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Today's Murli 16-3-16 says: " भारत में एक धर्म था, उनको कहा जाता अद्वैत मत वाले देवतायें। द्वैत माना दैत्य।"

Who are the devtas in Bharat who are of Adwait mat and who are Dwait matwale Detya ??

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To all PBKs.

Today's Murli 19-3-16 says : "तुम कोई को भी यह बेहद की हिस्ट्री जॉग्राफी समझा सकते हो।"

What is hadh ki history-geography and what is behad ki history geography ??
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To all PBKs.

Today's Murli 11-4-16 says: "यह तो बेहद का दिन और बेहद की रात है, जिसको कहा जाता है ब्रह्मा का दिन– सतयुग त्रेता, ब्रह्मा की रात– द्वापर कलियुग। रात में अन्धियारा होता है। मनुष्य ठोकरें खाते रहते हैं। भगवान को ढूँढने के लिए चारों तरफ फेरे लगाते हैं, परन्तु परमात्मा को पा नहीं सकते। परमात्मा को पाने के लिए ही भक्ति करते हैं। द्वापर से भक्ति शुरू होती है अर्थात् रावण राज्य शुरू होता है।"

The above point is clearly describing the Sangamyugi Brahma ka Din and Brahma ki raat.
The night of Brahma started from 1969 after Brahma-Lekhraj Kirpalani became avaykt and BKs started adding manmat to Shrimat and started Ravan-rajya and then came Ravan-Virendra Dev Dixit who added fuel to fire (preached his own manmat and formed a new party Aivv and partitioned the Godly family) and started mis-leading innocent BKs by preaching that he is God-ShivBaba and making them PBKs.....as time passed by more self-proclaimed Gods and their parties sprang up in the Brahma ki raat (Dwapur-Kaliyug ki shooting) and this will go on till 2019 when Brahma-Lekhraj Kirpalani completes 50 years and Brahma ka din will start and Vishnu ka virat roop will be revealed and rajdhani of 916108 will be established.
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To all PBKs.

Today's Murli 13-4-16 says : " बाप का भी जन्म है तो रावण का भी जन्म होता है। यह किसको भी पता नहीं। कोई से भी पूछो तो रावण को कब से जलाते हो? कहेंगे वह तो अनादि चलता आता है।"

When does Father take birth and when does Ravan take birth in this Sangamyugi behad ka drama ??
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A question for all PBKs.

Murli : 1-9-14 says: " गीता का भगवान हाथ में गीता ले आता है क्या? वह तो ज्ञान का सागर है, पुस्तक थोड़ेही ले आया । पुस्तक तो भक्तिमार्ग में बनते हैं ।"

The above point clearly says that Gita ka Bhagwan does not take any book(register) in his hand...So how can -Virendra Dev Dixit(supposed Shankar) be Gita ka Bhagwan, when he holds the register of Murlis to give explanation. ???

Can any pbk please clarify or ask -Virendra Dev Dixit for clarification.
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A sincere question to all PBKs.

-Virendra Dev Dixit teaches PBKs that Parampita is Shiv(Nirakar Ram) and Paramatma is Ram-Virendra Dev Dixit(Sakar Ram) and when Virendra Dev Dixit-Ram becomes like shiv in all respects, then God ShivBaba will be revealed and that is why the words Ram-Ram are used in Bhakti-marg.
-Virendra Dev Dixit also teaches that Ram-Virendra Dev Dixit is Prajapita and Brahma-Lekhraj Kirpalani is Brahma(badi-Maa). ...i do not understand how Ram-Virendra Dev Dixit can be Paramatma as well as Prajapita both. ???? .
...Do PBKs believe in the equation that Paramatma = Prajapita = -Virendra Dev Dixit ??

The above question should be asked by PBKs to their guru-Virendra Dev Dixit and PBKs should also consult each other and discuss whether -Virendra Dev Dixit is really Ram Paramatma or Prajapita ?? ...or Ravan who is just fooling the PBKs.

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To all truth-seeking PBKs.

Murli 25-6-16 says: " ब्रह्मा-विष्णु-शंकर हैं सूक्ष्मवतनवासी। पहला तबका फिर दूसरा तबका। ऊंच ते ऊंच मूलवतन, उस तबके में रहने वाला है परमपिता परमात्मा। सेकण्ड नम्बर तबके में सूक्ष्म शरीर वाले हैं। थर्ड तबके में स्थूल शरीरधारी हैं, इसमें मूँझना नहीं है। यह बातें सिवाए परमपिता परमात्मा के कोई समझा नहीं सकता है।"

The above point clearly says that Brahma-Vishnu-Shankar are suxma-vatanwasi...then why do PBKs insist that Brahma-Vishnu-Shankar are 3 jismani murtis (sthool-sharir-dharis) ??
..Can any pbk please explain. ??

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Brahma Vishnu and Shankar are sukshamvatanvasi, but you and everyone else accept that Brahma is also in corporeal.
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A request to all PBKs.

Can any pbk Please quote the date of Murli point : " Mai no. 1 patit kami kante mei pravesh karta hun ".
I have not heard it in any of the recent Murlis.

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Murli 9-9-16 says: " बाप ही अहिल्याओं, गणिकाओं, कुब्जाओं का उद्धार करते हैं। उन्हें विश्व की राजाई का वर्सा दे देते हैं।"

Who are these Ahilayas--Ganikas--Kubzas in Sangamyug whom Bap gives vishwa ki rajayee. ??
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Can any PBK Please quote the date of Murli point : " Mai no. 1 patit kami kante mei pravesh karta hun ".
26.02.74
Who are these Ahilayas--Ganikas--Kubzas
The explanation I have heard is Ahilya is one who brings a sinful one to the court of Indra and her intellect becomes like stone. Ganika is one who sings songs of praise of God, but follows the directions of the pimp and does not know God. Kubja is one whose back-bone (support) of BapDada is broken.


= RESPONSE =

ABSOLUTELY CORRECT - ON ALL THREE COUNTS !!!

Ahilya : ONE who brings the number ONE IMPURE LUSTFUL THORN, (no.1 patit kami kanta), -Virendra Dev Dixit (who THEN takes this TITLE, and becomes REAL 'Ahilya'), to the Court of Indra at Mt Abu, AFTER Brahma Baba becomes Avyakt. The RESULT is that the intellects of BOTH of them turn to STONE, such that -Virendra Dev Dixit (REAL 'Ahilya') DOES NOT Re-Cognize, BOTH, his 'Parlokik' Father (REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God), AS WELL AS, his 'Alokik' Father (REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR), and GETS HIMSELF EJECTED, or THROWN OUT of the Court of Indra, as per Drama Plan; while the ONE who brought him to the Court of Indra, DOES NOT SUPPORT him - EITHER physically or ideologically (becomes hunch-backed or 'Kubja')!

Number ONE IMPURE LUSTFUL THORN, (no.1 patit kami kanta) : There are TWO DISTINCT CATEGORIES!

ONE being the number ONE IMPURE LUSTFUL THORN on the SUBTLE level, who Re-Cognizes God TRULY (the way He ACTUALLY is - as a POINT source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy), and who REAL-EYEses that he is indeed the number ONE IMPURE LUSTFUL THORN in this EWD (based on his INTENSE SUBTLE CARNAL DESIRE & VACILLATING INTELLECT), and that he himself must become the number ONE PURE DIVINE FLOWER in the New World, with the ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, ALONE; and who SURRENDERS EVERYTHING HE HAS - IMPURE BODY, PUTRID MIND, PERISHABLE WEALTH & TREACHEROUS RELATIONSHIPS ('tan', 'man', 'dhan', 'jan'), to bring about TOTAL TRANSFORMATION in himself, in ALL SOULS ('atmas') & in MATTER (atoms).
In short, he is ONE who is instrumental to take embodied souls on the Path towards SALVATION & FRUITION - soul of DLR!

OTHER being the number ONE IMPURE LUSTFUL THORN on the CORPOREAL level, who gets DELUDED into believing that the 'Godly Form' or 'Ishwariya Rup' of Ravan or Maya, is in FACT, God, and who realizes that he is indeed the number ONE IMPURE LUSTFUL THORN (based on his INTENSE CORPOREAL CARNAL DESIRE & VICIOUS INTELLECT), and DELUSIVELY believes that he must become instrumental to give corporeal birth to the number ONE PURE DIVINE FLOWER in the New World of G A (instead of the 'New World' of Ravan Rajya, in the very beginning of C A), and that ALL the TITLES of God pertain PRIMARILY to himself, (thus being instrumental to carry out the ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap, in Confluence Age), and therefore dedicates his life to initiate and propagate the CORRUPTED & ADULTERATED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, which is FORMULATED by MISINTERPRETING, MISREPRESENTING & MISAPPROPRIATING the Pure Versions of God in the SMs and AVs, to be in ACCURATE CONSONANCE with the DISTORTED & PERVERTED CONCEPTS of ‘Rajopradhan & Tamopradhan Bhakti’, or ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED 'Path of Devotion' - under the ACTIVE INFLUENCE of Ravan or Maya!
In short, he is ONE who is instrumental to take embodied souls on the Path towards DEGRADATION & PERDITION - soul of -Virendra Dev Dixit!

Ganika : ONE (being the 'Jagadamba' of the BLIND PBKs - KDD-S) who sings songs of praise of God (is ACTIVELY and AGGRESSIVELY INVOLVED in CHURNING and PROPAGATING the CORRUPTED & ADULTERATED, REVERSED advanced knowledge), based on DISTORTED & PERVERTED CONCEPTS of ‘Rajopradhan & Tamopradhan Bhakti’, or ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED 'Path of Devotion' - (readily APED by ALL the UNWARY PBKs), but follows the directions of the PIMP (of Ravan or Maya - being their bodily guru -Virendra Dev Dixit), and who does not know God, the way He ACTUALLY is (as a POINT source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy) - and whose offspring (the PBKs) are SPIRITUALLY, COMPLETELY BLIND & IGNORANT, just like their bodily guru, -Virendra Dev Dixit (like father, like son)!

Kubja : ONE whose back-bone (Spiritual support of 'BapDada') is broken - (being -Virendra Dev Dixit & the PBKs - the TITLE of 'Kubja' THEN going to the ONE who INITIALLY brought -Virendra Dev Dixit to the Court of Indra at Mt Abu) - who DO NOT Re-Cognize EITHER the 'Parlokik' Father (REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God), NOR the 'Alokik' Father (REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR) - ACCURATELY! So they DELUSIVELY make their support or back-bone as Ravan or Maya, MASQUERADING as 'ShivBaba', 'Paramatma', 'Supreme Soul', 'Rama', 'Bhagvan', 'Ishwar', 'Allah', 'Alif', 'Bharat', 'Prajapita Brahma', 'Vishnu', 'Shankar', 'Shiv-Shankar-Bholenath', 'Confluence Age Krishna', 'Confluence Age Narayan', etc., etc., etc. - having been TREACHEROUSLY TRICKED into DELUSIVELY believing that the Godly Form or 'Ishwariya Rup' of Ravan or Maya, is in FACT, God!!!

Thus the REAL (PRINCIPAL ADULTERATED) Trimurti of the PBKs is ACCURATELY REPRESENTED by :
Ahilya, Ganika & Kubja - PRINCIPALLY REPRESENTED by the THREE embodied souls, CLEARLY IDENTIFIED ABOVE!
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Today's Murli 30-9-16 says: " यह है कंसपुरी, मैं तुमको कृष्ण पुरी ले जाने के लिए आया हूँ।"

Which is kanspuri and which is krishnapuri in Sangamyug ?????
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Today's Murli 3-10-16 says : " यह भक्तिमार्ग वालों का गीत है। ज्ञान मार्ग में गीत आदि नहीं गाया जाता है, न बनाया जाता है, न जरूरत है क्योंकि गाया हुआ है– बाप से सेकेण्ड में जीवनमुक्ति का वर्सा मिलता है। उसमें गीत आदि की कोई बात ही नहीं। तुम जानते हो हमें बेहद के बाप से बेहद का वर्सा मिलता है। जो भक्ति मार्ग की रसम-रिवाज है, वह इसमें नहीं आ सकती।".

What is Bhakti-marg ki rasam and what is Gyan-marg ki rasam ??
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Murli 28-2-15: " यह जो बन्दरों का खिलौना दिखाते हैं-हियर नो ईविल, सी नो ईविल. .यह है मनुष्य की बात । बाप कहते हैं आसुरी बातें मत बोलो, मत सुनो, मत देखो "।

Sangamyug mei yeh asuri baatein kaun si hai ??
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sita wrote:You are spoiling the topic
बाबा ने कहा - राहू लंबी लंबी फालतू बाते बहुत बोलता है| करना वरना कुछ भी नही|

= Baba has said - "Rahu speaks very many LONG & TALL, USELESS matters, but does not do anything" (CONSTRUCTIVE or BENEVOLENT)!


= RESPONSE =

Above CONDUCT, PERFECTLY APPLIES to the 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan or Maya, 'MAHA-MURKH' -Virendra Dev Dixit, who is the UNLIMITED DoG (Defamer of God), who continues to 'BARK' the CORRUPTED & ADULTERATED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, in the Confluence Age - thereby OPPOSING, DEFAMING, INSULTING & MOCKING God PERSISTENTLY and CONSISTENTLY, while simultaneously training his EQUALLY 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND followers to be DoGs like him - LIKE Father, LIKE SON - while TREACHEROUSLY TRICKING them into DELUSIVELY believing that he is their 'Baba', since God is within him, and whatever spiritual 'GARBAGE' comes out of his BOGUS mouth, originates from God - and these MORONS ACTUALLY believe him, and conduct themselves ACCORDINGLY!!!

The UNLIMITED DoG (Defamer of God), of the Confluence Age, 'MAHA-MURKH' -Virendra Dev Dixit, speaks very many LONG & TALL, USELESS matters, but does not do anything CONSTRUCTIVE, other than RAPING the selected surrendered INNOCENT & IGNORANT 'matas & kanyas' or mothers and -sisters, while TREACHEROUSLY TRICKING them into DELUSIVELY believing that they are going to become 'sherni' or LIONESS, like 'Parvati', after physically copulating with him, after which they would be able to remember 'ShivBaba' or God EFFECTIVELY, and become pure RAPIDLY - and ALL THESE 'MAHA-MURKH', STUPID MORONS ACTUALLY believe whatever he says, because they think this originates from God, who is within him, IN SPITE of SEVERAL Pure VERSIONS, where God SPECIFICALLY ADVISES & ADVOCATES AGAINST such VILE & VICIOUS ACTS!
BKWSU SM, Revised 20.10.2016 wrote: सबसे बड़ा पाप है - काम कटारी चलाना, वह मत चलाओ। बाप कहते हैं - बच्चे हाथों से काम करते बुद्धि का योग मेरे से लगाओ। (हथ कार डे ... बुद्धि यार डे)!

The greatest sin is to use the SWORD of lust. Don't use that. The Father says: Children, while doing everything with your hands, connect your intellects in Yoga with Me.
'MAHA-MURKH' -Virendra Dev Dixit TREACHEROUSLY MISAPPROPRIATES above Version, to SUCCESSFULLY convince the POOR, INNOCENT, IGNORANT, UNSUSPECTING selected surrendered 'matas & kanyas' or mothers & -sisters, into DELUSIVELY believing that this means that they can PHYSICALLY COPULATE with him, while linking their intellects with 'ShivBaba', and since they are in remembrance of God, WHILE HE PHYSICALLY COPULATES WITH THEM, NO SIN can come EITHER to him or to them!!! And ALL SUCH MORONS, who are ASSOCIATED with him ACTUALLY believe this spiritual 'GARBAGE', based on the DISTORTED & PERVERTED CONCEPTS of 'Tamopradhan Bhakti' or DEGRADED DEVOTION of Ravan Rajya!
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