाये, तीन के अलावा... कौनसी त्रिमूर्ति बतार्इ? ब्रह्मा, विष्णु, शंकर की तीन मूर्ति के अलावा कोर्इ और भी समझाना चाहे तो आ सकते हैं। ऐसे समझाने से ब्रह्मकुमारियों का नाम अच्छा हो सकता है। अथवा कमिटी के नाम तो मिल सकते होंगे। प्रदर्शनी भी इंग्लिश में तैयार है। देहली में प्रबंध भी सहज हो सकता है। उनको बुलाने का काम हो सकता है। क़सम उठाने की बात भी कमिटी के पास रख सकते हैं। अच्छा, ओम शांती।

इसके बाद दिये हुए है16-3-66 की वाणी के रहे हुए पॉर्इंट्स। पॉईंट्स तो इतनी दी हुर्इ हैं जो अच्छी रीति समझा सकते हैं। भारत क्या था, अब क्या बना है? इस पर भाषण करें तो सर्वव्यापी का ज्ञान और कृष्ण की बात सिद्ध हो जायें। क्या था भारत? सरताज था, विश्व का मालिक था। और अब? सीढ़ी के आदि में दिखाया गया है विश्व महाराजन था और सीढ़ी के अंत में दिखाया गया, अब क्या है? कांटों की शैया पर पड़ा हुआ है। सीढ़ी का चित्र देखा ध्यान से? वो कांटों की शैया पर पड़ा हुआ है भारत और सर के नीचे रखी है गीता। उसके पास कोर्इ प्रॉपर्टी नहीं है सिवाय गीता ज्ञान के। और ब्रह्मा बाबा पड़े हुए है या खड़े हुए है? अंतिम जन्म में भी खड़े हुए हैं। तो हम समझाय सकते हैं कि भारत आदि में क्या था और अब अंत में क्या है। यह अगर बात समझावे, तो सर्वव्यापी का ज्ञान उड़ जावेगा। कैसे? आदि का अमीर, सुबह का अमीर शाम का फ़कीर कौन बनता है? हीरो पार्टधारी। वो हीरो पार्टधारी हीरा कब बनता है? जब उसमें असली हीरा शिव प्रवेश करता है। तो वो शिव उसमें मुकरर रुप से प्रवेश करता है। आदि में भी प्रवेश होके कार्य करता है, मध्य में भी प्रवेश होके कार्य करता है और अंत में भी प्रवेश होकर प्रत्यक्ष होता है और सर्वव्यापी की बात उड़ जाती है कि परमात्मा सर्वव्यापी नहीं है। अगर सर्वव्यापी नहीं है तो फिर एकव्यापी किसमें है? एकव्यापी उसी में है जो दुनिया में अंतिम जन्म में आ करके मोहताज बन जाता है। रोडपति बन जाता है।


VCD No.208, C.No.689, Mangaldeyi,
Mu.15.03.66, Dt.12.04.05
Part-1


This is the night class dated 15th March1966. The class was being in Jammu on 09.04.05 and [we were] in the beginning of the middle part of the first page about Brother Jagdish, Brother Brijmohan, Dadi Kumarika and so on. It was said: Just like there are the limited Brother Jagdish, Brother Brijmohan and [Dadi] Kumarika, in the same way there are these ones in the unlimited as well. They should sit together and write; they should become unanimous and write properly. They should write that they can tell the committee about the entire unlimited history and geography of the Incorporeal World and the corporeal world, with facts and figures. The names of which three [people] were mentioned? Brother Brijmohan. Who is the one who attracts the entire Brij? Who is the one who attracts the entire Brij? (Students: Krishna.) The soul of Krishna, meaning Brahma Baba.

And who is Kumarika? Kumari (virgin), the one in whose memorial the temple of Kumari Kanya is famous. Kanya Kumari. Who is she? The personality of Brahma is one personality. Who is the second personality, the one who is Kumarika?
(A student: Jagadamba Saraswati.) In the unlimited? She is the mother. Is the mother a kumari? Will she be ardhakumari or kumari? Will Jagadamba be ardhakumari or kumari? There are temples of both of them. The temple of Kanya Kumari is famous as well as the temple of Jagadamba is famous. Who is shown sitting at the feet of Bharat? Arey! Who is shown at the feet of Vishnu? (Students: Lakshmi.) Yes, Kumarika. And who is seated on the head? Through whom do the gates of heaven open? Through the mothers. So who is the senior mother among the mothers? Jagadamba. But it is not about the mother Jagadamba here. Is it about whom? About Kumarika. So who is Kumarika? (A student: Laskhmi.) The Confluence Age Lakshmi.

And Jagdish, the controller of the world (jagat ka iish). Who is the lord of the entire world? Narayan. Which Narayan? The Confluence Age Narayan, the emperor of the world or the Golden Age Narayan? The Confluence Age emperor of the world. So, Brijmohan means Brahma Baba. Brahma Baba left his body. Then who is he? Although, he left his body, is there anyone in the Yagya even now who plays the part of Brahma, meaning the senior mother? Jagadamba. So, the soul of Brahma enters Jagadamba and plays the part that attracts the entire world. It is the soul of Brahma, the soul of Krishna. So, Brijmohan, Jagdish and Kumarika should sit together and write: We can tell the committee about the entire history and geography with facts and figures. You should take their time. If anyone else wants to come, he can come. It is not that only three of them should explain. Apart from these three… Which Trimurti was mentioned? If anyone else apart from three personalities, Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar, wants to explain, he can come. By explaining like this the name of the Brahma Kumaris can be renowned or you can have the names of [the members of] the committee. The exhibition also is prepared in English. The arrangements also can be easy in Delhi. They can be invited. You can raise the topic of taking the oath in the committee. Acchaa, Om Shanti.

After this, we have some remaining points from the Murli dated 16.03.66. You are given so many points that you can explain properly what Bharat was and what it has become now. If you make a speech on it, the points regarding the knowledge of omnipresence (sarvavyaapi) and Krishna will be proved. What was Bharat? It was the crown on the head (sirtaaj). He was the master of the world. And what about now? It is shown on the top of the Ladder that he was the emperor of the world and at the bottom of the Ladder it is shown… what is he now? He is lying on a bed of thorns. Did you see the picture of the Ladder carefully? Bharat is lying on a bed of thorns and there is the Gita under his head. He doesn’t possess any property, except for the knowledge of the Gita. And what about Brahma Baba? Is he lying or is he standing? He is standing even in his last birth. So we can explain what Bharat was in the beginning and what he is now, at the end. If you explain this, the knowledge of omnipresence will vanish. How? The rich man in the beginning… the rich man in the morning and the beggar in the evening. Who becomes [this]? The hero actor. When does that hero actor become a diamond (hiiraa)? [He becomes this,] when the true diamond, Shiva, enters him. Shiva enters him in a permanent way. He enters him in the beginning and does his work, he enters him in the middle and does his work and also in the end he enters him and is revealed, and the knowledge of omnipresence vanishes. The Supreme Soul isn’t omnipresent. If he isn’t present in all, then through whom is He ekvyaapi ? He is ekvyaapi through that very one who in his last birth becomes a beggar (mohtaj) in the world; he becomes penniless.
... (to be continued.)
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Re: Extracts of PBK Murlis - as narrated to the PBKs

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वी.सी.डी.नं.208, कैसेट नं.689, मंगलदेई,
मु.15.03.66, ता.12.04.05
भाग-2


कृष्ण की बात भी सिद्ध हो जावेगी। क्या? कृष्ण गीता का भगवान नहीं है। गीता ज्ञान सुनाने वाला गीतापति भगवान कृष्ण नहीं है। गीता माता तो है लेकिन गीता माता का पति, गीता पति भगवान इस सृष्टि रुपी रंगमंच का हीरो पार्टधारी है। जिस हीरो पार्टधारी के द्वारा सारे विश्व धर्मों के उपर विजय प्राप्त की जाती है। झंडे में भी लिखा हुआ है, सत्यमेव जयते। वो विश्व पिता का कार्य है। कृष्ण बच्चे का काम नहीं है। कृष्ण को बच्चा कहा जाता है, राम को बाप कहा जाता है। बच्चा माना बच्चा बुद्धि। जितनी बात मुरली में सुना दी बस, बच्चा उतनी ही बात रट लेता है। उसका गुह्यार्थ क्या है वो बच्चा बुद्धि नहीं जान सकता। तो वो बाप बाप के रुप में समझदार भी है, टीचर के रुप में एक-2 हिज्जे-2 की व्याख्या करने वाला भी है। कोर्इ कहे कि भगवान आया हुआ है तो भगवान अपनी मुरली क्यों नहीं चलाता? अरे, भगवान की भी अपनी मुरली और पराई मुरली होती है? मुरली तो एक ही मुरलीधर की होती है। एक ही मुरली है। मुरली कोर्इ अलग-2 नहीं हो सकती। मुरली का ज्ञान देने वाला एक है। और वो एक जो कुछ भी ब्रह्मा के मुख से सुनाता है... गीता माता, माता का मुख निमित्त बनता है।

इसलिए मुरली में कहा वास्तव में यह ब्रह्मा ही तुम्हांरी जगदम्बा है। क्या? कौन है जगदम्बा? ब्रह्मा की सोल ही तुम्हांरी जगदम्बा है। सहनशक्ति का पार्ट भी किसने बजाया? जगदम्बा, ब्रह्मा ने बजाया। ब्रह्मा का अर्थ भी जगदम्बा है। जगदम्बा का अर्थ भी जगदम्बा है। वही ब्रह्मा की सोल जब किसी नारी चोले में प्रवेश करती है तो वो पार्ट बजाती है जगदम्बा का। पुरुष चोले में प्रवेश है तो उसकी पूजा नहीं होती। नारी चोले में प्रवेश करती है तो उस स्वरूप की पूजा होने लग पड़ती है। तो वो रचना है, चाहे माता के रुप हो और चाहे कृष्ण बच्चे के रुप में हो। कृष्ण बच्चे के रुप में वो फर्स्टक्लास रचना है, और माता के रुप में जब प्रत्यक्ष होती है। तो वो पहली रचना है। संसार में भी पुरुष की पहली रचना कौन होती है? पिता की, जो पिता बनता है उसकी पहली रचना कौन होता है? माता होती है। माता पहली रचना है जगदम्बा लेकिन फर्स्टक्लास रचना नहीं । फर्स्टक्लास रचना कौन? कृष्ण बच्चा, माना ब्रह्मा बाबा संगमयुग में।

यज्ञ के आदि में जो भी मात-पिता थे, वो जगतपिता और जगदम्बा अथवा गीता माता थी। उनसे जो पहली रचना पैदा हुर्इ, उनके द्वारा मुरली चलार्इ गर्इ। वो टाइटिलधारी ब्रह्मा थे। उनको प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा का टार्इटिल मिला जैसे बच्चे को बाप का टार्इटिल मिल जाता है। बाकी बच्चा बाप का काम पूरा नहीं कर सकता। बाप का काम बाप ही पूरा कर सकता है। नयी सृष्टि रचने का काम बाप का है। तो वो बाप कृष्ण बच्चे के द्वारा कार्य का आरंभ करता है। ब्रह्मा बाबा उर्फ कृष्ण बच्चे की आत्मा जब शरीर छोड़ती है तो परमात्मा शिव जो असली प्रजापिता है यज्ञ के आदि वाला वो जो दूसरा जन्म ले करके आता है उसमें प्रवेश करके, विश्वपिता बन करके संसार के सामने प्रत्यक्ष होना शुरु होता है। कब से? 76 से, बाप का प्रत्यक्षता वर्ष जो मनाया गया।

तो इस पर अच्छी रीति भाषण करके समझाना चाहिए। लेख लिख करके बताना चाहिए, कि वो परमपिता परमात्मा सर्वव्यापी नहीं है, एकव्यापी हो करके संसार में प्रत्यक्ष होता है। वो ही गीता का भगवान है। कृष्ण तो उससे पैदा होने वाला बच्चा है। संगमयुग में भी कृष्ण की सोल उर्फ दादा लेखराज बच्चा बुद्धि का पार्ट बजाती है। बच्चा बुद्धि का पार्ट न बजाया होता, तो सन 76 में बाहर की दुनिया में विनाश की घोषणा न की होती। विनाश की घोषणा जो सन 76 के लिए की गई थी उसका कनेक्शन बाहर की दुनिया से था? उसका कनेक्शन बाहर की दुनिया से नहीं था। ब्राह्मणों की संगमयुगी दुनिया से उसका कनेक्शन था। यज्ञ में से, यज्ञकुंड से विनाशज्वाला प्रज्वलित होगी, तो शुरुवात कहाँ से होगी? बाहर की दुनिया से? यज्ञकुंड से ही विनाशज्वाला प्रज्वलित हुर्इ। ब्राह्मणों के अंदर फ्रिक्शन पड़ गया। दो पार्टियाँ हो गयी। वो विघटन विनाश की शुरुवात हो गयी। कहाँ? ब्राह्मणों की संगमयुगी दुनिया में। शुरुवात हुर्इ है तो उसका अंत भी होगा। वो पार्ट नूंधा हुआ है, शंकर द्वारा पुरानी दुनिया का विनाश और नये संगठन की स्थापना। तो स्थापना की भी शुरुवात हुर्इ सन 76 से और विनाश, विघटन की भी शुरुवात हुर्इ।

शंकर का पार्ट पूरा होता है तो नारायण का पार्ट शुरु होता है। व्यक्तित्व एक ही है। एक ही व्यक्तित्व आदि में शंकर का पार्ट बजाता है और अंत में जब नयी दुनिया की स्थापना का टार्इम होता है तो विष्णु अथवा नारायण का पार्ट बजाता है। तो तुम बच्चे अच्छी रीति पॉईंट्स समझा सकते हो। भारत क्या था, अब क्या बना है। अभी जोर से आवाज नहीं हुआ है। कॉलेज और यूनिवर्सिटी में आवाज हो। ये लिखा पढ़ी हो अच्छे से। कुछ बॉम्बे और देहली है, और तो बाकी इन बातों में डल हेडेड बुद्धि है; क्या? जो 8 निकलेंगे, अष्ट रत्न कहाँ से निकलेंगे? विशेष कहाँ से निकलेंगे? बम्बई है विनाशकारी, दिल्ली है स्थापनाकारी। तो वो आठ की प्रत्यक्षता होगी कहाँ से? दिल्ली है स्थापनाकारी और बम्बई है विनाशकारी। तो दो ही तो मूर्तियाँ हैं। स्थापना करने वाला ब्रह्मा और विनाश करने वाला विनाशकारी मूर्ति शंकर। तो दो मूर्तियों में दो का जो विशेष शहर बता दिया... शंकर का विशेष शहर कौनसा बताया? हर-2 बम-2 के नाम पर कौनसा शहर का नाम पड़ गया? बॉम्बे। तो जरुर ज्ञान बम्बों का फटाका हुआ होगा वहाँ से। तो बॉम्बे विनाशकारी।


VCD No.208, C.No.689, Mangaldeyi,
Mu.15.03.66, Dt.12.04.05
Part-2


The point of Krishna will be also proved. What? Krishna is not God of the Gita. Krishna isn’t the one who narrates the knowledge of the Gita, God the Husband of the Gita. He is certainly the mother Gita, but it is the hero actor who on this stage like world is God the Husband of the Gita. Through that hero actor victory is achieved over all the religions of the world. It is also written on the [Indian] flag ‘Only the Truth wins’ (Satyamev jaytey). This is the work of the Father of the world. It is not the work of the child Krishna. Krishna is called the child. Ram is called the Father. ‘Child’ means ‘child like intellect’. The child recites only the things that were narrated in the Murlis. A [person with a] child like intellect can’t know what their deep meaning is. That Father in the form of the Father is knowledgeable; in the form of the teacher he explains everything in detail. Someone may say that if God has come, why doesn’t He narrate his own Murlis? Arey! Are even God’s Murlis [divided into] his own ones and those belonging to the others? The Murlis belong to only the one Murlidhar . The Murlis are the same. The Murlis can’t be different. The Giver of the knowledge of the Murlis is the One. And whatever that One narrates through the mouth of Brahma… the mother Gita, the mouth of the mother becomes an instrument.

That is why it was said in the Murlis: ‘In reality this Brahma himself is your Jagadamba (World Mother).’ What? Who is Jagadamba? It is the soul of Brahma that is your Jagadamba. Who played the role of the power of tolerance?
(Students: Brahma Baba.) Jagadamba, Brahma did. ‘Brahma’ means ‘Jagadamba’. ‘Jagadamba’ also means ‘Jagadamba’. When that very soul of Brahma enters some female body, he plays the role of Jagadamba. He isn’t worshiped, when he enters a male body. When he enters a female body, then that form is worshipped. So he is the creation, whether he is in the form of the mother or in the form of the child Krishna. In the form of the child Krishna, he is the first class creation. And when he is revealed in the form of the mother, he is the first creation. Also in the world, who is the first creation of a man? Who is the first creation of the Father, the one who becomes the Father? (Students: The mother.) It is the mother. The mother, Jagadamba, is the first creation, but she isn’t the first class creation. Who is the first class creation? The child Krishna, meaning Brahma Baba in the Confluence Age.

In the beginning of the Yagya, Jagatpita (World Father) and Jagadamba or the mother Gita were the mother and the Father. The first creation that was born to them, the Murlis were narrated through him. He was the one holding the title of Brahma. He received the title of Prajapita Brahma, just like a child receives the title of his Father. Nevertheless, the child can’t complete the Father’s task. The Father himself can complete the Father’s task. The task of creating the new world belongs to the Father. So that Father starts that task through the child Krishna. When the soul of Brahma Baba alias child Krishna leaves the body, the Supreme Soul Shiva starts being revealed before the world in the form of the Father of the world (vishwapita) after entering [the person] of the beginning of the Yagya, the true Prajapita, when he comes back [in the Yagya] after being reborn. From when? From 76, the year celebrated as the year of the Father’s revelation.

So, you should make proper lectures and explain about this; you should write an article and tell them that the Supreme Father Supreme Soul is not omnipresent, but He is revealed in the world being present in one being. He himself is God of the Gita. Krishna is the child born from him. In the Confluence Age too, the soul of Krishna alias Dada Lekhraj plays the role of [the one with a] child like intellect. Hadn’t he played the role of [the one with a] child like intellect, then he wouldn’t have declared the destruction in the outside world in the year 76. Was the declaration made about the destruction in 76’ connected to the outside world? It wasn’t connected to the outside world. It was connected to the Confluence Age world of the Brahmins. If the flame of destruction is ignited from the yagyakund (pit used for sacrificial fire), then where will it start? In the outside world? The flame of destruction ignited from the yagyakund itself. There was a friction among the Brahmins. Two parties were formed. That disintegration was the beginning of destruction. Where? In the Confluence Age world of the Brahmins. When there was a beginning, there will be also its end. That role is fixed; the destruction of the old world through Shankar and the establishment of the new gathering. So, in the year 76’ the establishment began and the destruction, disintegration also began.

When the role of Shankar is completed, the role of Narayan starts. The personality is the same. The same personality plays the role of Shankar at the beginning and the role of Vishnu or Narayan in the end, when it is the time of establishing the new world. So, you children can explain the points properly, what Bharat was and what he has become now. The voice hasn’t spread much now. The voice should spread in colleges and universities. It should be written properly. Delhi and Bombay are [efficient in this] to some extent; all the others are dull headed in these things. What? The eight [deities], the eight jewels that will emerge, from where will they emerge? From where especially will they emerge? Bombay is destructive, Delhi is constructive. So, from where will the eight [deities] be revealed? Delhi is constructive and Bombay is destructive; so, there are just two personalities, Brahma, the one who does the establishment and Shankar, the one who does the destruction, the destructive personality. So, two special cities of the two personalities were mentioned. Which city was said to be the special city of Shankar? Har har bam bam. Which city was named on the basis of this? Bombay. So certainly, there must have been explosions of the bombs of knowledge there. So, Bombay is destructive.
... (to be continued.)
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Re: Extracts of PBK Murlis - as narrated to the PBKs

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वी.सी.डी.नं.208, कैसेट नं.689, मंगलदेई,
मु.15.03.66, ता.12.04.05
भाग-3


विनाश भी कल्याणकारी है या नुकसानकारक है? कल्याणकारी है। जब तक आसुरी वृत्तियों का, आसुरों का विनाश नहीं होगा तब तक नयी दुनिया की प्रत्यक्षता नहीं हो सकती। तो वो भी जरुरी है। लेकिन पहले स्थापना होती कि पहले विनाश होता है? पहले कोर्इ मकान जो है, वो मकान बनाने के लिए पहले थोड़ा सा एक कमरा सामान वगैरे रखने के लिए तैयार किया जाता है कि नहीं? पहले स्थापना। भल छोटा रुप हो, छोटासा संगठन हो, पहले स्थापना फिर विनाश। तो स्थापना का एक संगठन तैयार होता है। छोटा-सा संगठन, सूर्यवंशी संगठन और वो सूर्यवंशी संगठन तैयार होने पर वो संगठन फिर एक दूसरे संगठनों को खींचता है। इसलिए अव्यक्त वाणी में बोला है एक भी पॉवरफुल संगठन तैयार होने पर एक दूसरे को खींचते हुए अंत में 108 की माला का संगठन एक हो जावेगा।

तो अभी वो टार्इम आया कि नहीं आया? अभी वो टार्इम आ गया। ब्रह्मा बाबा के 30-33 साल पूरे हो गये, क्या? जो 30-33 साल समय था वो उनका पूरा हुआ। ऐसे ही शंकर की मूर्ति के भी 30-33 साल पूरे होने जा रहे हैं। वो भी टार्इम पूरा हुआ। सन 76 से 2006 तक। 2006 तक ये 30 साल पूरे हो रहे हैं ना? तो ये भी पूरा होने जा रहा है। अब एक तरफ विष्णु की मूर्ति प्रत्यक्ष होगी और दूसरे तरफ विनाश का नजारा। विष्णु की मूर्ति के भी दो रुप हैं, एक आधारमूर्तों की दुनिया में और एक बीज रूप आत्माओं के दुनिया में। बीज रूप आत्माओं की दुनिया है या नहीं है? कितने की? बीज रूप आत्मायें वो कितनी है जिनकी माला का गायन है? 108। तो उसमें भी कोर्इ है विशेष मणके जो पहला संगठन तैयार कर लेते हैं। वो पहला संगठन तैयार होना माना विनाश के नगाडे बजना। तो बताया दिल्ली और बंबर्इ है, वो कुछ है। यहाँ से आवाज निकल सकती है। और तो बाकी इन बातों में डलहेडेड है। माना ज्ञान की बातों में उनकी बुद्धि उतनी नहीं चलती है।

नॉलेज भी बहुत सहज समझ जावे, एज्युकेशन डिपार्टमेंट वाले समझ जावे परंतु फिर पवित्र भी तो रहे। भले नॉलेज सहज है, लेकिन इस नॉलेज की प्रत्यक्षता के लिए क्या जरुरी है? प्युरिटी बहुत जरुरी है। योग में रहें बहुत मुश्किल है। योग में रहना बहुत डिफिकल्ट बात है। बहुत कम रहते हैं। कर्मातीत अवस्था योग से होती है। क्या? ज्ञान से कर्मातीत अवस्था नहीं हो सकती, धारणावान बनने से भी कर्मातीत अवस्था नहीं हो सकती है और सेवा करने से भी कर्मातीत अवस्था नहीं हो सकती है। काहे से हो सकती है? याद से ही कर्मातीत अवस्था होती है।

तो जो तीन मूर्तियाँ हैं उनमें याद स्वरुप कौन दिखाया गया है? शंकर को याद रुप दिखाया गया है। तो साबित हुआ कि पहले-2 कर्मातीत अवस्था किसकी होनी है? शंकर की कर्मातीत अवस्था होनी है। तो जिसकी कर्मातीत अवस्था होनी है उसकी नगरी का नाम क्या बता दिया? बंबर्इ, इसलिए बताया वो तीसरे नेत्र वाले की जो नगरी है वो ज्ञान में बड़े तीखे हैं। दिल्ली वाले भी तीखे हैं वो स्थापना के कार्य में तीखे हैं , वो विनाश के कार्य में तीखे हैं। वो तीखापन जो है वो विश्व के ऊपर विजय प्राप्त कराता है और बाप की याद खुशी में लाती है। योग से कर्मातीत अवस्था होती है। कर्मातीत अवस्था हुर्इ माना सब कार्य सम्पन्न स्वत: ही होने लगते हैं।

याद खुशी में भी लाती है। बहुत सहज में सहज ये है, क्या? क्या बात सहज में सहज है?
(किसीने कहा-याद करना।) और अभी तो बोला याद में रहे बहुत मुश्किल है। दोनों बातें कैसी होंगी? कर्मातीत अवस्था हो जावे तो बहुत सहज है। जो पाप कर्म है पूर्वजन्मों के वो सारे ही भस्म हो जाये तो याद में रहना बहुत सहज है। और अगर कर्मातीत अवस्था नहीं हुर्इ, पूर्वजन्म के किये हुए पापों का बोझ जो है वो आत्मा के उपर पड़ा हुआ है तो याद में रहना बहुत मुश्किल है। कर्मातीत अवस्था हो जावे और लड़ार्इ शुरु हो जावे। कमार्इ में कोर्इ भी शारीरिक तकलीफ नहीं है।

VCD No.208, C.No.689, Mangaldeyi,
Mu.15.03.66, Dt.12.04.05
Part-3


Is destruction beneficial or harmful? It is beneficial. Until the demonic attitudes, demons are destroyed, the revelation of the new world can’t take place. So, that is also necessary. Nevertheless, is the establishment first or is the destruction first? [What is] first? In order to build a house… first, do they prepare one room to keep all the things and so on or not? Establishment is first. It may be in a small form; it may be a small gathering. There is establishment first, and then the destruction [takes place]. So, one gathering of establishment becomes ready. It is a very small gathering, the gathering of the Suryavanshis . When that gathering of the Suryavanshis becomes ready, then it pulls the other gatherings. That is why it was said in an Avyakt Vani: ‘When even one powerful gathering becomes ready, that one [gathering] will pull another [gathering] and at the end the gathering of the rosary of 108 will become one.

Has that time come now or not? That time has come now. 30-33 years of Brahma Baba have been completed. What? The period of 30-33 years has been completed. In the same way 30-33 years of the personality of Shankar are also going to be complete. That time has also completed. From the year 76 till ...? From 76 till 2006. These 30 years will be completed till 2006, won’t they? So, this is also going to be completed. Now, the personality of Vishnu will be revealed on one side, and on the other side [we will see] the scene of destruction. There are two forms of the personality of Vishnu. One [form] is in the world of the base-souls (aadhaarmuurt) and the other [form] is in the world of the seed-souls (biijruup aatmaa). Is there a world of the seed souls or not? [It is a world] of how many [souls]? There are how many seed souls, whose rosary is praised? 108. So, even among them there are some special beads who prepare the first gathering. The moment the first gathering is prepared the drums of destruction play. So it was said: Delhi and Bombay are [efficient] to some extent. The voice can spread from there. All the others are dull headed in these things. It means that their intellect doesn’t work so much in the topics of knowledge.

Though they may understand the knowledge very easily, those from the education department may understand [the knowledge], but they should also remain pure. Although, the knowledge is easy, but what is necessary to reveal this knowledge? Purity is very necessary. It is very difficult to remain in Yoga. It is something very difficult to remain in Yoga. Very few ones remain [in Yoga]. The karmaatiit stage is achieved through Yoga. What? The karmaatiit stage cannot be achieved through knowledge. The karmaatiit stage cannot be achieved through becoming dhaarnaavaan either. And the karmaatiit stage cannot be achieved by doing service either. How can it be achieved? The karmaatiit stage is achieved only through remembrance.

Who among the three personalities is shown as the embodiment of remembrance? Shankar is shown as the embodiment of remembrance. So, it is proved that who has to achieve the karmaatiit stage first of all? Shankar has to achieve the karmaatiit stage. So, what was the city of the one who has to achieve the karmaatiit stage named? Bombay. That is why it was said that the city of the one with the third eye is very sharp in knowledge. The ones from Delhi are also sharp. These ones (people from Delhi) are sharp in the task of establishment and those ones (people from Bombay) are sharp in the task of destruction. This sharpness makes [him] gain victory over the world. The remembrance of the Father brings you in [the stage of] happiness. The karmaatiit stage is achieved through Yoga. If someone achieves the karmaatiit stage all his tasks are accomplished automatically.

Remembrance also brings you in [the stage of] happiness. This is the easiest. What? What is the easiest?
(Students: Remembrance.) And now it was said that remaining in remembrance is very difficult. How will both the things be possible? It is very easy, if someone achieves the karmaatiit stage. When all the sinful actions of the previous births are burnt into ashes, it is very easy to remain in remembrance. And, if someone hasn’t achieved the karmaatiit stage, if the soul is burdened with the actions, sins committed in the previous births, it is very difficult to remain in remembrance. Once you have achieved the karmaatiit stage the war will start. There is no physical trouble in earning [the spiritual] income. ... (to be continued.)
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वी.सी.डी.नं.208, कैसेट नं.689, मंगलदेई,
मु.15.03.66, ता.12.04.05
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अच्छा, मनुष्य से देवता बन जाना ये भी ज्ञान और योग का जादू है। क्या? ज्ञान की खसुसियत है, योग की खसुसियत है कि मनुष्य को देवता बनाय देती है। हरेक बात अर्थ सहित है। ये है बाप से गुप्त बादशाही लेना। जैसे गुप्त दान होता है, कोर्इ को भी पता न पड़े, क्या? दान इस तरह देना है, चाहे कोर्इ भी चीज़ का दान हो... धन के ही दान की बात नहीं है। कोर्इ वस्तु का दान हो, धन का दान हो, योगदान हो, ज्ञान का दान हो... इसलिए एक-2 को बैठके समझाना चाहिए, या हुजूम को बैठ करके भाषण देना चाहिए? कौनसा दान श्रेष्ठ है? (किसीने कहा-ज्ञान दान।) ज्ञान दान, कौनसा दान श्रेष्ठ है? ज्ञान तो आजकल के बड़े-2 धर्मगुरु जो है वो तो लाखों के मजमे में बैठ करके ज्ञान दान दे देते हैं। तो वो प्रत्यक्ष हुआ या गुप्त हुआ? तो प्रत्यक्ष हो गया।

ब्रह्मकुमार ब्रह्मकुमारियँ भी क्या कर रहे हैं? हुजूम को दे रहे हैं या एक-2 के ऊपर ज्यादा मेहनत कर रहे हैं? अभी? पहले करते थे। पहले सप्ताहिक कोर्स का और भट्टी का महत्व होता था। अभी वो महत्व नहीं रहा। तो पैसा कमाने वाले जो होते हैं वो हुजूम को बैठ करके देते हैं और जन्म-जन्मांतर की जो प्रारब्ध है, वो बनाने के लिए जन्म-जन्मांतर के वारिसदार तैयार करने के लिए एक-2 आत्मा को बैठक समझाने में ज्यादा गुप्त रहता है। एक आत्मा को बैठके समझायेंगे (तो) उसको दृष्टि मिलेगी पवित्र कि व्यभिचारी दृष्टि मिलेगी? अव्यभिचारी दृष्टि मिलेगी। वृत्ति कैसे मिलेगी? जब दृष्टि अव्यभिचारी होगी तो वायब्रेशन भी अव्यभिचारी मिलेंगे, और जो वाचा से वाचा का मेल होगा वो एक क्वेश्चन करेगा और एक ही उसका जवाब देगा। नहीं तो हुजूम बैठा होता है, वो तो प्रश्न उत्तर की बात ही नहीं। अगर दो चार बैठे हुए हैं तो एक क्या करेगा? तो एक प्रश्न करेगा दूसरे का उस प्रश्न में कोर्इ इन्ट्रेस्ट नहीं। कोर्इ इन्ट्रेस्ट न होने कि वजह से दूसरे लोग सोते रहेंगे, तो वायब्रेशन खराब हो जायेगा। वायब्रेशन खराब होगा, वृत्तियाँ खराब होंगी तो बिगाड होगा या सुधार होगा? बिगाड होगा। तो बोला यहाँ तो हर बात अर्थ सहित है, जैसे गुप्त दान होता है कोर्इ को पता नहीं पड़े।

बाप भी तुमको गुप्त दान दे रहे हैं। क्या? बाप जो तुमको ज्ञान रत्नों का दान दे रहे हैं वो पता चलता है कि किसको दे रहे और किसको नहीं दे रहे हैं? किसको प्रत्यक्ष दे रहे किसको गुप्त दे रहे हैं? प्रत्यक्ष तो किसी को देते नहीं। गुप्त ही दे रहे हैं इसलिए कोर्इ उठाता है, कोर्इ नहीं उठाता है। उठाने वाले जो हैं वो भी पुरुषार्थी । जैसा-2 उनका पुरुषार्थ वैसा-2 उनका उठाना होता है। दुनिया को पता नहीं पड़ता है। वर्सा कहो, दान कहो, बच्चों की बुद्धि में बहुत पॉइन्टस मिलती रहती है। शिवबाबा बेहद का बाबा, जिसको सभी याद करते हैं, वो ही रचयिता है। कौन? शिवबाबा। परमधाम में रहने वाला बिन्दु?
(किसीने कहा-नहीं।) क्यों? वो शिवबाबा नहीं है? वो शिवबाप है, बिन्दु-2 आत्माओं का बाप। वो जब साकार तन में प्रवेश करता है, तो दूसरे संबंध बनते हैं। बाबा माना ग्रैंड फादर। तो साकार तन में प्रवेश करने पर वो शिवबाबा बनता है। और वो शिवबाबा बेहद का बाबा हैं, हद का बाबा नहीं है।

हद का बाबा जो होते हैं, वो ग्रैंड फादर कितनों के बाबा होते हैं? 2, 4, 5, 8, 10, 50 बच्चों के बाप होंगे। अच्छा धर्मपिताओं के रुप में सौ करोड़, डेढ़ सौ करोड़ के बाप होंगे। इससे जास्ती तो हो न सके, लेकिन वो 500-700 करोड़ मनुष्य आत्माओं का बाप बनता है। जब इस भंभोर को आग लगेगी तो 500-700 (करोड़) सब मनुष्य आत्मायें सरेण्डर हो जायेंगी, उसको अपना बाप स्वीकार करेंगी प्रैक्टिकल में, मानेंगी ये गॉड फादर है, ये एडम है, आदम है, विश्वपिता है। जरुर भारत को स्वर्ग का वर्सा दिया होगा। बरोबर भारत को स्वर्ग का वर्सा था। चित्र भी है सतयुग था। अभी तो कलियुग है। कलियुग में सब पतित बन जाते हैं।


VCD No.208, C.No.689, Mangaldeyi,
Mu.15.03.66, Dt.12.04.05
Part-4


Acchaa! Becoming a deity from a man is also the magic of knowledge and Yoga. What? It is the specialty of knowledge and Yoga that a human being is transformed into a deity. Everything is meaningful. This is [called] taking the secret kingdom from the Father. Just like there is secret donation. No one should know about it. What? A donation should be given in such a way… It may be the donation of anything. It is not only about the donation of wealth; it may be the donation of an object, the donation of wealth, the donation of Yoga, the donation of knowledge… That is why should you sit and explain [the knowledge] to every person individually or should you sit and give lectures to a crowd? Which donation is elevated? (Students: The donation of knowledge.) The donation of knowledge, but which one? Nowadays the famous religious gurus sit and give the donation of knowledge to crowds of hundreds thousands (lakhs) of people. Is it revealed or secret [donation]? It is revealed [donation].

What are the Brahmakumars kumaris also doing? Are they giving [knowledge] to crowds of people or are they making effort more [of giving the knowledge] to each person individually?
(Students said something.) Now; they used to [make effort to serve people individually] earlier. Earlier the one-week course and the bhatti used to have their importance. This importance no more exists. So, the ones who earn money, sit and narrate [knowledge] to crowds. And to obtain fruit (prarabdh) for many births, to create heirs for many births, if we sit and explain to each soul separately, it will be more secretive. If we sit with one soul and explain to him, he will receive a pure drishti (glance). Or will he receive adulterous drishti? He will receive an unadulterated drishti. What kind of vibrations (vritti) will he receive? When the drishti is unadulterated, then he will also receive the unadulterated vibrations. And the meeting of speech ... One [person] will ask a question and only one [person] will answer it. Otherwise, where a crowd is sitting, there is no question of asking questions and giving answers at all. If two - four people are sitting, then what will happen? One [person] will ask a question, [but] the other [person] is not interested in that question. The other people will sleep, because they aren’t interested in it. So, the vibrations will be spoilt. If the vibrations are spoilt, attitudes are spoilt, then will there be decline or improvement? There will be decline. So it was said: Everything is meaningful here. Just like there are secret donations. No one should know about them.

The Father is also giving you secret donation. What? The donation of the jewels of knowledge that the Father is giving you; does anybody know about to whom He is giving and to whom He isn’t giving? [Do you come to know that] to whom He is giving them in a revealed form and to whom he is giving in secrecy? He doesn’t give them to anyone in a revealed form. He is giving them only in a secret form. That is why someone takes them and someone doesn’t take them. The ones who take them are purushaarthi (the ones who make spiritual effort). They take [the jewels] according to their purushaarth. The world doesn’t know about it. You may call it inheritance, you may call it donation. The children keep receiving many points in their intellect. ShivBaba, the unlimited Baba, whom all remember, He Himself is the Creator. Who? ShivBaba. Is it about the Point that stays in the Supreme Abode?
(A student: No.) Why? Isn’t He ShivBaba? (Students: Shivbaap (the Father Shiva).) He is the Father Shiva, the Father of the point like souls. When He enters the corporeal body, then other relationships are formed. Baba means the grand Father. When He (the Father Shiva) enters the corporeal body, he becomes ShivBaba; and that ShivBaba is the unlimited Baba; he isn’t the limited Baba.

The limited Babas, grand fathers are grand fathers for how many [people]? [For] two, four, five, eight, ten, fifty [people]. Acchaa, the ones in the form of the religious fathers will be fathers of 1 – 1.5 billion [people]. [The population] cannot be more than this. But, that one becomes the Father of five-seven billion human souls. When this haystack catches fire, all the five-seven billion human souls will become surrendered. They will accept him as their Father in practice; they will accept that he is God the Father; [they will accept] that he is Adam, Aadam, the Father of the world (Vishvapita). He will have certainly given the inheritance of heaven to Bharat. Certainly, Bharat had the inheritance of heaven. There are also the pictures. There was the Golden Age, now it is the Iron Age. All become impure (patit) in the Iron Age.
... (to be continued.)
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