Extracts of ShivBaba’s Murli [via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit ] – as narrated to the PBKs
VCD No.585, Audio Cassette No.1071, dated 31.12.06, Adhyatmik Krishi Farm,
Clarification of Murli dated 25.9.98
Ref. No.VCD-585-Part-I-Eng.
... Murli dated 25.9.98 at Vishakhapatnam. In the beginning of the middle portion of the second page the matter being narrated was- When you children read newspapers, you should think and tally that how should we explain everyone on the basis of the news from the newspaper. You also know that how the BKs are looking after their shops. Which shop of the seth (shop owner/merchant/wealthy person) is being run nicely and which manager is good - this is known either to the jaggery or the bag of jaggery (gur jaaney gur kee gothri jaaney). You children also know numberwise. This Brahma is the bag (of jaggery). These are very interesting matters (ramneek baatein).
It has been written about the Rudra Gyaan Yagya that - the flame of destruction was ignited from it. How would the flame of destruction emerge from the Rudra Gyaan Yagya? Gyaan, i.e. knowledge should lead to prosperity and peace (sukh-shaanti). Why should it lead to destruction? What does knowledge mean? Information of what? Hm? The information of truth; and when the truth emerges, then God Father is called truth. When does He get revealed? He does not get revealed in the Golden Age. Not in the Silver Age, not in the Copper Age. When? (Everyone said - at the end of the Iron Age) When the entire world becomes a land of untruth in the Age of disputes (kalah) distress (klesh), then the knowledge of truth gets revealed. So, what would be the result? The entire world consists of false persons (jhoothey). Falsehood (jhooth) means ignorance (agyaan). If there is ignorance prevalent everywhere and if the light of truth starts getting revealed, then will there be a dispute between darkness and light or not? (Everyone said - it will take place) All are false people and among those false people, a handful of such children emerge, who keep facing (or clashing with) those who create the land of untruth and their followers. While facing (or clashing with) them continuously, ultimately Maya gobbles them also and at the same time that God Father Truth gets revealed - among those children, who had been clashing with the untruth.
In the dualistic world who came to spread falsehood, those who spread dualism? Truth is one and untruth is many. Truth is one Father and untruth are many religious fathers. So those who remain unshakeable from beginning to the end and keep fighting the untruth that the religious fathers, the human gurus came and spread, do not get converted; otherwise those who have become Hindus, those who call themselves to be Hindus, they have been getting converted to all the religions. When Abraham came, they got converted to Islam. When Christ came, they got converted to Christianity. So, should those who get converted be called truth or untruth? (Someone said - untruth) And the number of Indians went on decreasing. Those who began decreasing in number went on getting influenced. Today entire India is influenced (prabhaavit). By whom? By the foreigners. So, those who spread the land of untruth (jhooth khand) have created the land of untruth. In the end the entire world becomes false. Now who will hope for transformation (to be brought about) from the handful of children who survive? The human gurus do not have the power to change. So the God Father alone has to come in this world. He comes and tells - all have become false. In this sinful world everyone has become sinful. There is not even a single pure one left. Not even a single pure, truthful one is left.
70 years ago, establishment had taken place in Sindh, Hyderabad and the seed of truth was laid in that establishment. In whom was the seed of truth laid? The seed of truth was laid only in those souls who had become instruments (nimitt) in the beginning of the Yagya. Those 9 lakh stars glimmer in the sky in the beginning of the new world as memorials (yaadgaar). Those living stars of the Earth who create memorials give the light of knowledge to the entire world. Now they are becoming instruments in giving that light (roshni). They had become earlier too. Seventy years ago also, they had accepted the truth in Sindh, Hyderabad. What happened next? Why did the truth not get revealed? The truth did not get revealed in Sindh, Hyderabad because – among all the souls who were instruments, the maximum percentage of souls were of such souls which had come after being converted from other religions. The Supreme Soul Father gathered the converted children only, on the basis of divine visions (saakshaatkaar) because the knowledge could not have been delivered in the beginning. The souls got attracted on the basis of divine visions. Well, since they were souls connected with different religions. They were the souls that had been converted to other religions (in the past births). Some had remained converted since a long time and some had got converted recently. Those who had got converted since a long time started sowing the seeds of poison. They first of all observe untruth in the knowledge also.
This Godly knowledge gets fitted and gets fitted for a long time into the intellect of those souls who never get converted. They get influenced in the last birth a little because Maya does not spare anyone. Then, when those souls suddenly find the Godly path, then it is but natural for the disputes to take place. Disputes had occurred in the beginning of the Yagya too. The flame of destruction had got ignited from the Yagya kund along with the establishment. And the 10-5 percent souls among them which were true got burnt to death (not in literal sense) and vanished. The crowd clashed with them. When they were truthful and when they had found truth, when they had found the True Father, then why did they need to vanish? Why did they shake? Why has it been said that Ram failed? Did Ram alone fail or were there others also following him belonging to the Ram community who left the Yagya? Why did they leave? It is because the number of false persons was more. The number of those who did not recognize the truth was more, the number of those who lost faith was more and that wave engulfed the Chandravanshis (those belonging to the Moon Dynasty) also. Who? Those who had got converted to the religions like Islam, Buddhism, Christianity, etc ...(to be continued)
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Note: This is only a draft of the extracts of above-mentioned VCD for favour of information. Only when the translation of the entire Murli contained in this VCD is released, that may be considered as the final version. The words in italics are Hindi words.
Extracts of PBK Murlis - as narrated to the PBKs
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Extracts of ShivBaba’s Murli [via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit ] – as narrated to the PBKs
VCD No.585, Audio Cassette No.1071, dated 31.12.06, Adhyatmik Krishi Farm,
Clarification of Murli dated 25.9.98
Ref. No.VCD-585-Part-II-Eng.
....The insect-like souls also continued to get sustenance in the Yagya. All those souls, who had got converted to religions like Islam, Buddhism, Christianity, etc. in the past 63 births, continued to obtain sustenance in the lap of Brahma; and Brahma as well as souls like Brahma continued to tolerate. On what basis? Why did they continue to tolerate and why did those belonging to the Sun Dynasty (Suryavanshi) depart? (Someone said - Brahma's part was the part of a mother, wasn't it?) Yes, mothers are sentimental. So, on the basis of sentiments (bhaavna), once the Mother India has given her heart to someone, then that is final. He (i.e. Dada Lekhraj Brahma) had divine visions; he had the practical experience, although he did not understand the meanings of the divine visions. The soul of Ram became instrument for that, but the soul of Ram did not have divine visions and even if it had had divine visions, they were intelligent (buddhivaali) souls, intellectual (buddhivaadi) souls.
One kind of souls is intellectuals and one kind of souls is emotional (dilwaley), sentimental (bhaavnaavaadi). So, the intellectual souls were not going to simply acccept. So they departed. When the moon of knowledge (gyaan chandrama) Brahma and the souls like Brahma, who belonged to the Moon Dynasty, stayed on. In the beginning of the Yagya there was devotion and emotion (Bhakti-bhavana). There was no knowledge or we can say that there was incomplete knowledge. Because of that incomplete knowledge those Suryavanshi souls could not stay on. This struggle continued for a long time. The souls like Brahma continued to tolerate and while continuing to tolerate, ultimately those tormentor children, who get converted, took the life of the mother.
After the departure of souls like Brahma and Saraswati, all their true followers also departed. Then the false ones (naklee) remained. After Brahma left his body, after Mama left her body, the power of the Yagya came into the hands of those false ones. When Mama left her body, then Mama's seat was looked after by such a shakti, which was an illusive form (mayavi roop) and after Brahma Baba left his body the power of the Yagya came into the hands of such brothers, who are going to become Narayans pertaining to other religions, but meanwhile the Suryavanshis who left their bodies in the beginning of the Yagya, who are called a lamp of diamonds (heeron kee shama). There are 9 kinds of gems; those 9 kinds of gems can be tallied with the 9 religions. Those Suryavanshis of the beginning, enter the Yagya after Brahma left his body and as soon as Brahma's age, the age of the First Brahma (Aadi Brahma) crosses 100 years, Brahma's period in the abode of death (mrityulok) ends and that soul enters into the abode of immortality (amarlok). It does not enter wth the body. It enters at the intellectual level (bauddhik star). It gets transformed from the intellectual level to the pure (satwic) stage.
The clarification is received in the mature (paripakwa) stage that - the versions (Vani) that has been narrated through Brahma, the vedvani that emerged from the mouth of Brahma; although the true meaning of those versions was not understood even by Brahma because Brahma has been described to possess a baby-like intellect. When Brahma himself did not know, then how can his supportive power (sahyogini shakti) come to know?....So that soul of the beginning of the Yagya, who was intellectual (bauddhik), intellectualist (buddhivaadi), gets the food for the intellect. The Supreme Soul, who narrated the vedvani through Brahma, the same Supreme Soul clarifies the meaning of that Vedvani also through the second personality. The meaning becomes clear but who understands it? Who would understand first? The same Suryavanshi children, who had got separated in the beginning of the Yagya, take rebirth and enter the Yagya numberwise as per their efforts and catch that Vani, which is later called the Advance Party. This way the Rudra Gyan Yagya starts.
In a way the foundation was laid in the beginning of the Yagya also, but it was for the name sake, for the sake of laying the seed that Dada Lekhraj would become the soul of Krishna. He has to get revealed as ‘Brahma becomes Vishnu’ and this world is going to be destroyed. The new world is going to arrive; the old world is going to depart. Now this Iron Age is going to end. The Golden Age is going to arrive. This foundation was laid in the seed. But the knowledg of the seed can be present in the seed alone. This is not a gross seed. The one, who was the seed, got separated in the beginning of the Yagya itself. When the same seed comes into the Yagya again, then first of all, the versions that emerged from the mouth of Brahma, the expanse of that seed is contained in his intellect. That is why it has been said – truth is one. When God is one, the Son of God is also said to be one.
That Supreme Soul Father reveals the entire clarification of those Murlis through the soul of Ram. In front of whom? In front of those children, who were in the beginning of the Yagya also or had departed after a struggle (sangharsh) at the beginning of the Yagya also. The crowd (hujoom) was big. They could not face the false people. Why could not they face them? It is because there was not much knowledge in the beginning of the Yagya. And now? Now the knowledge has expanded so much that if you make the entire jungle (woods) as pens (kalam) and if you make the entire ocean as ink (syaahi), even then this knowledge is not going to finish. Such is the expanse (vistaar) of the knowledge. Well, there is a difference of day and night (i.e. a world of difference) between the limited knowledge of the books written by the human beings and the Godly knowledge. There is a difference of day and night. Those scholars & teachers (vidwaan-aachaarya) give replies to any question after consulting books and what about the children of God? The ones, in whose intellect this Godly knowledge is fitted, need not consult any book. The answer to every thing is available immediately ...(to be continued)
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Note: This is only a draft of the extracts of above-mentioned VCD for favour of information. Only when the translation of the entire Murli contained in this VCD is released, that may be considered as the final version. The words in italics are Hindi words.
VCD No.585, Audio Cassette No.1071, dated 31.12.06, Adhyatmik Krishi Farm,
Clarification of Murli dated 25.9.98
Ref. No.VCD-585-Part-II-Eng.
....The insect-like souls also continued to get sustenance in the Yagya. All those souls, who had got converted to religions like Islam, Buddhism, Christianity, etc. in the past 63 births, continued to obtain sustenance in the lap of Brahma; and Brahma as well as souls like Brahma continued to tolerate. On what basis? Why did they continue to tolerate and why did those belonging to the Sun Dynasty (Suryavanshi) depart? (Someone said - Brahma's part was the part of a mother, wasn't it?) Yes, mothers are sentimental. So, on the basis of sentiments (bhaavna), once the Mother India has given her heart to someone, then that is final. He (i.e. Dada Lekhraj Brahma) had divine visions; he had the practical experience, although he did not understand the meanings of the divine visions. The soul of Ram became instrument for that, but the soul of Ram did not have divine visions and even if it had had divine visions, they were intelligent (buddhivaali) souls, intellectual (buddhivaadi) souls.
One kind of souls is intellectuals and one kind of souls is emotional (dilwaley), sentimental (bhaavnaavaadi). So, the intellectual souls were not going to simply acccept. So they departed. When the moon of knowledge (gyaan chandrama) Brahma and the souls like Brahma, who belonged to the Moon Dynasty, stayed on. In the beginning of the Yagya there was devotion and emotion (Bhakti-bhavana). There was no knowledge or we can say that there was incomplete knowledge. Because of that incomplete knowledge those Suryavanshi souls could not stay on. This struggle continued for a long time. The souls like Brahma continued to tolerate and while continuing to tolerate, ultimately those tormentor children, who get converted, took the life of the mother.
After the departure of souls like Brahma and Saraswati, all their true followers also departed. Then the false ones (naklee) remained. After Brahma left his body, after Mama left her body, the power of the Yagya came into the hands of those false ones. When Mama left her body, then Mama's seat was looked after by such a shakti, which was an illusive form (mayavi roop) and after Brahma Baba left his body the power of the Yagya came into the hands of such brothers, who are going to become Narayans pertaining to other religions, but meanwhile the Suryavanshis who left their bodies in the beginning of the Yagya, who are called a lamp of diamonds (heeron kee shama). There are 9 kinds of gems; those 9 kinds of gems can be tallied with the 9 religions. Those Suryavanshis of the beginning, enter the Yagya after Brahma left his body and as soon as Brahma's age, the age of the First Brahma (Aadi Brahma) crosses 100 years, Brahma's period in the abode of death (mrityulok) ends and that soul enters into the abode of immortality (amarlok). It does not enter wth the body. It enters at the intellectual level (bauddhik star). It gets transformed from the intellectual level to the pure (satwic) stage.
The clarification is received in the mature (paripakwa) stage that - the versions (Vani) that has been narrated through Brahma, the vedvani that emerged from the mouth of Brahma; although the true meaning of those versions was not understood even by Brahma because Brahma has been described to possess a baby-like intellect. When Brahma himself did not know, then how can his supportive power (sahyogini shakti) come to know?....So that soul of the beginning of the Yagya, who was intellectual (bauddhik), intellectualist (buddhivaadi), gets the food for the intellect. The Supreme Soul, who narrated the vedvani through Brahma, the same Supreme Soul clarifies the meaning of that Vedvani also through the second personality. The meaning becomes clear but who understands it? Who would understand first? The same Suryavanshi children, who had got separated in the beginning of the Yagya, take rebirth and enter the Yagya numberwise as per their efforts and catch that Vani, which is later called the Advance Party. This way the Rudra Gyan Yagya starts.
In a way the foundation was laid in the beginning of the Yagya also, but it was for the name sake, for the sake of laying the seed that Dada Lekhraj would become the soul of Krishna. He has to get revealed as ‘Brahma becomes Vishnu’ and this world is going to be destroyed. The new world is going to arrive; the old world is going to depart. Now this Iron Age is going to end. The Golden Age is going to arrive. This foundation was laid in the seed. But the knowledg of the seed can be present in the seed alone. This is not a gross seed. The one, who was the seed, got separated in the beginning of the Yagya itself. When the same seed comes into the Yagya again, then first of all, the versions that emerged from the mouth of Brahma, the expanse of that seed is contained in his intellect. That is why it has been said – truth is one. When God is one, the Son of God is also said to be one.
That Supreme Soul Father reveals the entire clarification of those Murlis through the soul of Ram. In front of whom? In front of those children, who were in the beginning of the Yagya also or had departed after a struggle (sangharsh) at the beginning of the Yagya also. The crowd (hujoom) was big. They could not face the false people. Why could not they face them? It is because there was not much knowledge in the beginning of the Yagya. And now? Now the knowledge has expanded so much that if you make the entire jungle (woods) as pens (kalam) and if you make the entire ocean as ink (syaahi), even then this knowledge is not going to finish. Such is the expanse (vistaar) of the knowledge. Well, there is a difference of day and night (i.e. a world of difference) between the limited knowledge of the books written by the human beings and the Godly knowledge. There is a difference of day and night. Those scholars & teachers (vidwaan-aachaarya) give replies to any question after consulting books and what about the children of God? The ones, in whose intellect this Godly knowledge is fitted, need not consult any book. The answer to every thing is available immediately ...(to be continued)
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Note: This is only a draft of the extracts of above-mentioned VCD for favour of information. Only when the translation of the entire Murli contained in this VCD is released, that may be considered as the final version. The words in italics are Hindi words.
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Extracts of ShivBaba’s Murli [via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit ] – as narrated to the PBKs
VCD No.585, Audio Cassette No.1071, dated 31.12.06, Adhyatmik Krishi Farm,
Clarification of Murli dated 25.9.98
Ref. No.VCD-585-Part-III-Eng.
... So this knowledge, the truth of this knowledge, the truth of many births of the soul, the truth of many births narrated by God cannot enter into the intellect of a human being, but those who became Brahmins, i.e. the children of Brahma and became the hundred percent pakka Brahmins, mouthbornprogeny, not the Brahmins who get sustained in the lap. Those who listened to knowledge emerging from the mouth, those who convert (i.e. transform) their own life and others' lives on the basis of that knowledge, nobody can face those Brahmins, but what happens? Three kinds of worlds get ready. One is the world consisting of five hundred, seven hundred crores and the religious preceptors (dharma gurus) and politicians of that world are already in the eyes of the entire world, but the world that was created by Dada Lekhraj Brahma in 33 years, that base-like world (aadhaarmoort duniya) is not any less. That foundation is also very strong, but because they came under the influence of the heretics (vidharmis), that is why they remained deprived of the Godly knowledge. Their intellect got influenced by the foreigners.
For example, in the lokik households in today's world when the mothers get influenced by their children, the Father keeps himself away from it. Because of attachment (moh), whatever the children explain, whatever they put in her intellect gets fitted into her intellect. Similarly, in this Yagya, the foreign souls which had entered, took the (reins of) power of the Yagya in their hands after the departure of Mama-Baba and the strong followers of Brahma-like souls, who were unshakeable on the basis of sentiments (bhaavnaa), are present here and there, somewhere or the other in the form of vijaymala (rosary of victory) even today. When the time comes, they would emerge. They possess the power of purity. Just as Brahma and Saraswati possessed the power of purity, similarly they are pakka Brahmaachaari (firm followers of Brahma), but the knowledge is not contained in their intellect.
From one angle, just as there are virgins (kumaris) in a family, who follow the mother and there are boys (kumars) who follow the Father. Similar thing happened in this world of Brahmins also. The souls, which possess the nature and sanskars of virgins and the firm true sentimental (pakki sachhi bhaavnaavaadi) souls, who are Brahmaachaari, i.e. followers of Brahma, who are Brahmins, those who imbibe purity, whether they are in male costume or in the female costume, but are tolerating in the Yagya even today. One can find sacrificing nature (tyaag) in them. They do not desire power (satta). They do not desire respect & position (maan-martabaa). They are concerned with Godly service and the success that they display (i.e. achieve) in service cannot be displayed by those who hold the reins of power. Although they may collect lakhs and crores of amounts and waste it in organizing large programmes but they cannot display that much result. What kind of a result? The results of making the heirs emerge.
The souls of heir quality, the true Brahmaachaari children in the Yagya have been emerging since the beginning. They have not received the essence (tant) of knowledge yet and even if they have received it, they are bound in the bondages of tradition (paramparaa). What? Our Brahmin family should not get defamed. We would not allow the defamation (badnaami) of our family, our moon dynasty (chandravansh), but it does not strike their intellect that - those souls, who devour souls like Brahma & Saraswati, when they would not leave them also, then will they leave them (i.e. the followers of Brahma)? That is why it has been said in the Murli - such time would also come in the end that when they get angry they would remove the clothes, make them naked and throw them out. It would not strike their intellect that - what kind of good service they (i.e. the souls which are thrown out) have done. It has to happen.
The flame of destruction (vinaash-jwala) emerged from the Rudra Yagya Kund. When did it emerge? It emerges when the true Brahmaachaaris (followers of Brahma) are insulted, when they get the push (dhakka). When they are not left with any other support (sahara) in the world, then that Rudra, not Shiv, but Rudra. What is the difference between Shiv and Rudra? Who is Rudra and who is Shiv? Shiv means benefactor (kalyaankaari). Rudra means the one who assumes a fierceful form (raudra roop). The one, who is not going to stop even if he has to kill the entire world. The one who is truth, is also pure. The purity is truth also ...(to be continued)
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Note: This is only a draft of the extracts of above-mentioned VCD for favour of information. Only when the translation of the entire Murli contained in this VCD is released, that may be considered as the final version. The words in italics are Hindi words.
VCD No.585, Audio Cassette No.1071, dated 31.12.06, Adhyatmik Krishi Farm,
Clarification of Murli dated 25.9.98
Ref. No.VCD-585-Part-III-Eng.
... So this knowledge, the truth of this knowledge, the truth of many births of the soul, the truth of many births narrated by God cannot enter into the intellect of a human being, but those who became Brahmins, i.e. the children of Brahma and became the hundred percent pakka Brahmins, mouthbornprogeny, not the Brahmins who get sustained in the lap. Those who listened to knowledge emerging from the mouth, those who convert (i.e. transform) their own life and others' lives on the basis of that knowledge, nobody can face those Brahmins, but what happens? Three kinds of worlds get ready. One is the world consisting of five hundred, seven hundred crores and the religious preceptors (dharma gurus) and politicians of that world are already in the eyes of the entire world, but the world that was created by Dada Lekhraj Brahma in 33 years, that base-like world (aadhaarmoort duniya) is not any less. That foundation is also very strong, but because they came under the influence of the heretics (vidharmis), that is why they remained deprived of the Godly knowledge. Their intellect got influenced by the foreigners.
For example, in the lokik households in today's world when the mothers get influenced by their children, the Father keeps himself away from it. Because of attachment (moh), whatever the children explain, whatever they put in her intellect gets fitted into her intellect. Similarly, in this Yagya, the foreign souls which had entered, took the (reins of) power of the Yagya in their hands after the departure of Mama-Baba and the strong followers of Brahma-like souls, who were unshakeable on the basis of sentiments (bhaavnaa), are present here and there, somewhere or the other in the form of vijaymala (rosary of victory) even today. When the time comes, they would emerge. They possess the power of purity. Just as Brahma and Saraswati possessed the power of purity, similarly they are pakka Brahmaachaari (firm followers of Brahma), but the knowledge is not contained in their intellect.
From one angle, just as there are virgins (kumaris) in a family, who follow the mother and there are boys (kumars) who follow the Father. Similar thing happened in this world of Brahmins also. The souls, which possess the nature and sanskars of virgins and the firm true sentimental (pakki sachhi bhaavnaavaadi) souls, who are Brahmaachaari, i.e. followers of Brahma, who are Brahmins, those who imbibe purity, whether they are in male costume or in the female costume, but are tolerating in the Yagya even today. One can find sacrificing nature (tyaag) in them. They do not desire power (satta). They do not desire respect & position (maan-martabaa). They are concerned with Godly service and the success that they display (i.e. achieve) in service cannot be displayed by those who hold the reins of power. Although they may collect lakhs and crores of amounts and waste it in organizing large programmes but they cannot display that much result. What kind of a result? The results of making the heirs emerge.
The souls of heir quality, the true Brahmaachaari children in the Yagya have been emerging since the beginning. They have not received the essence (tant) of knowledge yet and even if they have received it, they are bound in the bondages of tradition (paramparaa). What? Our Brahmin family should not get defamed. We would not allow the defamation (badnaami) of our family, our moon dynasty (chandravansh), but it does not strike their intellect that - those souls, who devour souls like Brahma & Saraswati, when they would not leave them also, then will they leave them (i.e. the followers of Brahma)? That is why it has been said in the Murli - such time would also come in the end that when they get angry they would remove the clothes, make them naked and throw them out. It would not strike their intellect that - what kind of good service they (i.e. the souls which are thrown out) have done. It has to happen.
The flame of destruction (vinaash-jwala) emerged from the Rudra Yagya Kund. When did it emerge? It emerges when the true Brahmaachaaris (followers of Brahma) are insulted, when they get the push (dhakka). When they are not left with any other support (sahara) in the world, then that Rudra, not Shiv, but Rudra. What is the difference between Shiv and Rudra? Who is Rudra and who is Shiv? Shiv means benefactor (kalyaankaari). Rudra means the one who assumes a fierceful form (raudra roop). The one, who is not going to stop even if he has to kill the entire world. The one who is truth, is also pure. The purity is truth also ...(to be continued)
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Note: This is only a draft of the extracts of above-mentioned VCD for favour of information. Only when the translation of the entire Murli contained in this VCD is released, that may be considered as the final version. The words in italics are Hindi words.
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Extracts of ShivBaba’s Murli [via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit ] – as narrated to the PBKs
VCD No.585, Audio Cassette No.1071, dated 31.12.06, Adhyatmik Krishi Farm,
Clarification of Murli dated 25.9.98
Ref. No.VCD-585-Part-IV-Eng.
... There are two dynasties that lay the foundation of the new world. The Sun Dynasty (Sooryavansh) and the Moon Dynasty (Chandravansh). The Sun confronts and the Moon tolerates because the Moon is also a part of the Earth. It is a satellite (upgrah). Just as Mother Earth is tolerant (sahansheel), similarly that part (jigar ka tukdaa, i.e. a dear one) of Mother Earth, is also very tolerant. That tolerance represents Mother India. It has been said - "Bharat mata Shivshakti avataar, ant ka yahee naara hai." (The slogan of the last period would be 'Mother India Shivshakti incarnation') Other countries and the residents of other countries or persons belonging to other religions are unable to tolerate to as much extent as India tolerates. People of India tolerate. It is the same Pakistan in the neighbourhood and it is the same India (Hindustaan). Where does the military rule exist? (Everyone said - In Pakistan) And in spite of tolerating so much, there are so many languages, there are so many disputes on the basis of languages, there are so many states, there are so many disputes on the basis of regionalism (raajyavaad), there are so many castes (jaatiyaan). Among the Muslims, there are only Muslims. (If someone is asked-) To which religion do you belong? Muslim. And what about the Hindus? There are many castes and on the basis of casteism (jaativaad) there are so many parties. The fire is smouldering within. Despite that democracy has been going on since such a long period here; the Militar Rule happened for namesake for a short period during the times of Indira Gandhi. That too, an emergeny was imposed. Marshall law was not imposed. Even now people of India are tolerating.
When does this shooting take place? The same seed-like souls, which become the beads of the rosary of victory (vijaymala), are still tolerating. That is why it has been said in the Avyakt Vani that 'Now there is no other way; welcome (or summon) the vijaymala.' Those souls would become capable (samarth) which are now lying helpless (asamarth) in Ravan's jail. They possess power, the power of purity. There is lack of knowledge. They lack the sight of knowledge (agyaan kay andhey), but they possess the power of purity. Those who have knowledge are devoid of the legs of purity (impurity kay langdey). They are numberwise. Nobody can say that - we have gained victory over sex-lust and those souls of vijaymala, are the ones that imbibe purity birth by birth. For example the queens of India. They must have committed Jauhar (a medieval Rajput custom wherein the women performed self-immolation to save their honour), not once but hundreds of times. To safeguard what? For safeguarding their purity. For them, imbibing purity is not a big issue; and it is not a big issue for the beads of the Rudramala to imbibe knowledge. They inculcate Godly knowledge easily, i.e. accept it. There is no inculcation. Inculcation can be said to take place when they acquire the power of purity. If there is knowledge and if the purity is numberwise, then there is no use of knowledge. There should be knowledge also and along with knowledge there should be purity also; that too not a purity of monks (Sanyasis). The purity should be lotus-like while living in the sludge (keechar) of household.
Souls are numberwise in the vijaymala as well as the Rudramala. Well, in the Rudramala also only 'one' would be 100 percent and in the vijaymala also only 'one' would imbibe 100 percent purity. There would be only 'one' to imbibe knowledge completely, 100 percent. Well, one swallow does not make a summer (akela chanaa bhaar nahee fode saktaa, i.e. a single corn cannot become a popcorn in the frypan). That is why it has been said that 8 more are required, (no) 7 (more are required), who do not suffer the punishments of Dharmaraj. They should also become souls that imbibe purity of such superior grade that they should achieve a stage equal to the Father. So the unity that would be formed through that purity; that unity lays a strong foundation of the gathering of new world. That is why it has been said - even if one powerful gathering gets ready, it would attract other gatherings and in the end the gathering of rosary of 108 would get revealed and when this rosary-like gathering gets revealed, the seed-like souls of every religion and the special souls of the vijaymala drawn from every religion, when the sanskars (yuti) of both kind of souls matches, when the couple-like beads (yugal mankey) get revealed, then no person belonging to any religious dynasty (dharmavansh), no dharmasattaadheesh (those holding seats of power in religion) or raajyasattaadheesh (those holding seats of power in politics) of the world would be able to face (or confront) the unity formed through that purity.
What is happening now? Now the base-like souls (aadhaarmoort), belonging to other religions, who are sitting on the roots, are mixing with the worldly people, with the worldly religious gurus, with the people possessing the worldly power and are uniting with them. What? The base-like souls of other religions among the BKs are shaking hands with the dharmasattaadheesh and they are also shaking hands with the raajyasattaadheesh and uniting with them and the new gathering (nayaa sangathan) of the seed-like souls that is getting ready, even in that the souls covered with the peels of other religions, because of the presence of impurity in them, cannot mix with each other and unite. Which army is it? It is an army of monkeys. There is not one kind of monkeys. There are a variety of monkeys. They do not give their true potamail (life story) to hide their own weakness (kamjori), to hide the weakness of impurity. What do they do? They would mix (i.e. shake hands) with those base-like souls and unite with them. With which base-like souls? With those base-like souls who are mixing with the worldly religious gurus, the dharmasattaadheesh, and the rajyasattadheesh. They are adopting all the traditions of the path of worship. So 90 percent section of the seed-like souls is under the influence of other religions; they would mix with the base-like souls and the base-like souls have already mixed or are mixing with the people of the world, with the dharmasattaadheesh, with the raajyasattaadheesh ... (to be continued)
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Note: This is only a draft of the extracts of above-mentioned VCD for favour of information. Only when the translation of the entire Murli contained in this VCD is released, that may be considered as the final version. The words in italics are Hindi words.
VCD No.585, Audio Cassette No.1071, dated 31.12.06, Adhyatmik Krishi Farm,
Clarification of Murli dated 25.9.98
Ref. No.VCD-585-Part-IV-Eng.
... There are two dynasties that lay the foundation of the new world. The Sun Dynasty (Sooryavansh) and the Moon Dynasty (Chandravansh). The Sun confronts and the Moon tolerates because the Moon is also a part of the Earth. It is a satellite (upgrah). Just as Mother Earth is tolerant (sahansheel), similarly that part (jigar ka tukdaa, i.e. a dear one) of Mother Earth, is also very tolerant. That tolerance represents Mother India. It has been said - "Bharat mata Shivshakti avataar, ant ka yahee naara hai." (The slogan of the last period would be 'Mother India Shivshakti incarnation') Other countries and the residents of other countries or persons belonging to other religions are unable to tolerate to as much extent as India tolerates. People of India tolerate. It is the same Pakistan in the neighbourhood and it is the same India (Hindustaan). Where does the military rule exist? (Everyone said - In Pakistan) And in spite of tolerating so much, there are so many languages, there are so many disputes on the basis of languages, there are so many states, there are so many disputes on the basis of regionalism (raajyavaad), there are so many castes (jaatiyaan). Among the Muslims, there are only Muslims. (If someone is asked-) To which religion do you belong? Muslim. And what about the Hindus? There are many castes and on the basis of casteism (jaativaad) there are so many parties. The fire is smouldering within. Despite that democracy has been going on since such a long period here; the Militar Rule happened for namesake for a short period during the times of Indira Gandhi. That too, an emergeny was imposed. Marshall law was not imposed. Even now people of India are tolerating.
When does this shooting take place? The same seed-like souls, which become the beads of the rosary of victory (vijaymala), are still tolerating. That is why it has been said in the Avyakt Vani that 'Now there is no other way; welcome (or summon) the vijaymala.' Those souls would become capable (samarth) which are now lying helpless (asamarth) in Ravan's jail. They possess power, the power of purity. There is lack of knowledge. They lack the sight of knowledge (agyaan kay andhey), but they possess the power of purity. Those who have knowledge are devoid of the legs of purity (impurity kay langdey). They are numberwise. Nobody can say that - we have gained victory over sex-lust and those souls of vijaymala, are the ones that imbibe purity birth by birth. For example the queens of India. They must have committed Jauhar (a medieval Rajput custom wherein the women performed self-immolation to save their honour), not once but hundreds of times. To safeguard what? For safeguarding their purity. For them, imbibing purity is not a big issue; and it is not a big issue for the beads of the Rudramala to imbibe knowledge. They inculcate Godly knowledge easily, i.e. accept it. There is no inculcation. Inculcation can be said to take place when they acquire the power of purity. If there is knowledge and if the purity is numberwise, then there is no use of knowledge. There should be knowledge also and along with knowledge there should be purity also; that too not a purity of monks (Sanyasis). The purity should be lotus-like while living in the sludge (keechar) of household.
Souls are numberwise in the vijaymala as well as the Rudramala. Well, in the Rudramala also only 'one' would be 100 percent and in the vijaymala also only 'one' would imbibe 100 percent purity. There would be only 'one' to imbibe knowledge completely, 100 percent. Well, one swallow does not make a summer (akela chanaa bhaar nahee fode saktaa, i.e. a single corn cannot become a popcorn in the frypan). That is why it has been said that 8 more are required, (no) 7 (more are required), who do not suffer the punishments of Dharmaraj. They should also become souls that imbibe purity of such superior grade that they should achieve a stage equal to the Father. So the unity that would be formed through that purity; that unity lays a strong foundation of the gathering of new world. That is why it has been said - even if one powerful gathering gets ready, it would attract other gatherings and in the end the gathering of rosary of 108 would get revealed and when this rosary-like gathering gets revealed, the seed-like souls of every religion and the special souls of the vijaymala drawn from every religion, when the sanskars (yuti) of both kind of souls matches, when the couple-like beads (yugal mankey) get revealed, then no person belonging to any religious dynasty (dharmavansh), no dharmasattaadheesh (those holding seats of power in religion) or raajyasattaadheesh (those holding seats of power in politics) of the world would be able to face (or confront) the unity formed through that purity.
What is happening now? Now the base-like souls (aadhaarmoort), belonging to other religions, who are sitting on the roots, are mixing with the worldly people, with the worldly religious gurus, with the people possessing the worldly power and are uniting with them. What? The base-like souls of other religions among the BKs are shaking hands with the dharmasattaadheesh and they are also shaking hands with the raajyasattaadheesh and uniting with them and the new gathering (nayaa sangathan) of the seed-like souls that is getting ready, even in that the souls covered with the peels of other religions, because of the presence of impurity in them, cannot mix with each other and unite. Which army is it? It is an army of monkeys. There is not one kind of monkeys. There are a variety of monkeys. They do not give their true potamail (life story) to hide their own weakness (kamjori), to hide the weakness of impurity. What do they do? They would mix (i.e. shake hands) with those base-like souls and unite with them. With which base-like souls? With those base-like souls who are mixing with the worldly religious gurus, the dharmasattaadheesh, and the rajyasattadheesh. They are adopting all the traditions of the path of worship. So 90 percent section of the seed-like souls is under the influence of other religions; they would mix with the base-like souls and the base-like souls have already mixed or are mixing with the people of the world, with the dharmasattaadheesh, with the raajyasattaadheesh ... (to be continued)
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Note: This is only a draft of the extracts of above-mentioned VCD for favour of information. Only when the translation of the entire Murli contained in this VCD is released, that may be considered as the final version. The words in italics are Hindi words.
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Extracts of ShivBaba’s Murli [via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit ] – as narrated to the PBKs
VCD No.585, Audio Cassette No.1071, dated 31.12.06, Adhyatmik Krishi Farm,
Clarification of Murli dated 25.9.98
Ref. No.VCD-585-Part-V-Eng.
... Now, what is the percentage of the true ones left? Ten percent true ones would survive. Those 10 percent true ones who would survive and they too have received a mahamantra. What? "Physical power would cause destruction and the power of Yoga would cause establishment." Call it the power of Yoga or the power of love or the power of purity. Then how would the revolution come about? These are true Pandavas; they would not fight. On the other hand, the seed-like souls, who have received the advance knowledge, would distribute that advance knowledge there by making mixturity (in the knowledge) on the basis of their intellect, to hide their weakness. So where would the poison spread and who would remain free from poison (nirvish)? The poison would keep spreading among those who are included in the 90 percent. A flood of ignorance would occur in the form of knowledge. For example, water is a useful thing. When water is available, the (crop) yield (fasal) is good. The fields, gardens, plantations become green. If the same water becomes surplus and if the mud of body consciousness mixes in it; for example floods occur, don't they? Then what gets mixed in the water? The mud of body consciousness gets mixed in it. So that flood would occur in (those included in) the 90 percent. Flood of what? The flood of ignorance mixed with the mud of body consciousness would occur. In that flood, those 90 percent would drown and die on the basis of impurity amongst themselves. 10 percent would survive. Among them also there are numberwise. They are not similar. All are not diamonds. Some are rubies (maanik), some are pearls (moti), some are emeralds (panna), some are topaz (pukhraj).
So what is the total population of the survivors? Four and a half lakhs. Everyone else would die in the revolution. Such a big revolution would take place. That is why it has been said the flame of destruction emerged from the Rudra Gyan Yagya Kund and engulfed the entire world. Why would such a big dispute arise? Why would so much bloodshed (khoon-kharaabaa) take place in the world? It is because all these temples, mosques, gurudwaras, churches would start breaking (i.e.disintegrating). All these are being run on the basis of blindfaith (andhshraddha). They are not functioning on the basis of devotion and faith. The Gurus who run them, are spreading blindfaith. That blindfaith would get destroyed, the ignorance would get destroyed. All the temples, mosques, churches, gurudwaras would disintegrate and only one big temple would survive in the world, where the eyes of the entire world would remain focussed.
One may call it heaven; one may call it Jannat. Different names have been given in different religions. Hindus call it Vaikunth. Even that has two forms. One is a treasure house of peace (shaanti ka punj) and one is a treasure house of prosperity (sach ka aagaar). Sukhdhaam and shaantidhaam. Those who believe in the abode of prosperity are very few and those who believe in the abode of peace would emerge in large numbers. They would desire only peace. They would not desire prosperity. For example, what do the Sanyasis (monks) say? The pleasure of heaven is like the faeces of a crow (kaagvishta). It does not fit into their intellect at all. What? (Someone said - pleasure of heaven...) No, that - deities experience pleasure while living together. They (i.e. monks) cannot accept this. Had they accepted this, they would have experienced pleasure while living in the household itself. All these are Sanyasis, excluding the Sun Dynasty and the Moon Dynasty. Islamic people, Buddists, Christians, all are sanyasis (renouncers, i.e. monks). Sanyas (renouncement) spread in Sikhism also. The matter of purity, which the Supreme Soul Father comes and teaches that - the husband and wife should set an example of celibacy while living together. The Sikhs have followed only to the extent that 'ek naari sadaa brahmachaari' (i.e. maintaining unadulterous relationship with one wife is as good as remaining celibate). As regards renouncing the woman on the basis of the unrighteous organs, this matter does not fit into their intellect soon. It would fit into their intellect at last because even then it is a religion of the path of household (pravrittimarg). They have been the people who sustain households. So whether they are Buddhists, whether they are Sanyasis; Sanyasis are as it is sanyasis; whether it is Sikhism - all are Sanyasis. They are sanyasis in limited sense.
The Father comes and teaches us such unlimited renouncement that - the entire world would be burning, there would be explosions (visfoat), but it is not going to affect us. That is why it has been said - it has been written for the Rudra Gyan Yagya that - the flame of destruction emerged from it. Those people create Yagya for peace. If drought begins, plague breaks out; they organize Yagya, the material Yagya. Where does the shooting for this take place? This shooting takes place among the base-like souls (aadhaarmoort) in the world of Brahmins - they collect contributions (chanda), organize Yagya, material Yagya. What for? To bring peace. So they organize Yagya for peace and your Yagya is a true Yagya. Those Brahmins have many prosperous persons (Seth; as patrons). What? If they organize a mega programme at Calcutta, there would be a different Seth. And what about you? You have only one Seth. He is the Father. He is Rudra. What is the name of your Seth? The one who creates the Rudra Gyan Yagya.
In the beginning of the Yagya also the fierceful form (raudra roop) was assumed. What? When a fierceful form was assumed (by the Father), Brahma Baba went away to Karachi and sat in his bunglow. He had gone alone. Later on, when India and Pakistan were formed due to partition and when the virgins and mothers had come into bondages (bandish) due to the disputes; Court cases had emerged, hadn’t they? So those who came under bondages got the freedom. When? At the time of partition of India and Pakistan, when bloodshed took place. They got the freedom and they all went and gathered in Karachi. So in the beginning of the Yagya also the blood of thoughts had been shed in the world of Brahmins. That was just a beginning. What? That was not the establishment of a true heaven. What kind of a heaven was established? A model was created. A replica of heaven was created. (Someone said – a blueprint was prepared) A blueprint was prepared; it was not even a blue print because the Islamic people cannot prepare the blue print of the true heaven. Those Islamic people, Buddhists, Christians, cannot prepare the blue print of the true heaven. Those who prepare the blue print of the true heaven would be Suryavanshis and Chandravanshis only, who would lay the foundation of the new world. They would sit and rule over that world and the remaining seed-like souls, those who are covered by the peels of other religions; but they would live as servants and maid servants. They cannot live as the controllers.
Your Father is Rudra. Call him Father Rudra, call him Shiv, call him Somnath. What? Who is called Som? ‘Som’ means ‘chandrama’, i.e. the Moon. What does ‘nath’ mean? Master of the Moon also. So this is a Rudra Gyaan Yagya. He, your Seth has created this Gyan Yagya, in which you are sitting. They are not sitting. You are sitting. That Yagya runs for two-four days. It may run for a month or two and this Yagya would continue to run till the end, until the entire world gets sacrificed in it. This Rudra Yagya of yours is very big. Such a big Rudra Yagya and there is no other Yagya in which so many persons participate. It takes time. What? They organize Yagya; they may organize exhibitions, they may organize conferences, they may organize big fairs, they may organize mega programmes, at the most for a month or two and what about this? Theirs is a material Yagya and yours is a Gyan Yagya. They beg and collect funds (chanda) and you organize the Rudra gyaan Yagya with your own body, mind and wealth. There is no need to seek any fund; there is no need to seek any alms from anyone. Om Shanti. (Concluded)
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Note: This is only a draft of the extracts of above-mentioned VCD for favour of information. Only when the translation of the entire Murli contained in this VCD is released, that may be considered as the final version. The words in italics are Hindi words.
VCD No.585, Audio Cassette No.1071, dated 31.12.06, Adhyatmik Krishi Farm,
Clarification of Murli dated 25.9.98
Ref. No.VCD-585-Part-V-Eng.
... Now, what is the percentage of the true ones left? Ten percent true ones would survive. Those 10 percent true ones who would survive and they too have received a mahamantra. What? "Physical power would cause destruction and the power of Yoga would cause establishment." Call it the power of Yoga or the power of love or the power of purity. Then how would the revolution come about? These are true Pandavas; they would not fight. On the other hand, the seed-like souls, who have received the advance knowledge, would distribute that advance knowledge there by making mixturity (in the knowledge) on the basis of their intellect, to hide their weakness. So where would the poison spread and who would remain free from poison (nirvish)? The poison would keep spreading among those who are included in the 90 percent. A flood of ignorance would occur in the form of knowledge. For example, water is a useful thing. When water is available, the (crop) yield (fasal) is good. The fields, gardens, plantations become green. If the same water becomes surplus and if the mud of body consciousness mixes in it; for example floods occur, don't they? Then what gets mixed in the water? The mud of body consciousness gets mixed in it. So that flood would occur in (those included in) the 90 percent. Flood of what? The flood of ignorance mixed with the mud of body consciousness would occur. In that flood, those 90 percent would drown and die on the basis of impurity amongst themselves. 10 percent would survive. Among them also there are numberwise. They are not similar. All are not diamonds. Some are rubies (maanik), some are pearls (moti), some are emeralds (panna), some are topaz (pukhraj).
So what is the total population of the survivors? Four and a half lakhs. Everyone else would die in the revolution. Such a big revolution would take place. That is why it has been said the flame of destruction emerged from the Rudra Gyan Yagya Kund and engulfed the entire world. Why would such a big dispute arise? Why would so much bloodshed (khoon-kharaabaa) take place in the world? It is because all these temples, mosques, gurudwaras, churches would start breaking (i.e.disintegrating). All these are being run on the basis of blindfaith (andhshraddha). They are not functioning on the basis of devotion and faith. The Gurus who run them, are spreading blindfaith. That blindfaith would get destroyed, the ignorance would get destroyed. All the temples, mosques, churches, gurudwaras would disintegrate and only one big temple would survive in the world, where the eyes of the entire world would remain focussed.
One may call it heaven; one may call it Jannat. Different names have been given in different religions. Hindus call it Vaikunth. Even that has two forms. One is a treasure house of peace (shaanti ka punj) and one is a treasure house of prosperity (sach ka aagaar). Sukhdhaam and shaantidhaam. Those who believe in the abode of prosperity are very few and those who believe in the abode of peace would emerge in large numbers. They would desire only peace. They would not desire prosperity. For example, what do the Sanyasis (monks) say? The pleasure of heaven is like the faeces of a crow (kaagvishta). It does not fit into their intellect at all. What? (Someone said - pleasure of heaven...) No, that - deities experience pleasure while living together. They (i.e. monks) cannot accept this. Had they accepted this, they would have experienced pleasure while living in the household itself. All these are Sanyasis, excluding the Sun Dynasty and the Moon Dynasty. Islamic people, Buddists, Christians, all are sanyasis (renouncers, i.e. monks). Sanyas (renouncement) spread in Sikhism also. The matter of purity, which the Supreme Soul Father comes and teaches that - the husband and wife should set an example of celibacy while living together. The Sikhs have followed only to the extent that 'ek naari sadaa brahmachaari' (i.e. maintaining unadulterous relationship with one wife is as good as remaining celibate). As regards renouncing the woman on the basis of the unrighteous organs, this matter does not fit into their intellect soon. It would fit into their intellect at last because even then it is a religion of the path of household (pravrittimarg). They have been the people who sustain households. So whether they are Buddhists, whether they are Sanyasis; Sanyasis are as it is sanyasis; whether it is Sikhism - all are Sanyasis. They are sanyasis in limited sense.
The Father comes and teaches us such unlimited renouncement that - the entire world would be burning, there would be explosions (visfoat), but it is not going to affect us. That is why it has been said - it has been written for the Rudra Gyan Yagya that - the flame of destruction emerged from it. Those people create Yagya for peace. If drought begins, plague breaks out; they organize Yagya, the material Yagya. Where does the shooting for this take place? This shooting takes place among the base-like souls (aadhaarmoort) in the world of Brahmins - they collect contributions (chanda), organize Yagya, material Yagya. What for? To bring peace. So they organize Yagya for peace and your Yagya is a true Yagya. Those Brahmins have many prosperous persons (Seth; as patrons). What? If they organize a mega programme at Calcutta, there would be a different Seth. And what about you? You have only one Seth. He is the Father. He is Rudra. What is the name of your Seth? The one who creates the Rudra Gyan Yagya.
In the beginning of the Yagya also the fierceful form (raudra roop) was assumed. What? When a fierceful form was assumed (by the Father), Brahma Baba went away to Karachi and sat in his bunglow. He had gone alone. Later on, when India and Pakistan were formed due to partition and when the virgins and mothers had come into bondages (bandish) due to the disputes; Court cases had emerged, hadn’t they? So those who came under bondages got the freedom. When? At the time of partition of India and Pakistan, when bloodshed took place. They got the freedom and they all went and gathered in Karachi. So in the beginning of the Yagya also the blood of thoughts had been shed in the world of Brahmins. That was just a beginning. What? That was not the establishment of a true heaven. What kind of a heaven was established? A model was created. A replica of heaven was created. (Someone said – a blueprint was prepared) A blueprint was prepared; it was not even a blue print because the Islamic people cannot prepare the blue print of the true heaven. Those Islamic people, Buddhists, Christians, cannot prepare the blue print of the true heaven. Those who prepare the blue print of the true heaven would be Suryavanshis and Chandravanshis only, who would lay the foundation of the new world. They would sit and rule over that world and the remaining seed-like souls, those who are covered by the peels of other religions; but they would live as servants and maid servants. They cannot live as the controllers.
Your Father is Rudra. Call him Father Rudra, call him Shiv, call him Somnath. What? Who is called Som? ‘Som’ means ‘chandrama’, i.e. the Moon. What does ‘nath’ mean? Master of the Moon also. So this is a Rudra Gyaan Yagya. He, your Seth has created this Gyan Yagya, in which you are sitting. They are not sitting. You are sitting. That Yagya runs for two-four days. It may run for a month or two and this Yagya would continue to run till the end, until the entire world gets sacrificed in it. This Rudra Yagya of yours is very big. Such a big Rudra Yagya and there is no other Yagya in which so many persons participate. It takes time. What? They organize Yagya; they may organize exhibitions, they may organize conferences, they may organize big fairs, they may organize mega programmes, at the most for a month or two and what about this? Theirs is a material Yagya and yours is a Gyan Yagya. They beg and collect funds (chanda) and you organize the Rudra gyaan Yagya with your own body, mind and wealth. There is no need to seek any fund; there is no need to seek any alms from anyone. Om Shanti. (Concluded)
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Note: This is only a draft of the extracts of above-mentioned VCD for favour of information. Only when the translation of the entire Murli contained in this VCD is released, that may be considered as the final version. The words in italics are Hindi words.
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Extracts of ShivBaba’s Murli [via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit ] – as narrated to the PBKs
VCD No.581, Audio Cassette No.1067, dated 25.12.06, Calcutta,
Clarification of Murlis dated 23.6.67 and 24.6.67
Ref. No.VCD-581-Part-I-Eng.
The Vani being narrated was dated 23rd June, 1967. In the beginning of the middle portion of the second page, the matter being narrated was - the fun and entertainment (ramatgat khelpaal) keep going on to pass time. When one achieves Karmaateet stage, then all this would stop. When the Karmaateet stage is achieved then you can think - that's all. You would remember that - I, a soul, have completed 84 births and now I am going to my home. Then I would come and play a satopradhaan (pure) part in the satopradhaan world. Now this knowledge is contained in your intellect. There is no need for pictures etc. also in this. For e.g. when one reads the books related to Barristry, when one passes the Barristers' exam, once the practice has begun, then that is all. Whatever was studied in the past gets over. The result gets declared because one has achieved the fruits (praarabdha). You would also study and go and rule. Then there would not be any need for knowledge there.
It has fitted into your intellect what is now right or wrong in these pictures. This knowledge is not contained in the intellect of anyone else. The Father sits and explains that - who is this Lakshmi and Narayan? Nobody else can explain that who is this Lakshmi and Narayan and who is this Vishnu? What is Vishnu’s part? Who are the arms of Vishnu? The poor human beings get confused. They do not even understand anything. Just as they do not understand Vishnu, they do not understand Lakshmi-Narayan also. It is not contained in the intellect of the human beings as to who are the actors named Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar? It has fitted into your intellect that what is Shankar? Who is he? Brahma is here. To which year does this Vani pertain? (Someone said – 1967) Brahma is here, but where is Shankar? In the Vani dated 1967 it has been asked – where is Vishnu? This Brahma would become pure, leave the body, leave this impure body and this soul would depart. What would happen next? The soul would depart; where would it depart? To play its new role.
The children also know that – we would leave the dirty body of this dirty world and depart. We would go to our home. This Brahma does not go straight to his home after leaving the body. You become detached from this old world. Those who are unable to get detached from the old world, those who remain attached, would have to assume a subtle body. You are detached.
Here the karmic bondages (karma bandhan) cause sorrows. Karmabandhan of which place? The karmic bondages of this old Iron-Aged world cause sorrows and you are going to leave this karmic bondage. The karmic bondage of that place does not cause sorrows. There is no bondage of karma at all. Now the Father says – let us go to our home. There would not be any name or trace of sorrows there. First you were in your home. Then you came to the kingdom (raajdhaani). Now the Father has come once again to make you pure. When you become pure, then you would not be able to live in the impure world.
Now it is a kingdom of demons in this world. They keep eating such dirty food, etc. The Chinese people eat everything like snakes (naag-balaaen), scorpions (bichhu), locusts (tindan) etc. To whichever country one belongs, one influences people living nearby also. They feel that – the poison contained in these scorpions, locusts is gone. Then what is the harm in eating them? They behead the snakes. The Father says – everything is made up of five elements. They fry the things made of five elements in oil and eat it. Look at their intellect. When a war begins, then, in case of hunger, they even kill horses, etc. and eat them. Earlier they used to fry the human meat and eat it. There used to be yagyas involving human sacrifices (narmedh Yagya). They are called man-eaters (aadamkhor). Now in the path of worship people offer Bhog to devies also. They kill small children and sacrifice them. They cut and cook (meat) and offer to Kali at Calcutta. Then they distribute and eat it. It is called Mahaprasaad. Now there is so much to eat in this world. There are so many things in the ocean. They say that there are a lot of fishes. It is full of tortoises and fishes. But in your new world, the deities would not eat such things. Now look what is the condition of Bhakti. They sacrifice human beings.
The Father says – this is also fixed in the drama. The old world itself is certainly going to become new. When they become tamopradhaan (degraded) then such acts are performed. Now you know that we are becoming satopradhaan. Your intellect feels that - we are becoming satopradhaan. The world is becoming tamopradhan intellectually. In order to understand these matters, it is good even if there are no pictures. Otherwise human beings ask a lot of questions. Baba has explained to us the cycle of 84 births. We are going to become Chandravanshi, Suryavanshi, Vaishyavanshi....You know that how you have been experiencing downfall. We have taken so many births. All these things are to be kept in mind & intellect. Many human beings possessing a stone-like intellect (pattharbuddhi) do not understand even through the intellect. Their intellect has become stone-like to such an extent. The third page of the Vani dated 23rd June, 1967. The people would get even more confused by seing the pictures. For those who are clever (samajhdaar), do not need any picture. The Subtle Region shown in the pictures cannot be understood at all ... (to be continued)
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Note: This is only a draft of the extracts of above-mentioned VCD for favour of information. Only when the translation of the entire Murli contained in this VCD is released, that may be considered as the final version. The words in italics are Hindi words.
VCD No.581, Audio Cassette No.1067, dated 25.12.06, Calcutta,
Clarification of Murlis dated 23.6.67 and 24.6.67
Ref. No.VCD-581-Part-I-Eng.
The Vani being narrated was dated 23rd June, 1967. In the beginning of the middle portion of the second page, the matter being narrated was - the fun and entertainment (ramatgat khelpaal) keep going on to pass time. When one achieves Karmaateet stage, then all this would stop. When the Karmaateet stage is achieved then you can think - that's all. You would remember that - I, a soul, have completed 84 births and now I am going to my home. Then I would come and play a satopradhaan (pure) part in the satopradhaan world. Now this knowledge is contained in your intellect. There is no need for pictures etc. also in this. For e.g. when one reads the books related to Barristry, when one passes the Barristers' exam, once the practice has begun, then that is all. Whatever was studied in the past gets over. The result gets declared because one has achieved the fruits (praarabdha). You would also study and go and rule. Then there would not be any need for knowledge there.
It has fitted into your intellect what is now right or wrong in these pictures. This knowledge is not contained in the intellect of anyone else. The Father sits and explains that - who is this Lakshmi and Narayan? Nobody else can explain that who is this Lakshmi and Narayan and who is this Vishnu? What is Vishnu’s part? Who are the arms of Vishnu? The poor human beings get confused. They do not even understand anything. Just as they do not understand Vishnu, they do not understand Lakshmi-Narayan also. It is not contained in the intellect of the human beings as to who are the actors named Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar? It has fitted into your intellect that what is Shankar? Who is he? Brahma is here. To which year does this Vani pertain? (Someone said – 1967) Brahma is here, but where is Shankar? In the Vani dated 1967 it has been asked – where is Vishnu? This Brahma would become pure, leave the body, leave this impure body and this soul would depart. What would happen next? The soul would depart; where would it depart? To play its new role.
The children also know that – we would leave the dirty body of this dirty world and depart. We would go to our home. This Brahma does not go straight to his home after leaving the body. You become detached from this old world. Those who are unable to get detached from the old world, those who remain attached, would have to assume a subtle body. You are detached.
Here the karmic bondages (karma bandhan) cause sorrows. Karmabandhan of which place? The karmic bondages of this old Iron-Aged world cause sorrows and you are going to leave this karmic bondage. The karmic bondage of that place does not cause sorrows. There is no bondage of karma at all. Now the Father says – let us go to our home. There would not be any name or trace of sorrows there. First you were in your home. Then you came to the kingdom (raajdhaani). Now the Father has come once again to make you pure. When you become pure, then you would not be able to live in the impure world.
Now it is a kingdom of demons in this world. They keep eating such dirty food, etc. The Chinese people eat everything like snakes (naag-balaaen), scorpions (bichhu), locusts (tindan) etc. To whichever country one belongs, one influences people living nearby also. They feel that – the poison contained in these scorpions, locusts is gone. Then what is the harm in eating them? They behead the snakes. The Father says – everything is made up of five elements. They fry the things made of five elements in oil and eat it. Look at their intellect. When a war begins, then, in case of hunger, they even kill horses, etc. and eat them. Earlier they used to fry the human meat and eat it. There used to be yagyas involving human sacrifices (narmedh Yagya). They are called man-eaters (aadamkhor). Now in the path of worship people offer Bhog to devies also. They kill small children and sacrifice them. They cut and cook (meat) and offer to Kali at Calcutta. Then they distribute and eat it. It is called Mahaprasaad. Now there is so much to eat in this world. There are so many things in the ocean. They say that there are a lot of fishes. It is full of tortoises and fishes. But in your new world, the deities would not eat such things. Now look what is the condition of Bhakti. They sacrifice human beings.
The Father says – this is also fixed in the drama. The old world itself is certainly going to become new. When they become tamopradhaan (degraded) then such acts are performed. Now you know that we are becoming satopradhaan. Your intellect feels that - we are becoming satopradhaan. The world is becoming tamopradhan intellectually. In order to understand these matters, it is good even if there are no pictures. Otherwise human beings ask a lot of questions. Baba has explained to us the cycle of 84 births. We are going to become Chandravanshi, Suryavanshi, Vaishyavanshi....You know that how you have been experiencing downfall. We have taken so many births. All these things are to be kept in mind & intellect. Many human beings possessing a stone-like intellect (pattharbuddhi) do not understand even through the intellect. Their intellect has become stone-like to such an extent. The third page of the Vani dated 23rd June, 1967. The people would get even more confused by seing the pictures. For those who are clever (samajhdaar), do not need any picture. The Subtle Region shown in the pictures cannot be understood at all ... (to be continued)
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Note: This is only a draft of the extracts of above-mentioned VCD for favour of information. Only when the translation of the entire Murli contained in this VCD is released, that may be considered as the final version. The words in italics are Hindi words.
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Extracts of ShivBaba’s Murli [via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit ] – as narrated to the PBKs
VCD No.581, Audio Cassette No.1067, dated 25.12.06, Calcutta,
Clarification of Murlis dated 23.6.67 and 24.6.67
Ref. No.VCD-581-Part-II-Eng.
... You children visit the Subtle Region (sookshma vatan) in trance (dhyaan). Well, there is nothing there. You go into trance and have divine visions (deedaar) of the subtle wrold. There is neither Yoga (remembrance) nor knowledge there. Wastage of time, money and energy keeps taking place. Then why did this happen? Why was this fixed in the drama? It is because a foundation of Bhakti is laid in the entire world in the beginning. If knowledge is given to anyone directly, then nobody would be able to understand. That is why this fun and entertainment (khelpaal kee ramatgamat) of trance and divine visions is fixed. That foundation is also laid by those souls which cannot understand the knowledge strongly. They are the souls, which get influenced by other religion, or the souls, which get converted. This trance and divine vision is fixed for them because they do not take 84 births. They are unable to recognize God directly. It is not at all their part to recognize. Even if someone explains forcibly, they run away later on. They dupe even here and they would dupe there too. Where? They would get converted in the Copper and Iron Age. Then this trance and divine vision is a kind of ritual & tradition (rasam-rivaaz) of the path of worship (Bhaktimarg).
It is explained that - how souls are recalled. Then they cry. The soul which comes, also cries. They repent that we did not listen to Baba's words. But all these are matters of chit chat. One should not waste time in it. Baba keeps explaining - children, now it is not the occasion to waste time. One must make efforts to show the path to many. Now become mahaadaani (super philanthrophist). Remember the Father; then your sins would get destroyed. Explain to anyone who comes in front of you. Fix the cycle of 84 births in their intellect also. The entire cycle as to how the history and geography of the world repeats is contained in your intellect in a nutshell.
You children must feel very joyful that - we are allround actors (paartdhaari). The part of our souls is not cut/broken (khandit). Now you become free from this dirty world. Human beings feel that the heaven as well as hell is here itself. But it cannot be possible like that. Narak (hell) has been created by nar (man) and swarg (heaven) has been created by the one who always remains in a soul conscious stage (swa sthiti). Where there is heaven, there cannot be hell. There cannot be any trace of sorrow. And where there is hell, there nobody achieves a soul conscious stage. Everyone is sinful in the sinful world. Everyone is pure in the pure world. The intellect becomes concentrated (ekaagra). People feel that - those who possess a lot of wealth, have performed noble acts; that is why they enjoy pleasure. Arey! How did they acquire so much wealth? Now you also perform very noble acts. You perform such noble acts in this birth itself that you achieve pleasure for 21 births. They feel for one birth that we are now in heaven. Those who possess more wealth, feel themselves to be in heaven. The Father says - this is a temporary pleasure. Your pleasure is for 21 births, for which the Father says – show the path to everyone.
We would become healthy (nirogi) through the remembrance of the Father only. And those who become healthy numberwise, would also become the masters of the heaven. There is kingship in heaven. Remember that kingship also. There was kingship earlier too. Now it does not exist. All these are matters of Bhaarat only. Heaven and hell exists in Bhaarat only. Remaining are byplots. In the end everyone would depart. Then we would come in the new world. Well, is there any need for pictures to explain just this matter? What is Vishnu in the Subtle Region? There is no need for pictures. This Soul World (mool vatan), Subtle Region (sookshma vatan), etc. are just for the sake of explanation – these matters are to be fitted into the intellect of the children. You do not possess a child-like intellect. It has fitted into your intellect that – when we become constant in the original state, then it is like a Soul World for us in this world itself. If we become constant in the stage of subtle thinking, and churning, then this itself is a Subtle Region and when we get connected with the corporeal bodily organs, corporeal things of the corporeal world, corporeal persons, then this corporeal world itself is a gross world (sthool vatan). It is just explained – as such, there is nothing (like that).
Where is the need for this Shankar too? It is the people of the Bhaktimarg who have prepared the picture. Which one? Hm? The one with snakes (on his person). There is not such a person. So we have to prepare these pictures with corrections. What was prepared with corrections? It is a Vani dated 1967. Baba had got the picture of Trimurti prepared. What did he get prepared? What was the difference that was shown in contrast to the Bhaktimarg? Brahma was depicted with a bodily costume and Shankar has been shown to be detached from body consciousness. It means that dress has not been shown. So you prepare these correct pictures. Otherwise they would say – you are atheists (naastik). You do not believe in the deities also. They destroy the pictures also; they destroy the scriptures also. That is why we prepare these pictures with corrections. It is explained – establishment through Brahma. Establishment of what? Establishment of Brahmin religion through Brahma and destruction of the world of Shudras, destruction of the vicious world through Shankar. Actually, these things are matters for narration sake. These are matters for the sake of explanation. All this is fixed in the drama. Nobody does anything. The scientists (sciencedaan) keep preparing all these things through their intellect. Look, what kind of explosives (baarood) have they prepared? Although howevermuch anyone may say – do not prepare these bombs; the sounds (of appeal) may emerge from everywhere, but those who possess the piles (of bombs), would not put them in the ocean. If they put them in the ocean, then others would also not prepare it. But neither do they want to destroy it nor those who are preparing them stop doing so. When they continue to keep them, then others would also certainly produce ...(to be continued)
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Note: This is only a draft of the extracts of above-mentioned VCD for favour of information. Only when the translation of the entire Murli contained in this VCD is released, that may be considered as the final version. The words in italics are Hindi words.
VCD No.581, Audio Cassette No.1067, dated 25.12.06, Calcutta,
Clarification of Murlis dated 23.6.67 and 24.6.67
Ref. No.VCD-581-Part-II-Eng.
... You children visit the Subtle Region (sookshma vatan) in trance (dhyaan). Well, there is nothing there. You go into trance and have divine visions (deedaar) of the subtle wrold. There is neither Yoga (remembrance) nor knowledge there. Wastage of time, money and energy keeps taking place. Then why did this happen? Why was this fixed in the drama? It is because a foundation of Bhakti is laid in the entire world in the beginning. If knowledge is given to anyone directly, then nobody would be able to understand. That is why this fun and entertainment (khelpaal kee ramatgamat) of trance and divine visions is fixed. That foundation is also laid by those souls which cannot understand the knowledge strongly. They are the souls, which get influenced by other religion, or the souls, which get converted. This trance and divine vision is fixed for them because they do not take 84 births. They are unable to recognize God directly. It is not at all their part to recognize. Even if someone explains forcibly, they run away later on. They dupe even here and they would dupe there too. Where? They would get converted in the Copper and Iron Age. Then this trance and divine vision is a kind of ritual & tradition (rasam-rivaaz) of the path of worship (Bhaktimarg).
It is explained that - how souls are recalled. Then they cry. The soul which comes, also cries. They repent that we did not listen to Baba's words. But all these are matters of chit chat. One should not waste time in it. Baba keeps explaining - children, now it is not the occasion to waste time. One must make efforts to show the path to many. Now become mahaadaani (super philanthrophist). Remember the Father; then your sins would get destroyed. Explain to anyone who comes in front of you. Fix the cycle of 84 births in their intellect also. The entire cycle as to how the history and geography of the world repeats is contained in your intellect in a nutshell.
You children must feel very joyful that - we are allround actors (paartdhaari). The part of our souls is not cut/broken (khandit). Now you become free from this dirty world. Human beings feel that the heaven as well as hell is here itself. But it cannot be possible like that. Narak (hell) has been created by nar (man) and swarg (heaven) has been created by the one who always remains in a soul conscious stage (swa sthiti). Where there is heaven, there cannot be hell. There cannot be any trace of sorrow. And where there is hell, there nobody achieves a soul conscious stage. Everyone is sinful in the sinful world. Everyone is pure in the pure world. The intellect becomes concentrated (ekaagra). People feel that - those who possess a lot of wealth, have performed noble acts; that is why they enjoy pleasure. Arey! How did they acquire so much wealth? Now you also perform very noble acts. You perform such noble acts in this birth itself that you achieve pleasure for 21 births. They feel for one birth that we are now in heaven. Those who possess more wealth, feel themselves to be in heaven. The Father says - this is a temporary pleasure. Your pleasure is for 21 births, for which the Father says – show the path to everyone.
We would become healthy (nirogi) through the remembrance of the Father only. And those who become healthy numberwise, would also become the masters of the heaven. There is kingship in heaven. Remember that kingship also. There was kingship earlier too. Now it does not exist. All these are matters of Bhaarat only. Heaven and hell exists in Bhaarat only. Remaining are byplots. In the end everyone would depart. Then we would come in the new world. Well, is there any need for pictures to explain just this matter? What is Vishnu in the Subtle Region? There is no need for pictures. This Soul World (mool vatan), Subtle Region (sookshma vatan), etc. are just for the sake of explanation – these matters are to be fitted into the intellect of the children. You do not possess a child-like intellect. It has fitted into your intellect that – when we become constant in the original state, then it is like a Soul World for us in this world itself. If we become constant in the stage of subtle thinking, and churning, then this itself is a Subtle Region and when we get connected with the corporeal bodily organs, corporeal things of the corporeal world, corporeal persons, then this corporeal world itself is a gross world (sthool vatan). It is just explained – as such, there is nothing (like that).
Where is the need for this Shankar too? It is the people of the Bhaktimarg who have prepared the picture. Which one? Hm? The one with snakes (on his person). There is not such a person. So we have to prepare these pictures with corrections. What was prepared with corrections? It is a Vani dated 1967. Baba had got the picture of Trimurti prepared. What did he get prepared? What was the difference that was shown in contrast to the Bhaktimarg? Brahma was depicted with a bodily costume and Shankar has been shown to be detached from body consciousness. It means that dress has not been shown. So you prepare these correct pictures. Otherwise they would say – you are atheists (naastik). You do not believe in the deities also. They destroy the pictures also; they destroy the scriptures also. That is why we prepare these pictures with corrections. It is explained – establishment through Brahma. Establishment of what? Establishment of Brahmin religion through Brahma and destruction of the world of Shudras, destruction of the vicious world through Shankar. Actually, these things are matters for narration sake. These are matters for the sake of explanation. All this is fixed in the drama. Nobody does anything. The scientists (sciencedaan) keep preparing all these things through their intellect. Look, what kind of explosives (baarood) have they prepared? Although howevermuch anyone may say – do not prepare these bombs; the sounds (of appeal) may emerge from everywhere, but those who possess the piles (of bombs), would not put them in the ocean. If they put them in the ocean, then others would also not prepare it. But neither do they want to destroy it nor those who are preparing them stop doing so. When they continue to keep them, then others would also certainly produce ...(to be continued)
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Note: This is only a draft of the extracts of above-mentioned VCD for favour of information. Only when the translation of the entire Murli contained in this VCD is released, that may be considered as the final version. The words in italics are Hindi words.
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Extracts of ShivBaba’s Murli [via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit ] – as narrated to the PBKs
VCD No.581, Audio Cassette No.1067, dated 25.12.06, Calcutta,
Clarification of Murlis dated 23.6.67 and 24.6.67
Ref. No.VCD-581-Part-III-Eng.
... Now you children know that - this drama is made in such a way that the destruction of the world has to definitely take place. However strongly one may desire, however much one may try, these explosives (baarood) would continue to pile up. The wars also definitely break out. If the wars do not break out, then the destruction would also not take place, and there, in your new world, neither destruction takes place nor is there any trace of Bhakti. You rule over your own kingdom. There are no pictures, etc. there. The Father says - Children, now become benefactors of everyone. Become the benefactors of even those who prepare bombs. Become benefactors of even those, who explode bombs. Become benefactors of even those who start wars.
It is contained in your intellect that - somebody's wealth remains buried under soil; someone's wealth is usurped by the King. The wealth of those people would prove fruitful who spend it in the name of God (dhani). God (dhani) says - now spend in this task only. This is a spiritual hospital. Whoever opens this spiritual hospital, whoever takes care of the souls, whoever enables spiritual health, would certainly become healthy themselves. They are benefactors, are'nt they? You spend in the name of God only. You do not spend anything for yourself. You get the returns for that for 21 births. You know that - now this world is going to end. So why not use our wealth in the task beforehand? That is why keep spending in the name of God as far as possible. You know that our ShivBaba is dhani. Even in the path of worship one used to spend in the name of God. Now look, He has come directly. If you open big universities in the name of God, then the benefit (kalyaan) of many would take place.
You know that this path of worship does not end. When would it end? When would the path of knowledge be hailed (zindabaad)? When would this path of worship be 'down-down' (murdaabaad)? Hm? (Someone said - after some days) After some days. 'Some' refers to how many? While saying 'some, some' seventy years have passed. It has to end now, is it not? (Someone said - yes) If you spend you would certainly get in return. Continue to cause benefit of everyone in the name of God. You know that we would certainly get the inheritance of 21 births. It is explained so nicely. Then, those, who are fortunate, spend money. If they are not fortunate, then they hide it like a miser (soom).
The Father says - one has to definitely take care of one's household. It is not that you bring your household also and leave it to the responsibility of Baba. Baba teaches us to become independant (swadheen). He does not teach us to become subordinates (paraadheen). In the beginning Baba's part itself was such. Baba got highly intoxicated that Baba is giving us the kingship of the world. So he left everything. So many had to be sustained. But all this is subordination/dependance (adheenataa), is not it? When the Father comes he liberates us from subordination. Those who become subordinates (adheen) can never become Officers. Those who become subordinates keep seeking alms. Those who are free (swaadheen) remain in the intoxication that - to which clan do we belong? There is an intoxication (nashaa) in the intellect that we are Suryavanshi, is not it? OK, Om Shanti.
There is a small night class. Children, are you sitting in soul conscious stage or do you become body conscious? You know that – it is we Brahmins alone, who get the knowledge to become soul conscious, to leave body consciousness. You know that God teaches us this matter. You know the name of God also. Arey! If you know the name of God (Bhagwaan), then you must be aware of the name of the devil also (shaitaan). God Shiv teaches, doesn’t He? The name itself is Shiv. God lives in the Supreme Abode (Paramdhaam), the Abode of peace (Shaantidhaam). We souls are also residents of the abode of peace. You have come to know through the Father that now it is the last birth. After this nobody is going to be born in this old world. It has been written in Gita, the Gita of human beings also. What? We are residents of that Abode, where the light of Sun, Moon and the stars does not reach. “Yad gatwa na nivartantey...” It is the place from where a soul does not return to this old world, once it has reached that place.
Now we have completed 84 births. The most degraded 84th birth is now going to end. Now Baba is teaching us as a Teacher. He is our Father as well as a Teacher. It takes so many years in that study and the teachers also keep changing. Here you have only one teacher. You Brahmins know that the Father teaches this knowledge only once and in one birth only. There is one examination (imtihaan). What is the (question) paper of the examination? “Nashtomoha smritirlabdha” (becoming detached and being in remembrance). The same exam will be passed numberwise. They would get transformed from human beings to deities.
You know the aim and objective. The knowledge is also great. That knowledge causes so much income (aamdani). One earns income for one birth and here you get fruits (praarabdha) for many births. So this knowledge is greater, isn’t it? One has to become the master of the world. And one has to become here itself. One would not become master of the world in the Golden Age. While you have full faith that – God teaches and we would definitely go to God only. We would go and listen to His direct versions. We are not going to listen to the versions of other human beings. Such a great knowledge should fit into the intellect, isn’t it? The greater the knowledge, the greater should be your study. Otherwise what do they do? They develop doubts over the versions of the Father and start studying from the accomplices and companions. They start churning matters whichever way anyone has narrated. They start doubting the attainments (praapti) that are received from the Father ... (to be continued)
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Note: This is only a draft of the extracts of above-mentioned VCD for favour of information. Only when the translation of the entire Murli contained in this VCD is released, that may be considered as the final version. The words in italics are Hindi words.
VCD No.581, Audio Cassette No.1067, dated 25.12.06, Calcutta,
Clarification of Murlis dated 23.6.67 and 24.6.67
Ref. No.VCD-581-Part-III-Eng.
... Now you children know that - this drama is made in such a way that the destruction of the world has to definitely take place. However strongly one may desire, however much one may try, these explosives (baarood) would continue to pile up. The wars also definitely break out. If the wars do not break out, then the destruction would also not take place, and there, in your new world, neither destruction takes place nor is there any trace of Bhakti. You rule over your own kingdom. There are no pictures, etc. there. The Father says - Children, now become benefactors of everyone. Become the benefactors of even those who prepare bombs. Become benefactors of even those, who explode bombs. Become benefactors of even those who start wars.
It is contained in your intellect that - somebody's wealth remains buried under soil; someone's wealth is usurped by the King. The wealth of those people would prove fruitful who spend it in the name of God (dhani). God (dhani) says - now spend in this task only. This is a spiritual hospital. Whoever opens this spiritual hospital, whoever takes care of the souls, whoever enables spiritual health, would certainly become healthy themselves. They are benefactors, are'nt they? You spend in the name of God only. You do not spend anything for yourself. You get the returns for that for 21 births. You know that - now this world is going to end. So why not use our wealth in the task beforehand? That is why keep spending in the name of God as far as possible. You know that our ShivBaba is dhani. Even in the path of worship one used to spend in the name of God. Now look, He has come directly. If you open big universities in the name of God, then the benefit (kalyaan) of many would take place.
You know that this path of worship does not end. When would it end? When would the path of knowledge be hailed (zindabaad)? When would this path of worship be 'down-down' (murdaabaad)? Hm? (Someone said - after some days) After some days. 'Some' refers to how many? While saying 'some, some' seventy years have passed. It has to end now, is it not? (Someone said - yes) If you spend you would certainly get in return. Continue to cause benefit of everyone in the name of God. You know that we would certainly get the inheritance of 21 births. It is explained so nicely. Then, those, who are fortunate, spend money. If they are not fortunate, then they hide it like a miser (soom).
The Father says - one has to definitely take care of one's household. It is not that you bring your household also and leave it to the responsibility of Baba. Baba teaches us to become independant (swadheen). He does not teach us to become subordinates (paraadheen). In the beginning Baba's part itself was such. Baba got highly intoxicated that Baba is giving us the kingship of the world. So he left everything. So many had to be sustained. But all this is subordination/dependance (adheenataa), is not it? When the Father comes he liberates us from subordination. Those who become subordinates (adheen) can never become Officers. Those who become subordinates keep seeking alms. Those who are free (swaadheen) remain in the intoxication that - to which clan do we belong? There is an intoxication (nashaa) in the intellect that we are Suryavanshi, is not it? OK, Om Shanti.
There is a small night class. Children, are you sitting in soul conscious stage or do you become body conscious? You know that – it is we Brahmins alone, who get the knowledge to become soul conscious, to leave body consciousness. You know that God teaches us this matter. You know the name of God also. Arey! If you know the name of God (Bhagwaan), then you must be aware of the name of the devil also (shaitaan). God Shiv teaches, doesn’t He? The name itself is Shiv. God lives in the Supreme Abode (Paramdhaam), the Abode of peace (Shaantidhaam). We souls are also residents of the abode of peace. You have come to know through the Father that now it is the last birth. After this nobody is going to be born in this old world. It has been written in Gita, the Gita of human beings also. What? We are residents of that Abode, where the light of Sun, Moon and the stars does not reach. “Yad gatwa na nivartantey...” It is the place from where a soul does not return to this old world, once it has reached that place.
Now we have completed 84 births. The most degraded 84th birth is now going to end. Now Baba is teaching us as a Teacher. He is our Father as well as a Teacher. It takes so many years in that study and the teachers also keep changing. Here you have only one teacher. You Brahmins know that the Father teaches this knowledge only once and in one birth only. There is one examination (imtihaan). What is the (question) paper of the examination? “Nashtomoha smritirlabdha” (becoming detached and being in remembrance). The same exam will be passed numberwise. They would get transformed from human beings to deities.
You know the aim and objective. The knowledge is also great. That knowledge causes so much income (aamdani). One earns income for one birth and here you get fruits (praarabdha) for many births. So this knowledge is greater, isn’t it? One has to become the master of the world. And one has to become here itself. One would not become master of the world in the Golden Age. While you have full faith that – God teaches and we would definitely go to God only. We would go and listen to His direct versions. We are not going to listen to the versions of other human beings. Such a great knowledge should fit into the intellect, isn’t it? The greater the knowledge, the greater should be your study. Otherwise what do they do? They develop doubts over the versions of the Father and start studying from the accomplices and companions. They start churning matters whichever way anyone has narrated. They start doubting the attainments (praapti) that are received from the Father ... (to be continued)
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Extracts of ShivBaba’s Murli [via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit ] – as narrated to the PBKs
VCD No.581, Audio Cassette No.1067, dated 25.12.06, Calcutta,
Clarification of Murlis dated 23.6.67 and 24.6.67
Ref. No.VCD-581-Part-IV-Eng.
... The Father says that sanshaybuddhi vinashyatey (those who lose faith get destroyed) nishchaybuddhi vijayatey (those who continue to have faith become victorious) Here no expenditure is involved in the study (padhaai). Even then one keeps getting doubts (sanshay). They feel – the study is very long. Arey! There is no fee involved in the study. One must not leave such cheap studies. Children do not study properly thinking that the study is very cheap. Those who are God’s children would certainly become helpful (madadgaar). If they are the children of other religious fathers, then they would become helpful to them. They would leave the study midway. They would get influenced by one another. There are such children also who keep teaching many. Many go to them to study and understand. Then among them some such strong souls emerge, who study in full depth. Why does it happen like that? Such a great knowledge, such a cheap knowledge, then why doesn’t everyone study? When the Father is teaching, then one should start studying immediately. Why don’t they start studying?
The Father says – children, remember the Father. If you remember, then you would get power. The cycle of 84 births would fit into your intellect completely. Now you have to go home naked. No effigy of body consciousness would remain in your intellect. Baba keeps explaining a lot – remain in remembrance while walking, moving around, taking a stroll, eating. If you remain in such a stage and if anyone passes by you, then he would also get influenced by you. There is no need to speak or do anything. Children are weak in remembrance. So however much influence they try to cast, the arrow does not hit anyone completely at all. Some children remain in a lot of zeal and enthusiasm (umang-utsaah). They show a lot of courage (himmat) to explain someone; then Baba also feels pity at that child. He enters into him and gives drishti (vision) to that child; He would give the power of vacha (speech). So the children feel that those who show courage get the help of God Father. They narrate so many good points. Some, who are egotistic, feel that they have explained. Brahmani also feels that Baba Himself came and explained. This is also a part of the drama.
You children have become degraded (tamopradhaan) in this last birth. A degraded soul cannot serve anyone. It is explained so much that - remain in a soul conscious stage; then the pure (satwic) soul would leave an impression (prabhaav). By remaining in body consciousness, one would spread degraded (taamsi) vibrations. But they do not understand. This is also a part of the drama. You children are bound by the drama to do service or disservice. For those, who do not do service, it would be said that - they do not inculcate completely. In some matter or the other they inculcate opposite things. They keep violating inculcations (dhaarnaaen). That is why they cannot do service. Instead of service they do even more disservice. This is also still going on as per the drama. Until the sins have not been destroyed this would continue to happen. If someone walks on the tracks (patari) of drama, then one would be able to remain a detached spectator (sakshi). Otherwise one would keep experiencing the sorrows inside.
Now the knowledge is contained in your intellect. All the human beings of the world are sleeping in the darkness of ignorance (agyaan). The Father explains that – your soul only studies. But because of body consciousness you think yourself to be a body. You do not think yourself to be a soul. It does not fit into the intellect every moment that I am a soul. This knowledge does not remain in the intellect. Because of becoming body conscious, they start doing disservice. The ego of knowledge emerges. When the ego of knowledge emerges then they insult (even) the elders/Seniors. Otherwise, the knowledge says that – give pleasure to everyone. Knowledgeful (gyaani) is one, who imbibes the knowledge. If there is no inculcation of knowledge; if someone narrates knowledge as an egotist, if someone utters words that insult others, then it would not be called knowledge. Gyaani (knowledgeful) means one who gives pleasure to others. Agyaani (ignorant) means one who causes sorrows to others. If one causes happiness, then one would remain happy. As the thoughts in the end, so shall be one’s fate. If Brahmins cause sorrows, then they accrue hundred times burden (bojh). While continuing to accrue such hundreds of times burden, the soul becomes degraded. Then they say – now the stage (avastha) does not remain as it used to be earlier.
Arey! The knowledge is contained in the intellect. This would also be called drama only. Every thing in the world is initially satopradhan (completely pure). Then it gets transformed from satopradhan to satosamanya (partially pure), rajo (partially impure) and then it comes to the tamo (completely impure) stage. This knowledge also passes through four stages. But it does not mean that we should make loose efforts. Although the knowledge passes through the four stages, even then we must strive to remain soul conscious. Those souls which pay more attention to this aspect, remain happy for more number of births. And those souls which do not pay attention; then just as the river flows, wherever the stream of water flows, the living beings and animals (jeev-jantu) flow with the same stream. They would be termed weak souls, but there is one such animal also, which swims upstream. How does that snake flow against the stream? When one (snake) can swim upstream, then why can’t we climb? The intellect of those animalse does not contain knowledge. The knowledge is contained in our intellect that – who should we follow? Hm? (Someone said – Brahma Baba) Amma-Baba. We have to follow Father Brahma. Not the single Brahma. If you remember Father Brahma in the intellect, then you would also remember that - Prajapita is also Brahma ...(to be continued)
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Note: This is only a draft of the extracts of above-mentioned VCD for favour of information. Only when the translation of the entire Murli contained in this VCD is released, that may be considered as the final version. The words in italics are Hindi words.
VCD No.581, Audio Cassette No.1067, dated 25.12.06, Calcutta,
Clarification of Murlis dated 23.6.67 and 24.6.67
Ref. No.VCD-581-Part-IV-Eng.
... The Father says that sanshaybuddhi vinashyatey (those who lose faith get destroyed) nishchaybuddhi vijayatey (those who continue to have faith become victorious) Here no expenditure is involved in the study (padhaai). Even then one keeps getting doubts (sanshay). They feel – the study is very long. Arey! There is no fee involved in the study. One must not leave such cheap studies. Children do not study properly thinking that the study is very cheap. Those who are God’s children would certainly become helpful (madadgaar). If they are the children of other religious fathers, then they would become helpful to them. They would leave the study midway. They would get influenced by one another. There are such children also who keep teaching many. Many go to them to study and understand. Then among them some such strong souls emerge, who study in full depth. Why does it happen like that? Such a great knowledge, such a cheap knowledge, then why doesn’t everyone study? When the Father is teaching, then one should start studying immediately. Why don’t they start studying?
The Father says – children, remember the Father. If you remember, then you would get power. The cycle of 84 births would fit into your intellect completely. Now you have to go home naked. No effigy of body consciousness would remain in your intellect. Baba keeps explaining a lot – remain in remembrance while walking, moving around, taking a stroll, eating. If you remain in such a stage and if anyone passes by you, then he would also get influenced by you. There is no need to speak or do anything. Children are weak in remembrance. So however much influence they try to cast, the arrow does not hit anyone completely at all. Some children remain in a lot of zeal and enthusiasm (umang-utsaah). They show a lot of courage (himmat) to explain someone; then Baba also feels pity at that child. He enters into him and gives drishti (vision) to that child; He would give the power of vacha (speech). So the children feel that those who show courage get the help of God Father. They narrate so many good points. Some, who are egotistic, feel that they have explained. Brahmani also feels that Baba Himself came and explained. This is also a part of the drama.
You children have become degraded (tamopradhaan) in this last birth. A degraded soul cannot serve anyone. It is explained so much that - remain in a soul conscious stage; then the pure (satwic) soul would leave an impression (prabhaav). By remaining in body consciousness, one would spread degraded (taamsi) vibrations. But they do not understand. This is also a part of the drama. You children are bound by the drama to do service or disservice. For those, who do not do service, it would be said that - they do not inculcate completely. In some matter or the other they inculcate opposite things. They keep violating inculcations (dhaarnaaen). That is why they cannot do service. Instead of service they do even more disservice. This is also still going on as per the drama. Until the sins have not been destroyed this would continue to happen. If someone walks on the tracks (patari) of drama, then one would be able to remain a detached spectator (sakshi). Otherwise one would keep experiencing the sorrows inside.
Now the knowledge is contained in your intellect. All the human beings of the world are sleeping in the darkness of ignorance (agyaan). The Father explains that – your soul only studies. But because of body consciousness you think yourself to be a body. You do not think yourself to be a soul. It does not fit into the intellect every moment that I am a soul. This knowledge does not remain in the intellect. Because of becoming body conscious, they start doing disservice. The ego of knowledge emerges. When the ego of knowledge emerges then they insult (even) the elders/Seniors. Otherwise, the knowledge says that – give pleasure to everyone. Knowledgeful (gyaani) is one, who imbibes the knowledge. If there is no inculcation of knowledge; if someone narrates knowledge as an egotist, if someone utters words that insult others, then it would not be called knowledge. Gyaani (knowledgeful) means one who gives pleasure to others. Agyaani (ignorant) means one who causes sorrows to others. If one causes happiness, then one would remain happy. As the thoughts in the end, so shall be one’s fate. If Brahmins cause sorrows, then they accrue hundred times burden (bojh). While continuing to accrue such hundreds of times burden, the soul becomes degraded. Then they say – now the stage (avastha) does not remain as it used to be earlier.
Arey! The knowledge is contained in the intellect. This would also be called drama only. Every thing in the world is initially satopradhan (completely pure). Then it gets transformed from satopradhan to satosamanya (partially pure), rajo (partially impure) and then it comes to the tamo (completely impure) stage. This knowledge also passes through four stages. But it does not mean that we should make loose efforts. Although the knowledge passes through the four stages, even then we must strive to remain soul conscious. Those souls which pay more attention to this aspect, remain happy for more number of births. And those souls which do not pay attention; then just as the river flows, wherever the stream of water flows, the living beings and animals (jeev-jantu) flow with the same stream. They would be termed weak souls, but there is one such animal also, which swims upstream. How does that snake flow against the stream? When one (snake) can swim upstream, then why can’t we climb? The intellect of those animalse does not contain knowledge. The knowledge is contained in our intellect that – who should we follow? Hm? (Someone said – Brahma Baba) Amma-Baba. We have to follow Father Brahma. Not the single Brahma. If you remember Father Brahma in the intellect, then you would also remember that - Prajapita is also Brahma ...(to be continued)
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Extracts of ShivBaba’s Murli [via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit ] – as narrated to the PBKs
VCD No.581, Audio Cassette No.1067, dated 25.12.06, Calcutta,
Clarification of Murlis dated 23.6.67 and 24.6.67
Ref. No.VCD-581-Part-V-Eng.
... Who is the first Brahma? Shiv is the Father. When He enters, He says – whichever body I enter, what should it be named as? (It should be named) as Brahma. So in whomsoever He enters to lay the seed is also Brahma. That is why how many Brahmas are famous? Five are famous. Among them one is Prajapita and rest of the Brahmas are numberwise. So whom should we follow? We have to follow Prajapita Brahma. That is why the Suryavanshi children always consider themselves to be in a path of household (pravrittimarg). The picture of Ardhanaareeshwar is always in front of them. They view BapDada in a combined form. It remains in the intellect that – the soul of Brahma, which plays a part of tolerance and the Father, who plays the part of power to face situations – both play a part in combined form, which is called ‘Ardhanaareeshwar’. If one remains in the household then he/she likes pleasure. All the other religious fathers belong to the path of renunciation (nivrittimarg). They do not prosper in a household. It is Guru Nanak alone, who sustained household, but even his household is an impure household. The Father alone comes and teaches pure household.
Now the Father says – when the children are unable to make efforts to become soul conscious, they fail. Maya slaps (them) in the matter of remembrance only. Maya is unable to shake the knowledgeful ones (gyaani). Maya retracts her steps after finding a knowledgeful soul in a steadfast stage. Then it does not attack in the form of five vices. It attacks in the form of laziness or carelessness. When one climbs up to the apex of the final efforts (purushaarth) in the Rudramala, then, in which form does the attack take place especially? Everyone knows that ‘if the Amrit Vela improves, then everything would improve. If someone gets a job with a salary of 10 thousand, 20 thousand, 50 thousand to work at Amrit Vela, then would they remain awakened or not? (Everyone said – they will) They would fear losing the job. And here they know that this is an income worth cowries. Now we are obtaining diamonds and gems for many births. Even then one does not pay attention to Amrit Vela. So, if it is not carelessness, then what else? When carelessness (albelapan) comes, then laziness (susti) also comes. If there is no carelessness, then the laziness also vanishes.
When you waste time like this, then the human beings understand that – these people simply keep telling. They do not set an example themselves. Look, Maya slaps in such a manner. They commit sins (vikarma). The Father comes and reminds, explains that – do not waste time now. You have been talking about death (maut) since a long time. Death is staring at you. So it fits into the intellect of human beings that – these people keep talking. Before telling the world about death, one should keep one’s death in front of himself/herself. When you die the world is dead for you. Nothing is going to happen. This has fitted into the intellect of the worldly people. So now they do not pay attention to your versions. Ultimately the death would definitely arrive one day, because these atom bombs have not been prepared for the decoration of our house. Then nobody would be able to save himself/herself. Only those people would be able to save themselves who have practiced to renounce body consciousness, and who have become constant in soul conscious stage. The Supreme Soul Father, who always remains in a soul conscious stage would help those who become constant in a soul conscious stage. For e.g. earthquakes occur. It is seen that some people survive even the dangerous earthquakes. They say that God saved them. It is a mega destruction that is staring at us. This old body would definitely have to be left. So you must make very nice efforts.
The Father sits and narrates – how one must remain in the journey of remembrance. How can you gain victory over the world? The world where you would rule would become a world of noble souls (punya aatmaen). This is a world of sinful souls, who consider themselves to be sinful. So they call (God) while considering themselves to be sinful ones. So the Father has to come in every Kalpa. Now this is the last war. After this no war would break out for the next two thousand five hundred years. When the war would not break out, it would be called a Godly kingdom and this is a demoniac kingdom, where there is dispute in every house. Now your Godly kingdom is getting established. You know that how the kingship is getting transferred. I come in the Confluence Age and cause the benefit of everyone. This is nothing new. It had happened similarly in the previous Kalpa too. The kingdom had been transferred.
Now you know that – we have fallen from the sky on this Earth. Now the Father is making us the masters of the world once again. First of all you children only were in the new world. Those who were there first of all, have now become the degraded, sinful ones. There is not pleasure in other religions to the extent it was in your religion. You experience pleasures for 3/4th part. People belonging to other religions experience pleasures for one half and sorrows for the remaining half. Even in that it is numberwise. The Father has said – this religion causes a lot of happiness. Which religion? Who is the Father who says? Is it the Sun, is it the Moon, is it a planet, is it the third planet, is it the fourth planet, is it the fifth planet; who is it? (Everyone said – it is the Sun) So which religion causes a lot of pleasure? The Sun Dynasty causes a lot of pleasure. Those who get converted to other religions, or the ones who are covered by the peels of other religions, would not be prosperous to that extent as the Suryavanshis because when the Father comes, He first of all gives this knowledge to Sun. The one who gets the attainments first of all, corners the benefits. So now make efforts to become Suryavanshi.
The scripture of Brahmins, then Suryavanshi deities, then the Chandravanshis is one and the same. There is no kingship of Brahmins. Those Brahmins who sit here and issue orders to others, those who rule or wish to rule, lose. Their kingship would not continue. Why? It is because there is no kingship in the Brahmin religion. All Brahmins are servers (sevadharis). The Father also comes as a server. He tells those children who follow the directions of the Father, that – Children, I am your most obedient servant. You would not get such a most obedient servant like this in 84 births. So make efforts to become Suryavanshi. All the three religions are getting established now. Good night children. Om Shanti. (Concluded)
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Note: This is only a draft of the extracts of above-mentioned VCD for favour of information. Only when the translation of the entire Murli contained in this VCD is released, that may be considered as the final version. The words in italics are Hindi words.
VCD No.581, Audio Cassette No.1067, dated 25.12.06, Calcutta,
Clarification of Murlis dated 23.6.67 and 24.6.67
Ref. No.VCD-581-Part-V-Eng.
... Who is the first Brahma? Shiv is the Father. When He enters, He says – whichever body I enter, what should it be named as? (It should be named) as Brahma. So in whomsoever He enters to lay the seed is also Brahma. That is why how many Brahmas are famous? Five are famous. Among them one is Prajapita and rest of the Brahmas are numberwise. So whom should we follow? We have to follow Prajapita Brahma. That is why the Suryavanshi children always consider themselves to be in a path of household (pravrittimarg). The picture of Ardhanaareeshwar is always in front of them. They view BapDada in a combined form. It remains in the intellect that – the soul of Brahma, which plays a part of tolerance and the Father, who plays the part of power to face situations – both play a part in combined form, which is called ‘Ardhanaareeshwar’. If one remains in the household then he/she likes pleasure. All the other religious fathers belong to the path of renunciation (nivrittimarg). They do not prosper in a household. It is Guru Nanak alone, who sustained household, but even his household is an impure household. The Father alone comes and teaches pure household.
Now the Father says – when the children are unable to make efforts to become soul conscious, they fail. Maya slaps (them) in the matter of remembrance only. Maya is unable to shake the knowledgeful ones (gyaani). Maya retracts her steps after finding a knowledgeful soul in a steadfast stage. Then it does not attack in the form of five vices. It attacks in the form of laziness or carelessness. When one climbs up to the apex of the final efforts (purushaarth) in the Rudramala, then, in which form does the attack take place especially? Everyone knows that ‘if the Amrit Vela improves, then everything would improve. If someone gets a job with a salary of 10 thousand, 20 thousand, 50 thousand to work at Amrit Vela, then would they remain awakened or not? (Everyone said – they will) They would fear losing the job. And here they know that this is an income worth cowries. Now we are obtaining diamonds and gems for many births. Even then one does not pay attention to Amrit Vela. So, if it is not carelessness, then what else? When carelessness (albelapan) comes, then laziness (susti) also comes. If there is no carelessness, then the laziness also vanishes.
When you waste time like this, then the human beings understand that – these people simply keep telling. They do not set an example themselves. Look, Maya slaps in such a manner. They commit sins (vikarma). The Father comes and reminds, explains that – do not waste time now. You have been talking about death (maut) since a long time. Death is staring at you. So it fits into the intellect of human beings that – these people keep talking. Before telling the world about death, one should keep one’s death in front of himself/herself. When you die the world is dead for you. Nothing is going to happen. This has fitted into the intellect of the worldly people. So now they do not pay attention to your versions. Ultimately the death would definitely arrive one day, because these atom bombs have not been prepared for the decoration of our house. Then nobody would be able to save himself/herself. Only those people would be able to save themselves who have practiced to renounce body consciousness, and who have become constant in soul conscious stage. The Supreme Soul Father, who always remains in a soul conscious stage would help those who become constant in a soul conscious stage. For e.g. earthquakes occur. It is seen that some people survive even the dangerous earthquakes. They say that God saved them. It is a mega destruction that is staring at us. This old body would definitely have to be left. So you must make very nice efforts.
The Father sits and narrates – how one must remain in the journey of remembrance. How can you gain victory over the world? The world where you would rule would become a world of noble souls (punya aatmaen). This is a world of sinful souls, who consider themselves to be sinful. So they call (God) while considering themselves to be sinful ones. So the Father has to come in every Kalpa. Now this is the last war. After this no war would break out for the next two thousand five hundred years. When the war would not break out, it would be called a Godly kingdom and this is a demoniac kingdom, where there is dispute in every house. Now your Godly kingdom is getting established. You know that how the kingship is getting transferred. I come in the Confluence Age and cause the benefit of everyone. This is nothing new. It had happened similarly in the previous Kalpa too. The kingdom had been transferred.
Now you know that – we have fallen from the sky on this Earth. Now the Father is making us the masters of the world once again. First of all you children only were in the new world. Those who were there first of all, have now become the degraded, sinful ones. There is not pleasure in other religions to the extent it was in your religion. You experience pleasures for 3/4th part. People belonging to other religions experience pleasures for one half and sorrows for the remaining half. Even in that it is numberwise. The Father has said – this religion causes a lot of happiness. Which religion? Who is the Father who says? Is it the Sun, is it the Moon, is it a planet, is it the third planet, is it the fourth planet, is it the fifth planet; who is it? (Everyone said – it is the Sun) So which religion causes a lot of pleasure? The Sun Dynasty causes a lot of pleasure. Those who get converted to other religions, or the ones who are covered by the peels of other religions, would not be prosperous to that extent as the Suryavanshis because when the Father comes, He first of all gives this knowledge to Sun. The one who gets the attainments first of all, corners the benefits. So now make efforts to become Suryavanshi.
The scripture of Brahmins, then Suryavanshi deities, then the Chandravanshis is one and the same. There is no kingship of Brahmins. Those Brahmins who sit here and issue orders to others, those who rule or wish to rule, lose. Their kingship would not continue. Why? It is because there is no kingship in the Brahmin religion. All Brahmins are servers (sevadharis). The Father also comes as a server. He tells those children who follow the directions of the Father, that – Children, I am your most obedient servant. You would not get such a most obedient servant like this in 84 births. So make efforts to become Suryavanshi. All the three religions are getting established now. Good night children. Om Shanti. (Concluded)
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Note: This is only a draft of the extracts of above-mentioned VCD for favour of information. Only when the translation of the entire Murli contained in this VCD is released, that may be considered as the final version. The words in italics are Hindi words.
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Extracts of ShivBaba’s Murli [via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit ] – as narrated to the PBKs
VCD No.489, Cass.No.975, dated 3.8.06, Iluavari (Nepal),
Clarification of Murli dated 9.4.67,
Ref. No.VCD-489-Part-I-Eng.
A night class, dated 9th April, 1967 was being narrated at Dhulabari. At the end of the middle portion of the first page, the matter being narrated was – well, the destruction is certainly going to take place because the material for destruction has already been prepared. Seventy years ago, the atomic energy had not been prepared at all and seventy years ago even God had not come in this world. It is within the seventy years that God also comes and brings out the material for establishment also and gets the material for destruction also prepared. Establishment of new world and destruction of the old world.
He is the master of the house-like world (srishti-roopi makaan), is not He? So, He knows that now this world has become very old. When the house becomes very old, then no repairer can sustain the house in spite of undertaking repairs. This house-like world is also similar. After 2500 years many good repairers came. Abraham came, Buddha came, Christ came, Guru Nanak came, Vivekanand came; they repaired in their own way, but how many days would the repair last? The house is bound to become old. Now it has become so old that nobody can say about this house that we always remain happy with our body, mind, wealth, time, contacts, and relatives throughout our life. At such a time, the master of this house-like world, i.e. God comes in this world.
When everyone has shown his/her miracle (karishma), then He comes in the end. He comes and gives three messages. I, the doer-enabler (kartaa-dhartaa) of this world have come in this world to purify the sinful world, to transform the Iron-Aged land of untruth (jhoothkhand) into a land of truth (sachkhand). There are two messages; one is that God has come and secondly - He has come to make a new world. And the third message is that the destruction of this world is staring at us, because the atomic energy is ready. When bombs of 20 megawatts each were dropped over Hiroshima and Nagasaki in 1945, then both the cities got destroyed. And now atom bombs, hydrogen bombs, microbial (keetanu) bombs of thousands of mega watts each are ready. Large countries, which are called super-powers (mahashaktiyaan), have stocks full, for which God has said in Gita - O Arjuna! The entire world is going to get chewed in between my jaws. These atom bomb-like jaws are floating in the sky and they are buried inside the land in tunnels (surang) and in the ocean.
There are so many countries. There is so much difference of opinion prevalent between all of them. The countries are different, the religions are different, the languages are different, and the opinions are different. All are fighting with each other. Small wars also keep taking place. For e.g. the Iraq war broke out, the Afghanistan war broke out; so such stage has also reached that the atomic war could take place at any time. But now all this rehearsal is taking place. The task for which God has come; until the establishment of the new world does not take place, until the new gathering of the new world does not get ready, the destruction is held up. Now God says that the destruction is staring at us. The sparks (chingaari) are emerging. Then this spark would spread in the entire world.
The Father says - now let us go home through the intellect. Call it intellect, call it mind - this itself is called soul. Withdraw this mind and intellect-like soul from this world, only then would you be able to remember me. For e.g. Arjun asked God in Gita - O God! This mind is very inconstant (chanchal); it cannot be controlled; it runs here and there; please solve this. So God said - "Asanshayam mahabaho manodurnigraham chalam. Abhyaasen tu kauntey vairagyen cha grahyatey." There are two things through which the mind could be controlled. One thing is – practice - if the mind runs here and there repeatedly; we should divert the mind towards God's remembrance repeatedly. This practice should be perfected. And secondly - this practice would also be perfected only when one gets detached from this world.
For e.g. there is a house; the Father builds the house; the Father has children. When the Father builds a new house, then the old house has to be demolished. The intellect of the children gets attached to the new house. Since the old house is going to be demolished, it has become old, that is why the intellect of the children gets detached from that. So similarly, the intelligent (samajhdaar) children of God should withdraw their intellect from this house-like world, which has become old. One should withdraw the connection of the intellect from it. When the connection of the intellect gets detached, then the intellect would get connected with God. If it does not get detached, then the intellect would remain entangled in the body and bodily relationships, things connected with the body, in the mills, multi-storied buildings built by the big multimillionaires. All this is pomp of Maya. When the world is about to end, then in the last hundred years, all this pomp of Maya gets ready. High rise buildings keep getting ready, magnificient cities keep getting built. People think that - now the world of prosperity has arrived. But if it is observed, then that world of prosperity gets ready for a few people. The major percentage of public remains poor only. And the condition of the most ancient Indian children of God becomes worse ...(to be continued)
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Note: This is only a draft of the extracts of above-mentioned VCD for favour of information. Only when the translation of the entire Murli contained in this VCD is released, that may be considered as the final version. The words in italics are Hindi words.
VCD No.489, Cass.No.975, dated 3.8.06, Iluavari (Nepal),
Clarification of Murli dated 9.4.67,
Ref. No.VCD-489-Part-I-Eng.
A night class, dated 9th April, 1967 was being narrated at Dhulabari. At the end of the middle portion of the first page, the matter being narrated was – well, the destruction is certainly going to take place because the material for destruction has already been prepared. Seventy years ago, the atomic energy had not been prepared at all and seventy years ago even God had not come in this world. It is within the seventy years that God also comes and brings out the material for establishment also and gets the material for destruction also prepared. Establishment of new world and destruction of the old world.
He is the master of the house-like world (srishti-roopi makaan), is not He? So, He knows that now this world has become very old. When the house becomes very old, then no repairer can sustain the house in spite of undertaking repairs. This house-like world is also similar. After 2500 years many good repairers came. Abraham came, Buddha came, Christ came, Guru Nanak came, Vivekanand came; they repaired in their own way, but how many days would the repair last? The house is bound to become old. Now it has become so old that nobody can say about this house that we always remain happy with our body, mind, wealth, time, contacts, and relatives throughout our life. At such a time, the master of this house-like world, i.e. God comes in this world.
When everyone has shown his/her miracle (karishma), then He comes in the end. He comes and gives three messages. I, the doer-enabler (kartaa-dhartaa) of this world have come in this world to purify the sinful world, to transform the Iron-Aged land of untruth (jhoothkhand) into a land of truth (sachkhand). There are two messages; one is that God has come and secondly - He has come to make a new world. And the third message is that the destruction of this world is staring at us, because the atomic energy is ready. When bombs of 20 megawatts each were dropped over Hiroshima and Nagasaki in 1945, then both the cities got destroyed. And now atom bombs, hydrogen bombs, microbial (keetanu) bombs of thousands of mega watts each are ready. Large countries, which are called super-powers (mahashaktiyaan), have stocks full, for which God has said in Gita - O Arjuna! The entire world is going to get chewed in between my jaws. These atom bomb-like jaws are floating in the sky and they are buried inside the land in tunnels (surang) and in the ocean.
There are so many countries. There is so much difference of opinion prevalent between all of them. The countries are different, the religions are different, the languages are different, and the opinions are different. All are fighting with each other. Small wars also keep taking place. For e.g. the Iraq war broke out, the Afghanistan war broke out; so such stage has also reached that the atomic war could take place at any time. But now all this rehearsal is taking place. The task for which God has come; until the establishment of the new world does not take place, until the new gathering of the new world does not get ready, the destruction is held up. Now God says that the destruction is staring at us. The sparks (chingaari) are emerging. Then this spark would spread in the entire world.
The Father says - now let us go home through the intellect. Call it intellect, call it mind - this itself is called soul. Withdraw this mind and intellect-like soul from this world, only then would you be able to remember me. For e.g. Arjun asked God in Gita - O God! This mind is very inconstant (chanchal); it cannot be controlled; it runs here and there; please solve this. So God said - "Asanshayam mahabaho manodurnigraham chalam. Abhyaasen tu kauntey vairagyen cha grahyatey." There are two things through which the mind could be controlled. One thing is – practice - if the mind runs here and there repeatedly; we should divert the mind towards God's remembrance repeatedly. This practice should be perfected. And secondly - this practice would also be perfected only when one gets detached from this world.
For e.g. there is a house; the Father builds the house; the Father has children. When the Father builds a new house, then the old house has to be demolished. The intellect of the children gets attached to the new house. Since the old house is going to be demolished, it has become old, that is why the intellect of the children gets detached from that. So similarly, the intelligent (samajhdaar) children of God should withdraw their intellect from this house-like world, which has become old. One should withdraw the connection of the intellect from it. When the connection of the intellect gets detached, then the intellect would get connected with God. If it does not get detached, then the intellect would remain entangled in the body and bodily relationships, things connected with the body, in the mills, multi-storied buildings built by the big multimillionaires. All this is pomp of Maya. When the world is about to end, then in the last hundred years, all this pomp of Maya gets ready. High rise buildings keep getting ready, magnificient cities keep getting built. People think that - now the world of prosperity has arrived. But if it is observed, then that world of prosperity gets ready for a few people. The major percentage of public remains poor only. And the condition of the most ancient Indian children of God becomes worse ...(to be continued)
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Note: This is only a draft of the extracts of above-mentioned VCD for favour of information. Only when the translation of the entire Murli contained in this VCD is released, that may be considered as the final version. The words in italics are Hindi words.
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Extracts of ShivBaba’s Murli [via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit ] – as narrated to the PBKs
VCD No.489, Cass.No.975, dated 3.8.06, Iluavari (Nepal),
Clarification of Murli dated 9.4.67,
Ref. No.VCD-489-Part-II-Eng.
... So He says that - one should become detached from this dirty world, from the old world because now the kingship of you Indians is going to be established. You even say that - India was the crown (sartaj) of everyone. Now it has become dependant (mohtaj) on all the countries. Now God Father has come again to make it the crown of all these countries. Other religious fathers also come; they establish religions like Islam, Buddhism, Christianity, etc. All of them come within 2500 years. The history of all of them is available. But when God came and created this new world, when He had established Sanatan Dharma - nobody knows about it. It is thousands of years old matter.
Only a hint has been given in Gita that - Mahabharata war had taken place 5000 years ago. God had come and taught Rajyog after teaching the knowledge of Gita; but even in that the human gurus have committed a scam (ghotala). That Mahabharata war has been depicted at the end of the Copper Age that - God Krishna came at the end of the Copper Age and caused the Mahabharata war and after he caused the war, the eighteen Akshauhini army, which is equal to the population of today's world got destroyed. 5 Pandavas survived. So what was the use of incarnation of God? At the end of the Copper Age, He caused the Mahabharata War and established the Iron-Aged sinful world. So does God come to establish a sinful world?
Nobody knows anything. Even those who write these scriptures do not know that - when does God come? It has been written in Gita - "Sambhavaami yugey yugey." I come in every yug (age or era). Arey! Suppose there is a Father; he builds a house, then, does he demolish the new house? He does not demolish the satopradhan house. He does not demolish the house even when it is in a satosaamaanya stage. When it starts breaking, when it becomes rajopradhaan, when the breakage (toot-foot) crosses the limit, when it becomes difficult to sit in it, when it becomes difficult to sleep in it, then he demolishes the tamopradhaan house.
Everything in the world passes through four stages. Whether it is human beings, whether it is animals, whether it is a shop, whether it is a house, whichever thing of the world it is, whether it is living or non-living, it passes through four stages. So, this world also passes through four stages. It is not that – when the rajopradhan world Copper Age begins, then there is a need for God to come. No. Or that there is a need for Him to come in the Golden Age. That is already a satopradhan Age. Or that there is a need for Him to come in the Silver Age. There is already a kingdom of Ram (Ram Rajya). Ram Rajya is praised so much. Gandhiji fought so much to establish the Ram Rajya. Actually, in the Iron Age it is a kingdom of Ravan - the rule of ten heads. Ten intellects work to run the religions of this world. Many religions emerge; many kingships emerge; many kings emerge; and in the end those kings also fight amongst themselves and establish the rule of subjects (praja) over subjects (praja).
Well, is a King intelligent, strong, and powerful or are the subjects powerful? Who possesses more power? The King possesses more power. No religious Father comes in this world and establishes kingship. They just come and establish the inculcations of their religion. They establish religion. They do not teach Rajyog. They do not know at all. How can they teach? God alone comes and teaches Rajyog to the Indians in India. If someone says – Why does He show such partiality, that He teaches the Indians; He does not teach the people of other countries. He does not show partiality. He tells – The importance that is accorded to Brahmacharya (celibacy) in India, the extent to which virgins and mothers are protected in India to enable them to remain pure, is not witnessed in other countries. And God likes purity. When people go to a temple, do they go there with mootpaleeti legs and hands (i.e. after indulging in sex)? They go there after becoming clean and pure, don’t they? The reproduction itself in today’s world takes place through sex-lust (mootpalit). So God comes to change this mootpalit (lustful) world.
There are ten organs. Among the ten organs, there are unrighteous organs also. Children are born when lustful acts are performed through the unrighteous organs. And there are righteous organs also, which are called sense organs (gyaanendriyaan). Which organs attract more? Is there more attraction, more power in the sense organs, or is there more attraction, more power in the bodily organs (karmendriyaan)? The one, who possesses more power, would be able to experience pleasures for a longer period. And the one, who possesses less power, would be able to experience momentary pleasure (kshanbhangur sukh) and experience it. When a human being becomes old, when he falls sick, when the organs become weak, then he cannot experience even the momentary pleasures of the world.
God comes and creates such world where pleasures can be experienced forever through the sense organs, through the righteous organs (shreshtha indriyaan). The matter of tiredness does not arise at all there. Here in this world one becomes tired every moment. The one who acts through the righteous sense organs is called a righteous deity (shreshathaachaari devataa). We worship those righteous deities in temples. The basis of worship is purity. God came and taught this special lesson to Arjun – O Arjun! “Kaameshu Krodheshu rajogun samudbhav. Jehi yenam paap maanam.” This lust and anger are your greatest enemies. Gain victory over them. It has been said – One who gains victory over the sex-organs gains victory over the world.” ...(to be continued)
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Note: This is only a draft of the extracts of above-mentioned VCD for favour of information. Only when the translation of the entire Murli contained in this VCD is released, that may be considered as the final version. The words in italics are Hindi words.
VCD No.489, Cass.No.975, dated 3.8.06, Iluavari (Nepal),
Clarification of Murli dated 9.4.67,
Ref. No.VCD-489-Part-II-Eng.
... So He says that - one should become detached from this dirty world, from the old world because now the kingship of you Indians is going to be established. You even say that - India was the crown (sartaj) of everyone. Now it has become dependant (mohtaj) on all the countries. Now God Father has come again to make it the crown of all these countries. Other religious fathers also come; they establish religions like Islam, Buddhism, Christianity, etc. All of them come within 2500 years. The history of all of them is available. But when God came and created this new world, when He had established Sanatan Dharma - nobody knows about it. It is thousands of years old matter.
Only a hint has been given in Gita that - Mahabharata war had taken place 5000 years ago. God had come and taught Rajyog after teaching the knowledge of Gita; but even in that the human gurus have committed a scam (ghotala). That Mahabharata war has been depicted at the end of the Copper Age that - God Krishna came at the end of the Copper Age and caused the Mahabharata war and after he caused the war, the eighteen Akshauhini army, which is equal to the population of today's world got destroyed. 5 Pandavas survived. So what was the use of incarnation of God? At the end of the Copper Age, He caused the Mahabharata War and established the Iron-Aged sinful world. So does God come to establish a sinful world?
Nobody knows anything. Even those who write these scriptures do not know that - when does God come? It has been written in Gita - "Sambhavaami yugey yugey." I come in every yug (age or era). Arey! Suppose there is a Father; he builds a house, then, does he demolish the new house? He does not demolish the satopradhan house. He does not demolish the house even when it is in a satosaamaanya stage. When it starts breaking, when it becomes rajopradhaan, when the breakage (toot-foot) crosses the limit, when it becomes difficult to sit in it, when it becomes difficult to sleep in it, then he demolishes the tamopradhaan house.
Everything in the world passes through four stages. Whether it is human beings, whether it is animals, whether it is a shop, whether it is a house, whichever thing of the world it is, whether it is living or non-living, it passes through four stages. So, this world also passes through four stages. It is not that – when the rajopradhan world Copper Age begins, then there is a need for God to come. No. Or that there is a need for Him to come in the Golden Age. That is already a satopradhan Age. Or that there is a need for Him to come in the Silver Age. There is already a kingdom of Ram (Ram Rajya). Ram Rajya is praised so much. Gandhiji fought so much to establish the Ram Rajya. Actually, in the Iron Age it is a kingdom of Ravan - the rule of ten heads. Ten intellects work to run the religions of this world. Many religions emerge; many kingships emerge; many kings emerge; and in the end those kings also fight amongst themselves and establish the rule of subjects (praja) over subjects (praja).
Well, is a King intelligent, strong, and powerful or are the subjects powerful? Who possesses more power? The King possesses more power. No religious Father comes in this world and establishes kingship. They just come and establish the inculcations of their religion. They establish religion. They do not teach Rajyog. They do not know at all. How can they teach? God alone comes and teaches Rajyog to the Indians in India. If someone says – Why does He show such partiality, that He teaches the Indians; He does not teach the people of other countries. He does not show partiality. He tells – The importance that is accorded to Brahmacharya (celibacy) in India, the extent to which virgins and mothers are protected in India to enable them to remain pure, is not witnessed in other countries. And God likes purity. When people go to a temple, do they go there with mootpaleeti legs and hands (i.e. after indulging in sex)? They go there after becoming clean and pure, don’t they? The reproduction itself in today’s world takes place through sex-lust (mootpalit). So God comes to change this mootpalit (lustful) world.
There are ten organs. Among the ten organs, there are unrighteous organs also. Children are born when lustful acts are performed through the unrighteous organs. And there are righteous organs also, which are called sense organs (gyaanendriyaan). Which organs attract more? Is there more attraction, more power in the sense organs, or is there more attraction, more power in the bodily organs (karmendriyaan)? The one, who possesses more power, would be able to experience pleasures for a longer period. And the one, who possesses less power, would be able to experience momentary pleasure (kshanbhangur sukh) and experience it. When a human being becomes old, when he falls sick, when the organs become weak, then he cannot experience even the momentary pleasures of the world.
God comes and creates such world where pleasures can be experienced forever through the sense organs, through the righteous organs (shreshtha indriyaan). The matter of tiredness does not arise at all there. Here in this world one becomes tired every moment. The one who acts through the righteous sense organs is called a righteous deity (shreshathaachaari devataa). We worship those righteous deities in temples. The basis of worship is purity. God came and taught this special lesson to Arjun – O Arjun! “Kaameshu Krodheshu rajogun samudbhav. Jehi yenam paap maanam.” This lust and anger are your greatest enemies. Gain victory over them. It has been said – One who gains victory over the sex-organs gains victory over the world.” ...(to be continued)
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Note: This is only a draft of the extracts of above-mentioned VCD for favour of information. Only when the translation of the entire Murli contained in this VCD is released, that may be considered as the final version. The words in italics are Hindi words.
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Extracts of ShivBaba’s Murli [via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit ] – as narrated to the PBKs
VCD No.489, Cass.No.975, dated 3.8.06, Iluavari (Nepal),
Clarification of Murli dated 9.4.67,
Ref. No.VCD-489-Part-III-Eng.
... Who is the highest deity among the deities? "Mahadev". For Mahadev it is depicted that - he turned Kaamdev (a Hindu deity personifying desire) into ashes. People think that - there must have been a deity by the name 'Kaam', and he was turned into ashes. Arey, will God turn the deities into ashes or will He turn the demons into ashes? This ghost of Kaamdev-like desire is present within human beings. Tapaswi Shankar performed the penance of Shiv and had turned that Kaam (sex-lust) into ashes. That sex-lust is present within all of us. Children are born through the assault of sex-lust. The creation (srishti) that takes place, the creation that begins, involves sorrows in the beginning also. The man also feels fatigued (nistej). The woman experiences even more difficulty (pareshaani). There is difficulty even when the child is born. The child also takes birth with cries. The mother also experiences great pain. And when that child grows up, when it becomes old, when the time of death nears, then in the end, one becomes frightened. Am.S.Aha..S.. One becomes frightened, is not it? One experiences so much difficulty in leaving the body. So, the Supreme Soul comes to end such unrighteous creation through the unrighteous organs from the world - which involves pain in the beginning also, in the middle also and in the end also, and establishes the righteous world of deities. The one, who establishes such a righteous world, prepares its kingdom.
Other religious fathers neither established kingship (raajaai) nor kingdom (raajdhaani). God comes and establishes the kingdom of deities, kingship of the world and then departs. The followers of other religious fathers, who existed in the past, desired to rule over the entire world. There were big ambitious persons like Hitler, Napolean, Mussolini; they nurtured the ambition to gain victory over the entire world. But none of them could do so. It is the Rajyog taught by God alone, through which Shankar gets the title of Vishwanath (lord of the world). "Har-har Mahadev Shambho, Kashi Vishwanath Gangey." He gained victory over the entire world through the power of Yoga.
Now God has come again. God is called incorporeal. He does not take birth through a body; He does not take bith through a womb. He is said to be beyond the cycle of birth and death. We human souls enter the cycle of birth and death. We experience pleasures and pains. He neither experiences pleasure nor pain. He is forever a point-like soul. Call it a bindu (point), call it a star, the big form of that star is worshipped especially in the form of a Shivling. He is also called "Jyotirlingam".
He is a resident of the Supreme Abode (Paramdhaam). He is not a resident of the Abode of death (mrityulok). He is a resident of a world situated beyond the Sun, the Moon and the Stars. For e.g. it has been written in the Gita also - "Na tad bhaasyatey Suryo na Shashanko na paavakah. Yat gatwa na nivartantey tad dhaam paramam mam." When I come in this world, and when destruction takes place in this entire world, then all the souls leave their bodies and reach my Supreme Abode, from where they do not return to this land of death.
Now God has come in this world again. He explains the children with a lot of love. He explains in the form of a mother by singing lullabies (lori). Children, now I have come. Have patientce (dheeraj dharo). This sorrow would last some more time. This is your last birth. This is the last birth for the entire world. After this nobody would be born in this land of death, in this Iron-Aged world. The new world, Golden Age is going to arrive. The Iron Age is going to end. He explains nicely. I have come to establish your kingdom. Those who learn Rajyog, those who achieve kingship, would be safe. And those who do not learn Rajyog, those who do not give value to the knowledge, would also be safe, but those people would be safe, who obtain just the message; who do not make efforts, who do not study the complete knowledge. Yes, when the sound spreads in the world that God has come, then they also start galloping. It means that they progress on the basis of compulsion (majboori). They do not have the power to make efforts like the Kings.
So I establish such a small world, where, at the time of destruction 9 lakh stars would shine in the sky. They would shine in the sky - it is not a matter of those non-living stars. They would shine in a high stage. Nobody in the world would be in as high a stage as them. The world would emanate cries of despair (traahi-traahi) at the time of destruction. Mountains of sorrows would fall and they would be wandering carefree (almast). They are not going to experience any kind of sorrow. It has been written in Quraan also - when destrution (kayaamat) takes place, then the men of God would live a life of pleasure. They would not experience any difficulty. The Muslims also believe in a Jannat, i.e. heaven. Christians also believe in a paradise. Hindus also believe in Vaikunth. So certainly the righteous souls selected from every religion obtain, accept the knowledge, the knowledge of Rajyog taught by God; they study the complete knowledge and obtain kingship from God ...(to be continued)
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Note: This is only a draft of the extracts of above-mentioned VCD for favour of information. Only when the translation of the entire Murli contained in this VCD is released, that may be considered as the final version. The words in italics are Hindi words.
VCD No.489, Cass.No.975, dated 3.8.06, Iluavari (Nepal),
Clarification of Murli dated 9.4.67,
Ref. No.VCD-489-Part-III-Eng.
... Who is the highest deity among the deities? "Mahadev". For Mahadev it is depicted that - he turned Kaamdev (a Hindu deity personifying desire) into ashes. People think that - there must have been a deity by the name 'Kaam', and he was turned into ashes. Arey, will God turn the deities into ashes or will He turn the demons into ashes? This ghost of Kaamdev-like desire is present within human beings. Tapaswi Shankar performed the penance of Shiv and had turned that Kaam (sex-lust) into ashes. That sex-lust is present within all of us. Children are born through the assault of sex-lust. The creation (srishti) that takes place, the creation that begins, involves sorrows in the beginning also. The man also feels fatigued (nistej). The woman experiences even more difficulty (pareshaani). There is difficulty even when the child is born. The child also takes birth with cries. The mother also experiences great pain. And when that child grows up, when it becomes old, when the time of death nears, then in the end, one becomes frightened. Am.S.Aha..S.. One becomes frightened, is not it? One experiences so much difficulty in leaving the body. So, the Supreme Soul comes to end such unrighteous creation through the unrighteous organs from the world - which involves pain in the beginning also, in the middle also and in the end also, and establishes the righteous world of deities. The one, who establishes such a righteous world, prepares its kingdom.
Other religious fathers neither established kingship (raajaai) nor kingdom (raajdhaani). God comes and establishes the kingdom of deities, kingship of the world and then departs. The followers of other religious fathers, who existed in the past, desired to rule over the entire world. There were big ambitious persons like Hitler, Napolean, Mussolini; they nurtured the ambition to gain victory over the entire world. But none of them could do so. It is the Rajyog taught by God alone, through which Shankar gets the title of Vishwanath (lord of the world). "Har-har Mahadev Shambho, Kashi Vishwanath Gangey." He gained victory over the entire world through the power of Yoga.
Now God has come again. God is called incorporeal. He does not take birth through a body; He does not take bith through a womb. He is said to be beyond the cycle of birth and death. We human souls enter the cycle of birth and death. We experience pleasures and pains. He neither experiences pleasure nor pain. He is forever a point-like soul. Call it a bindu (point), call it a star, the big form of that star is worshipped especially in the form of a Shivling. He is also called "Jyotirlingam".
He is a resident of the Supreme Abode (Paramdhaam). He is not a resident of the Abode of death (mrityulok). He is a resident of a world situated beyond the Sun, the Moon and the Stars. For e.g. it has been written in the Gita also - "Na tad bhaasyatey Suryo na Shashanko na paavakah. Yat gatwa na nivartantey tad dhaam paramam mam." When I come in this world, and when destruction takes place in this entire world, then all the souls leave their bodies and reach my Supreme Abode, from where they do not return to this land of death.
Now God has come in this world again. He explains the children with a lot of love. He explains in the form of a mother by singing lullabies (lori). Children, now I have come. Have patientce (dheeraj dharo). This sorrow would last some more time. This is your last birth. This is the last birth for the entire world. After this nobody would be born in this land of death, in this Iron-Aged world. The new world, Golden Age is going to arrive. The Iron Age is going to end. He explains nicely. I have come to establish your kingdom. Those who learn Rajyog, those who achieve kingship, would be safe. And those who do not learn Rajyog, those who do not give value to the knowledge, would also be safe, but those people would be safe, who obtain just the message; who do not make efforts, who do not study the complete knowledge. Yes, when the sound spreads in the world that God has come, then they also start galloping. It means that they progress on the basis of compulsion (majboori). They do not have the power to make efforts like the Kings.
So I establish such a small world, where, at the time of destruction 9 lakh stars would shine in the sky. They would shine in the sky - it is not a matter of those non-living stars. They would shine in a high stage. Nobody in the world would be in as high a stage as them. The world would emanate cries of despair (traahi-traahi) at the time of destruction. Mountains of sorrows would fall and they would be wandering carefree (almast). They are not going to experience any kind of sorrow. It has been written in Quraan also - when destrution (kayaamat) takes place, then the men of God would live a life of pleasure. They would not experience any difficulty. The Muslims also believe in a Jannat, i.e. heaven. Christians also believe in a paradise. Hindus also believe in Vaikunth. So certainly the righteous souls selected from every religion obtain, accept the knowledge, the knowledge of Rajyog taught by God; they study the complete knowledge and obtain kingship from God ...(to be continued)
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Extracts of ShivBaba’s Murli [via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit ] – as narrated to the PBKs
VCD No.489, Cass.No.975, dated 3.8.06, Iluavari (Nepal),
Clarification of Murli dated 9.4.67,
Ref. No.VCD-489-Part-IV-Eng.
... God comes and opens the school of Rajyog. He opens a University of Rajyog. In this University, a goal of becoming a King is given. Those Universities belong to human beings; the knowledge of one birth is taught in them. Become a doctor, become an advocate, become an engineer - this knowledge is taught, is not it? For one birth. That too, it is not certain whether we become or do not become. And here God Father gives a guarantee that - if you keep studying this knowledge regularly and punctually, then I have come to give the kingship for 21 births. I would give such a kingship and go, which cannot be taken away from you by anyone. Nobody would be able to attack your kingdom.
I give such a kingdom of Ram and Krishna of Golden Age and Silver Age and then depart. In the Golden Age there is a kingdom of Narayan. It is said, "O Krishna, Narayan, Vasudev." In the Silver Age there is a kingdom of Ram. Who made Narayan a Narayan? The knowledge of Gita made him. God Shiv comes and gives the knowledge of Gita. ... He transforms a man into Narayan and then departs. Whom? Ram. That is why the kingdom of Ram is famous. The kingdom of Narayan is not famous because it is Ram alone who comes and establishes the kingdom of Narayan.
Those souls of Ram and Krishna, which were once deities, are now ordinary human beings. That is why it has been written in Gita - when I come, I come in an ordinary human body. Ignorant (moodhmati) people cannot recognize Me, the God who has come. I come as a Garibniwaaz (caretaker/friend of the poor ones). The poor ones recognize me. The rich ones are unable to recognize me. So, those, who are experiencing sorrows in this world, recognize God, who has come in the form of a Garibniwaaz, soon. Those who think that - we are in a heaven in this world itself; we do not have any sorrows in this world; we have no sorrows related to the body, mind, wealth, time, contacts, relatives - cannot recognize God soon. They do not have any value for the world created by God.
That is why the population of the new world that gets established is very less. On the one hand there are 500-700 crore human beings in today's world and there would be just 9 lakh human beings of the forthcoming new world - which is such a vast difference! That is why 9 lakh stars are praised in the scriptures. The necklace worth 9 lakhs (nau lakha haar) is famous. They are the non-living stars of the sky that radiate non-living shine (chamak). And these are star-like souls - the living stars, who spread in the entire world at the time of destruction and radiate the light of knowledge. They teach that there is no loss involved in the occupation (dhandha) taught by God - receiving Godly knowledge and giving Godly knowledge. All other occupations of the world are going to fail. That is why it is famous - There is loss in all the occupations except one Godly occupation." The occupation, which would be taught by God, would certainly be an imperishable one. The knowledge that God would teach would certainly be an imperishable knowledge. That study is study of Rajyog.
This Rajyog makes one a King (Raja). One can obtain kingship through the power of Yoga. Hitler, Mussolini, Napolean- these people tried to establish kinghship in the entire world on the basis of violence. But it is not a law that someone can win the heart of the entire world by becoming violent. It is only Rajyog; it is the easy knowledge and easy Rajyog, on the basis of which one can win the heart of the entire world. Then it is said - Shankar is said to be Vishwanath, i.e. lord of the world. He becomes the Emperor of the world. He is also called Narayan, whose story is sung in every house in India even today.
When the entire world becomes false at the end of the Iron Age, then the Supreme Soul Shiv enters into that Shankar and enables us to make such efforts, enables us to perform such penance that he becomes Narayan. The knowledge has been given in Gita as to how a man gets transformed into Narayan and how a woman becomes Lakshmi? That knowledge has been given in Gita - O Arjun! You perform such actions that you get transformed from a man to Narayan and O Draupadi! You perform such actions that you get transformed from a woman to Lakshmi.
Now God has come to give that knowledge. He says - human being gets the biggest gift (daat) ever since their birth. Which is the gift that they receive from birth? The Godly gift is received as soon as one takes birth. Do you know - what is that gift? A donation given by God. Don't you know it? Intellect (buddhi). Every human soul receives the Godly gift, the intellect on the basis of the accounts of the past birth or as soon as one takes birth. That intellect, which is a Godly gift, should be used. Every human being should use his or her intellect. It is a gift given by God. If you do not use the thing given by God, then what else would you use? The lokik mother and Father give the body; but who gives the intellect? That is a Godly gift.
So, one gets to hear many kinds of matters in the world. There are many kinds of Gurus, who keep narrating their own story; they keep narrating stories; they keep narrating knowledge. There is a history of 2500 years of these human gurus. The entire world has got degraded while narrating the stories of scriptures, while giving human knowledge. Human mentality has got degraded. Now God says - listen only from me. You have been listening from gurus; you became sinful through that ...(to be continued)
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Note: This is only a draft of the extracts of above-mentioned VCD for favour of information. Only when the translation of the entire Murli contained in this VCD is released, that may be considered as the final version. The words in italics are Hindi words.
VCD No.489, Cass.No.975, dated 3.8.06, Iluavari (Nepal),
Clarification of Murli dated 9.4.67,
Ref. No.VCD-489-Part-IV-Eng.
... God comes and opens the school of Rajyog. He opens a University of Rajyog. In this University, a goal of becoming a King is given. Those Universities belong to human beings; the knowledge of one birth is taught in them. Become a doctor, become an advocate, become an engineer - this knowledge is taught, is not it? For one birth. That too, it is not certain whether we become or do not become. And here God Father gives a guarantee that - if you keep studying this knowledge regularly and punctually, then I have come to give the kingship for 21 births. I would give such a kingship and go, which cannot be taken away from you by anyone. Nobody would be able to attack your kingdom.
I give such a kingdom of Ram and Krishna of Golden Age and Silver Age and then depart. In the Golden Age there is a kingdom of Narayan. It is said, "O Krishna, Narayan, Vasudev." In the Silver Age there is a kingdom of Ram. Who made Narayan a Narayan? The knowledge of Gita made him. God Shiv comes and gives the knowledge of Gita. ... He transforms a man into Narayan and then departs. Whom? Ram. That is why the kingdom of Ram is famous. The kingdom of Narayan is not famous because it is Ram alone who comes and establishes the kingdom of Narayan.
Those souls of Ram and Krishna, which were once deities, are now ordinary human beings. That is why it has been written in Gita - when I come, I come in an ordinary human body. Ignorant (moodhmati) people cannot recognize Me, the God who has come. I come as a Garibniwaaz (caretaker/friend of the poor ones). The poor ones recognize me. The rich ones are unable to recognize me. So, those, who are experiencing sorrows in this world, recognize God, who has come in the form of a Garibniwaaz, soon. Those who think that - we are in a heaven in this world itself; we do not have any sorrows in this world; we have no sorrows related to the body, mind, wealth, time, contacts, relatives - cannot recognize God soon. They do not have any value for the world created by God.
That is why the population of the new world that gets established is very less. On the one hand there are 500-700 crore human beings in today's world and there would be just 9 lakh human beings of the forthcoming new world - which is such a vast difference! That is why 9 lakh stars are praised in the scriptures. The necklace worth 9 lakhs (nau lakha haar) is famous. They are the non-living stars of the sky that radiate non-living shine (chamak). And these are star-like souls - the living stars, who spread in the entire world at the time of destruction and radiate the light of knowledge. They teach that there is no loss involved in the occupation (dhandha) taught by God - receiving Godly knowledge and giving Godly knowledge. All other occupations of the world are going to fail. That is why it is famous - There is loss in all the occupations except one Godly occupation." The occupation, which would be taught by God, would certainly be an imperishable one. The knowledge that God would teach would certainly be an imperishable knowledge. That study is study of Rajyog.
This Rajyog makes one a King (Raja). One can obtain kingship through the power of Yoga. Hitler, Mussolini, Napolean- these people tried to establish kinghship in the entire world on the basis of violence. But it is not a law that someone can win the heart of the entire world by becoming violent. It is only Rajyog; it is the easy knowledge and easy Rajyog, on the basis of which one can win the heart of the entire world. Then it is said - Shankar is said to be Vishwanath, i.e. lord of the world. He becomes the Emperor of the world. He is also called Narayan, whose story is sung in every house in India even today.
When the entire world becomes false at the end of the Iron Age, then the Supreme Soul Shiv enters into that Shankar and enables us to make such efforts, enables us to perform such penance that he becomes Narayan. The knowledge has been given in Gita as to how a man gets transformed into Narayan and how a woman becomes Lakshmi? That knowledge has been given in Gita - O Arjun! You perform such actions that you get transformed from a man to Narayan and O Draupadi! You perform such actions that you get transformed from a woman to Lakshmi.
Now God has come to give that knowledge. He says - human being gets the biggest gift (daat) ever since their birth. Which is the gift that they receive from birth? The Godly gift is received as soon as one takes birth. Do you know - what is that gift? A donation given by God. Don't you know it? Intellect (buddhi). Every human soul receives the Godly gift, the intellect on the basis of the accounts of the past birth or as soon as one takes birth. That intellect, which is a Godly gift, should be used. Every human being should use his or her intellect. It is a gift given by God. If you do not use the thing given by God, then what else would you use? The lokik mother and Father give the body; but who gives the intellect? That is a Godly gift.
So, one gets to hear many kinds of matters in the world. There are many kinds of Gurus, who keep narrating their own story; they keep narrating stories; they keep narrating knowledge. There is a history of 2500 years of these human gurus. The entire world has got degraded while narrating the stories of scriptures, while giving human knowledge. Human mentality has got degraded. Now God says - listen only from me. You have been listening from gurus; you became sinful through that ...(to be continued)
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Extracts of ShivBaba’s Murli [via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit ] – as narrated to the PBKs
VCD No.489, Cass.No.975, dated 3.8.06, Iluavari (Nepal),
Clarification of Murli dated 9.4.67,
Ref. No.VCD-489-Part-V-Eng.
... Now I have come to purify all the sinful ones. Initially it is the intellect that becomes sinful. Mind and intellect are only called soul. How He comes and purifies the mind and intellect - He tells that method (tareeka). The method is very easy - do not consider yourself to be a body. Consider yourself to be a soul. I, the soul, am a star. This star shines in the middle of the forehead, in whose remembrance the bindi (a vermillion mark) is applied in the middle of the forehead. Saints, sages and ascetics apply tilak or teeka. It means that it is not a question of applying a teeka for the sake of showing-off, it is not a question of applying bindi to appear beautiful. It is a matter of becoming constant in a soul conscious stage. Consider yourself to be a soul and observe others also in the form of a soul. He is also a soul, I am also a soul; so, all the differences of opinion (matbhed) of the world regarding status would vanish. Whether someone is a Hindu, a Muslim, a Brahmin, a Bhangi (a scavenger), a King, a pauper (rank), a sick person, a wrestler, what should you observe? I, a soul, am also a star and this soul is also a star. We do not know what it was in the past birth? It could have been a biggest king also. It is not known as to what I was in the past birth? Now we become egotistic that - I am a doctor, I am an engineer, but what was I in the past birth? Nothing is known.
So the first main thing that he tells is - consider yourself to be a soul. I am a star shining in the middle of the forehead. Consider yourself to be a soul and remember Me, the Supreme Soul Father. What should you do? You soul are also a point and I, the Father of point-like souls, the Supreme Father Supreme Soul, am also a point. How will the Father of an ant be? Will he be fat and sturdy? Will he be tall and hefty? Father of an ant will be an ant. Elephant’s Father would be like an elephant. So how would the Father of point-like souls be? The Father of point-like souls would also be a point. The big form of that point is Shivling, which is shown in the temples – in order to worship.
Why is Shivling shown? What is the meaning of Shiv? Shiv means benefactor (kalyaankaari). When He comes in this world, He cannot take birth through a womb (garbh) because He does not have any karmic bondage (karmabandhan) at all. He is an ocean of knowledge. Why will the one, who is an ocean of knowledge, create karmic bondages? Will He create bondages? He will not. So He does not get into the karmic bondages of pleasures and pains; that is why He is always a point. So, then how does He come and narrate knowledge? Muslims say – Allah Miyaan has issued this order. Allah Miyaan has issued that order. Well, how did Allah Miyaan issue orders? Does any sound come from above? Hindus say – Aakaashvani (a sound from the sky or a divine communication) came. Has anyone heard Aakaashvani till now? No. This mouth is full of air. When we speak, the air comes out. This is sky (aakaash). In this sky, the Supreme Soul enters and utters the versions. For e.g. it has been written in Gita – Praveshtum. I am capable of entering (into someone).
So, He tells – I don’t take birth through a womb; but just as the ghosts and devils (bhoot-prait) enter, I can also enter like them. Now the question is – in who should I enter? Can I enter any X, Y, Z? Arey, when Abraham, Buddha, Christ come from above; so, the soul, which comes from above, from the Supreme Abode, from the Abode of God, then will it come and take birth through the jail-like womb (garbhjail)? Will it obtain sustenance for nine months in a world of ******* and urine (go-moot)? No. It has come from the pure Abode; that is why, in the first birth, it enters into someone. Just as Christ entered into (the body of) the soul of Jesus. Similarly, all the religious fathers take birth. A soul comes from above and enters into some or the other sinful body and establishes its religion through that body.
Similarly, when the Supreme Father Supreme Soul also comes in this world, then He enters into some or the other person. Whom will He enter? He must be entering into a sage or a saint or an ascetic. They have performed a lot of penance. Is it not so? Why shouldn’t God enter into a sage or a saint or an ascetic? God comes only to purify the sinful ones. Do the sages and saints, ascetics remain celibate or are they impure? They lead a celibate life. What would He do by entering into them?
God comes in a sinful world only. He does not come in the Golden Age; He does not come in the Silver Age; the world does not become so sinful in the Copper Age also. At the end of the Iron Age, the world becomes very sinful, mootpaleeti (lustful). Nothing except the thoughts of lust settles in the intellect of human being. He comes in such a world. When the human being becomes like this, then the animals and birds also become like that only because human being is a living being which can think and churn; he possesses mind and intellect, so he controls the atmosphere. Animals automatically follow the human beings and the atmosphere. The proof is that – do the animals living in the jungles fall sick more frequently or do the animals living in the houses, villages fall sick more frequently? (Everyone said – those who live in the houses) Why? It is because human being is vicious and therefore falls sick frequently. The animals living in his atmosphere also fall sick frequently.
So God comes in a sinful world; He comes in a sinful body. Well, how can one know, who is sinful, who is the most sinful, degraded one? And who is pure? This world is a drama. In this drama whose part can be the highest one and whose part can be the lowest one? OK, is it not true that the more one rises high, the more one experiences downfall or not? The one who rises high would also fall down. This is a rule. So the actors playing the role of a hero and a heroine of this world; there must be someone; the Supreme Soul enters into that actor who plays the role of a hero and a heroine. In the beginning of the Golden Age, he gets transformed from a man to Narayan, he becomes the master of the entire world and in the end of the Iron Age he becomes a beggar. God comes to transform that beggar into full prince. In whose body does He come? The name of that beggar is very famous. He roams in a beggar form. Who is He? Deity Shankar is depicted in a beggar form.
Brahmakumaris say – He comes in Brahma. Had he come in Brahma then there would have been temples of Brahma; he would have been worshipped in temples; idols have been sculpted in the temples. Are the idols of Brahma sculpted? Is he worshipped? Are temples built for him? They are not. It means that God does not come in the form of Brahma. Brahma has beard and moustaches (daadhi-moonch). Those who possess beard and moustaches are vicious (vikaari). Human beings have beard and moustaches. Demons have beard and moustaches. Deities are clean shaven. That is why God comes in such a person, who is initially sinful and later becomes pure after studying the knowledge of Rajyog. He comes in the most sinful one and transforms him into the purest one and then departs. Would the one, in whom God would enter; the one, whom He would colour with his company, rise high or would anyone else rise high? Will the one, in whom God always enters in a permanent form (mukarrar roop) and narrates versions or perform actions, rise high or would anyone else rise high first? Om Shanti. (Concluded)
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Note: This is only a draft of the extracts of above-mentioned VCD for favour of information. Only when the translation of the entire Murli contained in this VCD is released, that may be considered as the final version. The words in italics are Hindi words.
VCD No.489, Cass.No.975, dated 3.8.06, Iluavari (Nepal),
Clarification of Murli dated 9.4.67,
Ref. No.VCD-489-Part-V-Eng.
... Now I have come to purify all the sinful ones. Initially it is the intellect that becomes sinful. Mind and intellect are only called soul. How He comes and purifies the mind and intellect - He tells that method (tareeka). The method is very easy - do not consider yourself to be a body. Consider yourself to be a soul. I, the soul, am a star. This star shines in the middle of the forehead, in whose remembrance the bindi (a vermillion mark) is applied in the middle of the forehead. Saints, sages and ascetics apply tilak or teeka. It means that it is not a question of applying a teeka for the sake of showing-off, it is not a question of applying bindi to appear beautiful. It is a matter of becoming constant in a soul conscious stage. Consider yourself to be a soul and observe others also in the form of a soul. He is also a soul, I am also a soul; so, all the differences of opinion (matbhed) of the world regarding status would vanish. Whether someone is a Hindu, a Muslim, a Brahmin, a Bhangi (a scavenger), a King, a pauper (rank), a sick person, a wrestler, what should you observe? I, a soul, am also a star and this soul is also a star. We do not know what it was in the past birth? It could have been a biggest king also. It is not known as to what I was in the past birth? Now we become egotistic that - I am a doctor, I am an engineer, but what was I in the past birth? Nothing is known.
So the first main thing that he tells is - consider yourself to be a soul. I am a star shining in the middle of the forehead. Consider yourself to be a soul and remember Me, the Supreme Soul Father. What should you do? You soul are also a point and I, the Father of point-like souls, the Supreme Father Supreme Soul, am also a point. How will the Father of an ant be? Will he be fat and sturdy? Will he be tall and hefty? Father of an ant will be an ant. Elephant’s Father would be like an elephant. So how would the Father of point-like souls be? The Father of point-like souls would also be a point. The big form of that point is Shivling, which is shown in the temples – in order to worship.
Why is Shivling shown? What is the meaning of Shiv? Shiv means benefactor (kalyaankaari). When He comes in this world, He cannot take birth through a womb (garbh) because He does not have any karmic bondage (karmabandhan) at all. He is an ocean of knowledge. Why will the one, who is an ocean of knowledge, create karmic bondages? Will He create bondages? He will not. So He does not get into the karmic bondages of pleasures and pains; that is why He is always a point. So, then how does He come and narrate knowledge? Muslims say – Allah Miyaan has issued this order. Allah Miyaan has issued that order. Well, how did Allah Miyaan issue orders? Does any sound come from above? Hindus say – Aakaashvani (a sound from the sky or a divine communication) came. Has anyone heard Aakaashvani till now? No. This mouth is full of air. When we speak, the air comes out. This is sky (aakaash). In this sky, the Supreme Soul enters and utters the versions. For e.g. it has been written in Gita – Praveshtum. I am capable of entering (into someone).
So, He tells – I don’t take birth through a womb; but just as the ghosts and devils (bhoot-prait) enter, I can also enter like them. Now the question is – in who should I enter? Can I enter any X, Y, Z? Arey, when Abraham, Buddha, Christ come from above; so, the soul, which comes from above, from the Supreme Abode, from the Abode of God, then will it come and take birth through the jail-like womb (garbhjail)? Will it obtain sustenance for nine months in a world of ******* and urine (go-moot)? No. It has come from the pure Abode; that is why, in the first birth, it enters into someone. Just as Christ entered into (the body of) the soul of Jesus. Similarly, all the religious fathers take birth. A soul comes from above and enters into some or the other sinful body and establishes its religion through that body.
Similarly, when the Supreme Father Supreme Soul also comes in this world, then He enters into some or the other person. Whom will He enter? He must be entering into a sage or a saint or an ascetic. They have performed a lot of penance. Is it not so? Why shouldn’t God enter into a sage or a saint or an ascetic? God comes only to purify the sinful ones. Do the sages and saints, ascetics remain celibate or are they impure? They lead a celibate life. What would He do by entering into them?
God comes in a sinful world only. He does not come in the Golden Age; He does not come in the Silver Age; the world does not become so sinful in the Copper Age also. At the end of the Iron Age, the world becomes very sinful, mootpaleeti (lustful). Nothing except the thoughts of lust settles in the intellect of human being. He comes in such a world. When the human being becomes like this, then the animals and birds also become like that only because human being is a living being which can think and churn; he possesses mind and intellect, so he controls the atmosphere. Animals automatically follow the human beings and the atmosphere. The proof is that – do the animals living in the jungles fall sick more frequently or do the animals living in the houses, villages fall sick more frequently? (Everyone said – those who live in the houses) Why? It is because human being is vicious and therefore falls sick frequently. The animals living in his atmosphere also fall sick frequently.
So God comes in a sinful world; He comes in a sinful body. Well, how can one know, who is sinful, who is the most sinful, degraded one? And who is pure? This world is a drama. In this drama whose part can be the highest one and whose part can be the lowest one? OK, is it not true that the more one rises high, the more one experiences downfall or not? The one who rises high would also fall down. This is a rule. So the actors playing the role of a hero and a heroine of this world; there must be someone; the Supreme Soul enters into that actor who plays the role of a hero and a heroine. In the beginning of the Golden Age, he gets transformed from a man to Narayan, he becomes the master of the entire world and in the end of the Iron Age he becomes a beggar. God comes to transform that beggar into full prince. In whose body does He come? The name of that beggar is very famous. He roams in a beggar form. Who is He? Deity Shankar is depicted in a beggar form.
Brahmakumaris say – He comes in Brahma. Had he come in Brahma then there would have been temples of Brahma; he would have been worshipped in temples; idols have been sculpted in the temples. Are the idols of Brahma sculpted? Is he worshipped? Are temples built for him? They are not. It means that God does not come in the form of Brahma. Brahma has beard and moustaches (daadhi-moonch). Those who possess beard and moustaches are vicious (vikaari). Human beings have beard and moustaches. Demons have beard and moustaches. Deities are clean shaven. That is why God comes in such a person, who is initially sinful and later becomes pure after studying the knowledge of Rajyog. He comes in the most sinful one and transforms him into the purest one and then departs. Would the one, in whom God would enter; the one, whom He would colour with his company, rise high or would anyone else rise high? Will the one, in whom God always enters in a permanent form (mukarrar roop) and narrates versions or perform actions, rise high or would anyone else rise high first? Om Shanti. (Concluded)
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Note: This is only a draft of the extracts of above-mentioned VCD for favour of information. Only when the translation of the entire Murli contained in this VCD is released, that may be considered as the final version. The words in italics are Hindi words.
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