Good Wishes for the Godly Family

[john]

Arjun

Brahma is the soul which is to play the role of Vishnu or Vaishnavi Devi

When you say Brahma do you mean Dada Lekhraj?

Jagdamba is the soul playing the role of Yagya mother presently

Where is this role of Yagya mother?

[aimée]

Bansey,
I personally think that God cannot possibly interfere in our drama. He does sometimes suggest that drama is stronger than him. This does make sense, otherwise who would he favour or neglect, who would be lucky to come across a good piece of advice from him? Baba gives everything in the Murli, he gives the same chance to everyone, then it is up to our effort and our churning to understand what we need to know. Even when we ask direct questions, he does not always answer in a straight way. The idea is to become manmanabhav, to merge our thoughts in his, to make them parrallel, in such a way that we then become madhyajibhav, we know exactly what to do, we act exactly accordingly to his directions, and not according to our manmat/ego. I think, BK/PBK, there are very very few that are able to understand the implication of this.
Aimée

[bansy]

Arjunbhai, Aimee,
I agree. The relationship between Father and child is a two way connection. And needs developing.
Regards
Bansy

[pbktrinityshiva]

Maybe there has been some wording misunderstanding. I don't think "order" is what is meant to be used as it seems strong, but I used the word "directions".

My apologies Bansy, yes you are correct in saying that directions is the right word to use. Baba has said that he does not give orders he gives directions because it would not be right if he gave orders and the children did not follow.

As he is the director of the drama he shows the true path and we must show mercy on ourselves and follow that supreme direction (Shrimat), then our act(s) will be of the highest level.

Its not that he gives more to some and less to others he gives equal to all, its just that some take more from him and others take less. Giving to ShivBaba is really not giving at all because during this confluence we receive so many times return for a single effort on our part. This is different from during the 5000 year cycle where karma gives us a 1:1 return on our actions.

Frankly, there are some souls in this world who do not care about this "final test", in fact quite a few billion souls, since, as per drama, it's already been decided who will pass and who will fail.

The cycle is pre-determined but at this point we do not know about our complete 84 births. We do not have this complete knowledge of the roles we have played in this drama. So it makes sense we should aim for the highest and we will receive a good post. As far as the souls of the outside world are concerned they are unaware of ShivBaba message and they will also not know about their parts until they come in contact with the director.

The idea is to become manmanabhav, to merge our thoughts in his, to make them parrallel, in such a way that we then become madhyajibhav, we know exactly what to do, we act exactly accordingly to his directions, and not according to our manmat/ego.

I think Aimée has summed up the essence here nicely. :D
Om Shanti

[arjun]

Dear John,
Om Shanti. I am sorry for the delay in reply.
You asked: "When you say Brahma do you mean Dada Lekhraj?"
No. Here Brahma does not mean Dada Lekhraj. Here it refers to the soul which plays the role of Vishnu or Vaishnavi devi or the junior mother (choti Mama) at the end of the Confluence Age. She is the head of the rosary of victory (vijaymala).

You also asked: "Where is this role of Yagya mother?"
It is in the Advance Party or among the PBKs. The soul of Brahma (Dada Lekhraj) also plays a part through her. Dada Lekhraj was given the title of Jagdamba in the Sakar Murlis, but since he was in a male costume, he is not worshipped as Jagdamba in the path of worship. When the same soul of Dada Lekhraj enters into another Brahmin child (in a female costume) it plays the role of Jagdamba, which is worshipped in the path of worship (Bhaktimarg).

With regards,
On Godly service,
Arjun.

[john]

OK thanks Arjun that makes more sense

[fluffy bunny]

When the same soul of Dada Lekhraj enters into another Brahmin child (in a female costume) it plays the role of Jagdamba, which is worshipped in the path of worship (Bhaktimarg).

Are you saying that Dada Lekhraj has since re-incarnated as a girl that is or will be following the PBK path?

Does Choti Mama have a human name? Is she incarnate as well?

Thanks.

[arjun]

Dear ex-l,
Om Shanti.
1. Are you saying that Dada Lekhraj has since re-incarnated as a girl that is or will be following the PBK path?
Ans: On the basis of the advance knowledge given by Father Shiv through Shankar, we believe that the soul of Dada Lekhraj (alias Brahma Baba) is not in the Subtle Region but is playing a role through his subtle body in this world itself by entering into aloukik Brahmins. He enters into the body of Shankar to obtain advance knowledge and is depicted on the forehead of Shankar as a half moon.
Similarly, the soul of Dada Lekhraj also enters into the body of the person who we believe to be our present Yagya mata, who is going to be revealed as Jagdamba (World Mother). Shiv played the role of a mother through Dada Lekhraj and all the qualities of a mother like tolerance, love & affection, service etc. were displayed through that part. Brahma was also referred to as Jagdamba in many Murlis. But since it was a male body he could not be named as Jagdamba, nor is that role worshipped as Jagdamba in the Copper & Iron Ages. Dada Lekhraj got the title of Prajapita Brahma and Mama Saraswati got the title of Jagdamba in the absence of the actual Prajapita Brahma and Jagdamba who were in the Yagya in the beginning and are now once again present in the Yagya with different bodily costumes.
The same soul of Dada Lekhraj who was referred to as Jagdamba in the Murlis enters into the body of a Prajapita Brahmakumari (PBK) to play the role of actual Jagdamba, who is also worshipped in the path of worship.

2. Does Choti Mama have a human name? Is she incarnate as well?
Ans: Yes, Choti Mama also has a human name, but we avoid quoting the lokik names. She is the personality who is the head of the rosary of victory (vijaymala) and is still a BK. To make it more clear I can hint that she is the person, who, on the basis of her purity, creates unity in a place famous in the world as the dark continent, where most other BK teachers would have dreaded to go for service in the beginning of the foreign service. She is the queen bee whom most BKs would follow when she realizes and accepts the advance knowledge.

With regards,
On Godly service,
Arjun