Deities vs. demons

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Deities vs. demons

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Deities receive power from God. Demons have their own power.

Deities have the power of concentration. Demons have the power of expansion.
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Andrey wrote:Deities receive power from God. Demons have their own power.
I apreciate that when a PBK writes, they are generally writing metaphorically about "Brahmin" matters and not generally about spiritual matters. So are the demons you are talking about here "demoniac" elements within the BKWSU or humanity as a whole?

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Does humanity as a whole know God? Brahmin world is no different to the outside world.
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Andrey wrote:Does humanity as a whole know God? Brahmin world is no different to the outside world.
That is a non-answer, andrey. Unless you are writing in a secret code that only PBKs would understand. But is it according to the Knowledge?

Did not the demons receive their power from "God" last Kalpa and are they not just using it up fulfilling their wishes now? Or do the BKWSU/demons have their own source of power?

So are you saying that the PBKs are concentrating and the BKs expanding? Or that expansion is bad? Or what?
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Dear brother,

It is you that have said that PBKs are deities and BK are demons. There are both deities and demons in the BK, PBK and the outside world. Yes, there is one Father for both. Whoever has courage receives help. But deities follow Shrimat. Shrimat comes from God. Demons act as they wish.

All human beings have become demons, because they don't have Shrimat. With Shrimat they become deities. Deities give and take happiness. Demons give and take sorrow. The new world is a concentrated small world. Now the whole world is into expansion and the mind is into expansion. The mind is full of sorrow and the world is full of sorrow. The mind becomes concentrated and the world changes.

Deities change easily through signal. Demons change after being told over and over again. Even then they don't. It is said one can attach a stick to the curved tail of a dog for 12 years. It can stay straight with the help of the stick, but if the stick is removed it becomes curved again.

With the help of God deities create heaven for themselves and others. Demons gather amongst themselves to create hell. Deities enter heaven and demons enter heaven in a form of deities, however later on their nature changes. Deities like unity and unadultaration. This is where happiness lies. Demons like adulteration and separation through which the world becomes hell-like world.
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ex-l wrote:I apreciate that when a PBK writes, they are generally writing metaphorically about "Brahmin" matters and not generally about spiritual matters. So are the demons you are talking about here "demoniac" elements within the BKWSU or humanity as a whole?
Dear brother, Om Shanti. Yes, when we are talking about deities and demons we are talking about the Brahmin world only and not about the outside world.

When the BKs talk about deities and demons they compare themselves with the outside world, which they feel is dominated by demoniac human beings.

Similarly, when the PBKs talk of deities and demons they compare themselves with the BK world, which they feel is dominated by demoniac Brahmins. But that does not mean that all PBKs are deities. It is only a comparison to explain the mythological stories. It is depicted in the mythological stories that the deities were always overpowered by the demons who used to become powerful through the powers achieved through hard penance. The deities used to be saved only in the end when one of the three deities, i.e. Brahma, Vishnu or Shankar came to their rescue.

It is written in the mythological stories that when the churning of ocean was taking place the deities caught hold of the tail of the snake (being used for churning) and the demons caught hold of the mouth of the snake. It means that the deity souls are the ones who follow the Shrimat of God and the demoniac souls are those who keep arguing on the words of God. It is pertinent to note that the mouth portion of the snake that demons caught hold of produces poison.

Baba says that Ram and Ravan community (of the epic Ramayana) is present in the Confluence Age only (within the Brahmin family itself). He also says that the Kauravas and Pandavas, who were cousins, in the epic Mahabharata are also present in the Confluence Age only. It is hardly surprising then that all the groups which have emerged from among the PBKs since 1997/98 have a single point agenda to prove the PBKs to belong to the Ravan community, while their group happens to be the Ram community.

Ultimately, it is the practical actions that will prove who belongs to the Ram community and who belongs to the Ravan community.

With regards,
OGS,
Arjun
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