Who is teaching RajYoga?? [from when and to whom??]

[shivachild]

dear Shivsena Bhai,

Murli dated 17.08.2013(original date :25.06.1965) syas:
"Never think: Mama has left her body and so what will happen now? If you shed tears, you fail. The Father is giving all of us an inheritance is sitting here. He is immortal and so there is no need to shed tears for Him. We ourselves are making effort to shed our bodies in happiness. Mama had to go somewhere else for a particular task and that too was in the drama."


What may be this special task of Om-radhey Mama after 24th june 1965?

[shivsena]

Who is this Brahma who is the mother of Om radhey-Mama.

I do not know of anyone who can be mother of Mama....everybody called om-radhe Mama but i have not heard that Mama called anyone else Mama.....for me she is supreme ruh and only those souls who consider her as supreme ruh will become ruhani bacche by her help in the end....the rest are jismani bacche.

[shivsena]

dear Shivsena Bhai,

Murli dated 17.08.2013(original date :25.06.1965) syas:
"Never think: Mama has left her body and so what will happen now? If you shed tears, you fail. The Father is giving all of us an inheritance is sitting here. He is immortal and so there is no need to shed tears for Him. We ourselves are making effort to shed our bodies in happiness. Mama had to go somewhere else for a particular task and that too was in the drama."


What may be this special task of Om-radhey Mama after 24th june 1965?

Imo, Mama (along with shiv pita) had to go to subtle angelic region in 1965 and wait there for 108 farishta children ....between 1965-69, Mama as Gyan ki devi Saraswati speaks the Murlis in complex riddle fashion describing the future behad ka Sangamyugi drama, to seperate out the the children into 2 groups : Matale bacche and sautele bacche.....and all av-Vanis after 1969 are only for would-be farishtas who will read-churn-and do purusharth of becoming avaykt karmatit farishtas.....This is the special task of Mama after 1965.

[shivachild]

Imo, Mama (along with Shiv pita) had to go to subtle angelic region in 1965 and wait there for 108 farishta children ....between 1965-69, Mama as Gyan ki devi Saraswati speaks the Murlis in complex riddle fashion describing the future behad ka Sangamyugi drama,........This is the special task of Mama after 1965.

Murli dated 25.04.2013 says,:"Jagadamba was the one who fulfilled everyone's desires. She too was a mother. Jagadamba made Bharat into heaven by following Shrimat and this is why she is praised so much."

This Murli ends with the following words:"To the beloved, long lost and now found children, love, remembrance and good morning from Bap, Dada, and sweetest Jagadamba. The spiritual Father says namaste to the spiritual children."

Is this the hint that jagdamba is teaching all of us?

[sita]

Jagadamba made Bharat into heaven by following Shrimat

It means that someone else was giving the Shrimat and she was following that Shrimat. Not that she was herself giving it.

[shivachild]

It means that someone else was giving the Shrimat and she was following that Shrimat. Not that she was herself giving it.

Good point! it is very clearly told in Murlis that ShivBaba is teaching us. In some Murlis it is mentioned that jagdamba is teaching us and Jagdamba is bestower of fortune.


Murli dated 08.02.2013 says,"Shiv Baba is teaching you. The Father has now come to give you the inheritance of the future new world. No one else can say: Children, I am teaching you Raja Yoga for heaven. You also heard that song. The song is of the past. Jagadamba was like that. She definitely created fortune because there are her temples, but people don't know who she was, how she came or what fortune she created."

Now the question is:
1)Are ShivBaba(shiv+shivshakti) and Jagdamba(shivshakti) are different souls?
2)How jagdamba is giving fortune?

[shivsena]

Murli dated 25.04.2013 says,:"Jagadamba was the one who fulfilled everyone's desires. She too was a mother. Jagadamba made Bharat into heaven by following Shrimat and this is why she is praised so much."

IMO....Soul of Jagdamba Mama is Shri-Shri ShivBaba who is supreme teacher who is giving Shrimat....bindi shiv is not Shri-Shri ShivBaba and does not give any Shrimat(shiv is akarta)....when Supreme teacher is giving Shrimat, then first, the teacher has to set an example to sudents, otherwise who will the students follow....so Mama imbibed Shrimat 100% and became a flawless example for children to follow....the students by following combined Mother-Father become matale children numberwise.

[shivachild]

Dear Shivsena,
In the Murli dated 21.01.1969(This is the first Murli after Brahma's ascent, spoken in the evening of 21st January 1969, through Dadi Gulzar) it is said that
The slogan at the end is: "the Mothers of Bharat are the incarnation of shakti". The son shows the Father."

your views on these words please

[sita]

Good point! it is very clearly told in Murlis that ShivBaba is teaching us. In some Murlis it is mentioned that jagdamba is teaching us and Jagdamba is bestower of fortune.

Jagadamba is a child. Whatever is said for her is said for every child of ShivBaba. Everyone who learns the knowledge becomes entitled to teach others and like this to create their fortune more or less. Jagadamba has become great teacher due to her ability to grasp the knowledge and churn on it, due to her effort to inculcate it and to follow the Shrimat. For her it is said that she was moving as per how the one who made her move liked to move her. It is not that the one who is moving others and the one who is himself moved are one and the same.

[shivsena]

Dear Shivsena,
In the Murli dated 21.01.1969(This is the first Murli after Brahma's ascent, spoken in the evening of 21st January 1969, through Dadi Gulzar) it is said that
The slogan at the end is: "the Mothers of Bharat are the incarnation of shakti". The son shows the Father."

your views on these words please

Dear shivachild.
The slogan in Hindi is "Bharatmata shiv-shakti avataar"....imo, it means that no. 1 soul Mama-jagdamba-adi-shakti will be revealed along with 108 shivshaktis who accept Mateshwari-jagdamba as combined mat-pita.....these 108 rudramala souls will reveal Father Shiv combined with mother jagdamba.(son shows Father)

[shivachild]

The slogan in Hindi is "Bharatmata shiv-shakti avataar"...

Murli dated 16.05.2013 says,:"You children heard the song because you are now sitting personally in front of Baba. You also know that the mother of all of you is Jagadamba. However, not the whole world is able to recognise her. It is only in Bharat that they have the picture of Jagadamba and her praise is here too. Abroad, there is greater praise of Shiva because He is the Father of all."

Dear Shivsena,
1)Only in Bharat Jagdamba is recognised, Who is this Bharat?
2)Jagdamba(shivshakti) is praised only in Bharat, but Shiva is praised all over the world.Why?

[shivsena]

Dear Shivsena,
1)Only in Bharat Jagdamba is recognised, Who is this Bharat?
2)Jagdamba(shivshakti) is praised only in Bharat, but Shiva is praised all over the world.Why?

imo, Bharat is not a person.... the whole physical world civilisation begins from Bharat...similarly the spiritual revolution also begins from Bharat(BKWSU) and Maa jagdamba will be revealed as Bharatmata shivshakti in future in Bharat-BKWSU.....all the breakaway groups(Virendra Dev Dixit-dashrath-nagraj) are all vidharmis souls who have seperated from Bharat-BKWSU, just all the vidharmis dharms seperate out from Dwapur yug onwards in bharatland-India (Mu: "saraa khel Bharat par hai, baki sab hain by-plot")....Since Bharatmata is revealed in Bharat-BKWSU, sthool Bharat is known as motherland and since vidharmi-religions do not accept jagdamba as world mother and they just believe in Father-shiv, that is why Father and Fatherland is praised in all other countries and religions.

[shivachild]

Murli dated 06.07.013 says,:"There is a lot of praise of kumaris in Bharat. However, they don't know the importance of that. Jagadamba is praised a lot; the Father is not praised as much. The Father has come and uplifted the mothers and so you should become courageous. One has to be courageous to ride a lion."

Dear Shivsena
Who is Father in the above Murli statement according to you?

[shivsena]

Murli dated 06.07.013 says,:"There is a lot of praise of Kumaris in Bharat. However, they don't know the importance of that. Jagadamba is praised a lot; the Father is not praised as much. The Father has come and uplifted the mothers and so you should become courageous. One has to be courageous to ride a lion."

Dear Shivsena
Who is Father in the above Murli statement according to you?

Imo, the Father in the Murli point is nirakar shiv who does not require any praise as he is akarta....jagdamba-ShivBaba-adi-shakti (karan-karavanhaar Bap) is praised....Father shiv places the urn of knowledge on no. 1 shivshakti-jagdamba and so jagdamba is praised a lot...and along with jagdamba the 108 shivshaktis (behad ki matas) are also praised.

[shivachild]

Imo, the Father in the Murli point is nirakar Shiv who does not require any praise as he is akarta....

Dear shivsena,
whehever word 'Father' is used in Murli points it is always refered to Nirakar Shiv who is akarta. Whenever word 'mother' is used in Murli points it is always referred to Shivshakti-Jagdamba. This is what I could understand....
Murli dated 4-07-2013 says,:"You have come to know who the one called Jagadamba is. Who is actually the Mother and Father? By saying "Mother and Father" Jagadamba will not be remembered. This applies to the incorporeal One. This is only in your intellects. It is accurate that God, the Father, is the Father. He is incorporeal."

and the same Murli says,:"The Father says: I explain such deep secrets to you. It cannot sit in anyone's intellect who the Mother and Father is."