PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 31.10.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969 – DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
तो बाप समझाते हैं, मुझे भी जरूर रथ तो चाहिए ना। मुझ पतित-पावन को जरूर पतित दुनिया में आना पड़े ना। प्लेग की बीमारी होती है, तो डॉक्टर को प्लेगियों के पास आना पड़ेगा। बाप कहते हैं, तुम्हारे में 5 विकारों की बीमारी आधाकल्प की है। मनुष्य तो दु:ख देने वाले हैं। इन 5 विकारों से तुम बिल्कुल ही पतित बन गये हो।
तो बाप समझाते हैं, मुझे पतित दुनिया में ही आना पड़े ना।
“The Father explains: I too definitely need a Chariot. I, the Purifier, definitely have to come into the impure World. When there is a disease of plague, doctors have to come to those who have the plague. The Father says: You have had the illness of the five vices in You for half the Cycle. Human beings only cause sorrow. You have become completely impure with these five vices.
Therefore, the Father explains: I have to come ONLY into the impure World.”
Since patients of plague, who had to be quarantined, could not go to a doctor themselves, hence the doctor had to go to the patients of plague to try and cure them.
Since impure embodied souls CANNOT go back to the Soul World,
UNTIL & UNLESS they become pure again, hence the Supreme Soul has to come into the impure World, in order to purify the embodied souls, once again, so that they become soul-conscious, only after which they can go back to their Sweet Silence Home – the Soul World, or the Supreme Abode.
तो बाप कहते हैं, मैं आऊं तो कैसे आऊं, किसके शरीर में आऊं? पहले तो मुझे प्रजापिता चाहिए। सूक्ष्म वतनवासी को यहाँ कैसे ले आ सकता? वह तो फरिश्ता है ना। उनको पतित दुनिया में ले आऊं - यह तो दोष हो जाए। कहेंगे, मैंने क्या गुनाह किया?
बाप बड़ी रमणीक बातें समझाते हैं। समझेगा वही, जो बाप का बना होगा, घड़ी-घड़ी बाप को याद करता रहेगा।
“The Father says: When I come, how should I come? In whose body should I come? First of all, I need ‘PrajaPita’ (
‘Father of the People’ – soul of DLR). How could the one who is a (
SYMBOLIC, REPRESENTATIVE) resident of the Subtle Region be brought here? That one is an (
SYMBOLIC) angel (
representing the FUTURE perfect form of Brahma Baba,
ONLY DURING the period,
WHEN Brahma Baba enacts the role of ‘PrajaPita’,
through his own corporeal body, on this corporeal sphere,
UNTIL 1969). It would be a mistake if I were to bring that one (
symbolic, representative, PERFECT FUTURE form of Brahma Baba) into the impure World. That one would say: ‘What sin have I committed’?
The Father explains very entertaining aspects to You. ONLY THOSE who belong to the Father, and who continuously Remember the Father, will understand (these aspects, in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE).”
The
Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God has to enter the corporeal body of
His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR –
as His EXCLUSIVE ‘mukrar-rath’, in ‘Sakar’ – and NOT the symbolic, representative, PERFECT FUTURE form of Brahma Baba – who is seen in the Subtle Region as Subtle Brahma, by selected trance messengers,
ONLY DURING the period, WHEN Brahma Baba enacts the role of ‘PrajaPita’, through his corporeal body, on this corporeal sphere, UNTIL 1969 – when Brahma Baba achieves his ‘sampurna karmateet avastha’, or COMPLETE ANGELIC STAGE,
AFTER which THAT symbolic, representative, perfect form of Subtle Brahma is NO LONGER seen as SEPARATE from ‘Avyakt’ Brahma Baba - who, THEN, CONTINUES to come to this corporeal sphere, COMBINED TOGETHER with Incorporeal God Father Shiva, as BapDada, in ‘Avyakt’, to CONTINUE performing their Spiritual tasks of World Purification & World Transformation - through designated embodied souls,
ON THIS CORPOREAL SPHERE - using the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar,
WHENEVER SO REQUIRED!
Hence, there is NO QUESTION of Incorporeal God Father Shiva entering the corporeal body of ANOTHER embodied soul, AFTER Brahma Baba leaves his corporeal body in 1969 –
as His EXCLUSIVE ‘mukrar-rath’, in ‘Sakar’! ANYONE, who claims, or implies, that he is the EXCLUSIVE ‘mukrar-rath’ of Incorporeal God Father Shiva, AFTER Brahma Baba leaves his corporeal body in 1969,
has to be an IMPOSTOR!
ONLY THOSE who TRULY belong to the Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul -
REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God - and who continuously Remember Him,
ALONE, will understand these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!
तो बाप पूछते हैं - बच्चे, बताओ, मैं आऊं तो किस तन में आऊं?
मुझे चाहिए भी जरूर वृद्ध अनुभवी रथ। यह जो मैंने रथ लिया है, बरोबर इनके बहुत गुरू किये हुए हैं। शास्त्र आदि पढ़ा हुआ है। यह भी लिखा हुआ है ना कि बहुत पढ़ा हुआ था। अर्जुन की बात नहीं। मुझे कोई अर्जुन वा कृष्ण का रथ थोड़ेही चाहिए।
मुझे तो चाहिए ब्रह्मा का रथ, उनको ही प्रजापिता कहेंगे। कृष्ण को तो प्रजापिता नहीं कहेंगे। बाप को तो ब्रह्मा का ही रथ चाहिए, जिससे ब्राह्मणों की प्रजा रचे। ब्राह्मणों का है सर्वोत्तम कुल।
“So, the Father asks: Children, tell Me, when I come, in whose body should I come?
I surely need an elderly experienced Chariot. This one (soul of DLR), whose Chariot I have taken, has truly adopted many gurus. He has studied the Scriptures, etc. It is also written that he was very well educated. This has nothing to do with Arjuna. I do not need the Chariot of Arjuna, or Krishna (
of Golden Age).
I need the Chariot of Brahma (of Confluence Age, who is the VERY SAME soul of Shri Krishna of Golden Age). ONLY he (Brahma Baba, or soul of DLR) can be called (REAL, ORIGINAL, ETERNAL) PrajaPita (ALL others are IMPOSTORS). Krishna (
of Golden Age) cannot be called PrajaPita (
since he is only a small Child THERE). The Father ONLY NEEDS the Chariot of Brahma (
of Confluence Age,
who is the VERY SAME soul of Shri Krishna of Golden Age), through whom He can create the progeny of Brahmins. The (
TRUE) Brahmin clan is the most elevated clan.”
REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God DOES NOT NEED the Chariot of Shri Krishna of the beginning of Golden Age, since
THAT is the PURE World; whereas, He has to come ONLY in the impure World, and ONLY in the body of
REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev, as His ‘mukrar-rath’, or APPOINTED Chariot – being the VERY SAME soul of Shri Krishna of the beginning of Golden Age. Shri Krishna of Golden Age, CANNOT be called ‘PrajaPita’
THERE, in Golden Age – but the VERY SAME soul of Shri Krishna of Golden Age, is called PrajaPita when he enacts the role of REAL, ORIGINAL, ETERNAL
EVIDENT PrajaPita Brahma, or JagadPita, on this corporeal sphere, at the end of Iron Age, during the Confluence Age – WHEN Incorporeal God Father Shiva carries out the tasks of establishment, Spiritual sustenance, and World Purification & World Transformation,
ONLY THROUGH him -
FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969;
and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his ELEVATED SUBTLE body, till the end of Confluence Age!
बाप कहते हैं, मेरा जन्म भी भारत में है। शिव जयन्ती भी मनाते हो। मेरे नाम तो ढेर रख दिये हैं।
कहते हैं, ‘हर-हर महादेव’; सबके दु:ख काटने वाला, वह भी मैं ही हूँ, शंकर नहीं है। ब्रह्मा सर्विस पर हाज़िर है। और फिर जो स्थापना करते हैं, वही विष्णु के दो रूप से पालना करेंगे। मुझे प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा जरूर चाहिए। आदि देव का बरोबर मन्दिर भी है। आदि देव किसका बच्चा है? कोई बताये। इस देलवाड़ा मन्दिर के जो ट्रस्टी लोग हैं, वह भी यह नहीं जानते कि आदि देव है कौन? उनका बाप कौन था? आदि देव प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा है, उनका बाप है शिव। यह जगतपिता, जगत अम्बा का यादगार मन्दिर है।
“The Father says: My Birth too is in Bharat. People celebrate Shiv Jayanti. They have given Me many Names.
They say, ‘Har Har Mahadev’ (‘Mahadev, the Remover of sorrow’); the One who removes everyone's sorrow is also Me, and NOT Shankar. Brahma is present on Service. THEN, the one (
Brahma Baba) who carries out establishment (
as an instrument of Shiva,
in Confluence Age) will, himself, (
be instrumental to) carry out sustenance (
as Shri Narayan, in the beginning of Golden Age), through the dual-form of Vishnu (
along with the soul of Saraswati Mama, as Shri Lakshmi). I definitely need PrajaPita Brahma (
soul of DLR). There is truly the temple to Adi Dev. Whose Child is Adi Dev? Can anyone tell? Even the trustees of the Dilwala Temple do not know who Adi Dev was, or who his Father was. Adi Dev is PrajaPita Brahma (
soul of DLR), and his Father is Shiva. This temple is the memorial of JagadAmba (
Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe) and JagadPita (
Brahma Baba or soul of DLR).”
The praise, ‘Har Har Mahadev’ (
‘Mahadev, the Remover of sorrow’), pertains
ONLY to Incorporeal God Father Shiva – and
NOT to Shankar!
The Dilwala Temple also commemorates
REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev – through whom, Incorporeal God Father Shiva carries out the tasks of establishment, Spiritual sustenance, and World Purification & World Transformation, in Confluence Age ITSELF – and who, himself, becomes instrumental to carry out the PRACTICAL sustenance, in the beginning of Golden Age, as Emperor Shri Narayan, along with the soul of Saraswati Mama, as Empress Shri Lakshmi (
who is his Spiritual soul-mate or ‘yugal-dana’) – who are,
TOGETHER, represented by the SYMBOLIC dual-form of Vishnu, or MahaLakshmi!
इस आदि देव ब्रह्मा के रथ में बाप ने बैठ ज्ञान सुनाया है। कोठरी में सब बच्चे बैठे हैं। सभी का मन्दिर तो नहीं बनायेंगे। मुख्य है 108 की माला, तो 108 कोठरियां बना दी हैं। 108 की ही पूजा होती है। मुख्य है शिवबाबा, फिर ब्रह्मा-सरस्वती युगल। वह शिवबाबा है फूल। उनको अपना शरीर नहीं है। ब्रह्मा-सरस्वती को अपना शरीर है। माला शरीरधारियों की बनी हुई है।
“
The Father sat in the Chariot of THIS Adi Dev Brahma (soul of DLR) and spoke Knowledge (Cycle after Cycle). All the Children are sitting in the alcoves. There wouldn’t be temples built to all of them. The main ones are in the ‘Rosary of 108’, and so 108 alcoves have been built. Only 108 are worshiped. The MAIN ONE is (
Incorporeal) ShivBaba, and then there is the (
Spiritual) couple (
corporeal) Brahma & Saraswati. (
Incorporeal) ShivBaba is the Tassel (
at the top). He DOES NOT have a body of His own. Brahma & Saraswati have their own bodies. The Rosary is made of bodily beings (
OTHER than Incorporeal Shiva,
who DOES NOT have a corporeal or a subtle body of His own).”
The
MAIN ONE is the Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva – followed by Brahma Baba & Saraswati Mama of Confluence Age – who,
themselves, THEN become the HIGHEST PRACTICAL World Sovereigns, Empress Shri Lakshmi & Emperor Shri Narayan, in the beginning of Golden Age – by virtue of having been the HIGHEST SPIRITUAL World Sovereigns in Confluence Age!
शिवबाबा है मुख्य, फिर प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा और सरस्वती भी मुख्य हैं। बाकी ब्रह्माकुमार-कुमारियाँ जो-जो पुरुषार्थ करते रहते हैं, उन्हों के नाम होंगे। आगे चल तुम सब देखते रहेंगे। जब पिछाड़ी होगी, तब तुम यहाँ आकर रहेंगे। जो पक्के योगी होंगे वही रह सकेंगे।
“ (
Incorporeal) ShivBaba is the MAIN One; and THEN, Prajapita Brahma and Saraswati are also main ones. THEN, there are also the names of the Brahma Kumars & Kumaris (
BKs), who continue to make effort. As You progress further, You will continue to see everything. When it is the end, You will come and stay here. Only those who are firm Yogis will be able to stay here.”
SAME as the preceding point, above!
बाप कहते हैं, मुझे रथ तो जरूर चाहिए। मैं साजन बड़ा हूँ तो सजनी भी बड़ी चाहिए। सरस्वती है ब्रह्मा मुख वंशावली। वह कोई ब्रह्मा की युगल नहीं है, ब्रह्मा की बेटी है। उनको फिर जगत अम्बा क्यों कहते हैं? क्योंकि यह मेल है ना, तो माताओं की सम्भाल के लिए उनको रखा है। ब्रह्मा मुख वंशावली सरस्वती तो ब्रह्मा की बेटी हो गई। मम्मा तो जवान है, ब्रह्मा तो बूढ़ा है। सरस्वती जवान, ब्रह्मा की स्त्री शोभती भी नहीं। ‘हाफ पार्टनर’ कहला न सके। अभी तुम समझ गये हो। तो बाप कहते हैं, मुझे इस ब्रह्मा का शरीर लोन लेना पड़ता है।
“The Father says: I definitely need a Chariot. I am a Great Bride-Groom, and so I also need a great Bride. Saraswati is (
also) a ‘mouth-born’ progeny of Brahma. She is not the (
corporeal) wife of Brahma, she is the (
Spiritual) Daughter of Brahma. Then, why is she called JagadAmba? Since THIS one (
Brahma Baba) is a male, so she has been appointed to take care of the Mothers. Saraswati, the ‘mouth-born’ progeny of Brahma, becomes the (
Spiritual) Daughter of Brahma. Mama is young, whereas Brahma is old. Young Saraswati, does not suit as the (
corporeal) wife of (
old) Brahma. She cannot be called a ‘half-partner’ (
his corporeal wife). You have now understood this. So, the Father says: I have to take THIS body of Brahma on loan.”
Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe is NOT the corporeal wife of Brahma Baba or soul of DLR – she is the ‘mouth-born’ progeny of Brahma, so she becomes the Spiritual Daughter of Brahma Baba, in Confluence Age – although she is
STILL his soul-mate or ‘yugal-dana’, within this EWD Play!
Since
REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev, and who is ALSO the
INCOGNITO JagadAmba of the Righteous Children, is in a male corporeal body, therefore Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe is THEN delegated with the function of
EVIDENT JagadAmba, in order to take care of the Righteous Children – and
TOGETHER, they become the
EVIDENT ‘Alokik’ Parents, or ‘Alokik’ Mother & ‘Alokik’ Father, or
EVIDENT JagadAmba &
EVIDENT JagadPita, of the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins – who follow them, in order to claim their Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya, from Incorporeal God Father Shiva – number-wise, in ACCORDANCE with their individual Spiritual efforts made during Confluence Age!
ब्राह्मण को खिलाते हैं, तो वह आत्मा आकर ब्राह्मण के शरीर का आधार लेगी। आत्मा वह शरीर छोड़कर आती है क्या? नहीं! यह तो बच्चों को समझाया गया है कि ड्रामा में साक्षात्कार की रस्म-रिवाज पहले से नूँध है। यहाँ भी बुलाते हैं।
ऐसे नहीं कि आत्मा शरीर छोड़कर आयेगी। नहीं! यह ड्रामा में नूँध है।
“When a brahmin priest is fed, then that (invoked) soul comes and takes the support of the body of the brahmin. Does that soul leave own body and come here? No! It has been explained to You Children that the system of visions has been fixed in Drama from the beginning. Souls are also called here.
It is NOT that, that soul will shed own body and come. No! That is fixed in Drama.”
When souls are invoked, embodied souls
DO NOT leave their own body, and enter the body of a brahmin. Only the souls who are NOT embodied can ACTUALLY enter the body of a brahmin!
Please view previous points in previous posts, for greater clarification of this aspect, in this topic.
बाप कहते हैं, मैंने जिसमें प्रवेश किया है, इसने बहुत गुरू किये, शास्त्र पढ़े हैं, जन्म भी पूरे 84 लिए हुए हैं। यह नहीं जानता, हम तुमको इन सहित बताता हूँ; ब्रह्मा को भी बतलाता हूँ। सदैव भी तो सवारी नहीं कर सकता हूँ। ब्रह्मा मुख वंशावली ब्राह्मणों को बतलाता हूँ। मुझे रथ भी चाहिए ना? तुम बच्चे याद करते हो, और मैं आ जाता हूँ। मुझे तो सर्विस करनी है, तो श्री श्री शिव की मत से भारत पावन बनता है। ... श्री श्री तो है शिवबाबा। फिर सूक्ष्मवतनवासी ब्रह्मा, विष्णु, शंकर, फिर श्री लक्ष्मी-नारायण। यह समझने की बातें हैं।
“
The Father says: The one in whom I have entered (Brahma Baba, or soul of DLR) has had many gurus, has studied many Scriptures, and has taken the FULL 84 births. He did not know that. I tell You, as well as, him (
through his OWN body); I also tell Brahma all of this. I cannot always be riding (
in the Chariot). I tell everything to the Brahmins, the ‘mouth-born’ progeny of Brahma. I do need a Chariot, is it not? You Children remember Me, and I come. I have to do (
Spiritual) Service, and so Bharat becomes pure through the directions of Shri Shri Shiva. ... Shri Shri is ShivBaba. THEN, there are Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar, the residents of the Subtle Region; and THEN, Shri Lakshmi & Shri Narayan (
of this corporeal World). These aspects have to be understood (
in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE).”
The Highest-on-High is Shri Shri Incorporeal God Father Shiva, followed by the subtle Deities of the Subtle Region - Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar – followed by Brahma Baba & Saraswati Mama of Confluence Age – who,
themselves, become the HIGHEST PRACTICAL World Sovereigns, Empress Shri Lakshmi & Emperor Shri Narayan, in the beginning of Golden Age – by virtue of having been the HIGHEST SPIRITUAL World Sovereigns in Confluence Age!