can you show from where is this pure love that is flowing from Shiva?sachkhand:
or by the simple but the most powerful Might of PURE LOVE that is flowing from The Everpure GodFather Shiv.
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can you show from where is this pure love that is flowing from Shiva?sachkhand:
or by the simple but the most powerful Might of PURE LOVE that is flowing from The Everpure GodFather Shiv.
Now, this is just trying to put words in my mouth.arjun wrote: If the above Member really feels that Shankar is lustful, then he is free to become Master Shankar, too.
Imo, hatha Yoga, is part of raj Yoga(samatwa Yoga); along with Gyan Yoga, buddhi Yoga, Bhakti Yoga, sanyas Yoga and karma Yoga. Are these not all mental states practised by raj yogis? is not Yaad pyar, the practise of Bhakti Yoga; the love and devotion of our Supreme Father in remembrance? is not churning Gyan, Gyan Yoga? Hatha Yoga, is the Yoga of discipline and determination; two qualities one cannot become nirakar without. It often takes great discipline and determination, to simply remember ShivBaba; because it is this practise, that Maya interferes with the most.Sach_Khand wrote:But the teachings of Virendra Dev Dixit is nothing but hathyoga, the mind control technique inorder to cheat our organs.
I have not put words in the above member's mouth. He himself had written that while Shankar indulges in sex, he does not allow others to do so. This is why I wrote that the above member is free to become Master Shankar if he wishes. If he does not wish to do so, it is his sweet will.sachkhand wrote:Please take care not to put words in other's mouth.
I have to agree... Sanjeev Bhai preaches a lot, but doesn't appear to be that self aware, and realise his own double standards!arjun wrote:I have not put words in the above member's mouth. He himself had written that while Shankar indulges in sex, he does not allow others to do so. This is why I wrote that the above member is free to become Master Shankar if he wishes. If he does not wish to do so, it is his sweet will. He has asked me not to put words in other's mouth, but has himself made very defamatory statements about Shankar and PBKs as if Shankar himself is lustful and his followers are also lustful but are not being allowed to become lustful. And on what basis did he write that Shankar is allowing a select few to practice lust? Does he have any proof for making such serious allegations against Baba Virendra Dev Dixit and his followers? I would also advise him to refrain from making such defamatory statements without any concrete proof.
A knowledgeable person will never threaten others but will use knowledge to overpower them. It is never said in SM or AV to address anyone with abusive terms. To use SM or AV references to backup one's views, is an indication of the power of the intellect.sachkhand wrote:
Please take care not to put words in other's mouth.
But in what do you need great discipline and determination? In controlling organs forcefully or to keep attention and get soul conscious and not to forget ShivBaba? If you follow what has been said in that VCD., it has said to control organ by changing the focus of mind while in the act of sex. This will lead to nowhere but degradation. Is it really necessary?Roy wrote: Imo, hatha Yoga, is part of raj Yoga(samatwa Yoga); along with Gyan Yoga, buddhi Yoga, Bhakti Yoga, sanyas Yoga and karma Yoga. Are these not all mental states practised by raj yogis? is not Yaad pyar, the practise of Bhakti Yoga; the love and devotion of our Supreme Father in remembrance? is not churning Gyan, Gyan Yoga? Hatha Yoga, is the Yoga of discipline and determination; two qualities one cannot become nirakar without. It often takes great discipline and determination, to simply remember ShivBaba; because it is this practise, that Maya interferes with the most.
Roy
sachkhand wrote: Please take care not to put words in other's mouth.
I find no connection between the quote of sachkhand (myself) made by pbkindiana and the reply of pbkindiana.pbkindiana wrote:A knowledgeable person will never threaten others but will use knowledge to overpower them. It is never said in SM or AV to address anyone with abusive terms. To use SM or AV references to backup one's views, is an indication of the power of the intellect.
I think the usage of hard words is allowed in this forum when the administrator himself has called the PBKs as idiots.
indie.
Arjun and Roy,arjun wrote: I have not put words in the above member's mouth. He himself had written that while Shankar indulges in sex, he does not allow others to do so. This is why I wrote that the above member is free to become Master Shankar if he wishes. If he does not wish to do so, it is his sweet will.
He has asked me not to put words in other's mouth, but has himself made very defamatory statements about Shankar and PBKs as if Shankar himself is lustful and his followers are also lustful but are not being allowed to become lustful. And on what basis did he write that Shankar is allowing a select few to practice lust? Does he have any proof for making such serious allegations against Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit and his followers? I would also advise him to refrain from making such defamatory statements without any concrete proof.
OGS,
Arjun
arjun wrote: If the above Member really feels that Shankar is lustful,
So, once again I tell both of you not to put words in my mouth. I hope you understand.sach_khand wrote: When I do not even consider Veerendra Dev Dixit as Shankar how is it that I consider Shankar as lustful? I have clearly stated in the Trimurti post that in my opinion Shankar is a subtle deity and that is not Veerendra Dev Dixit who is having his own physical gross body. So, no question of considering the acts of Veerendra Dev Dixit to be the acts of Shankar, the subtle deity.
What kind of proofs do you need? Should there has to be a video which can be put in the youtube for everyone to see as is done of Peacocks mating process?arjun wrote: Does he have any proof for making such serious allegations against Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit and his followers? I would also advise him to refrain from making such defamatory statements without any concrete proof.
OGS,
Arjun
Stop asking childish questions.pbkindiana wrote: can you show from where is this pure love that is flowing from Shiva?
indie.
The above Member is free to consider Baba Virendra Dev Dixit as lustful and to interpret Baba's words in whatever way he wishes.sachkhand wrote:I had not put that discussion VCD* on this forum where Veerendra Dev Dixit has talked about such acts. For what reason does he preach all such things?
I think you need to be very sure you know what you are talking about, before you put it forward as fact, that Baba Dixit, indulges in sex-lust. Yes, one of the examples He(ShivBaba) gave, of being beyond the act you are performing(this is not necessarily a hatha Yoga practise anyway, but a powerful nirakar stage), was quite provocative imo; but it in no way confirmed, or even necessarily suggested, that this is something Baba Dixit practises himself. I only went that way with my query, because of the comments you made in your original posting of this clarification Murli... it was not necessarily the way i would have interpreted the clarification, on my own. The act of destroying the world, will be seen as the black part of the shyam-sunder role by many; and it may this act ShivBaba is actually talking about, that Shankar has to be completely detached from, in the nirakar stage... it may have nothing to do with sex-lust at all, imo.Sach_Khand wrote:I had not put that discussion VCD on this forum where Virendra Dev Dixit has talked about such acts. For what reason does he preach all such things?
And tell your good friend to stop posting childish statements or his imaginary views wihtout any backup of SM.sachkhand wrote:
Stop asking childish questions.
roy Bhai,roy wrote:Nice point Arjun Bhai! However, it the reference to the act of impurity that causes destruction, that is so intriguing; and the fact that Baba mentions sex-organs, a little further on in the clarification. Sanjeev Bhai has taken this as proof, that Baba Dixit enjoys a sexual life, which i, am in no way convinced of. But this impure act question still remains. Have you any thoughts on this particular aspect of the clarification? Shankar in Bhakti marg, is shown to be a blue colour, which i believe represents the poison he has swallowed, which Baba mentions in this clarifiction. Fascinating stuff indeed!
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