Dear brothers.
In Bhakti-marg it is commonly said : "Yeh sara sansar hai Bhagwan ki Maya and Bhagwan ki Leela"....Bhagats use the words "Maya and Leela" with generally the same meaning, but i feel that there is a definite subtle difference between the two.
Sharing some thoughts about "Maya and Leela."
shivsena.
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Differences between Maya and Leela.
Maya is darkness (Brahma ki raat)----Leela is light (Brahma ka din)
Maya is Brahma---Leela is Vishnu.
Maya is ignorance---Leela is enlightenment.
Maya is illusion ---- Leela is reality.
Maya means body-consciousness---Leela means soul-consciousness (numberwise).
Maya is diversity (different views-religions--philosophies)-----Leela is unity (one brotherhood under one Father )
Maya is bondage(Maya-jaal)---Leela is freedom.(jeevan-mukti)
Maya is jhoot khand (falsehood )--Leela is sachkhand.
Maya means mrityu-lok(sufferings)---Leela means amar-lok.(end of suffering)
Maya gives birth to speculations-discussions-debates-disputes ----Leela ends all speculations and disputes.
When Maya ends, Leela begins.
When there is Maya there is no Leela, and when there is Leela there is no Maya.
Maya lasts for 2500 years but Leela seems eternal.
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From the above differences it is clear that all the 3 worlds are living under a mayavi illusion....and when Bhagwan ki Leela unfolds in the near future, then there will be no questions asked nor answered.....the absolute truth(Leela) will be self-evident.
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Who is Godly-form of Maya ??
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Sharing some fascinating facts about "Who was shukra-charya" and what were his evil qualities. A few years ago, i remembered seeing a Hindi serial "Maa Adi-shakti" in which i saw a few episodes of shukracharya(detya-guru) who was shown challenging Devi-shakti and trying to encourage the detya (asur) community to attack the devtas to capture heaven.....a few days ago i happened to search on 'google' by typing the word "shukra-charya" and i was amazed to find the following facts in a few articles on shukra-charya...and i was even more amazed by the similarities between what was written and what is happening in the Advance Party in Sangamyug.
shivsena.
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Who is shukracharya ??
In the Indian tradition, Shukracharya is remembered as a great scholar...a sorcerer, astrologer, sex guru.
Shukracharya was Guru of the entire Demon (Rakshas, Asur, shaitan, devil etc) Community and an ardent devotee of Shiva...Shukracharya was born from lord Shiva's sperm(shukra), that's why the name shukrachrya(acharya means guru).
....SHUKRACHARYA knew many black magical rites to equip his followers( Evil Hindus) with lots of MAGICAL powers against DEVOUT Hindus. He used to help all evil souls to conquer heaven through his magical power and by his sanjivini vidya knowledge he use to give life to all dead evil souls. Evil minded Hindus revered him a lot (as their MASTER) due to his evil qualities of black magic, fortelling etc. He was a famous astrologer who used to FORETELL future of his evil followers.
...He was also a SEMEN(love) GURU, who may have taught lots of love /sex tips to hold semen while love making. ....He was titled as SHUKRACHARYA after the name of planet Venus(SHUKRA) because Shukra(venus) is the only planet where sun rises from west because it rotates in opposite direction. Ask any Muslim that who is "Shukra" to whom they often mention as "Allah ka Shukra hai" or "Shukria" and consider "Shukrawar"( Friday) as an auspicious day,.....the answer is: "Shukra" is the teacher/mentor of Rakshas(demons) who has always misguided demons to destroy all Godly things.
....According to Bible also, Satan(shukracharya) was exiled from heaven on Friday only.... "Vishnu Puraan" also confirms the same that Shukra left heaven and become teacher of demons.
Differences in practices of Muslim religion and Hindu religion.
....Muslims started doing opposite of Hindu religion.....Hindus worship Sun, East, Guru, and regard Cow as sacred, while Muslims worship Moon, West, Shukra and slaughter Cow.
....Hindus write left to right, take clockwise circum-ambulance(parikrama) in temple, consider cremating place as unholy.... while Muslims write right to left, take anticlockwise circum-ambulance and consider cemetary as holy place.
....Hindus follow "Puraan" while Muslims follow "Kuraan".
....Hindus believe in "OM"(O-Mother ie brahma--badi Maa )and Muslims believe in "786"(Number)
This is the reason why Muslims don't respect any other religion, because Shukra-charya has done fool proofing through "Shariat".(the code of conduct or religious law of Islam. )
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Let all PBKs search on the internet for more articles which describe shukra-charya and read-churn-decide for themselves who is the practical shukra-charya in the behad ka Sangamyugi world, in whose rememberence the articles on shukra-charya are written in Bhakti-marg.
Murlis also describe shukra-charya in the following words : "Shankra-charya hatyog sikhlata hai aur Shiva-charya rajyog sikhlate hain." [ "shankracharya(bodily guru) teaches hatyoga (bodily Yoga ie. to remember shiv in a human body) and shivacharya teaches RajYoga."]
shivsena.
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Sharing some fascinating facts about "Who was shukra-charya" and what were his evil qualities. A few years ago, i remembered seeing a Hindi serial "Maa Adi-shakti" in which i saw a few episodes of shukracharya(detya-guru) who was shown challenging Devi-shakti and trying to encourage the detya (asur) community to attack the devtas to capture heaven.....a few days ago i happened to search on 'google' by typing the word "shukra-charya" and i was amazed to find the following facts in a few articles on shukra-charya...and i was even more amazed by the similarities between what was written and what is happening in the Advance Party in Sangamyug.
shivsena.
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Who is shukracharya ??
In the Indian tradition, Shukracharya is remembered as a great scholar...a sorcerer, astrologer, sex guru.
Shukracharya was Guru of the entire Demon (Rakshas, Asur, shaitan, devil etc) Community and an ardent devotee of Shiva...Shukracharya was born from lord Shiva's sperm(shukra), that's why the name shukrachrya(acharya means guru).
....SHUKRACHARYA knew many black magical rites to equip his followers( Evil Hindus) with lots of MAGICAL powers against DEVOUT Hindus. He used to help all evil souls to conquer heaven through his magical power and by his sanjivini vidya knowledge he use to give life to all dead evil souls. Evil minded Hindus revered him a lot (as their MASTER) due to his evil qualities of black magic, fortelling etc. He was a famous astrologer who used to FORETELL future of his evil followers.
...He was also a SEMEN(love) GURU, who may have taught lots of love /sex tips to hold semen while love making. ....He was titled as SHUKRACHARYA after the name of planet Venus(SHUKRA) because Shukra(venus) is the only planet where sun rises from west because it rotates in opposite direction. Ask any Muslim that who is "Shukra" to whom they often mention as "Allah ka Shukra hai" or "Shukria" and consider "Shukrawar"( Friday) as an auspicious day,.....the answer is: "Shukra" is the teacher/mentor of Rakshas(demons) who has always misguided demons to destroy all Godly things.
....According to Bible also, Satan(shukracharya) was exiled from heaven on Friday only.... "Vishnu Puraan" also confirms the same that Shukra left heaven and become teacher of demons.
Differences in practices of Muslim religion and Hindu religion.
....Muslims started doing opposite of Hindu religion.....Hindus worship Sun, East, Guru, and regard Cow as sacred, while Muslims worship Moon, West, Shukra and slaughter Cow.
....Hindus write left to right, take clockwise circum-ambulance(parikrama) in temple, consider cremating place as unholy.... while Muslims write right to left, take anticlockwise circum-ambulance and consider cemetary as holy place.
....Hindus follow "Puraan" while Muslims follow "Kuraan".
....Hindus believe in "OM"(O-Mother ie brahma--badi Maa )and Muslims believe in "786"(Number)
This is the reason why Muslims don't respect any other religion, because Shukra-charya has done fool proofing through "Shariat".(the code of conduct or religious law of Islam. )
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Let all PBKs search on the internet for more articles which describe shukra-charya and read-churn-decide for themselves who is the practical shukra-charya in the behad ka Sangamyugi world, in whose rememberence the articles on shukra-charya are written in Bhakti-marg.
Murlis also describe shukra-charya in the following words : "Shankra-charya hatyog sikhlata hai aur Shiva-charya rajyog sikhlate hain." [ "shankracharya(bodily guru) teaches hatyoga (bodily Yoga ie. to remember shiv in a human body) and shivacharya teaches RajYoga."]
shivsena.
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To all truth-seeking PBKs.
It has been mentioned in Murlis that whatever happens in Sangamyug in practical is remembered in Bhakti-marg as stories.
Sharing a small anecdote below about who was narakasur and the stricking resemblence of the anecdote to what is happening in the advance-party.
shivsena
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Narakasura And His Sixteen Thousand Imprisoned Gopikas.
"The capital of the kingdom ruled by Narakasura was known as 'Prag-jyoti-sha-puram'. The name consists of four syllables: Prag, Jyoti, Sha and Puram. 'Prag' means before, 'Jyoti' means light, 'Sha' refers to forgetting. The inner meaning of this name is that the inhabitants of this city have forgotten the ancient and eternal light (Atma Jyoti). Narakasura, the king of Prag-jyoti-sha-puram had totally forgotten the Atmic Principle, identifying himself with the body, leading a life full of ignorance(darkness). Attachment to the body is the main cause for all sufferings. [ This principle seems to have been completely forgotten in Advance knowledge. ]
Narakasura committed many sins in his life. He imprisoned thousands of women and tortured them. They were the sixteen thousands Gopikas. They could neither live nor die. But Naraka could not be easily killed as he had a boon that he could face death only at the hands of his mother Bhudevi. So, Krishna asks his wife Satyabhama, the reincarnation of Bhudevi, to be his charioteer in the battle with Naraka.
When Krishna feigns unconciousness after being hit by an arrow of Naraka, Satyabhama takes the bow and aims the arrow at Naraka and kills him instantly. Hence Diwali day is known as naraka-chaturdasi and the message of Naraka Chaturdasi(Diwali) is the victory of truth over falsehood....victory of good over evil and enlightenment of souls(symbolically celebrated by lighting earthenware lamps--divas.)
After Narakasura was killed, Krishna freed the gopikas from prison and asked them to return to their respective homes after being prisoners of Narakasura. They said, 'Krishna was their only refuge and prayed that he should take care of them". Krishna agreed to take responsibility of protecting them.
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The important point to be churned in the above anecdote is to identify who is this Narakasura in the behad ka drama, who imprisoned 16000 gopikas and in whose rememberence 2nd diwali day is celebrated as Naraka-chaturdasi in Bhakti-marg.
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It has been mentioned in Murlis that whatever happens in Sangamyug in practical is remembered in Bhakti-marg as stories.
Sharing a small anecdote below about who was narakasur and the stricking resemblence of the anecdote to what is happening in the advance-party.
shivsena
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Narakasura And His Sixteen Thousand Imprisoned Gopikas.
"The capital of the kingdom ruled by Narakasura was known as 'Prag-jyoti-sha-puram'. The name consists of four syllables: Prag, Jyoti, Sha and Puram. 'Prag' means before, 'Jyoti' means light, 'Sha' refers to forgetting. The inner meaning of this name is that the inhabitants of this city have forgotten the ancient and eternal light (Atma Jyoti). Narakasura, the king of Prag-jyoti-sha-puram had totally forgotten the Atmic Principle, identifying himself with the body, leading a life full of ignorance(darkness). Attachment to the body is the main cause for all sufferings. [ This principle seems to have been completely forgotten in Advance knowledge. ]
Narakasura committed many sins in his life. He imprisoned thousands of women and tortured them. They were the sixteen thousands Gopikas. They could neither live nor die. But Naraka could not be easily killed as he had a boon that he could face death only at the hands of his mother Bhudevi. So, Krishna asks his wife Satyabhama, the reincarnation of Bhudevi, to be his charioteer in the battle with Naraka.
When Krishna feigns unconciousness after being hit by an arrow of Naraka, Satyabhama takes the bow and aims the arrow at Naraka and kills him instantly. Hence Diwali day is known as naraka-chaturdasi and the message of Naraka Chaturdasi(Diwali) is the victory of truth over falsehood....victory of good over evil and enlightenment of souls(symbolically celebrated by lighting earthenware lamps--divas.)
After Narakasura was killed, Krishna freed the gopikas from prison and asked them to return to their respective homes after being prisoners of Narakasura. They said, 'Krishna was their only refuge and prayed that he should take care of them". Krishna agreed to take responsibility of protecting them.
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The important point to be churned in the above anecdote is to identify who is this Narakasura in the behad ka drama, who imprisoned 16000 gopikas and in whose rememberence 2nd diwali day is celebrated as Naraka-chaturdasi in Bhakti-marg.
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Re: Who is Maya ???
To all truth-seeking PBKs.
Murli 26-1-67 says: "Maya aisi hai jo tum bacchon ko apas mein ladva deti hai."
["Maya is such that it makes you children fight one another."]
In the above Murli in 1967, shiv is clearly emerging the future role of Baba Dixit(mayavi partdhari) who will invent ambigious advance knowledge and make the children (BKs-PBKs and ex-PBKs) fight one another with weapons of knowledge.
shivsena.
Murli 26-1-67 says: "Maya aisi hai jo tum bacchon ko apas mein ladva deti hai."
["Maya is such that it makes you children fight one another."]
In the above Murli in 1967, shiv is clearly emerging the future role of Baba Dixit(mayavi partdhari) who will invent ambigious advance knowledge and make the children (BKs-PBKs and ex-PBKs) fight one another with weapons of knowledge.
shivsena.
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Sharing a very interesting Murli point.
Murli 20-12-99 says: "Tumko(108) vishwa ki badshahi milti hai toh (ishwariya) Maya kitna opposition karti hai. (ishwariya)Maya kitne acche-acche bacchon (PBKs) ko happ kar leti hai....ekdam khaa leti hai.... Sarp(snake) medak(frog) ko ekdam sara ka sara hap kar leta hai...(ishwariya) Maya bhi aisi hai...(pbk)bacchon ko jeete ji pakadkar ekdam khatam kar deti hai, jo phir kabhi Bap(combined mat-pita shivshakti) ka naam bhi nahin lete."
[meaning: "You(108) get kingship of the world, so Maya(Godly form) opposes you a lot...(Godly)Maya has swallowed many good children(PBKs)...it swallows them whole....just as a snake swallows a frog fully, so also (Godly) Maya is like this.....it catches the children (PBKs) alive and fully swallows them, so that they (PBKs) never take the name of Father. (combined mat-pita shivshakti--jagdamba) ]
The above point clearly directed to the potential 108 souls only, describes a Godly Maya which invents advance knowledge and swallows the intellect of PBKs fully, just as a snake swallows the frog fully.
The above point also clearly proves that whenever the words "Tum bacche" or "tum" it is used always to refer only 108 Gyani-shivshakti souls, who have identified no. 1 shivshakti as their combined mat-pita(ALAF)
shivsena.
Sharing a very interesting Murli point.
Murli 20-12-99 says: "Tumko(108) vishwa ki badshahi milti hai toh (ishwariya) Maya kitna opposition karti hai. (ishwariya)Maya kitne acche-acche bacchon (PBKs) ko happ kar leti hai....ekdam khaa leti hai.... Sarp(snake) medak(frog) ko ekdam sara ka sara hap kar leta hai...(ishwariya) Maya bhi aisi hai...(pbk)bacchon ko jeete ji pakadkar ekdam khatam kar deti hai, jo phir kabhi Bap(combined mat-pita shivshakti) ka naam bhi nahin lete."
[meaning: "You(108) get kingship of the world, so Maya(Godly form) opposes you a lot...(Godly)Maya has swallowed many good children(PBKs)...it swallows them whole....just as a snake swallows a frog fully, so also (Godly) Maya is like this.....it catches the children (PBKs) alive and fully swallows them, so that they (PBKs) never take the name of Father. (combined mat-pita shivshakti--jagdamba) ]
The above point clearly directed to the potential 108 souls only, describes a Godly Maya which invents advance knowledge and swallows the intellect of PBKs fully, just as a snake swallows the frog fully.
The above point also clearly proves that whenever the words "Tum bacche" or "tum" it is used always to refer only 108 Gyani-shivshakti souls, who have identified no. 1 shivshakti as their combined mat-pita(ALAF)
shivsena.
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Sharing an interesting Murli point about "Maya".
Murli 3-5-72 says: "Maya Shrimat ko badal kar, mann ko mix kar, usko hi Shrimat samajne ki buddhi deti hai; Maya ke vash manmat ko bhi Shrimat samajne lag padte hain; issliye parakhne ki shakti sadev kaam mein lagaao; kahan parakhne mein bhi antar hone se apne aap ko nuksaan kar dete."
[meaning: "Maya changes Shrimat and mixes it with her own and gives it as Shrimat; under the influence of Maya, manmat is also interpreted as Shrimat and so the power of discrimination should always be used; if this power is not correctly used, then it leads to a loss."]
The above Murli point clearly points to a very subtle personified Godly form of Maya who mixes her own manmat(advance knowledge) with Shrimat and instructs the souls to follow it as Shrimat ....but this has to be judged by each soul by his own power of discrimination as to what is true and what is false.
shivsena.
Sharing an interesting Murli point about "Maya".
Murli 3-5-72 says: "Maya Shrimat ko badal kar, mann ko mix kar, usko hi Shrimat samajne ki buddhi deti hai; Maya ke vash manmat ko bhi Shrimat samajne lag padte hain; issliye parakhne ki shakti sadev kaam mein lagaao; kahan parakhne mein bhi antar hone se apne aap ko nuksaan kar dete."
[meaning: "Maya changes Shrimat and mixes it with her own and gives it as Shrimat; under the influence of Maya, manmat is also interpreted as Shrimat and so the power of discrimination should always be used; if this power is not correctly used, then it leads to a loss."]
The above Murli point clearly points to a very subtle personified Godly form of Maya who mixes her own manmat(advance knowledge) with Shrimat and instructs the souls to follow it as Shrimat ....but this has to be judged by each soul by his own power of discrimination as to what is true and what is false.
shivsena.
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Re: Who is Maya ???
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Avaykt Vani dated 5-12-70 says: "Maya badi chatur hai. Maya apna ati-sukhma roop bhi dharan karti hai."
[Meaning : "Maya is very clever. Maya takes a very subtle form." ]
Who is this very subtle (Godly ) personified form of Maya who is very clever and creates an illusion that whatever he speaks is nothing but the truth, but in reality it is avidya (ignorance)....and avaykt Brahma (Mama) is warning the potential 108 souls to be aware about this very subtle Godly form of Maya.
shivsena.
Avaykt Vani dated 5-12-70 says: "Maya badi chatur hai. Maya apna ati-sukhma roop bhi dharan karti hai."
[Meaning : "Maya is very clever. Maya takes a very subtle form." ]
Who is this very subtle (Godly ) personified form of Maya who is very clever and creates an illusion that whatever he speaks is nothing but the truth, but in reality it is avidya (ignorance)....and avaykt Brahma (Mama) is warning the potential 108 souls to be aware about this very subtle Godly form of Maya.
shivsena.
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To all truth-seeking PBKs.
Murli dated 25-10-08 says: " Bap se preet rakhne mein Maya bahut vigna dalti hai...ekdam muu phira deti hai."
[meaning: "(Godly)Maya creates obstacles to have love with the Father(combined shivshakti)....it virtually turns the face in opposite direction."]
The above point clearly says that Godly Maya creates obstacles in the form of advance knowledge to know and to love our true spiritual parents (combined mat-pita no. 1 shivshakti--Mama jagdamba.)....and by teaching the PBKs to to remember shiv in physical body, Maya virtually turns the intellect of PBKs in opposite direction to what is taught in avaykt Vanis by Mama(avaykt brahma).
The biggest obstacle(vigna) on the way to reach 108, is advance knowledge...and this obstacle has to be crossed by all BKs-PBKs aspiring to be in 108....and those who cross this obstacle will be remembered in Bhakti-marg as ganesh (parvati putra----vigna vinashak---destroyer of obstacles).
shivsena.
Murli dated 25-10-08 says: " Bap se preet rakhne mein Maya bahut vigna dalti hai...ekdam muu phira deti hai."
[meaning: "(Godly)Maya creates obstacles to have love with the Father(combined shivshakti)....it virtually turns the face in opposite direction."]
The above point clearly says that Godly Maya creates obstacles in the form of advance knowledge to know and to love our true spiritual parents (combined mat-pita no. 1 shivshakti--Mama jagdamba.)....and by teaching the PBKs to to remember shiv in physical body, Maya virtually turns the intellect of PBKs in opposite direction to what is taught in avaykt Vanis by Mama(avaykt brahma).
The biggest obstacle(vigna) on the way to reach 108, is advance knowledge...and this obstacle has to be crossed by all BKs-PBKs aspiring to be in 108....and those who cross this obstacle will be remembered in Bhakti-marg as ganesh (parvati putra----vigna vinashak---destroyer of obstacles).
shivsena.
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To all truth-seeking PBKs.
In the recent Vani dated 15-11-11 (towards the end of the Vani page 3) avaykt brahma-Mama is hinting about personified Maya to potential 108 souls:
"Whatever happens, whatever circumstances happen, Maya will show its (Godly) form...(Godly)Maya's job is to confront you(with false advance knowledge) and your(108) job is to win over it.....BapDada is telling you before hand, because (Godly)Maya is also listening, she is also clever, but however clever (Godly)Maya is, you(108) are the companion of omnipotent (Mama ShivBaba), then what can (Godly)Maya do".
The above Vani point will be understood only by those souls, who understand who is speaking the avaykt Vanis.....BKs-PBKs (who think that avaykt Brahma is Lekhraj Kirpalani) will interpret Maya as 5 vices.....while only the potential 108 who have identified who is avaykt brahma and the Godly form of Maya, will interpret the above point differently. ("Bhakti-marg and Gyan-marg beliefs are totally different")
shivsena.
In the recent Vani dated 15-11-11 (towards the end of the Vani page 3) avaykt brahma-Mama is hinting about personified Maya to potential 108 souls:
"Whatever happens, whatever circumstances happen, Maya will show its (Godly) form...(Godly)Maya's job is to confront you(with false advance knowledge) and your(108) job is to win over it.....BapDada is telling you before hand, because (Godly)Maya is also listening, she is also clever, but however clever (Godly)Maya is, you(108) are the companion of omnipotent (Mama ShivBaba), then what can (Godly)Maya do".
The above Vani point will be understood only by those souls, who understand who is speaking the avaykt Vanis.....BKs-PBKs (who think that avaykt Brahma is Lekhraj Kirpalani) will interpret Maya as 5 vices.....while only the potential 108 who have identified who is avaykt brahma and the Godly form of Maya, will interpret the above point differently. ("Bhakti-marg and Gyan-marg beliefs are totally different")
shivsena.
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Please read the avaykt Vani point below and judge yourself who is Maya??
Avaykt Vani 7-5-2000 ( revised 13-11-81); page 1;
''Paramarth-marg mein vigna-vinashak banane ka sadhan hai: Maya ko parakhana aur parakhane ke baad nirnaya karna; na parakhane ke karan hi bhin-bhin Maya ke roopon ko door se bhaga nahin sakte ho; paramarthy bacchon ke samne Maya bhi royal Ishwariya roop rach karke aati hai, jisco parakhane ke liye ekagrata ki shakti chahiye aur ekagrat ki shakti silence ki shakti se prapt hoti hai.''
''Vartaman samay brahman atma mein teevragati ka parivartan kum hai, kyon ki Maya ke royal Ishwariya rolled gold ko real gold samaj lete hain... parakhane ki shakti ki kamee se Maya ke royal roop ko real samaj lete; parakhane ki shakti na hone ke karan yatharth nirnay nahin kar sakte.''
Translation: ''On the road of God-realisation, the means to overcome obstacles is to recognise Maya and after recognising take the decision. When you cannot recognise, then you cannot chase away the various forms of Maya; In front of children, Maya comes in royal Godly form and to recognise this form you must have attention and concentration and this is achieved by remaining in silence.''
''In the present time, there is lack of speedy effort by Brahmins, because they(PBKs) have mistaken the royal Godly rolled gold form to real gold... because of lack of discriminating power, the royal form of Maya has been seen as real and because of lack of discriminating power, practical decision cannot be made.''
In the above Vani, avaykt Brahma(Mama) is clearly giving hints to potential 108 king souls, that the royal Ishwariya rolled gold form of Maya (through Baba Dixit ) is going on in the Advance Party and this has to be recognised, if the (true-108)Brahmins have to do a speedy effort.
There are many more points in Vanis which will prove without any doubt, that Baba Dixit has been given the role of Godly Maya, to pave obstacles in the path of those who are aspiring to come in 108, and only those who recognise and decide to fight it with weapons of knowledge will eventually be labelled as 108 mayajeet-jagatjeet children and will be remembered in Bhakti-marg as vigna-vinashak Ganesh .
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Please read the avaykt Vani point below and judge yourself who is Maya??
Avaykt Vani 7-5-2000 ( revised 13-11-81); page 1;
''Paramarth-marg mein vigna-vinashak banane ka sadhan hai: Maya ko parakhana aur parakhane ke baad nirnaya karna; na parakhane ke karan hi bhin-bhin Maya ke roopon ko door se bhaga nahin sakte ho; paramarthy bacchon ke samne Maya bhi royal Ishwariya roop rach karke aati hai, jisco parakhane ke liye ekagrata ki shakti chahiye aur ekagrat ki shakti silence ki shakti se prapt hoti hai.''
''Vartaman samay brahman atma mein teevragati ka parivartan kum hai, kyon ki Maya ke royal Ishwariya rolled gold ko real gold samaj lete hain... parakhane ki shakti ki kamee se Maya ke royal roop ko real samaj lete; parakhane ki shakti na hone ke karan yatharth nirnay nahin kar sakte.''
Translation: ''On the road of God-realisation, the means to overcome obstacles is to recognise Maya and after recognising take the decision. When you cannot recognise, then you cannot chase away the various forms of Maya; In front of children, Maya comes in royal Godly form and to recognise this form you must have attention and concentration and this is achieved by remaining in silence.''
''In the present time, there is lack of speedy effort by Brahmins, because they(PBKs) have mistaken the royal Godly rolled gold form to real gold... because of lack of discriminating power, the royal form of Maya has been seen as real and because of lack of discriminating power, practical decision cannot be made.''
In the above Vani, avaykt Brahma(Mama) is clearly giving hints to potential 108 king souls, that the royal Ishwariya rolled gold form of Maya (through Baba Dixit ) is going on in the Advance Party and this has to be recognised, if the (true-108)Brahmins have to do a speedy effort.
There are many more points in Vanis which will prove without any doubt, that Baba Dixit has been given the role of Godly Maya, to pave obstacles in the path of those who are aspiring to come in 108, and only those who recognise and decide to fight it with weapons of knowledge will eventually be labelled as 108 mayajeet-jagatjeet children and will be remembered in Bhakti-marg as vigna-vinashak Ganesh .
shivsena.
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Re: Who is Maya ???
To all truth-seeking PBKs.
Sharing a very important Vani point on Maya.
Avaykt Vani 23-12-94 says : " Follow Father hai na...yaa follow Maya hai ?? Kabhi Maya bhi mother-Father ban jaati, badi acchi palna aur prapti karati, lekin woh sab hai dhoke ki prapti. Pahele prapti, phir dhoka; parakhne ki shakti toh hai naa?? Maya hai yaa Bap issko samay par parakhna. "
[meaning: " Is it follow Father or follow Maya ?? sometimes Maya also becomes mother-Father and gives good sustainence, but all that is betrayal. First sustainence then betrayal; do you not have discriminating power ?? is it Maya or Father, first discriminate between the two."]
The above Vani point clearly warns that there is a personified Godly Maya who first gives sustainence as mother-Father and then betrays and one has to have the power of discrimination to identify whether it(Baba dixit) is Godly Maya's role or Father's role.
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Sharing a very important Vani point on Maya.
Avaykt Vani 23-12-94 says : " Follow Father hai na...yaa follow Maya hai ?? Kabhi Maya bhi mother-Father ban jaati, badi acchi palna aur prapti karati, lekin woh sab hai dhoke ki prapti. Pahele prapti, phir dhoka; parakhne ki shakti toh hai naa?? Maya hai yaa Bap issko samay par parakhna. "
[meaning: " Is it follow Father or follow Maya ?? sometimes Maya also becomes mother-Father and gives good sustainence, but all that is betrayal. First sustainence then betrayal; do you not have discriminating power ?? is it Maya or Father, first discriminate between the two."]
The above Vani point clearly warns that there is a personified Godly Maya who first gives sustainence as mother-Father and then betrays and one has to have the power of discrimination to identify whether it(Baba dixit) is Godly Maya's role or Father's role.
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Re: Who is Godly-form of Maya ???
To all truth-seeking PBKs.
Murli 10-4-2000 says: "Maya badi tej hai...Kitna samjaya jaata hai ki deh ke saath preet mat rakho, naam roop mein mat fanso..parantu Maya bhi aisi hai, jo naam-roop mein fansa deti hai....ek dam naak se pakad leti hai..pataa bhi nahin padta...Ravan ki mat jhat buddhi mein aa jaati hai...Ravan jail se chodta nahin."
[" Maya is very fast(clever)..However much it is explained (to PBKs) that do not have any attachment for the body(of Baba Dixit)..do not get trapped in the name and form, but Maya is such that it (baba dixit's role) traps (PBKs) in bodily form and name...it (Godly Maya ) catches (the PBKs) by the nose(false ego), that they do not even come to know....Ravan's mat(advance knowledge) at once comes in their intellect...Ravan does not leave any(pbk) from its jail."]
The above point clearly describes the state of the AIVV at present, where the Godly Maya traps the PBKs into the name and form of Baba Dixit, that they do not even come to know that they have been trapped by the Godly-form of Maya...and when this is explained to them, then the advance clarifications immediately come in their intellect and the subtle Murli and Vani directions are completely ignored.
shivsena.
Murli 10-4-2000 says: "Maya badi tej hai...Kitna samjaya jaata hai ki deh ke saath preet mat rakho, naam roop mein mat fanso..parantu Maya bhi aisi hai, jo naam-roop mein fansa deti hai....ek dam naak se pakad leti hai..pataa bhi nahin padta...Ravan ki mat jhat buddhi mein aa jaati hai...Ravan jail se chodta nahin."
[" Maya is very fast(clever)..However much it is explained (to PBKs) that do not have any attachment for the body(of Baba Dixit)..do not get trapped in the name and form, but Maya is such that it (baba dixit's role) traps (PBKs) in bodily form and name...it (Godly Maya ) catches (the PBKs) by the nose(false ego), that they do not even come to know....Ravan's mat(advance knowledge) at once comes in their intellect...Ravan does not leave any(pbk) from its jail."]
The above point clearly describes the state of the AIVV at present, where the Godly Maya traps the PBKs into the name and form of Baba Dixit, that they do not even come to know that they have been trapped by the Godly-form of Maya...and when this is explained to them, then the advance clarifications immediately come in their intellect and the subtle Murli and Vani directions are completely ignored.
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Re: Who is shaitan--satan--ravan--devil ??
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A very simple point regarding Ravan and Ram.
Murli 20-1-05 says, "Gaaya hua hai: sang taare ku-sang bore; Ab Ravan ka sang bore, Ram ka sang taare.... Yeh ek khel hai."
[meaning: "It has been sung: Good company takes you across and bad company sinks you. Now Ravan's company (AIVV 's jhooti Gita) sinks you and Ram's company (Intellectual union with Ramshivbaba Mama by following avaykt Vanis ) will take you across (as angels). This is a play."]
The above Murli point is describing the Sangamyugi drama as a play of Ram and Ravan and one has to discriminate who is Ramshivbaba (who takes souls in chadti-kalaa ) and who is Ravan.(whose company takes souls in girti-kalaa.)
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A very simple point regarding Ravan and Ram.
Murli 20-1-05 says, "Gaaya hua hai: sang taare ku-sang bore; Ab Ravan ka sang bore, Ram ka sang taare.... Yeh ek khel hai."
[meaning: "It has been sung: Good company takes you across and bad company sinks you. Now Ravan's company (AIVV 's jhooti Gita) sinks you and Ram's company (Intellectual union with Ramshivbaba Mama by following avaykt Vanis ) will take you across (as angels). This is a play."]
The above Murli point is describing the Sangamyugi drama as a play of Ram and Ravan and one has to discriminate who is Ramshivbaba (who takes souls in chadti-kalaa ) and who is Ravan.(whose company takes souls in girti-kalaa.)
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Re: Who is Godly-form of Maya ???
To all truth-seeking PBKs.
Please read the Vani below and you will be surprised that avaykt Brahma(Mama) has given many subtle hints about the future role of Godly Maya and how to pass these exams way back in 1969.
Avaykt Vani 26-5-69 ( page 66 )
"Ek aur vishesh baat. Ab bahut roop se, atma ke roop se, sharir ke roop se, aap sabhi ko behkhane wale bahut roop samne aayenge, lekin usme behakna nahin hai. Bahut pariksha aayengi. Pariksha mein pass kaun ho sakta hai?? jisco parakh puri hogi; parakhane ki shakti jitni hogi utna hi pariksha mein pass honge; parakh nahin sakte ho ki Maya kis roop mein aa rahi hai aur mere samne yeh vigna aaya -- yeh parakh kum hone ke karan pariksha mein fail ho jaate hain -- parakh acchi hogi woh pass ho sakte hain."
English translation: "One more special advice. Now, in many forms, in the form of soul, in the form of body, you all will face many forms of distractions, but you should not get entangled in them. Many exams will come. who will pass in these exams??.. only those who have discriminating power. The more discriminating power you have, the more you will pass in the exam. Can you not recognise in what way Maya has come, and why this obstacle has come; this lack of discrimination will fail you in the exam - those who have the power of discrimination will pass the exam."
In the above Vani, Av. Brahma(Mama) has clearly declared that Maya will come in the form of soul and body and only those(108) who have the power of discrimination will overcome the obstacles and pass the exams.
shivsena.
Please read the Vani below and you will be surprised that avaykt Brahma(Mama) has given many subtle hints about the future role of Godly Maya and how to pass these exams way back in 1969.
Avaykt Vani 26-5-69 ( page 66 )
"Ek aur vishesh baat. Ab bahut roop se, atma ke roop se, sharir ke roop se, aap sabhi ko behkhane wale bahut roop samne aayenge, lekin usme behakna nahin hai. Bahut pariksha aayengi. Pariksha mein pass kaun ho sakta hai?? jisco parakh puri hogi; parakhane ki shakti jitni hogi utna hi pariksha mein pass honge; parakh nahin sakte ho ki Maya kis roop mein aa rahi hai aur mere samne yeh vigna aaya -- yeh parakh kum hone ke karan pariksha mein fail ho jaate hain -- parakh acchi hogi woh pass ho sakte hain."
English translation: "One more special advice. Now, in many forms, in the form of soul, in the form of body, you all will face many forms of distractions, but you should not get entangled in them. Many exams will come. who will pass in these exams??.. only those who have discriminating power. The more discriminating power you have, the more you will pass in the exam. Can you not recognise in what way Maya has come, and why this obstacle has come; this lack of discrimination will fail you in the exam - those who have the power of discrimination will pass the exam."
In the above Vani, Av. Brahma(Mama) has clearly declared that Maya will come in the form of soul and body and only those(108) who have the power of discrimination will overcome the obstacles and pass the exams.
shivsena.
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Re: Who is Godly-form of Maya ???
To all truth-seeking PBKs.
Sharing another important Vani point about how the subtle Godly Maya is working in the pbk family from 1990 onwards.
Av. Vani dated 10-1-94 says: "Maya ki sukhma royal samajdhari ki shakti apna karya teevra-gati se kar rahi hai aur karti rahegi....Maya ke ati-sukhma swaroop ko janene mein dhoka kha lete hain. Maya aisa royal roop rakhti jo wrong ko bhi right anubhav karati hai. Hai bilkul wrong, lekin buddhi ko aisa parivartit kar deti jo real samaj ko, mahsoostaa ki shakti ko gayab kar deti hai. jaise koi jadoo mantra karte hain naa, toh parvash ho jaate hain, aisi mahsoostaa shakti gayab karne ki royal Maya, real ko samajne nahin deti. Hogaa bilkul wrong lekin Maya ki chaya ke vashibhoot hone ke karan, wrong ko right samajte aur siddh karne me Maya ke supreme court ka vakil ban jaate. Toh vakil kya karte ??...jhoot ko sach siddh karne mein hoshiyaar hote....sach ko sach siddh karne mein bhi hote, lekin jhoot ko sach siddh karne mein hoshiyaar hote hain...dono mein hoshiyaar hote hain...isslie BapDada attention ko double underline karaa rahe hain.....mahsoostaa ki shakti ko parvartit karne ki sukhma swaroop ki Maya ki chaya se sadaa apne ko safe rakho, kyon ki visesh Maya ka swaroop, iss swaroop se apna karya kar raha hai..samjaa ? careful rahena.....mann mein negative bhav aur bhavna paida karne ka vishesh Maya ka prabhav chal rahaa hai, aur buddhi mein yartharth mahsoostaa ko samapt karne ka vishesh Maya ka karya chal rahaa."
[ meaning: "The subtle royal understanding of (Godly) Maya (ie advance knowledge) is working very fast (since 1990) and will keep on working (till the end of Kaliyugi shooting)...(PBKs ) get betrayed by the very subtle form of (Godly) Maya.....Maya adorns such a royal (Godly) form, that wrong (knowledge) appears right...It (AK) is absolutely wrong, but Maya changes the intellect to such an extent that they(PBKs) does not realise it....just as someone does black magic and controls the person, similarly the royal (Godly)Maya dulls the realisation power(of PBKs) and does not allow them to understand the real truth....(AK) is totally wrong but being under the umbrella of Maya, (PBKs) understand wrong to be right and to prove it to others, they become the Maya's supreme lawyers...so what do the lawyers do??...they are experts in proving untruth as truth...lawyers are experts in both: proving truth as truth and also untruth as truth...that is why BapDada says to double underline the word ''attention''....keep yourself safe from the umbrella of subtle royal (Godly) Maya, who dulls and converts your realisation power....because this (Godly) form of Maya is now working in a very subtle form...understand??...be careful....the influence of (ishwariya) Maya is creating negative vibrations and emotions in the minds (of PBKs) and the Maya's work of ending the real realisation(of ShivBaba's part) is going on at the present time."]
In the above Vani, avaykt brahma(Mama) is clearly describing the ishwariya form of Maya working in a very subtle manner from 1990 onwards in so called Advance Party, to betray the PBKs and to dull their realisation power, by giving wrong advance knowledge in such a manner that it appears as truth...and many PBKs (who do not have discriminating power) start accepting untruth (AK) as truth and become Maya's supreme lawyers and propagate it to others...and so avaykt Mama is warning the potential 108 to be very attentive and careful about this very subtle Godly form of Maya.
shivsena
Sharing another important Vani point about how the subtle Godly Maya is working in the pbk family from 1990 onwards.
Av. Vani dated 10-1-94 says: "Maya ki sukhma royal samajdhari ki shakti apna karya teevra-gati se kar rahi hai aur karti rahegi....Maya ke ati-sukhma swaroop ko janene mein dhoka kha lete hain. Maya aisa royal roop rakhti jo wrong ko bhi right anubhav karati hai. Hai bilkul wrong, lekin buddhi ko aisa parivartit kar deti jo real samaj ko, mahsoostaa ki shakti ko gayab kar deti hai. jaise koi jadoo mantra karte hain naa, toh parvash ho jaate hain, aisi mahsoostaa shakti gayab karne ki royal Maya, real ko samajne nahin deti. Hogaa bilkul wrong lekin Maya ki chaya ke vashibhoot hone ke karan, wrong ko right samajte aur siddh karne me Maya ke supreme court ka vakil ban jaate. Toh vakil kya karte ??...jhoot ko sach siddh karne mein hoshiyaar hote....sach ko sach siddh karne mein bhi hote, lekin jhoot ko sach siddh karne mein hoshiyaar hote hain...dono mein hoshiyaar hote hain...isslie BapDada attention ko double underline karaa rahe hain.....mahsoostaa ki shakti ko parvartit karne ki sukhma swaroop ki Maya ki chaya se sadaa apne ko safe rakho, kyon ki visesh Maya ka swaroop, iss swaroop se apna karya kar raha hai..samjaa ? careful rahena.....mann mein negative bhav aur bhavna paida karne ka vishesh Maya ka prabhav chal rahaa hai, aur buddhi mein yartharth mahsoostaa ko samapt karne ka vishesh Maya ka karya chal rahaa."
[ meaning: "The subtle royal understanding of (Godly) Maya (ie advance knowledge) is working very fast (since 1990) and will keep on working (till the end of Kaliyugi shooting)...(PBKs ) get betrayed by the very subtle form of (Godly) Maya.....Maya adorns such a royal (Godly) form, that wrong (knowledge) appears right...It (AK) is absolutely wrong, but Maya changes the intellect to such an extent that they(PBKs) does not realise it....just as someone does black magic and controls the person, similarly the royal (Godly)Maya dulls the realisation power(of PBKs) and does not allow them to understand the real truth....(AK) is totally wrong but being under the umbrella of Maya, (PBKs) understand wrong to be right and to prove it to others, they become the Maya's supreme lawyers...so what do the lawyers do??...they are experts in proving untruth as truth...lawyers are experts in both: proving truth as truth and also untruth as truth...that is why BapDada says to double underline the word ''attention''....keep yourself safe from the umbrella of subtle royal (Godly) Maya, who dulls and converts your realisation power....because this (Godly) form of Maya is now working in a very subtle form...understand??...be careful....the influence of (ishwariya) Maya is creating negative vibrations and emotions in the minds (of PBKs) and the Maya's work of ending the real realisation(of ShivBaba's part) is going on at the present time."]
In the above Vani, avaykt brahma(Mama) is clearly describing the ishwariya form of Maya working in a very subtle manner from 1990 onwards in so called Advance Party, to betray the PBKs and to dull their realisation power, by giving wrong advance knowledge in such a manner that it appears as truth...and many PBKs (who do not have discriminating power) start accepting untruth (AK) as truth and become Maya's supreme lawyers and propagate it to others...and so avaykt Mama is warning the potential 108 to be very attentive and careful about this very subtle Godly form of Maya.
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