mr green wrote: ↑22 Aug 2007
I think the practice of offering Bhog and sending good wishes to departed souls is lifted straight from Hinduism, as is most bk dharna.
Om Shanti,
It would be a great thing to become soul conscious. Since the body-consciousness is deeply rooted in us it is even difficult.
On the other hand, people are fooled. Even Brahma Baba thought Shiva was in him and he is going to be a world Father (according to PBKs).
Then when the Avyakt Vanis came people thought it was Shiva (according to PBKs).
Then Virendra Dev Dixit propagated that Shiva is in him (Shiva never used him to narrate any Murli; or Shiva never used his body and said - look I am here).
Both BKs and PBKs look like they are all in deep suffering (BKs look pleasant because they have a five-star hotel and gardens with 37 meals for free).
There is a catch in Shiva's words or teaching.
On the one hand, He says you children are chosen, and you will not experience sorrow now, after meeting Baba and following Shrimat.
The same Murli says - this is not an easy task, it is number-wise, and you all fall and climb up (which means you are already lustful and wrathful) so just forgetting Shiva for one second you can make a mistake of sex-lust.
In today's world that is not acceptable to become angry and lustful (suffering sorrow and pain are different).
Now people are in the same shoe as Bhakti (maybe a God is in this idol) we don't know but we have to have faith.
Shankar says loudly that look at these examples, it was told Shankar is the chosen one, but according to Virendra Dev Dixit Shiva is sitting with him and observing and thinking I do not have to give any guidance more than what I have given through Brahma Baba, so let the children climb up number-wise.
(99% of PBKs face looks like they are in deep sorrow).
99% of the BKs look like they are pretending to be happy.
I still have faith that let it be numbers, as far I am concerned, I do not know, and I have never found any experience of joy or sorrow from doing Yoga. Maybe because I am doing it alone. But I used to go to BK centre and they treated me well. I went to Delhi PBKs they treated me well. My sex-lust with my wife has died gradually. But deep inside I am a lustful thorn. Virendra Dev Dixit also says he is a lustful thorn, then I feel good I am also a lustful thorn. That was not what BKs taught me they want me to be a celibate right away. The PBKs also say the same thing that you must be a celibate right away. But Virendra Dev Dixit does not say a word clearly about it. Neither do Murlis say anything, even if Murli says, it should have double meaning
besides a lustful thorn for 63 births and in one second you become brahmachari is like (an alcoholic for 63 birth and you are stopping it one second).
So I think Shiva leaves it for us to decide and everybody says their own opinion. I am quite sure sex will die gradually. And when I experience intense depression I look for sex to lift up (dopamine addiction) but at the same time if the mood is high (not soul-consciousness) I do not think bout sex. So here I am quite sure Shiva was talking something, and people who propagate the teaching understood something else.
If you had 84 births there is no way you can control your mind overnight (without Shiva raising you like a child in his ashram or house).
In the 90s they used to teach - no need of faith, here you experience God, then what is the point of faith?
But these days (both BKs and PBKs ) want you to have faith.
What I think the atomic bomb is this fake celibacy is going to blow up as a huge tsunami!