Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs
VCD No.947, Cassette No.1433, dated 19.06.08 at TPgudem
Clarification of Murli dated 7 & 8.5.68
Part-I
Om Shanti. Today’s night class is dated 7th May, 1968. The Chariot (rath) and the rider (rathi) both come together. The rath as well as the rathi come. It will not be said that – the rath came; (and) the rathi did not come. So, towards whom does the children’s remembrance go? Do they first remember the rath; or the rathi or the charioteer (saarthi) Father? First is the rath, then is the rathi or the saarthi. The eyes look at the rath, and the remembrance is of the rathi – this is correct.
Shivjayanti or Shivratri is celebrated. Earlier we did not know – why is shivratri celebrated? When did He come and in whom did He come? We did not think about it. Now He has come and has given His introduction. Now the children know that Baba exists and it is only Baba who teaches. We also have to become pure by remembering the Father. We develop faith and understand that when we become pure we will not live here. A pure world is required. Even the one who gives jeevanmukti (liberation from pain and sorrow while being alive) is the one highest on high. So, we also have to remember Him. The soul knows that – we become (the children) of the highest on high through this journey of remembrance. The more we make special effort for the soul (purusharth), we will go on becoming satopradhan (dominated by the quality of goodness and purity) to that extent. There is no other way.
The soul has to be transformed from tamopradhan (dominated by the quality of darkness or ignorance) to satopradhan. The sinful one, the tamopradhan one has to be made pure, satopradhaan. The sinful one is called tamopradhan and the pure one is called satopradhaan. The soul as well as the body was satopradhan. Now the soul goes on becoming satopradhan as well. The soul alone is called a sinful soul or a noble soul because the good and bad sanskars are contained in the soul alone. Children have become firm about this topic. They have also developed the faith that – this is the last one of our many births. Children also believe in 84 births. They also know that – there is no way other than becoming pure. Now we make special efforts for the soul only to become pure.
Only those who do purusharth (special effort for the soul) have taken complete 84 births. If they do not do complete purusharth, if they do not do it for the soul, then they do not take complete 84 births either. This (cycle of) 84 (births) has to be repeated again. The soul alone has to repeat (this cycle) and it keeps repeating. Children have been explained, “you have taken 84 births.” Now you have to return (home) and then repeat (your part here). So, the thought of the new capital will come in the memory of the children as well. Their kingdom is being established once again as it was earlier. There cannot be any change in that and there is no question of asking ‘how will it be the same capital’ either. The capital has been established many times. So, leaving aside all the questions, you have to do purusharth to remain on the journey of remembrance. You will become satopradhaan, pure only through this.
Children also know that whatever has passed so far has to be certainly repeated. All the part is filled in the souls, which is seen as visions. There is every kind of record filled in the soul. That keeps repeating. You have also to pay good attention to the drama. There remains no need for anyone to ask questions. He will go on speaking whatever record has been filled in His soul. He keeps telling automatically. There cannot be any difference in this either. Everyone has played a part of 84 births. The part that was played Kalpa (cycle) ago; the way in which you had studied, and (the knowledge) was taught, He keeps teaching in the same way. There is no need for questions to arise in this at all. There is no need to be confused too.
The main issue is to become pure. You say – purify us sinful ones. There was the rule of these very children in the pure world. That will certainly happen again. That is why you are taught Rajyog. The Father gives Shrimat. A lot of refineness is required in this. When the soul becomes refined, then you receive a refined body too. And you also rule in a refined way; that is why the name of that very kingdom is swarg, heaven. This knowledge is the best among all the knowledges and the ‘most easy’ one.
The Father says –“if you follow my direction; then I guarantee that your sins will be destroyed and you will also become like this Lakshmi and Narayan.” You even say, “We will become Lakshmi and Narayan.” It is indeed the story of true Narayan, the story of immortality (amarkatha). You become the masters of the abode of immortality (amarpuri). You children have this third eye of knowledge now too. And as for the rest, the students study numberwise. They do make special efforts for the soul to study, but some make it in some way and the others in the other way. The record of the part of all the souls has been filled. It cannot be changed even a little. That is why Baba says, “This is a very deep knowledge and it is natural. Then this knowledge almost disappears in the new world. You carry the sanskars of Rajyog. That is why the more you remain in remembrance and make others like you, you will attain a higher birth to that extent.
The children, who have left (the Yagya) early, have not departed in a karmateet (beyond the effect of actions) stage because they were lacking in Yoga; so they left their bodies early. When will those, whose Yoga is firm, leave their bodies? They will leave their bodies in the end voluntarily. There is a deficiency of knowledge and Yoga. Although unique (ananya) children depart; why did they depart? It is because there was a deficiency in Yoga as per the drama. It is possible that the soul had the sanskars, had the deficiency. On one hand they will receive a good birth and if the soul will be filled with the sanskars of Brahminism then the activity of the soul would be high. Wherever they go they will cast an influence. There is a power of knowledge and Yoga.
Now the children know – now our life becomes joyful. Now the sorrowful life ends. You also know that we are making special efforts for the soul; the garden receives water; you receive water as well. The Father gives to the children as well as the children give to the (other) children. They give the water of knowledge, don’t they? There are nice words too. The eyes meet the eyes. That is why Baba says, “ you should not close these eyes.” They either doze off or keep remembering many. I think that they certainly remember numerous people like the friends and the relatives etc. Here it is the praise, ‘nazar say nihaal kinda pyara sadguru (the dear Sadguru made us content through his vision) This is the only sadguru who makes everyone contented. He causes the true salvation of everyone. This activity goes on, does it not? Which is then praised in the path of worship.
This Father is very dear. There is nothing higher than Him. Children also know that, we meet the Father in every Kalpa. He comes in every Kalpa and makes us renounce in an unlimited sense. Nobody else can enable anyone to practice such wonderful, unique renunciation. Neither does anyone know about this renunciation in an unlimited sense : how it takes place. You children know : now we have to leave this body and return home. You should not remember any thing of the old world. There is a lot of hard work involved in it. You have to forget all the relationships including the body ................(to be continued)
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Note: The words in italics are Hindi words. Some words have been added in the brackets by the translator for better understanding of the translation.
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VCD* No.947, Cassette No.1433, dated 19.06.08 at TPgudem
Clarification of Murli dated 7 & 8.5.68
Part-II
.....Consider yourself to be a soul and remember Me. Only this subject is the toughest subject. Now-a-days Baba is laying more stress on this. When the stress (on this subject) is continuously laid, the name and form will not come in the intellect. Then you will remember only the Father. You have to set this state by doing hard work to stay in the soul conscious stage and you have to churn the ocean of thoughts. If you do not understand something, then you can even ask Baba. Certainly He is called the purifier of the sinful ones, the Almighty. Their battery is charging always, while standing, while sitting, while eating and drinking. Just as Baba gives the example of a lover and the beloved. Next is that lover and the beloved (who remain vice less) and at the third (position) are the lovers and beloved who love for the sake of lust.
Everybody’s true salvation has been praised only in the Confluence Age. There is no need to be confused in these subjects. People think that Bhakti has been continuing as a tradition. Children understand that, from when did Bhakti begin accurately (i.e. actually)? The Father says, “ Only some rare ones develop faith after seeing the ordinary form of this Chariot.” It is praised as well, “Establishment through Brahma.” This kingdom will not be established by any one person, will it ? Is kingdom formed through one? Yes, the one gives the direction, “do like this.”
Prajapita is praised as well as all these Brahmin children are adopted. In the Golden Age deities are so (deities) only through the power of Yoga. Ravan does not exist there. You have to inculcate such points so that you will be able to narrate in time that, Ravan does not exist there. The Father is almighty. By developing Yoga with Him we become the masters of the world through this power of Yoga. Physical power leads to only destruction. Those who will use physical power will be destroyed. Establishment takes place through the power of Yoga. So, those with the power of Yoga will achieve kingship. The capital is established, isn’t it? So, look there is so much difference between the physical power and spiritual power. That physical power has been continuing for 63 births; and this power of Yoga is received only now in the Confluence Age.
This is attention in both: remembrance as well as studies. Remembrance is required as well as knowledge is required everyday. You keep receiving all kinds of arrangements too. You purify the entire world through the power of Yoga. So, is it a big issue to purify this food, etc.? The very main issue is to become pure. You know that – the new world was satopradhan. That satopradhan world will be repeated (i.e. established again); so, you will certainly have to become satopradhan.
Baba tells (us) the accurate method of becoming satopradhan. He tells it (to us) in every Kalpa. To speak the mouth is required as well. Gau mukh (cow’s mouth) is praised as well. Certainly the cow’s mouth exists too. He adopts many through this one (the cow). So, the cow happens to be the mother. He says in laughingly, “I have adopted so many.” OK, so, who will be called the mother (amba) of the world? (She is) the one whose Father is the Father of the souls. And as for the rest, a mother is required. Many go to Amba (the Mother), but those who go do not understand even a little as to ultimately who is the mother? Many big temples have been made. When there are people who utter ‘Amba, Amba’; so, certainly there would be a mother in an unlimited sense. You receive unlimited emperorship from the unlimited mother. Then you become Maharaja-Maharani (emperor-empress). You seek money from her every year. From whom? Arey, from whom do you seek money on every Dipawali (a festival in the Hindu religion)? Yes, from Lakshmi. The same becomes Rajrajeshwari. The same is Mama.
At this time you know that we are with Mama. Then we will be with Lakshmi and Narayan. Here you achieve gems. These gems carry more value whose (value) cannot be described through anyone. The Father is roop (form) as well as He brings about the rain of knowledge . (For) half a Kalpa (there is) Bhakti and for half a Kalpa (there is) knowledge. Now you know the secret of the beginning, middle and end of the entire world. So, children should study so nicely. Here you become refreshed while being face to face. You feel that we are sitting in the lap of Baba , Baba is teaching us. There is a marshall of the Pandava army as well, who takes all the souls along with him. Who is it? Arey, has any marshall been shown taking all the souls with him? All the souls go together. This is the marriage party of Shiv. Is the marriage party of Shankar or is the marriage party of Shiv? (Someone said – it is the marriage party of Shiv) Why? In the upper portion of the picture of the Kalpa Tree, the souls that are (shown to be) going along with the Marshall, they are going in the form of a military. How is it a marriage party of Shiv? This is a marriage party of brother-like souls which follow the Father. OK, spiritual BapDada’s remembrance, love and goodnight to the sweet, spiritual, long lost and now found children. Namaste of the spiritual Father to the spiritual children. Om Shanti.
Today is the morning class dated 8th May, 1968. The unlimited Father explains to the unlimited children; and what does He explain? He explains the history of the beginning, middle and end of this unlimited world. The unlimited Father is incorporeal. He does come in a corporeal form, but the one who explains is incorporeal. He can certainly explain by taking a body. No work can be done without the body. The Father says, “I am an ocean of knowledge, but how will I narrate the knowledge? I definitely need a Chariot. I come in this one (Chariot) every Kalpa and explain to the children. O children! I have to take the support of this body.” What does ‘have to’ mean? ‘Have to’ means that there is a compulsion (majboori). In order to purify the sinful ones, He has to come only in a sinful thorn. And He cannot talk without a body either.
The children also understand that the residence of us souls is very far. It is beyond the Sun and the Moon too. This Sun, this Moon and these stars are the lights of this theatre (naatakshala). They are the lamps that supply light. We souls are the ones who live very far away from them, where there is no sorrow, no shadow of the Sun, the Moon and the stars either. It is such a small soul, faster than even the rocket etc. They write – such aeroplanes have been built that travel faster than sound. The Father explains, “the soul is faster than everything.” Nothing can be faster than it. It crosses the world completely. The soul leaves the body here and in a second it goes and takes birth at such a far distance. It reaches from one place to another in a second.
The Father has also shown the path of the home to the children. The Supreme Soul Father is giving this knowledge to you souls. It is the soul that plays the entire part. It is the soul that does Bhakti as well as it is the soul that studies through these organs. The Father explains to the children, “firstly consider yourself to be a soul and also consider that all these are brothers.” All the souls are brothers, are they not? ... (Continued)
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Note: The words in italics are Hindi words. Some words have been added in the brackets by the translator for better understanding of the translation.
VCD* No.947, Cassette No.1433, dated 19.06.08 at TPgudem
Clarification of Murli dated 7 & 8.5.68
Part-II
.....Consider yourself to be a soul and remember Me. Only this subject is the toughest subject. Now-a-days Baba is laying more stress on this. When the stress (on this subject) is continuously laid, the name and form will not come in the intellect. Then you will remember only the Father. You have to set this state by doing hard work to stay in the soul conscious stage and you have to churn the ocean of thoughts. If you do not understand something, then you can even ask Baba. Certainly He is called the purifier of the sinful ones, the Almighty. Their battery is charging always, while standing, while sitting, while eating and drinking. Just as Baba gives the example of a lover and the beloved. Next is that lover and the beloved (who remain vice less) and at the third (position) are the lovers and beloved who love for the sake of lust.
Everybody’s true salvation has been praised only in the Confluence Age. There is no need to be confused in these subjects. People think that Bhakti has been continuing as a tradition. Children understand that, from when did Bhakti begin accurately (i.e. actually)? The Father says, “ Only some rare ones develop faith after seeing the ordinary form of this Chariot.” It is praised as well, “Establishment through Brahma.” This kingdom will not be established by any one person, will it ? Is kingdom formed through one? Yes, the one gives the direction, “do like this.”
Prajapita is praised as well as all these Brahmin children are adopted. In the Golden Age deities are so (deities) only through the power of Yoga. Ravan does not exist there. You have to inculcate such points so that you will be able to narrate in time that, Ravan does not exist there. The Father is almighty. By developing Yoga with Him we become the masters of the world through this power of Yoga. Physical power leads to only destruction. Those who will use physical power will be destroyed. Establishment takes place through the power of Yoga. So, those with the power of Yoga will achieve kingship. The capital is established, isn’t it? So, look there is so much difference between the physical power and spiritual power. That physical power has been continuing for 63 births; and this power of Yoga is received only now in the Confluence Age.
This is attention in both: remembrance as well as studies. Remembrance is required as well as knowledge is required everyday. You keep receiving all kinds of arrangements too. You purify the entire world through the power of Yoga. So, is it a big issue to purify this food, etc.? The very main issue is to become pure. You know that – the new world was satopradhan. That satopradhan world will be repeated (i.e. established again); so, you will certainly have to become satopradhan.
Baba tells (us) the accurate method of becoming satopradhan. He tells it (to us) in every Kalpa. To speak the mouth is required as well. Gau mukh (cow’s mouth) is praised as well. Certainly the cow’s mouth exists too. He adopts many through this one (the cow). So, the cow happens to be the mother. He says in laughingly, “I have adopted so many.” OK, so, who will be called the mother (amba) of the world? (She is) the one whose Father is the Father of the souls. And as for the rest, a mother is required. Many go to Amba (the Mother), but those who go do not understand even a little as to ultimately who is the mother? Many big temples have been made. When there are people who utter ‘Amba, Amba’; so, certainly there would be a mother in an unlimited sense. You receive unlimited emperorship from the unlimited mother. Then you become Maharaja-Maharani (emperor-empress). You seek money from her every year. From whom? Arey, from whom do you seek money on every Dipawali (a festival in the Hindu religion)? Yes, from Lakshmi. The same becomes Rajrajeshwari. The same is Mama.
At this time you know that we are with Mama. Then we will be with Lakshmi and Narayan. Here you achieve gems. These gems carry more value whose (value) cannot be described through anyone. The Father is roop (form) as well as He brings about the rain of knowledge . (For) half a Kalpa (there is) Bhakti and for half a Kalpa (there is) knowledge. Now you know the secret of the beginning, middle and end of the entire world. So, children should study so nicely. Here you become refreshed while being face to face. You feel that we are sitting in the lap of Baba , Baba is teaching us. There is a marshall of the Pandava army as well, who takes all the souls along with him. Who is it? Arey, has any marshall been shown taking all the souls with him? All the souls go together. This is the marriage party of Shiv. Is the marriage party of Shankar or is the marriage party of Shiv? (Someone said – it is the marriage party of Shiv) Why? In the upper portion of the picture of the Kalpa Tree, the souls that are (shown to be) going along with the Marshall, they are going in the form of a military. How is it a marriage party of Shiv? This is a marriage party of brother-like souls which follow the Father. OK, spiritual BapDada’s remembrance, love and goodnight to the sweet, spiritual, long lost and now found children. Namaste of the spiritual Father to the spiritual children. Om Shanti.
Today is the morning class dated 8th May, 1968. The unlimited Father explains to the unlimited children; and what does He explain? He explains the history of the beginning, middle and end of this unlimited world. The unlimited Father is incorporeal. He does come in a corporeal form, but the one who explains is incorporeal. He can certainly explain by taking a body. No work can be done without the body. The Father says, “I am an ocean of knowledge, but how will I narrate the knowledge? I definitely need a Chariot. I come in this one (Chariot) every Kalpa and explain to the children. O children! I have to take the support of this body.” What does ‘have to’ mean? ‘Have to’ means that there is a compulsion (majboori). In order to purify the sinful ones, He has to come only in a sinful thorn. And He cannot talk without a body either.
The children also understand that the residence of us souls is very far. It is beyond the Sun and the Moon too. This Sun, this Moon and these stars are the lights of this theatre (naatakshala). They are the lamps that supply light. We souls are the ones who live very far away from them, where there is no sorrow, no shadow of the Sun, the Moon and the stars either. It is such a small soul, faster than even the rocket etc. They write – such aeroplanes have been built that travel faster than sound. The Father explains, “the soul is faster than everything.” Nothing can be faster than it. It crosses the world completely. The soul leaves the body here and in a second it goes and takes birth at such a far distance. It reaches from one place to another in a second.
The Father has also shown the path of the home to the children. The Supreme Soul Father is giving this knowledge to you souls. It is the soul that plays the entire part. It is the soul that does Bhakti as well as it is the soul that studies through these organs. The Father explains to the children, “firstly consider yourself to be a soul and also consider that all these are brothers.” All the souls are brothers, are they not? ... (Continued)
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Note: The words in italics are Hindi words. Some words have been added in the brackets by the translator for better understanding of the translation.
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VCD** No.947, Cassette No.1433, dated 19.06.08 at TPgudem
Clarification of Murli dated 7 & 8.5.68
Part-III
.......The Father comes and teaches the souls. What was said? (Someone said – The Father teaches) And what about the mother? When He teaches through the mother, does He not teach the souls? When the entire rust of the needle-like soul is removed then you children will learn directly from the Father. It means that when the Father comes He teaches only the souls, who have passed in achieving the soul conscious stage. Only those who have basically completed the practice of considering themselves to be a soul are worthy of studying from the Father. And through whom do those, who are unable to pass in the soul conscious stage, and who live in body consciousness, study? They study through the mother. Actually it is the Father Himself who teaches through the mother as well as He teaches the same thing ‘to consider yourself to be a soul’. This is the unlimited Father. He explains, “I nurture you children much more as compared to the love that you receive from the limited Father or the happiness that he does thinking of to give you.” That is why you call, “O Baba, come! Come and take us to the abode of peace (shantidhaam), abode of happiness (sukhdhaam).” At first we are the residents of the abode of peace and then we come to the abode of happiness.
Now we are in the old kingdom. We are in the alien kingdom of Ravan. Any other human being doesn’t think like this. They do not seize, but their kingdom of Ravan is established. The kingdom of Ravan is praised as well. Ravan is also called an enemy. They think, “Ramrajya (the kingdom of Ram) is better than Ravan Rajya (the kingdom of Ravan)”. Anybody can understand this. There is immense happiness in the kingdom of Ram, but everyone will not be present there. Also this should be understood. The children have been explained the knowledge of the (Kalpa) tree as well as the knowledge of the cycle (World wheel drama).
The children know, “when we live in the Golden Age, then all other souls reside in the abode of peace. There is no name or trace of sorrows for anyone. Neither for those living in the abode of peace nor for those living in the abode of happiness. There in the abode of happiness you have peace as well as happiness. And the rest of all live in Brahmaand (the Supreme abode). So, Brahmaand is not called the world. The meaning of every word has to be understood. When someone has a lot of wealth, then human beings think, “they have the intoxication of Maya.” Actually, wealth is not called Maya. The five vices are called Maya. The wealth is called property . It will not be said, “he is proud of Maya.” One does not feel proud of the vices. The words that human beings bring in use are wrong too. The Father sits and explains all these issues.
The unlimited Father comes and gives you so much wealth. There is no question of blessings etc. for this wealth. This is the study. There is no blessing involved in studies. You know that we bless ourselves through study. It is not even so that we keep seeking blessings and kindness from the teacher again and again. The Father says, “asking for blessings or kindness are all issues of the path of Bhakti (devotion). The Father comes and teaches knowledge. He does not give blessings or show mercy and whom does He teach? To the souls. He also gives the knowledge of the soul to the soul. The human beings do not even know what is meant by a soul? All the souls are so many ; everyone has his own part. Everyone has received his imperishable part and it has been continuing since eternity. This is also something to be understood properly.
You are actors in an unlimited sense and you are imperishable actors. They are actors in a limited sense. The knowledge of the cycle of the entire world is fitted into your intellect. Only the soul imbibes it. The body perishes. The soul is imperishable. The entire part is filled in that soul. You hear all these new isues from the new Father. It has been written in Gita, “Krishna Bhagwaanuvaach (God Krishna spoke).” You hear new issues here that we listen from the incorporeal Supreme Father Supreme Soul, the ocean of knowledge ShivBaba. We do not listen from the corporeal Krishna. Corporeal (saakaar) means the one whose intellect remains focused on the body , om the bodily being (dehdhaari); and niraakar (incorporeal) means the one whose intellect does not remain focused on the body. Neither in the body, nor in the things related to the body, nor in the relatives of the body. Even then the name has been inserted; it has been written in Gita; even then the name has been inserted – Krishna Bhagwaanuvaach. You hear new topic here. This is Bhagwaanuvaach (God spoke). Niraakaar Bhagwaanuvaach ( the incorporeal God spoke). Not Krishna Bhagwaanuvaach. This is a very big mistake because of which the Indians have themselves divided their own scriptures.
Second page of the Vani dated 8th May, 1968. You have slapped yourself and have have fallen down. You children understand that this is the biggest mistake. The (scripture) that is the Mother and the Father of all the scriptures have been falsified; so all others have become false as well. Who else? The religious fathers have also become false as well as all the religions have become false.
The Father explains this too; “the inheritance is received through the creator.” All the rest are creation. The inheritance of happiness and peace is not received through the creation. No religious Father was able to give the inheritance of happiness and peace. Also the Lokik Father is a creator. Children receive limited inheritance from the lokik Father. A son obtains the inheritance of lokik Father. The daughter goes to another home and here? Here the unlimited Father says, “All of you souls have the right to obtain inheritance from us.” I give the inheritance to all you souls. I do not see whether he is a son or a daughter. So, here, there is no question of a son or a daughter.
All of you are souls; you study from the Father. The more someone studies, he will get a post in future accordingly; that is why now the Father says, “ one thing is that you consider yourself to be a soul.” Develop this firm faith. You become body conscious repeatedly. So, the first lesson is, “I soul have to become soul conscious.” I a soul am a form of peace .” Our very self religion is peace. This peace cannot be obtained in any jungle. You may have to consider yourself to be a soul. The self religion of a soul is peace You have come here in this world to play your part. You have not at allcome to go and sit in the abode of peace. This world is a place to play a part. Here you you will not at all be able to live in peace. This is certainly the place to play our parts. And as for the rest this is the kingdom of Ravan; therefore, there is sorrow here. Had it been the kingdom of Ram, there would have been happiness here too.
There is happiness as well as peace there because it is a kingdom of Ram. Here there is sorrow and restlessness in this world. So, do you seek peace for this birth? Or do you seek peace for many births? If you want peace for many births, then you can attain that peace in the abode of peace. Do you require only peace or happiness as well? Actually it is an unlawful issue to seek only peace. In the Golden Age you attain both happiness as well as peace. So, the Father has explained, “the Sanyasis, who follow the path of renunciation, cannot give both happiness and peace because they consider the happiness of heaven to be like the excreta of crow (kaagvishtha). They say, “we do not want the happiness of heaven.” So, you cannot achieve peace as well as happiness from them. This inheritance is received only from the unlimited Father. But you certainly require purity for this. Even that inheritance of purity cannot be given by one human being to another human being, except the Father.
Purity alone is called true salvation (sadgati). Impurity is called degradation (durgati). Where does the mind wander? It wanders in impurity. Where does the body wander? The body too wanders in impurity; that is why it has been said, “purity is called true salvation.” You will achieve true salvation only when you become pure. Here it is the Iron-Age sinful world. You keep degrading. It is only the sinful human beings who live in the sinful world. There cannot be a single pure person in the sinful world. The pure world is entirely different and the sinful world is entirely different. Heaven is a pure world and the hell is a sinful world.
There cannot be even a single pure person in the sinful world and there cannot be a single impure person in the pure world. What was said? Then how will the pure world arrive? If you die in the sinful world, then you will take birth in the sinful world; if you die in the pure world, then you will take birth in the pure world. Now, there is no pure world at all. Arey, how will the pure world arrive so that we could take birth in the pure world? Here it is a sinful world and nothing else. (Someone said – the Father has come to make us pure ) How will we become pure when the world is indeed sinful. Npt even a sigle person is pure in the sinful world. Although not even a single person is pure in the sinful world, but while living in the sinful world, the thoughts of the mind can be made pure; (at least) our atmosphere can become pure. The gathering of the ones whose atmosphere becomes such pure will become different; their very world will become different. OK, Om Shanti. .................. (concluded)
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Note: The words in italics are Hindi words. Some words have been added in the brackets by the translator for better understanding of the translation.
VCD** No.947, Cassette No.1433, dated 19.06.08 at TPgudem
Clarification of Murli dated 7 & 8.5.68
Part-III
.......The Father comes and teaches the souls. What was said? (Someone said – The Father teaches) And what about the mother? When He teaches through the mother, does He not teach the souls? When the entire rust of the needle-like soul is removed then you children will learn directly from the Father. It means that when the Father comes He teaches only the souls, who have passed in achieving the soul conscious stage. Only those who have basically completed the practice of considering themselves to be a soul are worthy of studying from the Father. And through whom do those, who are unable to pass in the soul conscious stage, and who live in body consciousness, study? They study through the mother. Actually it is the Father Himself who teaches through the mother as well as He teaches the same thing ‘to consider yourself to be a soul’. This is the unlimited Father. He explains, “I nurture you children much more as compared to the love that you receive from the limited Father or the happiness that he does thinking of to give you.” That is why you call, “O Baba, come! Come and take us to the abode of peace (shantidhaam), abode of happiness (sukhdhaam).” At first we are the residents of the abode of peace and then we come to the abode of happiness.
Now we are in the old kingdom. We are in the alien kingdom of Ravan. Any other human being doesn’t think like this. They do not seize, but their kingdom of Ravan is established. The kingdom of Ravan is praised as well. Ravan is also called an enemy. They think, “Ramrajya (the kingdom of Ram) is better than Ravan Rajya (the kingdom of Ravan)”. Anybody can understand this. There is immense happiness in the kingdom of Ram, but everyone will not be present there. Also this should be understood. The children have been explained the knowledge of the (Kalpa) tree as well as the knowledge of the cycle (World wheel drama).
The children know, “when we live in the Golden Age, then all other souls reside in the abode of peace. There is no name or trace of sorrows for anyone. Neither for those living in the abode of peace nor for those living in the abode of happiness. There in the abode of happiness you have peace as well as happiness. And the rest of all live in Brahmaand (the Supreme abode). So, Brahmaand is not called the world. The meaning of every word has to be understood. When someone has a lot of wealth, then human beings think, “they have the intoxication of Maya.” Actually, wealth is not called Maya. The five vices are called Maya. The wealth is called property . It will not be said, “he is proud of Maya.” One does not feel proud of the vices. The words that human beings bring in use are wrong too. The Father sits and explains all these issues.
The unlimited Father comes and gives you so much wealth. There is no question of blessings etc. for this wealth. This is the study. There is no blessing involved in studies. You know that we bless ourselves through study. It is not even so that we keep seeking blessings and kindness from the teacher again and again. The Father says, “asking for blessings or kindness are all issues of the path of Bhakti (devotion). The Father comes and teaches knowledge. He does not give blessings or show mercy and whom does He teach? To the souls. He also gives the knowledge of the soul to the soul. The human beings do not even know what is meant by a soul? All the souls are so many ; everyone has his own part. Everyone has received his imperishable part and it has been continuing since eternity. This is also something to be understood properly.
You are actors in an unlimited sense and you are imperishable actors. They are actors in a limited sense. The knowledge of the cycle of the entire world is fitted into your intellect. Only the soul imbibes it. The body perishes. The soul is imperishable. The entire part is filled in that soul. You hear all these new isues from the new Father. It has been written in Gita, “Krishna Bhagwaanuvaach (God Krishna spoke).” You hear new issues here that we listen from the incorporeal Supreme Father Supreme Soul, the ocean of knowledge ShivBaba. We do not listen from the corporeal Krishna. Corporeal (saakaar) means the one whose intellect remains focused on the body , om the bodily being (dehdhaari); and niraakar (incorporeal) means the one whose intellect does not remain focused on the body. Neither in the body, nor in the things related to the body, nor in the relatives of the body. Even then the name has been inserted; it has been written in Gita; even then the name has been inserted – Krishna Bhagwaanuvaach. You hear new topic here. This is Bhagwaanuvaach (God spoke). Niraakaar Bhagwaanuvaach ( the incorporeal God spoke). Not Krishna Bhagwaanuvaach. This is a very big mistake because of which the Indians have themselves divided their own scriptures.
Second page of the Vani dated 8th May, 1968. You have slapped yourself and have have fallen down. You children understand that this is the biggest mistake. The (scripture) that is the Mother and the Father of all the scriptures have been falsified; so all others have become false as well. Who else? The religious fathers have also become false as well as all the religions have become false.
The Father explains this too; “the inheritance is received through the creator.” All the rest are creation. The inheritance of happiness and peace is not received through the creation. No religious Father was able to give the inheritance of happiness and peace. Also the Lokik Father is a creator. Children receive limited inheritance from the lokik Father. A son obtains the inheritance of lokik Father. The daughter goes to another home and here? Here the unlimited Father says, “All of you souls have the right to obtain inheritance from us.” I give the inheritance to all you souls. I do not see whether he is a son or a daughter. So, here, there is no question of a son or a daughter.
All of you are souls; you study from the Father. The more someone studies, he will get a post in future accordingly; that is why now the Father says, “ one thing is that you consider yourself to be a soul.” Develop this firm faith. You become body conscious repeatedly. So, the first lesson is, “I soul have to become soul conscious.” I a soul am a form of peace .” Our very self religion is peace. This peace cannot be obtained in any jungle. You may have to consider yourself to be a soul. The self religion of a soul is peace You have come here in this world to play your part. You have not at allcome to go and sit in the abode of peace. This world is a place to play a part. Here you you will not at all be able to live in peace. This is certainly the place to play our parts. And as for the rest this is the kingdom of Ravan; therefore, there is sorrow here. Had it been the kingdom of Ram, there would have been happiness here too.
There is happiness as well as peace there because it is a kingdom of Ram. Here there is sorrow and restlessness in this world. So, do you seek peace for this birth? Or do you seek peace for many births? If you want peace for many births, then you can attain that peace in the abode of peace. Do you require only peace or happiness as well? Actually it is an unlawful issue to seek only peace. In the Golden Age you attain both happiness as well as peace. So, the Father has explained, “the Sanyasis, who follow the path of renunciation, cannot give both happiness and peace because they consider the happiness of heaven to be like the excreta of crow (kaagvishtha). They say, “we do not want the happiness of heaven.” So, you cannot achieve peace as well as happiness from them. This inheritance is received only from the unlimited Father. But you certainly require purity for this. Even that inheritance of purity cannot be given by one human being to another human being, except the Father.
Purity alone is called true salvation (sadgati). Impurity is called degradation (durgati). Where does the mind wander? It wanders in impurity. Where does the body wander? The body too wanders in impurity; that is why it has been said, “purity is called true salvation.” You will achieve true salvation only when you become pure. Here it is the Iron-Age sinful world. You keep degrading. It is only the sinful human beings who live in the sinful world. There cannot be a single pure person in the sinful world. The pure world is entirely different and the sinful world is entirely different. Heaven is a pure world and the hell is a sinful world.
There cannot be even a single pure person in the sinful world and there cannot be a single impure person in the pure world. What was said? Then how will the pure world arrive? If you die in the sinful world, then you will take birth in the sinful world; if you die in the pure world, then you will take birth in the pure world. Now, there is no pure world at all. Arey, how will the pure world arrive so that we could take birth in the pure world? Here it is a sinful world and nothing else. (Someone said – the Father has come to make us pure ) How will we become pure when the world is indeed sinful. Npt even a sigle person is pure in the sinful world. Although not even a single person is pure in the sinful world, but while living in the sinful world, the thoughts of the mind can be made pure; (at least) our atmosphere can become pure. The gathering of the ones whose atmosphere becomes such pure will become different; their very world will become different. OK, Om Shanti. .................. (concluded)
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Note: The words in italics are Hindi words. Some words have been added in the brackets by the translator for better understanding of the translation.
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Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs
VCD No.968, Cassette No.1454, dated 30.07.08 at Mangaldei
Clarification of Murli dated 01.06.68
Part-I
It is the morning class dated 1st June, 1968. Children know that we are obtaining Shrimat. What do they know? Are they obtaining human directions or Shrimat (Godly directions)? What is Shrimat? Shrimat is the righteous direction of the Shri-Shri (the highest on high). Shri-Shri is ShivBaba. When we are obtaining Shrimat, then we should also remember the Shrimat that, what Shrimat has Baba given in which cases? Baba is giving opinion or advice, i.e. he is teaching us. First of all He says, “Remember the Father and the home.” Should we remember one or two? Is it better to remember one or to remember two? (Student – It is better to remember one). Why does He ask to remember two? Remember the Father and remember the home. Is we should remember the home; then which is the home? (Student: Incorporeal within the corporeal…..) Does it mean that the Supreme Abode is not the home? The incorporeal has come here. When He has come here; so, certainly He must have some abode, some place. If He Himself does not have any place, then where will we concentrate our intellect? If Shiv has come on this Earth, then He must be having some place, some appointed Chariot, through whom He is performing His task. So, He is giving Shrimat; so we will have to remember that home as well as the Father.
Who is the Father? The very name of My soul is ‘Shiv’. While moving around, while sitting and standing, why don’t you remember your home? What? While performing actions, while moving around, while sitting and standing, it is difficult to remember the point, but you can remember the home. There is no difficulty in it. You cannot remember a subtle thing. OK, remember the gross form. Whom do you remember in the path of worship? In the path of worship, you remember the ling. Such a big ling. Now, it is not so big. He is a subtle small point. Then it has been made so large in the path of worship. Why has it been made big?
In the path of worship nobody knows at all that the Supreme Soul is a point of light. Yes, they remembered this much that when God must have come on this Earth; He must have come in some form. When the saints and sages and writers of scriptures were in a satopradhan (dominated by the quality of goodness and purity) stage, this issue came to their intellect that the Supreme Soul must have certainly come in some Chariot-like body and he must have attained such a stage where organs like nose, eyes, ears, etc. do not exist in spite of being existent. As if He doesn’t listen in spite of hearing through the ears. Although the entire world may keep defaming (Him), but He listens through one ear and leaves it through the other. It is as if the ears don’t exist inspite of being present physically. Similarly also the other organs do not exist despite being existent. So, if the (external) organs are cut off from the human body, if the arms are cut, if the limbs are cut, if the nose, eyes, ears, mouth are removed, then what would remain? Only a ling (-shaped torso) would remain. So, a ling has been shown as a memorial of that incorporeal stage.
Now you children know that there is no such human being who may forget his home. Is there anyone? Everyone remembers his home. Even if he is in a foreign country, he would remember his home, would he not? Even the Father gives Shrimat to the children, “Remember the Father and remember your home.” It means that remember the incorporeal within the corporeal. So, you have to remember him. Only then will you become pure. Why did He make him distant by using the word ‘(remember) him’? When the Vani was being narrated, it was being narrated through the body of Brahma and Brahma’s body was going to perish. Was it perishable or imperishable? That was going to perish. If we remember the perishable (thing) then we will not achieve anything. That is why a hint was given, “so, you have to remember him.” ‘Him’ means that you have to remember the future appointed Chariot, which is going to be revealed. Only then will you become pure. It means that you will not become pure by remembering this form, this body of Brahma.
Now you are dirty. Maya has made you dirty for 63 births. What? Maya-Ravan has made you dirty for 63 births. So, remember the Father who gives you Shrimat now. Whom should you remember? Should you remember the Shrimat or the one who gives the Shrimat? What does ‘him’ mean? ‘Him’ means the indication is towards some person, isn’t it? Remember the one who is giving Shrimat. The Father says, “Remember your home.” Then He also reminds us of our abode of happiness (sukhdhaam). What will we achieve from the Father? We achieve something from the Father. We have been receiving (something) even from the limited Father or many births and this one is an unlimited Father. So, we will receive something from the unlimited Father, won’t we? Will we receive something or will we receive everything? We will not receive everything; we will receive a lot. So, remember the abode of happiness as well because the Father’s inheritance is the abode of peace and the abode of happiness. The abode of peace means mukti (liberation). The Abode of happiness means liberation from sorrows and pains while being alive. So, we should not forget these issues.
There are different kinds of human opinions in the world. “Tunde-tunde matirbhinna.” (Every head has a different opinoin). There are as many opinions as there are intellects, as there are human beings. In the world, all follow only each other’s opinion. But for you it is one Father and none else. You have to follow the opinion of only one Father. You children now receive Godly opinion, don’t you? What? Whose opinion do you receive? All those who exist in this world, they are the ones who rule in a wicked manner . In the Golden-Age world, there was the kingdom of Lakshmi-Narayan; that does not exist now. So, the (method of) controlling of all those who exist is not good. As the king so do the subjects become. It is only one ShivBaba who teaches the best way of controlling the world. That is why He receives the name ‘Eeshwar’.
‘Eesh’ means ‘ruler’ and ‘var’ means righteous. He rules in the most righteous way. He does not beat. He does not give any punishment. What? (It is said for Him that) You are an ocean of love, are you not? It is Dharmaraj who is the ocean of punishment. ShivBaba is an ocean of love. That ocean of love rules in such a righteous manner that he controls the entire world only through love, i.e. wins everybody’s heart. Is it better to win hearts or is it better to get a work done by beating someone? It is better to win the heart. So, ShivBaba received the very name as ‘Eeshwar’. That is why we have to follow the opinion of the one who rules the world in such a righteous manner.........(continued)
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Note: The words in italics are Hindi words. Some words have been added in the brackets by the translator for better understanding of the translation.
VCD No.968, Cassette No.1454, dated 30.07.08 at Mangaldei
Clarification of Murli dated 01.06.68
Part-I
It is the morning class dated 1st June, 1968. Children know that we are obtaining Shrimat. What do they know? Are they obtaining human directions or Shrimat (Godly directions)? What is Shrimat? Shrimat is the righteous direction of the Shri-Shri (the highest on high). Shri-Shri is ShivBaba. When we are obtaining Shrimat, then we should also remember the Shrimat that, what Shrimat has Baba given in which cases? Baba is giving opinion or advice, i.e. he is teaching us. First of all He says, “Remember the Father and the home.” Should we remember one or two? Is it better to remember one or to remember two? (Student – It is better to remember one). Why does He ask to remember two? Remember the Father and remember the home. Is we should remember the home; then which is the home? (Student: Incorporeal within the corporeal…..) Does it mean that the Supreme Abode is not the home? The incorporeal has come here. When He has come here; so, certainly He must have some abode, some place. If He Himself does not have any place, then where will we concentrate our intellect? If Shiv has come on this Earth, then He must be having some place, some appointed Chariot, through whom He is performing His task. So, He is giving Shrimat; so we will have to remember that home as well as the Father.
Who is the Father? The very name of My soul is ‘Shiv’. While moving around, while sitting and standing, why don’t you remember your home? What? While performing actions, while moving around, while sitting and standing, it is difficult to remember the point, but you can remember the home. There is no difficulty in it. You cannot remember a subtle thing. OK, remember the gross form. Whom do you remember in the path of worship? In the path of worship, you remember the ling. Such a big ling. Now, it is not so big. He is a subtle small point. Then it has been made so large in the path of worship. Why has it been made big?
In the path of worship nobody knows at all that the Supreme Soul is a point of light. Yes, they remembered this much that when God must have come on this Earth; He must have come in some form. When the saints and sages and writers of scriptures were in a satopradhan (dominated by the quality of goodness and purity) stage, this issue came to their intellect that the Supreme Soul must have certainly come in some Chariot-like body and he must have attained such a stage where organs like nose, eyes, ears, etc. do not exist in spite of being existent. As if He doesn’t listen in spite of hearing through the ears. Although the entire world may keep defaming (Him), but He listens through one ear and leaves it through the other. It is as if the ears don’t exist inspite of being present physically. Similarly also the other organs do not exist despite being existent. So, if the (external) organs are cut off from the human body, if the arms are cut, if the limbs are cut, if the nose, eyes, ears, mouth are removed, then what would remain? Only a ling (-shaped torso) would remain. So, a ling has been shown as a memorial of that incorporeal stage.
Now you children know that there is no such human being who may forget his home. Is there anyone? Everyone remembers his home. Even if he is in a foreign country, he would remember his home, would he not? Even the Father gives Shrimat to the children, “Remember the Father and remember your home.” It means that remember the incorporeal within the corporeal. So, you have to remember him. Only then will you become pure. Why did He make him distant by using the word ‘(remember) him’? When the Vani was being narrated, it was being narrated through the body of Brahma and Brahma’s body was going to perish. Was it perishable or imperishable? That was going to perish. If we remember the perishable (thing) then we will not achieve anything. That is why a hint was given, “so, you have to remember him.” ‘Him’ means that you have to remember the future appointed Chariot, which is going to be revealed. Only then will you become pure. It means that you will not become pure by remembering this form, this body of Brahma.
Now you are dirty. Maya has made you dirty for 63 births. What? Maya-Ravan has made you dirty for 63 births. So, remember the Father who gives you Shrimat now. Whom should you remember? Should you remember the Shrimat or the one who gives the Shrimat? What does ‘him’ mean? ‘Him’ means the indication is towards some person, isn’t it? Remember the one who is giving Shrimat. The Father says, “Remember your home.” Then He also reminds us of our abode of happiness (sukhdhaam). What will we achieve from the Father? We achieve something from the Father. We have been receiving (something) even from the limited Father or many births and this one is an unlimited Father. So, we will receive something from the unlimited Father, won’t we? Will we receive something or will we receive everything? We will not receive everything; we will receive a lot. So, remember the abode of happiness as well because the Father’s inheritance is the abode of peace and the abode of happiness. The abode of peace means mukti (liberation). The Abode of happiness means liberation from sorrows and pains while being alive. So, we should not forget these issues.
There are different kinds of human opinions in the world. “Tunde-tunde matirbhinna.” (Every head has a different opinoin). There are as many opinions as there are intellects, as there are human beings. In the world, all follow only each other’s opinion. But for you it is one Father and none else. You have to follow the opinion of only one Father. You children now receive Godly opinion, don’t you? What? Whose opinion do you receive? All those who exist in this world, they are the ones who rule in a wicked manner . In the Golden-Age world, there was the kingdom of Lakshmi-Narayan; that does not exist now. So, the (method of) controlling of all those who exist is not good. As the king so do the subjects become. It is only one ShivBaba who teaches the best way of controlling the world. That is why He receives the name ‘Eeshwar’.
‘Eesh’ means ‘ruler’ and ‘var’ means righteous. He rules in the most righteous way. He does not beat. He does not give any punishment. What? (It is said for Him that) You are an ocean of love, are you not? It is Dharmaraj who is the ocean of punishment. ShivBaba is an ocean of love. That ocean of love rules in such a righteous manner that he controls the entire world only through love, i.e. wins everybody’s heart. Is it better to win hearts or is it better to get a work done by beating someone? It is better to win the heart. So, ShivBaba received the very name as ‘Eeshwar’. That is why we have to follow the opinion of the one who rules the world in such a righteous manner.........(continued)
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Note: The words in italics are Hindi words. Some words have been added in the brackets by the translator for better understanding of the translation.
Re: Extracts of PBK Murlis - as narrated to the PBKs
arjun wrote:Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs
VCD* No.968, Cassette No.1454, dated 30.07.08 at Mangaldei
Who is the Father? The very name of My soul is ‘Shiv’. While moving around, while sitting and standing, why don’t you remember your home? What? While performing actions, while moving around, while sitting and standing, it is difficult to remember the point, but you can remember the home. There is no difficulty in it. You cannot remember a subtle thing. OK, remember the gross form. Whom do you remember in the path of worship? In the path of worship, you remember the ling. Such a big ling. Now, it is not so big. He is a subtle small point. Then it has been made so large in the path of worship. Why has it been made big?
Here it is explaining remember the gross form because the subtle form is to hard to remember whilst moving around. In this instance it does not say incorporeal within the corporeal, it is just referring to 'the home' which Virendra Dev Dixit has interpreted as the corporeal body.
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Re: Extracts of PBK Murlis - as narrated to the PBKs
It is true, but it is only for those who cannot make efforts to remember the incorporeal within/through the corporeal.john wrote:Here it is explaining remember the gross form because the subtle form is to hard to remember whilst moving around. In this instance it does not say incorporeal within the corporeal, it is just referring to 'the home' which Veerendra Dev Dixit has interpreted as the corporeal body.
By the way, it is requested that this thread not be used for discussions. The extracts of this thread can definitely be used for discussions in other threads. Since I cannot find any moderator tool for shifting your post and this post to the relevant thread on method of remembrance, I request other moderators to kindly shift or copy an image of these posts to the relevant thread for further discussion.
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Re: Extracts of PBK Murlis - as narrated to the PBKs
OK, thanks for the clarification.arjun wrote: It is true, but it is only for those who cannot make efforts to remember the incorporeal within/through the corporeal.
Arjun
Yes, you are right , it did occur to me after I had posted.By the way, it is requested that this thread not be used for discussions. The extracts of this thread can definitely be used for discussions in other threads.
It will be better in a seperate thread.
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Re: Extracts of PBK Murlis - as narrated to the PBKs
Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs
VCD* No.968, Cassette No.1454, dated 30.07.08 at Mangaldei
Clarification of Murli dated 01.06.68
Part-II
.........…You receive Shrimat. You should not forget that opinion. Neither should you forget the one who gives the opinion. Here children forget the very Father . Then, will they remember the versions (spoken by Him)? When they forget the very Father , then will they remember the versions spoken by Him? When they forget the very Father , then they will forget the versions of the Father as well. So, they forget their home as well. They forget the soul, the highest among all the souls that gives the opinion. And they also forget the home in which that soul comes and gives the opinion and then they completely forget the Shrimat. Then what do they do? The one who will forget the Shrimat, the one who will forget the giver of opinion, the one in whom He comes and gives the opinion, the one through whom He gives His opinion, then whom will he remember? Either he will follow his mind’s opinion or the opinions of the bodily gurus. What happens next? Then they will also forget the abode of happiness. That is why children remain withered. What? When they do not remember the Father, when the Father’s children do not remember their home either, when they do not remember the Father’s home, and when they do not remember the abode of happiness, i.e. the new world either, which is the Father’s inheritance; when they do not remember anything, they wither.
The Father says, “Don’t you feel ashamed?” Ashamed of what? (That) You forget everything. Don’t you feel ashamed? You forget the Father as well as the home? It is an easy thing. What did you keep doing for 63 births? Did anyone forget his Father and his home? No. You have developed this practice . Here you forget your Father as well as your home. What is the reason for this? You have developed this practice firmly for 63 births. You had been remembering the Father, the lokik Father as well as your home. Even if you went to a foreign country, you continued to remember the home. And why do you forget here? There must be some reason. (Student: the kingdom of Ravan has commenced) Kingdom of Ravan? Let Ravan come. We forget because we did not have the correct introduction of that unlimited Father at all for 63 births. We have forgotten for 63 births. How can the remembrance become firm in one birth? Now we have received the firm recogmition, but Maya of 63 births; somewhere we have established relationship with someone and somewhere else we have established relationship with someone else, then that Maya keeps coming to catch us in the form of a woman or a man with whom we had established a relationship. So, what does it do to the connection (Yoga) of our intellect? It misleads us. She cuts the connection of our intellect with the Father and joins it with herself.
Now the Father says, “Don’t you feel ashamed?” Now say, what should we do in this? After all the children are children. They have a child-like intellect. You cannot even go to your home. You have been given the identification of your home as ‘this is your home’. Can’t you even go to your home by remembering it? When you have come to know that this is our home, then you should remember it, shouldn’t you? That is the reason why you can’t go (home). Why doesn’t your intellect go towards your home? OK, if your intellect can’t remember the Father. The Father is a point. It is a bit difficult to remember a subtle thing (but) your home is not a small point, it is not subtle. So, why don’t you remember your home? You do not remember because you are impure. Is the home pure or impure? Now the Father has entered (this body-like home), so should it be considered to be pure or impure? When the Father has chosen that body, it would certainly be righteous. So, if you remember me you will now become pure and reach the pure abode.
He sits and explains in such an easy way, “Sweet children, now you don’t forget (the Father).” Maya will definitely try to make you forget. In which form does Maya come to make you forget? Arey, it comes in the form of a woman or in the form of a man or in the form of a thing. It comes in the form of some relative. Maya certainly comes. It comes and makes you forget the Father. But you don’t forget. Although that Maya comes and makes you forget. It is in your intellect, “Arey, yes it is making us forget.” OK, leave it. ‘Sab taj hari bhaj (leave everything and remember God)’. The Father sits and explains these topics directly. What? It is not as if He sits and explains through Brahma or through any other Brahma kumar-kumari. No, the Father sits and explains directly.
What is direct and indirect? What is direct? Direct means the own form of the Father, through which He is revealed in the world, He explains through that form, the form of God. And just as there are forms of Brahma: there are four Brahmas, 5 Brahmas. ShivBaba makes His work done through them as well, but they are not my direct forms. I explain to you through the direct form. Did He narrate through the body of Brahma or did He explain? He narrated. Is there any difference between understanding and narrating, between listening and narrating, between understanding and explaining or not? What is the difference? The task of just listening and narrating is performed through the ears. Understanding and explaining is done through the intellect. This is a task of the intellect. It is as if the intellect is attached to the soul. What? Whether one can hear through his ears or not, but it is as if everyone receives the mind and intellect ever since they take birth as the inheritance. Everyone receives the gift of God, the intellect ever since they take birth. Some have received good intellect as per the past births and some receive numberwise intellect, but everyone definitely receives an intellect.
So, children now you have to go to your home. What? Where do you have to fix your intellect diverting the connection of the intellect from all other directions ? You have to go to your home. Now you cannot go completely. You are small children. You have to be enabled to walk by holding your fingers. Now you cannot go completely because you have become dirty. When you become pure flowers then (the Father) will take you (to the home). You should remember this, shouldn’t you? It is good to remember the Father, home, and kingship , isn’t it? What? Three things. You should remember the Father, you should remember the home; how is the corporeal body the home? The place of residence of the souls is the Supreme Abode. Baba was in the Supreme Abode. Now He has come down; so the body in which He has come in an appointed form, how is it our home? You feel more comfort at home. Wherever you may travel in the world, but you don’t receive as much comfort as you receive it at home. (Student: ‘sukoon’ means comfort) Comfort. It is only the home which gives comfort to the heart. So, Father, home, kingship – it is good to remember these three, isn’t it? ...... (Continued)
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Note: The words in italics are Hindi words. Some words have been added in the brackets by the translator for better understanding of the translation.
VCD* No.968, Cassette No.1454, dated 30.07.08 at Mangaldei
Clarification of Murli dated 01.06.68
Part-II
.........…You receive Shrimat. You should not forget that opinion. Neither should you forget the one who gives the opinion. Here children forget the very Father . Then, will they remember the versions (spoken by Him)? When they forget the very Father , then will they remember the versions spoken by Him? When they forget the very Father , then they will forget the versions of the Father as well. So, they forget their home as well. They forget the soul, the highest among all the souls that gives the opinion. And they also forget the home in which that soul comes and gives the opinion and then they completely forget the Shrimat. Then what do they do? The one who will forget the Shrimat, the one who will forget the giver of opinion, the one in whom He comes and gives the opinion, the one through whom He gives His opinion, then whom will he remember? Either he will follow his mind’s opinion or the opinions of the bodily gurus. What happens next? Then they will also forget the abode of happiness. That is why children remain withered. What? When they do not remember the Father, when the Father’s children do not remember their home either, when they do not remember the Father’s home, and when they do not remember the abode of happiness, i.e. the new world either, which is the Father’s inheritance; when they do not remember anything, they wither.
The Father says, “Don’t you feel ashamed?” Ashamed of what? (That) You forget everything. Don’t you feel ashamed? You forget the Father as well as the home? It is an easy thing. What did you keep doing for 63 births? Did anyone forget his Father and his home? No. You have developed this practice . Here you forget your Father as well as your home. What is the reason for this? You have developed this practice firmly for 63 births. You had been remembering the Father, the lokik Father as well as your home. Even if you went to a foreign country, you continued to remember the home. And why do you forget here? There must be some reason. (Student: the kingdom of Ravan has commenced) Kingdom of Ravan? Let Ravan come. We forget because we did not have the correct introduction of that unlimited Father at all for 63 births. We have forgotten for 63 births. How can the remembrance become firm in one birth? Now we have received the firm recogmition, but Maya of 63 births; somewhere we have established relationship with someone and somewhere else we have established relationship with someone else, then that Maya keeps coming to catch us in the form of a woman or a man with whom we had established a relationship. So, what does it do to the connection (Yoga) of our intellect? It misleads us. She cuts the connection of our intellect with the Father and joins it with herself.
Now the Father says, “Don’t you feel ashamed?” Now say, what should we do in this? After all the children are children. They have a child-like intellect. You cannot even go to your home. You have been given the identification of your home as ‘this is your home’. Can’t you even go to your home by remembering it? When you have come to know that this is our home, then you should remember it, shouldn’t you? That is the reason why you can’t go (home). Why doesn’t your intellect go towards your home? OK, if your intellect can’t remember the Father. The Father is a point. It is a bit difficult to remember a subtle thing (but) your home is not a small point, it is not subtle. So, why don’t you remember your home? You do not remember because you are impure. Is the home pure or impure? Now the Father has entered (this body-like home), so should it be considered to be pure or impure? When the Father has chosen that body, it would certainly be righteous. So, if you remember me you will now become pure and reach the pure abode.
He sits and explains in such an easy way, “Sweet children, now you don’t forget (the Father).” Maya will definitely try to make you forget. In which form does Maya come to make you forget? Arey, it comes in the form of a woman or in the form of a man or in the form of a thing. It comes in the form of some relative. Maya certainly comes. It comes and makes you forget the Father. But you don’t forget. Although that Maya comes and makes you forget. It is in your intellect, “Arey, yes it is making us forget.” OK, leave it. ‘Sab taj hari bhaj (leave everything and remember God)’. The Father sits and explains these topics directly. What? It is not as if He sits and explains through Brahma or through any other Brahma kumar-kumari. No, the Father sits and explains directly.
What is direct and indirect? What is direct? Direct means the own form of the Father, through which He is revealed in the world, He explains through that form, the form of God. And just as there are forms of Brahma: there are four Brahmas, 5 Brahmas. ShivBaba makes His work done through them as well, but they are not my direct forms. I explain to you through the direct form. Did He narrate through the body of Brahma or did He explain? He narrated. Is there any difference between understanding and narrating, between listening and narrating, between understanding and explaining or not? What is the difference? The task of just listening and narrating is performed through the ears. Understanding and explaining is done through the intellect. This is a task of the intellect. It is as if the intellect is attached to the soul. What? Whether one can hear through his ears or not, but it is as if everyone receives the mind and intellect ever since they take birth as the inheritance. Everyone receives the gift of God, the intellect ever since they take birth. Some have received good intellect as per the past births and some receive numberwise intellect, but everyone definitely receives an intellect.
So, children now you have to go to your home. What? Where do you have to fix your intellect diverting the connection of the intellect from all other directions ? You have to go to your home. Now you cannot go completely. You are small children. You have to be enabled to walk by holding your fingers. Now you cannot go completely because you have become dirty. When you become pure flowers then (the Father) will take you (to the home). You should remember this, shouldn’t you? It is good to remember the Father, home, and kingship , isn’t it? What? Three things. You should remember the Father, you should remember the home; how is the corporeal body the home? The place of residence of the souls is the Supreme Abode. Baba was in the Supreme Abode. Now He has come down; so the body in which He has come in an appointed form, how is it our home? You feel more comfort at home. Wherever you may travel in the world, but you don’t receive as much comfort as you receive it at home. (Student: ‘sukoon’ means comfort) Comfort. It is only the home which gives comfort to the heart. So, Father, home, kingship – it is good to remember these three, isn’t it? ...... (Continued)
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VCD** No.968, Cassette No.1454, dated 30.07.08 at Mangaldei
Clarification of Murli dated 01.06.68
Part-III
....You know that we are now going to enjoy kingship. You children were masters of heaven 5000 years ago as well. Were all the children masters of heaven? Will the master of the entire world, entire heaven be one or everyone? (Student: One) It will be one; why? Isn’t that ‘one’ such who keeps the children in the (way) he lives? Whatever belongs to the Father belongs to the children. Does He not keep them like this? Are the subjects there not like the king? It is the only first birth where the subjects are like the king. In the rest (of births) it goes on becoming numberwise. What? Is today’s government, the kings who sit on chairs (hold big positions), call them ministers are they (with a thinking) ‘as the king so are the subjects’? Will their subjects think that this ministry belongs to us as well? They just say that nowadays the ministry belongs to us, but when they sit (in power) for 5 years, they show the thumb to (i.e. dupe) everyone. Whatever they said (earlier) goes to the winds.
So, look, now you children are once again becoming the masters of heaven. There is no need to be confused in it. What? Do you become confused in this or not that will we become masters of heaven? Don’t you (become confused)? Do you? You do. When Maya shakes you, then your heart feels, “Arey, what will we become master of heaven? What will we become children of the master?” A child sits on the lap. He remains very close. The Father says, “There is no need to be confused. Only you were the masters of world; then you have to become now, but how will you become?” He raised a question, “How will you become?” We will become through the Father’s remembrance. We will become through the journey of remembrance. OK, will all of us become (master of heaven) there? Will everyone become master of the world, master of heaven there? We will become numberwise. There is no need to be confused at all as to what will happen?
The same home will become your’s which was your home. You do not worry about this as to how will the house be built there? Where? Will you build houses in heaven? Are houses built in the new world heaven? Will factories work over there as well? Will the brick-kilns work there? No. So, what will you do? How will the houses be built? There Maya is the female servant (daasi). Maya as well as nature are female servants. Now nature as well as Maya-Ravan are controlling us, but what will happen there? There both these biggest powers of the world will become our female servants. When they become female servants, then they will make such wonderful caves naturally over big mountains (like), what do you call them – the caves like Ajanta, Ellora (the ancient caves found in India), which were formed 2500 years ago and are being found now. There will be such caves which will be embedded with diamonds and jewels. There will be automatic lighting. There will not be any fear of rains etc.
Now you have to certainly take birth in heaven. Make it firm that the more you will make special efforts for the soul, the more you will achieve attainments. This study is indeed for taking you from hell (narak) to heaven (swarg). What? From where does it take you to which place? ‘Nara’ (man), ‘ka’ (the one who does). What has the world built by the human beings become today? It has become a hell (narak). From that hell, where does He takes us to? ‘Swa’; ‘swa’, ‘Golden Age’. ‘Swa’ means soul and even among the souls, who remains constant in the self stage to the maximum extent? Arey, have you forgotten? Among all the souls that exist in the world, among all the souls that are in the Soul World, who remains constant in the self stage more than anyone else? ShivBaba. Why Shankar? Say it for one. Shankar becomes constant sometimes and does not become constant sometimes, but when he becomes constant in remembrance, then Shankar’s name is added to that of Shiv. The names of other deities are not added. Although it is correct that he is at the number two position, but the one who becomes constant in the self-stage most is Shiv, whose name of the soul alone is Shiv. So, it is He who makes heaven. He is the most righteous soul. All the souls are number wise as compared to Him .
So, this study is for taking you from hell to heaven. Who alone makes heaven? The one who always remains in the self-stage (swasthiti or soul conscious stage), only He is the one to make heaven. He takes you to heaven. This is not called any Bhakti (devotion). What? (That someone may say) This is an issue of your spirit for Bhakti. What? That you will go in heaven, if you make special effort for the soul, if you remember Baba you will go to heaven. It is not a subject of spirit for Bhakti. This is a practical truth. This is knowledge. There is no question of blindfaith (andhashraddha) in it. In the path of worship nobody knows anybody’s occupation, biography. And here in knowledge? In the path of knowledge, we know the biography of the deities as well as the biography of God. And we come to know our biography as well as the biography of our friends and companions.
What does biography mean? Life story, history. Occupation means business. What is the business? For example there are monkeys. Do the monkeys understand anything? Wherever they see anything, they will try to catch is and gobble it. Everyone in this world is like a monkey. They will even jump to go the temple. The monkeys of the outside world will jump and go into temple as well. And what about the monkeys in an unlimited sense? The monkeys in an unlimited sense are also like this. Even in this world, they remain ahead of everyone in enjoying Bhog (pleasures) and even in the new world, when the new world, temple will be made, they go ahead of everyone there as well. They will jump and go. What does it mean by ‘they will jump and go’? Jumping and going means to take a high jump. For example, it is said for Shankar, “Does Shiv ride on a bull or on Shankar? Shiv rides on a human being. He will come only in a human being and the human being has been shown on what? Shankar’s ride is shown on a bull. So, does he ride on the bull always or does he ride on him when he takes a high jump? He rides (on the bull) when he takes a high jump.
So, look, monkeys will even jump and go into the temple. They will bring something or the other from there too. From where? They will jump and into heaven as well. They will certainly bring something from there and come. You too intrude anywhere. You eat whatever you receive. If you don’t receive good food, OK, whatever kind of food you receive, you eat it. So, you are monkeys, aren’t you? You don’t know anything. Do the monkeys know anything? They have just heard the name that these are deities; that is all. They don’t know anything else. .... (Continued)
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Note: The words in italics are Hindi words. Some words have been added in the brackets by the translator for better understanding of the translation.
VCD** No.968, Cassette No.1454, dated 30.07.08 at Mangaldei
Clarification of Murli dated 01.06.68
Part-III
....You know that we are now going to enjoy kingship. You children were masters of heaven 5000 years ago as well. Were all the children masters of heaven? Will the master of the entire world, entire heaven be one or everyone? (Student: One) It will be one; why? Isn’t that ‘one’ such who keeps the children in the (way) he lives? Whatever belongs to the Father belongs to the children. Does He not keep them like this? Are the subjects there not like the king? It is the only first birth where the subjects are like the king. In the rest (of births) it goes on becoming numberwise. What? Is today’s government, the kings who sit on chairs (hold big positions), call them ministers are they (with a thinking) ‘as the king so are the subjects’? Will their subjects think that this ministry belongs to us as well? They just say that nowadays the ministry belongs to us, but when they sit (in power) for 5 years, they show the thumb to (i.e. dupe) everyone. Whatever they said (earlier) goes to the winds.
So, look, now you children are once again becoming the masters of heaven. There is no need to be confused in it. What? Do you become confused in this or not that will we become masters of heaven? Don’t you (become confused)? Do you? You do. When Maya shakes you, then your heart feels, “Arey, what will we become master of heaven? What will we become children of the master?” A child sits on the lap. He remains very close. The Father says, “There is no need to be confused. Only you were the masters of world; then you have to become now, but how will you become?” He raised a question, “How will you become?” We will become through the Father’s remembrance. We will become through the journey of remembrance. OK, will all of us become (master of heaven) there? Will everyone become master of the world, master of heaven there? We will become numberwise. There is no need to be confused at all as to what will happen?
The same home will become your’s which was your home. You do not worry about this as to how will the house be built there? Where? Will you build houses in heaven? Are houses built in the new world heaven? Will factories work over there as well? Will the brick-kilns work there? No. So, what will you do? How will the houses be built? There Maya is the female servant (daasi). Maya as well as nature are female servants. Now nature as well as Maya-Ravan are controlling us, but what will happen there? There both these biggest powers of the world will become our female servants. When they become female servants, then they will make such wonderful caves naturally over big mountains (like), what do you call them – the caves like Ajanta, Ellora (the ancient caves found in India), which were formed 2500 years ago and are being found now. There will be such caves which will be embedded with diamonds and jewels. There will be automatic lighting. There will not be any fear of rains etc.
Now you have to certainly take birth in heaven. Make it firm that the more you will make special efforts for the soul, the more you will achieve attainments. This study is indeed for taking you from hell (narak) to heaven (swarg). What? From where does it take you to which place? ‘Nara’ (man), ‘ka’ (the one who does). What has the world built by the human beings become today? It has become a hell (narak). From that hell, where does He takes us to? ‘Swa’; ‘swa’, ‘Golden Age’. ‘Swa’ means soul and even among the souls, who remains constant in the self stage to the maximum extent? Arey, have you forgotten? Among all the souls that exist in the world, among all the souls that are in the Soul World, who remains constant in the self stage more than anyone else? ShivBaba. Why Shankar? Say it for one. Shankar becomes constant sometimes and does not become constant sometimes, but when he becomes constant in remembrance, then Shankar’s name is added to that of Shiv. The names of other deities are not added. Although it is correct that he is at the number two position, but the one who becomes constant in the self-stage most is Shiv, whose name of the soul alone is Shiv. So, it is He who makes heaven. He is the most righteous soul. All the souls are number wise as compared to Him .
So, this study is for taking you from hell to heaven. Who alone makes heaven? The one who always remains in the self-stage (swasthiti or soul conscious stage), only He is the one to make heaven. He takes you to heaven. This is not called any Bhakti (devotion). What? (That someone may say) This is an issue of your spirit for Bhakti. What? That you will go in heaven, if you make special effort for the soul, if you remember Baba you will go to heaven. It is not a subject of spirit for Bhakti. This is a practical truth. This is knowledge. There is no question of blindfaith (andhashraddha) in it. In the path of worship nobody knows anybody’s occupation, biography. And here in knowledge? In the path of knowledge, we know the biography of the deities as well as the biography of God. And we come to know our biography as well as the biography of our friends and companions.
What does biography mean? Life story, history. Occupation means business. What is the business? For example there are monkeys. Do the monkeys understand anything? Wherever they see anything, they will try to catch is and gobble it. Everyone in this world is like a monkey. They will even jump to go the temple. The monkeys of the outside world will jump and go into temple as well. And what about the monkeys in an unlimited sense? The monkeys in an unlimited sense are also like this. Even in this world, they remain ahead of everyone in enjoying Bhog (pleasures) and even in the new world, when the new world, temple will be made, they go ahead of everyone there as well. They will jump and go. What does it mean by ‘they will jump and go’? Jumping and going means to take a high jump. For example, it is said for Shankar, “Does Shiv ride on a bull or on Shankar? Shiv rides on a human being. He will come only in a human being and the human being has been shown on what? Shankar’s ride is shown on a bull. So, does he ride on the bull always or does he ride on him when he takes a high jump? He rides (on the bull) when he takes a high jump.
So, look, monkeys will even jump and go into the temple. They will bring something or the other from there too. From where? They will jump and into heaven as well. They will certainly bring something from there and come. You too intrude anywhere. You eat whatever you receive. If you don’t receive good food, OK, whatever kind of food you receive, you eat it. So, you are monkeys, aren’t you? You don’t know anything. Do the monkeys know anything? They have just heard the name that these are deities; that is all. They don’t know anything else. .... (Continued)
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VCD*** No.968, Cassette No.1454, dated 30.07.08 at Mangaldei
Clarification of Murli dated 01.06.68
Part-IV
.........…Devotees will take you to Hanuman. Who is he as well? Arey, he has been shown to have a face of which animal? Hanuman has been shown to be like a monkey. The devotees will take you to Hanuman and say, “This is Hanuman.” OK, what should we do? That is all, Hanuman is God. Fold your hands before him; touch his feet. That is all, some devotees give this opinion. This is monkey is Hanuman, fold your hands before him, and touch his feet because he is God. Well, is this blindfaith or faith? It was blindfaith that was taught (by the devotee). You receive this opinion. Now, the Father does not give such opinion based on blindfaith. He explains everything in depth; analyses every cause and action and then explains every subject. The Father does not give such opinion which is based on blindfaith.
The Father says, “First of all know the occupation.” Whose? Know the occupation of the Father as well as of the deities. If they say, “This monkey is Hanuman and he is God”, then (you can ask as to) what tasks must this God have performed? Why has his character (seerat), his face (soorat) been made like a monkey? What is recognized through the face? The character is recognized. The occupation is realized. So, know the occupation, otherwise it becomes a blindfaith.
Now you children have understood that the duration of a Kalpa is this many years. Have you understood it or have you simply accepted that the duration of a Kalpa is this many years. The world says, “Its duration is lakhs (hundred thousands) of years. You have understood that the duration of this Kalpa is 5000 years. How did you understand? You accepted on the basis of blindfaith. How? Otherwise say! Give the proofs for the fact that a Kalpa’s duration is 5000 years. How should we accept, without proofs? The children of the intelligent Father should be intelligent. You should not accept anything without proofs.
If someone asks us, “How did you say that the Kalpa is of 5000 years? It has been written in the scriptures that the duration of a Kalpa is lakhs of years.” Then what will you say? (Someone said – the history of 2500 years is available) Yes, 2500 years. So, say that the duration is 2500 years. Why do you mention it to be of 5000 years? (Student: There is no record of the Golden Age and the Silver Age) Yes. (Student said something). No. They say, “the Golden Age , the Silver Age, the Copper Age and the Iron Age are included in the 2500 years history that is available since the Copper Age.” We narrate the same history to you in the scriptures that there was a kingdom of Ram in the Silver Age. They tell the history that there was kingdom of Ram in the Silver Age, don’t they ? Don’t they say? They do. What will you say then? (Student: There are four stages in every Age) 1250 years. Where did they pick up even that from? Who said that? It has also been said in the scriptures that the duration of every Age is 1250 years, but what did the human gurus do? They multiplied it with the year of deities, with 360. So, the Kalpa became so long. The made the duration of every day long.
So, the Father says, “The scriptures have taught all this blindfaith.” Actually, history is written about that period when human being is sorrowful. Then he counts every day. Then history is made. History was made in the world of sorrows. Nobody used to make history of the Golden Age and the Silver Age. There was no era there. Now the era 1.1.1 that Baba says, will it be in the Confluence Age or in the Golden Age? One said, “in the Confluence Age and the other said, “it will be in the Golden Age.”
In the Golden Age everyone will be happy. What? There is no need to count every day at all. The mountains of sorrows have to fall (on us) here in the Confluence Age. So, here the time will become long. And as for the rest it is not as if the history of 2500 years is of the world of happiness. What? The history of 2500 years is only of the world of sorrows . For 2500 years, the happiness that was there, the day that was there….... Is there light in the day or do people stumble (in day time)? There is light during daytime. So, the deities were very happy. There is no question about stumbling there; yes, they did not used to stumble upon sorrows. The deities were so happy that there was no need to at all make the history during those happy times . 2500 years of heaven; 2500 years of hell. In this way the duration of this world is totally 5000 years.
You can tell some more topics. In the excavations of Mohenjodaro and Harappa, any such old things have not been found in it which are more than 5000 years old. What does this prove as well? It proves that the world is 5000 years old. Also in the Bible of Christians, in their scriptures it has been written that, 3000 years before Christ there was Paradise, heaven in India. So, that proves as well that 2000 years after Christ and 3000 years before him. How many years does it make? There was paradise 5000 years ago; now the same 5000 years have completed. Now the heaven is going to come again after 5000 years. So, your intellect has understood that the duration of a Kalpa is for how many years. This is not a subject of blindfaith. What? Can the one who has himself understood explain to others or not? He can explain. If he himself wouldn’t have understood then, he cannot explain to others as well.
So, Bhakti is called kingdom of Ravan. Why? Why is it called kingdom of Ravan? Why it is not called kingdom of Kumbhakarna (brother of Ravan)? (Someone said something) No, Ravan is shown to have ten heads. Kumbhakarna had only one head; He was true, he used to speak only one version. Although he belonged to the Ravan community, he was true. He was not a liar. He did not used to double talk; he did not used to speak ten versions. And what about Ravan? When he has ten heads, he used to speak ten types of versions through ten mouths.
Bhakti is called kingdom of Ravan. It is not called just Bhakti; it is called kingdom of Ravan. Only you children know this. The world does not know. Human beings of the world are worse than monkeys. Human beings follow the intellect of human beings alone. What? Being human beings, whose intellect should they follow? Should they follow the opinion of animals? Human beings follow the opinion of human beings. You do not read newspapers etc.
Now the Governor of Haryana (a state in India) has come. He says, “My guru is Nanda.” What was the full name? (The guru is) Gulzari Lal Nanda. I will do only whatever he says me. He is my guru, my advisor. He gives me advice. They have written this in the newspaper. That is all; they become happy on this issue alone. It is a wonder, isn’t it? That Gulzari Lal Nanda went to Kurukshetra (a place). There is a lake there. The lake has water. When it rains, because of the connection of rains, it gets filled with water. If there is no rainfall, then what would be the condition of the lake? It will become a swamp. There will not be water. Although the water dries off, although the water of the lake evaporates in the path of worship, it is considered to be a pilgrimage place. After all it is not an ocean ..... (To be continued)
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Note: The words in italics are Hindi words. Some words have been added in the brackets by the translator for better understanding of the translation.
VCD*** No.968, Cassette No.1454, dated 30.07.08 at Mangaldei
Clarification of Murli dated 01.06.68
Part-IV
.........…Devotees will take you to Hanuman. Who is he as well? Arey, he has been shown to have a face of which animal? Hanuman has been shown to be like a monkey. The devotees will take you to Hanuman and say, “This is Hanuman.” OK, what should we do? That is all, Hanuman is God. Fold your hands before him; touch his feet. That is all, some devotees give this opinion. This is monkey is Hanuman, fold your hands before him, and touch his feet because he is God. Well, is this blindfaith or faith? It was blindfaith that was taught (by the devotee). You receive this opinion. Now, the Father does not give such opinion based on blindfaith. He explains everything in depth; analyses every cause and action and then explains every subject. The Father does not give such opinion which is based on blindfaith.
The Father says, “First of all know the occupation.” Whose? Know the occupation of the Father as well as of the deities. If they say, “This monkey is Hanuman and he is God”, then (you can ask as to) what tasks must this God have performed? Why has his character (seerat), his face (soorat) been made like a monkey? What is recognized through the face? The character is recognized. The occupation is realized. So, know the occupation, otherwise it becomes a blindfaith.
Now you children have understood that the duration of a Kalpa is this many years. Have you understood it or have you simply accepted that the duration of a Kalpa is this many years. The world says, “Its duration is lakhs (hundred thousands) of years. You have understood that the duration of this Kalpa is 5000 years. How did you understand? You accepted on the basis of blindfaith. How? Otherwise say! Give the proofs for the fact that a Kalpa’s duration is 5000 years. How should we accept, without proofs? The children of the intelligent Father should be intelligent. You should not accept anything without proofs.
If someone asks us, “How did you say that the Kalpa is of 5000 years? It has been written in the scriptures that the duration of a Kalpa is lakhs of years.” Then what will you say? (Someone said – the history of 2500 years is available) Yes, 2500 years. So, say that the duration is 2500 years. Why do you mention it to be of 5000 years? (Student: There is no record of the Golden Age and the Silver Age) Yes. (Student said something). No. They say, “the Golden Age , the Silver Age, the Copper Age and the Iron Age are included in the 2500 years history that is available since the Copper Age.” We narrate the same history to you in the scriptures that there was a kingdom of Ram in the Silver Age. They tell the history that there was kingdom of Ram in the Silver Age, don’t they ? Don’t they say? They do. What will you say then? (Student: There are four stages in every Age) 1250 years. Where did they pick up even that from? Who said that? It has also been said in the scriptures that the duration of every Age is 1250 years, but what did the human gurus do? They multiplied it with the year of deities, with 360. So, the Kalpa became so long. The made the duration of every day long.
So, the Father says, “The scriptures have taught all this blindfaith.” Actually, history is written about that period when human being is sorrowful. Then he counts every day. Then history is made. History was made in the world of sorrows. Nobody used to make history of the Golden Age and the Silver Age. There was no era there. Now the era 1.1.1 that Baba says, will it be in the Confluence Age or in the Golden Age? One said, “in the Confluence Age and the other said, “it will be in the Golden Age.”
In the Golden Age everyone will be happy. What? There is no need to count every day at all. The mountains of sorrows have to fall (on us) here in the Confluence Age. So, here the time will become long. And as for the rest it is not as if the history of 2500 years is of the world of happiness. What? The history of 2500 years is only of the world of sorrows . For 2500 years, the happiness that was there, the day that was there….... Is there light in the day or do people stumble (in day time)? There is light during daytime. So, the deities were very happy. There is no question about stumbling there; yes, they did not used to stumble upon sorrows. The deities were so happy that there was no need to at all make the history during those happy times . 2500 years of heaven; 2500 years of hell. In this way the duration of this world is totally 5000 years.
You can tell some more topics. In the excavations of Mohenjodaro and Harappa, any such old things have not been found in it which are more than 5000 years old. What does this prove as well? It proves that the world is 5000 years old. Also in the Bible of Christians, in their scriptures it has been written that, 3000 years before Christ there was Paradise, heaven in India. So, that proves as well that 2000 years after Christ and 3000 years before him. How many years does it make? There was paradise 5000 years ago; now the same 5000 years have completed. Now the heaven is going to come again after 5000 years. So, your intellect has understood that the duration of a Kalpa is for how many years. This is not a subject of blindfaith. What? Can the one who has himself understood explain to others or not? He can explain. If he himself wouldn’t have understood then, he cannot explain to others as well.
So, Bhakti is called kingdom of Ravan. Why? Why is it called kingdom of Ravan? Why it is not called kingdom of Kumbhakarna (brother of Ravan)? (Someone said something) No, Ravan is shown to have ten heads. Kumbhakarna had only one head; He was true, he used to speak only one version. Although he belonged to the Ravan community, he was true. He was not a liar. He did not used to double talk; he did not used to speak ten versions. And what about Ravan? When he has ten heads, he used to speak ten types of versions through ten mouths.
Bhakti is called kingdom of Ravan. It is not called just Bhakti; it is called kingdom of Ravan. Only you children know this. The world does not know. Human beings of the world are worse than monkeys. Human beings follow the intellect of human beings alone. What? Being human beings, whose intellect should they follow? Should they follow the opinion of animals? Human beings follow the opinion of human beings. You do not read newspapers etc.
Now the Governor of Haryana (a state in India) has come. He says, “My guru is Nanda.” What was the full name? (The guru is) Gulzari Lal Nanda. I will do only whatever he says me. He is my guru, my advisor. He gives me advice. They have written this in the newspaper. That is all; they become happy on this issue alone. It is a wonder, isn’t it? That Gulzari Lal Nanda went to Kurukshetra (a place). There is a lake there. The lake has water. When it rains, because of the connection of rains, it gets filled with water. If there is no rainfall, then what would be the condition of the lake? It will become a swamp. There will not be water. Although the water dries off, although the water of the lake evaporates in the path of worship, it is considered to be a pilgrimage place. After all it is not an ocean ..... (To be continued)
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Note: The words in italics are Hindi words. Some words have been added in the brackets by the translator for better understanding of the translation.
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VCD**** No.968, Cassette No.1454, dated 30.07.08 at Mangaldei
Clarification of Murli dated 01.06.68
Part-V
....Only one ShivBaba is an ocean, an ocean of knowledge. There is no question of its water being exhausted. You may bath any number of times there. And when a lake dries up, they bathe in mud in the path of worship. Here it is a question of which bath? (Someone said – bath of knowledge) Yes, the knowledge becomes dirty. What? It becomes filled with the dirt of adulteration. The intellect becomes unrighteous; in spite of that they continue to bath in it. What? In (knowledge given by) those with a Shudra-like intellect. And here the Father says, “I am an ocean.” The water of this ocean will never be exhausted. It will not turn into mud.
They go to the lake there and rub the mud on their body. Which mud? They rub the mud, i.e. mud of body consciousness. For example , when they go to the Ganges, some sages and saints, mahatmas (noble soul) rub the sand of Ganges on their body, but that is the sand of Ganges. What is the difference between the sand of Ganges and the sand of Yamuna? The sand of Ganges does not stick (to the body) and the mud of Yamuna sticks (to the body). The mud of body consciousness is such that it will attract the person who comes in its company towards itself. It will stick. So, tell whether these lakes, these rivers are purifier of the sinful ones? Even the lake dries up; rivers too dry up, the water turns dirty. The river becomes a drain. On one side they say that Ganges is purifier of the sinful ones. Now they say that they will transform the mud and dirt that has been accumulatred there into heaven. What? They say that they will establish heaven at the site of the lake at Kurukshetra where all the garbage becomes collected. We will make it the capital. Now we will do whatever Nanda (Gulzari lal Nanda) tells us. We will accept whatever guruji tells us. Look, what is the condition of these false devotees.
The devotees would be herons indeed, wouldn’t they Why are they called crane (bagula)? The heron stands in water on one leg. It appears as if he is doing tapasya (ascetic practice). Yes, he appears like a tapasvi (one who practices asceticism). And as soon as a fish aproachs him, he gobbles it immediately; then he stands on one foot once again. So, he is called a heron because he eats meat. He eats even rotten meat. Eating meat means eating poison. They do not eat meat but actually what do they eat? They eat poison. It is a poison of vices, poison of adulteration; that is why the swans and herons cannot live together. What was said? What do the herons eat? They will eat up rotten meat as well as rotten fish. And what about the swan? A swan picks up pearls. He will not even touch rotten meat. So, swans and cranes cannot live together.
Swans will never fight. What? What specialty of swans was said? They will never fight and the herons will babble and keep on fighting. There are many who become fed up of herons. Swans pick up pearls. Those herons eat dirt. Those with firm faith cannot live with the herons. What was said? Who live with herons? What was said? Who will live continuously with the herons who eat dirt? Those who have doubtful intellect live with the herons. Those who have firm faithful intellect cannot live with the herons. They will try how to…...…what to do? We should separate from the colour of company of these herons. They (swans) will say, “why should we waste our time with them (herons)? They are anyways wasting their time. Why should we….......Let them operate their lodging (dharmashala). We make our separate dharmashala. Why should we waste time? Arey, after all it is the task of all the swans to pick up pearls themselves and make others to pick-up pearls as well.
We all Prajapita Brahmakumar-kumaris are Brahmins. All of us are swans (hans). And as for the rest of the others are Shudras and herons. Shudras are (depicted) in the legs, are they not? When the picture of Viraat Purush (the Universal form of Vishnu) is prepared, where are the Shudras shown (in that picture)? In the legs. And where are the Brahmins depicted? They are depicted in the choti ( top-knot ). So, you are Prajapita Brahmakumar-kumaris, Brahmins. Shudras are in the legs. The picture of Viraat form has also been displayed in which deties, Kshatriyas (warriors), Vaishyas and Shudras have been shown. It is a memorial of when? Arey, of when is it a memorial? All this is going on now in practical in the Confluence Age as well. Some are going to become deity, some will become Kshatriyas and reach the Silver Age and some will become Vaishyas in the Copper Age, some will become Shudras.
In the path of worship, they have forgotten (to depict) Brahmins in the picture of Viraat purush that they have prepared. Nobody knows as to who will transform the Shudras into Brahmins. The Shudras are in the legs. Who should be after the Shudras? Will they become deities directly? How does it happen here in the world of Brahmins? Does ShivBaba come and teach the Brahmins or does ShivBaba teach the Shudras directly? Does ShivBaba make Brahmins or does He teach the Brahmins? Brahmins were prepared through Brahma. Then ShivBaba sits and teaches Brahmins, teaches the knowledge. Nobody can become deity without becoming a Brahmin because all are just herons and nothing else. Nobody has any knowledge at all.
The Father says, “this lust is the biggest enemy.” You even praise, “O purifier of the sinful ones come!” So, now the Father is saying, “Now you become pure.” You have become impure due to climbing on the pyre of lust again and again. Otherwise, tell how did you become sinful? What? You continued practicing to become impure for 63 births; so what did you become? You became impure again and again. A human being become impure only through lust (vikaar). What? He does not become impure by performing any (or every) task. How does one become (impure)? ‘Kaar’ means ‘kaarya’ (task), and ‘vikaar’ means ‘vipreet kaarya’ (opposite task). Whatever may be the task, there is a difference between love (pyaar) and beating (maar). If there is a task of love and if the task of love is transformed into a task of beating, then what will happen? What will it be called? It will be called ‘vikaar’. ‘Vi’ means vipreet (opposite). As there is Shrimat that – you have to give happiness to everyone and take happiness (but) the task of giving and taking happiness was not performed through the organs of action; what was done? You gave sorrow and took sorrow. So, human beings become impure.
Now the Father says as well, “You will become the conqueror of the world after gaining victory over lust.” This is a picture of Lakshmi-Narayan, isn’t it? They had gained victory over the world, hadn’t they ? You will come in their dynasty. In whose dynasty? You will come in the dynasty of the first Lakshmi-Narayan, the highest on high, who are the ones to be transformed from a man to Narayan and from a woman to Lakshmi. You will come in the highest on high dynasty. When I come, I establish a new world. What? What does the highest on high Father do? The highest on high Father comes and establishes the highest on high new world. Are all the other religious fathers numberwise or are they highest on high? They are numberwise religious fathers. So, how will the numberwise religious fathers establish a high capital? ... (to be continued)
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Note: The words in italics are Hindi words. Some words have been added in the brackets by the translator for better understanding of the translation.
VCD**** No.968, Cassette No.1454, dated 30.07.08 at Mangaldei
Clarification of Murli dated 01.06.68
Part-V
....Only one ShivBaba is an ocean, an ocean of knowledge. There is no question of its water being exhausted. You may bath any number of times there. And when a lake dries up, they bathe in mud in the path of worship. Here it is a question of which bath? (Someone said – bath of knowledge) Yes, the knowledge becomes dirty. What? It becomes filled with the dirt of adulteration. The intellect becomes unrighteous; in spite of that they continue to bath in it. What? In (knowledge given by) those with a Shudra-like intellect. And here the Father says, “I am an ocean.” The water of this ocean will never be exhausted. It will not turn into mud.
They go to the lake there and rub the mud on their body. Which mud? They rub the mud, i.e. mud of body consciousness. For example , when they go to the Ganges, some sages and saints, mahatmas (noble soul) rub the sand of Ganges on their body, but that is the sand of Ganges. What is the difference between the sand of Ganges and the sand of Yamuna? The sand of Ganges does not stick (to the body) and the mud of Yamuna sticks (to the body). The mud of body consciousness is such that it will attract the person who comes in its company towards itself. It will stick. So, tell whether these lakes, these rivers are purifier of the sinful ones? Even the lake dries up; rivers too dry up, the water turns dirty. The river becomes a drain. On one side they say that Ganges is purifier of the sinful ones. Now they say that they will transform the mud and dirt that has been accumulatred there into heaven. What? They say that they will establish heaven at the site of the lake at Kurukshetra where all the garbage becomes collected. We will make it the capital. Now we will do whatever Nanda (Gulzari lal Nanda) tells us. We will accept whatever guruji tells us. Look, what is the condition of these false devotees.
The devotees would be herons indeed, wouldn’t they Why are they called crane (bagula)? The heron stands in water on one leg. It appears as if he is doing tapasya (ascetic practice). Yes, he appears like a tapasvi (one who practices asceticism). And as soon as a fish aproachs him, he gobbles it immediately; then he stands on one foot once again. So, he is called a heron because he eats meat. He eats even rotten meat. Eating meat means eating poison. They do not eat meat but actually what do they eat? They eat poison. It is a poison of vices, poison of adulteration; that is why the swans and herons cannot live together. What was said? What do the herons eat? They will eat up rotten meat as well as rotten fish. And what about the swan? A swan picks up pearls. He will not even touch rotten meat. So, swans and cranes cannot live together.
Swans will never fight. What? What specialty of swans was said? They will never fight and the herons will babble and keep on fighting. There are many who become fed up of herons. Swans pick up pearls. Those herons eat dirt. Those with firm faith cannot live with the herons. What was said? Who live with herons? What was said? Who will live continuously with the herons who eat dirt? Those who have doubtful intellect live with the herons. Those who have firm faithful intellect cannot live with the herons. They will try how to…...…what to do? We should separate from the colour of company of these herons. They (swans) will say, “why should we waste our time with them (herons)? They are anyways wasting their time. Why should we….......Let them operate their lodging (dharmashala). We make our separate dharmashala. Why should we waste time? Arey, after all it is the task of all the swans to pick up pearls themselves and make others to pick-up pearls as well.
We all Prajapita Brahmakumar-kumaris are Brahmins. All of us are swans (hans). And as for the rest of the others are Shudras and herons. Shudras are (depicted) in the legs, are they not? When the picture of Viraat Purush (the Universal form of Vishnu) is prepared, where are the Shudras shown (in that picture)? In the legs. And where are the Brahmins depicted? They are depicted in the choti ( top-knot ). So, you are Prajapita Brahmakumar-kumaris, Brahmins. Shudras are in the legs. The picture of Viraat form has also been displayed in which deties, Kshatriyas (warriors), Vaishyas and Shudras have been shown. It is a memorial of when? Arey, of when is it a memorial? All this is going on now in practical in the Confluence Age as well. Some are going to become deity, some will become Kshatriyas and reach the Silver Age and some will become Vaishyas in the Copper Age, some will become Shudras.
In the path of worship, they have forgotten (to depict) Brahmins in the picture of Viraat purush that they have prepared. Nobody knows as to who will transform the Shudras into Brahmins. The Shudras are in the legs. Who should be after the Shudras? Will they become deities directly? How does it happen here in the world of Brahmins? Does ShivBaba come and teach the Brahmins or does ShivBaba teach the Shudras directly? Does ShivBaba make Brahmins or does He teach the Brahmins? Brahmins were prepared through Brahma. Then ShivBaba sits and teaches Brahmins, teaches the knowledge. Nobody can become deity without becoming a Brahmin because all are just herons and nothing else. Nobody has any knowledge at all.
The Father says, “this lust is the biggest enemy.” You even praise, “O purifier of the sinful ones come!” So, now the Father is saying, “Now you become pure.” You have become impure due to climbing on the pyre of lust again and again. Otherwise, tell how did you become sinful? What? You continued practicing to become impure for 63 births; so what did you become? You became impure again and again. A human being become impure only through lust (vikaar). What? He does not become impure by performing any (or every) task. How does one become (impure)? ‘Kaar’ means ‘kaarya’ (task), and ‘vikaar’ means ‘vipreet kaarya’ (opposite task). Whatever may be the task, there is a difference between love (pyaar) and beating (maar). If there is a task of love and if the task of love is transformed into a task of beating, then what will happen? What will it be called? It will be called ‘vikaar’. ‘Vi’ means vipreet (opposite). As there is Shrimat that – you have to give happiness to everyone and take happiness (but) the task of giving and taking happiness was not performed through the organs of action; what was done? You gave sorrow and took sorrow. So, human beings become impure.
Now the Father says as well, “You will become the conqueror of the world after gaining victory over lust.” This is a picture of Lakshmi-Narayan, isn’t it? They had gained victory over the world, hadn’t they ? You will come in their dynasty. In whose dynasty? You will come in the dynasty of the first Lakshmi-Narayan, the highest on high, who are the ones to be transformed from a man to Narayan and from a woman to Lakshmi. You will come in the highest on high dynasty. When I come, I establish a new world. What? What does the highest on high Father do? The highest on high Father comes and establishes the highest on high new world. Are all the other religious fathers numberwise or are they highest on high? They are numberwise religious fathers. So, how will the numberwise religious fathers establish a high capital? ... (to be continued)
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Note: The words in italics are Hindi words. Some words have been added in the brackets by the translator for better understanding of the translation.
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Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs
VCD***** No.968, Cassette No.1454, dated 30.07.08 at Mangaldei
Clarification of Murli dated 01.06.68
Part-VI
..........It is the praise for the Father, “Highest is your work, highest is your name, and highest is your abode.” So, I establish a new world. This Lakshmi and Narayan are the masters of heaven, are they not? This is a proof, isn’t it? What? What is the proof? All other kings in the world, whichever deities are there, they have been defamed, but Lakshmi and Narayan, whose kingdom was established by ShivBaba, any defamation of them is not in the scriptures; and the world doesn’t defame them either. I come and establish such perfect kingdom. Radhey and Krishna were Prince and Princess in their childhood. Who? These Lakshmi and Narayan. You have come here only to become the Prince and Princess of the Golden Age.
The Father says, “Lust is the biggest enemy.” After gaining victory over it you can go to the heaven, the pure world. After gaining victory over what? After gaining victory over lust you can go to the new world. If you have not conquered lust, you cannot go to heaven. And the Golden Age is said for heaven indeed. What? False tasks are not called heaven. The tasks of theft are not called heaven. What is called ( heaven)? What is the Golden Age named? Satyug (the Golden Age). If someone does the work of stealing, will he speak lies or will he speak the truth? He will speak lies. He will establish an abode of falsehood. And what about you? You are the ones to establish the abode of truth and go to the Golden Age, aren’t you?
Although Ram and Sita are called deities in the Silver Age, they do not belong to the Golden Age. What? Two celestial degrees are reduced. The truth of the soul is reduced. Although they are called deities, they are (actually) semi-deities. It is reduced by 25 percent. To what extent do their celestial degrees reduce? Two celestial degrees are reduced. You know that we have come here only to be transformed from a man to Narayan. What? Those Brahmakumar-kumaris, those Brahmins do not know that why have they come here to study this knowledge? Do you know? What do you know? They say, “we will leave our bodies here like Brahma Baba, like Mama and we will take birth in the Golden Age in the next birth, but you know that we have to be transformed from man to Narayan in here alone. So, you will havr to be transformed from a man to a prince. Beggar to prince; the one who sacrifices his body, mind, place, loved ones, and family and becomes a beggar in Godly service, what will they become from a beggar ? They will become prince. They will certainly become.
Then false stories have been made about them. Whose? What kind of story has been made about those who transform from beggar to prince and from prince to Narayan, from man to Narayan? They have made a false story . Havr they made false story? There should be a true story of them; why have they made a false story? It is because here in this shooting period alone, those who are the ones to transform from a man to Narayan, only false continues in their lives of making special efforts for the soul. What? What is said about them even in the world of Brahmins? Only lies (are being spoken about them). So, they have made false stories, which you have heard since many births. What? Which stories are the main ones? What is the name? The story of the true Narayan (SatyaNarayan).
They simply give the name as ‘the story of the true Narayan’ and in that there is no name or trace of the life story of the true Narayan. There is a story of Lakad-hara (the wood-cutter), Lakad-baggha (a hyena), Leelavati, Kalawati and there is no story of the true Narayan at all. They have narrated false stories. We have never heard about the story for becoming Ram and Sita. What? There is no story for becoming Ram and Sita. And there is a story for becoming a true Narayan. That too has been made false. The story of Ram and Sita is not heaven. The stories of Ramayana, etc. which you have been listening are the ones to guide you to hell. After listening to them you have undergone only degradation. Who wrote the story of Ramayan? Arey, Tulsidas wrote it, didn’t he ? Only human beings made it , didn’t they? So, you have undergone degradation after listening to the stories written by the human beings.
Human beings can never bring about true salvation to human beings. Then how will the true salvation of human beings be brought? Who will give? The one who is not a human being (manushya), i.e. he does not remain the one to think and churn. Until thinking and churning is going on, the mind works, what is he? A manushya (human being) and if he makes his mind mindless (aman). I am a soul, a point of light; my Father is a point of light; any thought other than this may not emerge, when such a stage is achieved then he will be called incorporeal. What will he be called? Incorporeal, viceless and egoless. It is the form of God. They say, “a soul is the same as a Supreme Soul.” Will all the 500-700 crore (5-7 billion) souls, who are points of light, become point- of the Supreme Soul? Do they become? No. That is the praise for only one soul. What? This is the praise for only about the Father of the souls, the living souls, the one who is the Father of the human world. And even that praise is of the time when the Supreme Soul enters him. When He enters, he is coloured by his company and he is transformed from a man to the one like the Narayan.Om Shanti .........(concluded)
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Note: The words in italics are Hindi words. Some words have been added in the brackets by the translator for better understanding of the translation.
VCD***** No.968, Cassette No.1454, dated 30.07.08 at Mangaldei
Clarification of Murli dated 01.06.68
Part-VI
..........It is the praise for the Father, “Highest is your work, highest is your name, and highest is your abode.” So, I establish a new world. This Lakshmi and Narayan are the masters of heaven, are they not? This is a proof, isn’t it? What? What is the proof? All other kings in the world, whichever deities are there, they have been defamed, but Lakshmi and Narayan, whose kingdom was established by ShivBaba, any defamation of them is not in the scriptures; and the world doesn’t defame them either. I come and establish such perfect kingdom. Radhey and Krishna were Prince and Princess in their childhood. Who? These Lakshmi and Narayan. You have come here only to become the Prince and Princess of the Golden Age.
The Father says, “Lust is the biggest enemy.” After gaining victory over it you can go to the heaven, the pure world. After gaining victory over what? After gaining victory over lust you can go to the new world. If you have not conquered lust, you cannot go to heaven. And the Golden Age is said for heaven indeed. What? False tasks are not called heaven. The tasks of theft are not called heaven. What is called ( heaven)? What is the Golden Age named? Satyug (the Golden Age). If someone does the work of stealing, will he speak lies or will he speak the truth? He will speak lies. He will establish an abode of falsehood. And what about you? You are the ones to establish the abode of truth and go to the Golden Age, aren’t you?
Although Ram and Sita are called deities in the Silver Age, they do not belong to the Golden Age. What? Two celestial degrees are reduced. The truth of the soul is reduced. Although they are called deities, they are (actually) semi-deities. It is reduced by 25 percent. To what extent do their celestial degrees reduce? Two celestial degrees are reduced. You know that we have come here only to be transformed from a man to Narayan. What? Those Brahmakumar-kumaris, those Brahmins do not know that why have they come here to study this knowledge? Do you know? What do you know? They say, “we will leave our bodies here like Brahma Baba, like Mama and we will take birth in the Golden Age in the next birth, but you know that we have to be transformed from man to Narayan in here alone. So, you will havr to be transformed from a man to a prince. Beggar to prince; the one who sacrifices his body, mind, place, loved ones, and family and becomes a beggar in Godly service, what will they become from a beggar ? They will become prince. They will certainly become.
Then false stories have been made about them. Whose? What kind of story has been made about those who transform from beggar to prince and from prince to Narayan, from man to Narayan? They have made a false story . Havr they made false story? There should be a true story of them; why have they made a false story? It is because here in this shooting period alone, those who are the ones to transform from a man to Narayan, only false continues in their lives of making special efforts for the soul. What? What is said about them even in the world of Brahmins? Only lies (are being spoken about them). So, they have made false stories, which you have heard since many births. What? Which stories are the main ones? What is the name? The story of the true Narayan (SatyaNarayan).
They simply give the name as ‘the story of the true Narayan’ and in that there is no name or trace of the life story of the true Narayan. There is a story of Lakad-hara (the wood-cutter), Lakad-baggha (a hyena), Leelavati, Kalawati and there is no story of the true Narayan at all. They have narrated false stories. We have never heard about the story for becoming Ram and Sita. What? There is no story for becoming Ram and Sita. And there is a story for becoming a true Narayan. That too has been made false. The story of Ram and Sita is not heaven. The stories of Ramayana, etc. which you have been listening are the ones to guide you to hell. After listening to them you have undergone only degradation. Who wrote the story of Ramayan? Arey, Tulsidas wrote it, didn’t he ? Only human beings made it , didn’t they? So, you have undergone degradation after listening to the stories written by the human beings.
Human beings can never bring about true salvation to human beings. Then how will the true salvation of human beings be brought? Who will give? The one who is not a human being (manushya), i.e. he does not remain the one to think and churn. Until thinking and churning is going on, the mind works, what is he? A manushya (human being) and if he makes his mind mindless (aman). I am a soul, a point of light; my Father is a point of light; any thought other than this may not emerge, when such a stage is achieved then he will be called incorporeal. What will he be called? Incorporeal, viceless and egoless. It is the form of God. They say, “a soul is the same as a Supreme Soul.” Will all the 500-700 crore (5-7 billion) souls, who are points of light, become point- of the Supreme Soul? Do they become? No. That is the praise for only one soul. What? This is the praise for only about the Father of the souls, the living souls, the one who is the Father of the human world. And even that praise is of the time when the Supreme Soul enters him. When He enters, he is coloured by his company and he is transformed from a man to the one like the Narayan.Om Shanti .........(concluded)
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Note: The words in italics are Hindi words. Some words have been added in the brackets by the translator for better understanding of the translation.
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Re: Extracts of PBK Murlis - as narrated to the PBKs
VCD No.969, Cassette No.1455, dated 2.8.08 at Vijayvihar (Delhi)
Clarification of Murli dated 01.06.68
Part-I
The morning class dated 1st June, 1968 was going on. The discourse was going on in the middle of the second page . The stories of Ramayan, etc. which you have been listening, they all are for taking you to hell. Those stories have caused only degradation because they are filled with all the topics of blindfaith. A human being can never ring about true salvation to the (fellow) human being because a human being has mind. He does not know how to remain peaceful (aman), comfortable (chain). Mind is always inconstant (chanchal). Only that person, who has controlled his mind completely, can be peaceful. Now you children receive the Shrimat of one Father, who is the one to always remain in peace and comfort. If you remember Me, all your sins, which has forms a covering over the mind and intellect would be destroyed. You also understand that you remember numberwise because even in the deity dynasty you will be numberwise indeed.
So, you make numberwise special effort for the soul to concentrate the mind. The Father explains, “The best way to concentrate the mind is – Whatever trust (amaanat) you have, it is God’s amaanat ; ‘everything is yours, nothing is mine’.” When nothing is mine, then where will you focus your mind? It is the rule of mind, ‘wherever my body will be, wherever there my wealth will be, my mind will focus there alone. If the entire property of the body and the wealth is used for the sake of God, for Godly task, then the mind will remain focused only on God. They say as well, “God has given (us) this child.” They just say. If someone has wealth, they will say, “God has given it. It is by God’s grace. ” It is truly God’s grace because whatever donation and charity they do in the name of God, they receive (the returns of) it for a short period in the next birth. They gain attainments as per the karmas (action) performed by them. Some build a dharmashala (free lodging for pilgrims); they receive big palaces, buildings and cottages in the next birth. If someone builds a university, a school etc., he/she receives good education in the next birth, he/she becomes knowledgeable ones. So, they receive fruits according to the actions performed by them.
Now there are numerous human beings. One’s nature and sanskar, mentality does not match with the other. This is a variety drama and a fixed drama. It is going to be repeated as it is; there cannot be any change in this. It is even said, ‘bani banaai ban rahee, ab kuch ban-ni naay’ (whatever is pre-determined is being enacted; nothing new is to be enacted). When was it made? They have made it in the 63 births as well. As per the actions they have performed , their special effort for the souls continues when they become Brahmins. Even among the Brahmins, everyone will play the part assigned to him. If someone has a part of creating commotion , he will create commotion , he will create a turmoil. Well, everyone will play whatever part he/she has played in the previous Kalpa.
So, look, this is a drama. There cannot be any changes in this. You tell about both the corporeal world and Subtle Region. Even in the Soul World actors live numberwise. They are actor-like souls, are they not? Some are actors of a good and high category ; some are actors of a lower category. Those who play a higher part will certainly sit on a high position, will they not? So, they are numberwise. Then they come (from the Soul World) numberwise at their assigned time. Some play an allround part on this world stage and some come in the last period like flies and mosquitoes. They take one or two births and perish. It is as if they do not hold any value at all. But this is a subject of the souls. The Supreme Soul incarnates only once in the entire Kalpa. Incarnation of one is famous. As such, all the souls assume their bodies and play their parts. Some come from above; they too should be called as incarnation. They too are incarnations, but the true incarnation is of only one.
The Father says, “When the cycle of the drama completes, I have to come.” At that time the rule of Maya ends. When the rule of Maya completes, then I come and give you the kingship of the Golden Age and the Silver Age. God Himself establishes heaven. Nobody except God can establish heaven. The big-big great souls, big-big personalities like Abraham, Buddha, Christ, who have crores (billions) of followers. They continued to come (from the Soul World) and went on creating hell. The world continued to become even more hell. Nobody created heaven. What is the root cause for this? Its root cause is that nobody is the one to fix in self-stage. It is the Father alone, who is the one to remain constant in the self-stage forever because of being the creator of heaven. It is only He who comes and establishes heaven.
Heaven is established; sustenance takes place for half a Kalpa; then the kingdom of Ravan begins. Even the kingdom of Ravan is initially satopradhan (dominated by the quality of goodness and purity), then satosamanya (where there is ordinary goodness and purity), then it becomes tamo (dominated by the quality of darkness or ignorance). Everything in the world passes through four stages. When Ravan gives too much sorrow in the Iron Age, his effigy is burnt. The devotees think that it is being burnt in accordance with the tradition.
The Father explains, “initially you used to worship only one Shiv. Your worship was unadulterated as well.” Call it Bhakti, call it worship, it is one and the same. Also Bhakti is unadulterated initially, satopradhan. From where did those satopradhan devotees come in the beginning of the Copper Age? They come after the Golden Age and the Silver Age has passed. All the human beings say, “it has been continuing as per the tradition.” Bhakti has been continuing forever. It never stops. These human beings have developed a stone-like intellect. When someone does not study well, people say, “you have a stone-like intellect”, don’t they? You don’t study anything. Nothing fits in your intellect. You keep crying about yourself. Even the unlimited Father tells the children similarly. Remember Me, so that your sins of making others cry and causing commotion will be burnt.
You have promised, “O Baba, when you come, I will follow only your opinion.” Just as that Governor says, “I will follow only the opinion of Nanda.” That is the subject in a limited sense. Here it is the subject in an unlimited sense. Call him Nanda; what name has he been given in the path of worship? Nand Baba. The one who always remains happy. So, this is the subject in an unlimited sense. Only the one who remains busy in knowledge will be the one to remain in happiness in an unlimited sense. They say too, “sat-chit-anand (the one who has a true and happy heart).” So, you children know that now we will become righteous on the Shrimat of the Father and the Shrimat that is received is one. Ravan has many heads; so they keep getting different kinds of opinions. There are numerous gurus. Their opinion is unrighteous. Ravan is the one who gives many opinions. Ram is shown to have one head. You did not used to understand (the concept of) the kingdom of Ram and kingdom of Ravan earlier ......(to be continued)
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Note: The words in italics are Hindi words. Some words have been added in the brackets by the translator for better understanding of the translation.
Clarification of Murli dated 01.06.68
Part-I
The morning class dated 1st June, 1968 was going on. The discourse was going on in the middle of the second page . The stories of Ramayan, etc. which you have been listening, they all are for taking you to hell. Those stories have caused only degradation because they are filled with all the topics of blindfaith. A human being can never ring about true salvation to the (fellow) human being because a human being has mind. He does not know how to remain peaceful (aman), comfortable (chain). Mind is always inconstant (chanchal). Only that person, who has controlled his mind completely, can be peaceful. Now you children receive the Shrimat of one Father, who is the one to always remain in peace and comfort. If you remember Me, all your sins, which has forms a covering over the mind and intellect would be destroyed. You also understand that you remember numberwise because even in the deity dynasty you will be numberwise indeed.
So, you make numberwise special effort for the soul to concentrate the mind. The Father explains, “The best way to concentrate the mind is – Whatever trust (amaanat) you have, it is God’s amaanat ; ‘everything is yours, nothing is mine’.” When nothing is mine, then where will you focus your mind? It is the rule of mind, ‘wherever my body will be, wherever there my wealth will be, my mind will focus there alone. If the entire property of the body and the wealth is used for the sake of God, for Godly task, then the mind will remain focused only on God. They say as well, “God has given (us) this child.” They just say. If someone has wealth, they will say, “God has given it. It is by God’s grace. ” It is truly God’s grace because whatever donation and charity they do in the name of God, they receive (the returns of) it for a short period in the next birth. They gain attainments as per the karmas (action) performed by them. Some build a dharmashala (free lodging for pilgrims); they receive big palaces, buildings and cottages in the next birth. If someone builds a university, a school etc., he/she receives good education in the next birth, he/she becomes knowledgeable ones. So, they receive fruits according to the actions performed by them.
Now there are numerous human beings. One’s nature and sanskar, mentality does not match with the other. This is a variety drama and a fixed drama. It is going to be repeated as it is; there cannot be any change in this. It is even said, ‘bani banaai ban rahee, ab kuch ban-ni naay’ (whatever is pre-determined is being enacted; nothing new is to be enacted). When was it made? They have made it in the 63 births as well. As per the actions they have performed , their special effort for the souls continues when they become Brahmins. Even among the Brahmins, everyone will play the part assigned to him. If someone has a part of creating commotion , he will create commotion , he will create a turmoil. Well, everyone will play whatever part he/she has played in the previous Kalpa.
So, look, this is a drama. There cannot be any changes in this. You tell about both the corporeal world and Subtle Region. Even in the Soul World actors live numberwise. They are actor-like souls, are they not? Some are actors of a good and high category ; some are actors of a lower category. Those who play a higher part will certainly sit on a high position, will they not? So, they are numberwise. Then they come (from the Soul World) numberwise at their assigned time. Some play an allround part on this world stage and some come in the last period like flies and mosquitoes. They take one or two births and perish. It is as if they do not hold any value at all. But this is a subject of the souls. The Supreme Soul incarnates only once in the entire Kalpa. Incarnation of one is famous. As such, all the souls assume their bodies and play their parts. Some come from above; they too should be called as incarnation. They too are incarnations, but the true incarnation is of only one.
The Father says, “When the cycle of the drama completes, I have to come.” At that time the rule of Maya ends. When the rule of Maya completes, then I come and give you the kingship of the Golden Age and the Silver Age. God Himself establishes heaven. Nobody except God can establish heaven. The big-big great souls, big-big personalities like Abraham, Buddha, Christ, who have crores (billions) of followers. They continued to come (from the Soul World) and went on creating hell. The world continued to become even more hell. Nobody created heaven. What is the root cause for this? Its root cause is that nobody is the one to fix in self-stage. It is the Father alone, who is the one to remain constant in the self-stage forever because of being the creator of heaven. It is only He who comes and establishes heaven.
Heaven is established; sustenance takes place for half a Kalpa; then the kingdom of Ravan begins. Even the kingdom of Ravan is initially satopradhan (dominated by the quality of goodness and purity), then satosamanya (where there is ordinary goodness and purity), then it becomes tamo (dominated by the quality of darkness or ignorance). Everything in the world passes through four stages. When Ravan gives too much sorrow in the Iron Age, his effigy is burnt. The devotees think that it is being burnt in accordance with the tradition.
The Father explains, “initially you used to worship only one Shiv. Your worship was unadulterated as well.” Call it Bhakti, call it worship, it is one and the same. Also Bhakti is unadulterated initially, satopradhan. From where did those satopradhan devotees come in the beginning of the Copper Age? They come after the Golden Age and the Silver Age has passed. All the human beings say, “it has been continuing as per the tradition.” Bhakti has been continuing forever. It never stops. These human beings have developed a stone-like intellect. When someone does not study well, people say, “you have a stone-like intellect”, don’t they? You don’t study anything. Nothing fits in your intellect. You keep crying about yourself. Even the unlimited Father tells the children similarly. Remember Me, so that your sins of making others cry and causing commotion will be burnt.
You have promised, “O Baba, when you come, I will follow only your opinion.” Just as that Governor says, “I will follow only the opinion of Nanda.” That is the subject in a limited sense. Here it is the subject in an unlimited sense. Call him Nanda; what name has he been given in the path of worship? Nand Baba. The one who always remains happy. So, this is the subject in an unlimited sense. Only the one who remains busy in knowledge will be the one to remain in happiness in an unlimited sense. They say too, “sat-chit-anand (the one who has a true and happy heart).” So, you children know that now we will become righteous on the Shrimat of the Father and the Shrimat that is received is one. Ravan has many heads; so they keep getting different kinds of opinions. There are numerous gurus. Their opinion is unrighteous. Ravan is the one who gives many opinions. Ram is shown to have one head. You did not used to understand (the concept of) the kingdom of Ram and kingdom of Ravan earlier ......(to be continued)
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Note: The words in italics are Hindi words. Some words have been added in the brackets by the translator for better understanding of the translation.
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Re: Extracts of PBK Murlis - as narrated to the PBKs
VCD* No.969, Cassette No.1455, dated 2.8.08 at Vijayvihar (Delhi)
Clarification of Murli dated 01.06.68
Part-II
..............Third page of the Vani dated first June, 1968. Whatever human beings used to narrate, you used to say it to be truth. Everyone is sleeping in the darkness of ignorance. Now, whatever you will listen, you will not accept all those subjects as truth. Earlier you too were sleeping in the sleep of Kumbhakarna (brother of Ravan). Now Baba has come and has awakened you. The Father says, “the Chariot in which I have entered also had a monkey-like intellect. He was everybody’s head.” It is a praise as well, “First so last. Last so first.’ In the beginning of the world, the dynasty that existed at first will be there again. That too numberwise. Everyone does not have 84 births. It also goes on decreasing. Now the Father is here. How many births will the souls that are coming from above take? Think it to be one or two births. Some may even take three births, but no. The Father says, “one (birth)”; because all the new ones who come are glorified so much. Then all the leaves on top keep turning yellow. The glorified continues of the new ones. The old ones keep turning yellow. It happens like this in the Confluence-age shooting as well. These are topics to be understood. Children have also understood the secret of the (Kalpa) Tree and those who have understood have also become capable of explaining to others.
Just one of your pictures is sufficient (to explain to anyone). It can open the lock of anybody’s intellect. The picture of Shyam-Sundar is shown. Tell them, “It is only the human beings who take rebirth, isn’t it?’ Taking rebirth starts from the beginning of the Golden Age. Shri Krishna is the first leaf of the human world. He is a small child. The world does not know these topics. They say, “ShivShankar Bholey-Bhaaley.” He is a lord of the innocent ones, but they do not understand anything. They have a stone-like intellect. We too were no less. We had the most stone-like intellect. That is why now we are becoming those with a paaras (a touchstone)-like intellect at first. It is even praised, “ The stone-like intellect transforms to a paaras-like intellect. The paaras-like intellect transforms to a stone-like intellect.” The kingdom which becomes paaras-like transforms into a kingdom of stones then. There was the rule of Paarasnaath and Paarasnaathini. A memorial has been built in Nepal. Then they say Pashupatinath instead of Paarasnath in Nepal. It means that He is a lord of the animals.
Nath means the one who puts a nose-ring, the one who controls. This Pashupati is a name, isn’t it? Tell (them that) now everyone is an animal. You yourself too are an animal because you don’t know yourself. You have defamed the unlimited Father more than yourself. You put yourself in 84 lakh species and you have put the Father in innumerable thikkar (small lumps of soil) – bhittar (walls) , every particle. You should use your intellect. Will the highest on high Father certainly enter in a highest on high (being) or will He enter in the ones with a thikkar and bhittar-like intellect? Will He enter in those who play a part of negligible things like molecules?
The Father says, “Whenever India reaches such a condition….... it is a praise as well – ‘Yadaa yadaa hee dharmasya glaanirbhavati......” These words are from Gita; these words are not available in any other scriptures. Defamation (glaani) does not take place in the Golden Age. There is praise of Ram’s kingdom in the Silver Age. Downfall does not take place to such extent even in the Copper Age. Defamation takes place only in the Iron Age; in the tamopradhan Age. Look, all these scriptures are based on the opinions of the human beings. Only human beings have prepared them on the basis of their own opinion. As the mind of the human being went on becoming vicious, they started filling the more subjects of making vicious in the scriptures. This is not Shrimat because no religious Father comes and writes a religious book or sits and narrates any religious book. They come and narrate orally. So, even the Father had narrated the knowledge of Gita orally and indeed God had narrated it. There is only one scripture of God – ‘the Gita’.
Now you have become tamopradhan while following the opinion of human beings. Now the entire world is benefited through Shrimat. A divine deity world is established in place of this human world. The mind and intellect becomes divine. Even then the Father is explaining and those who understand are understanding as well numberwise as per their purusharth (special effort for the soul). The Father wants that many people who can explain (to others) should get ready and come out, but they do not come out at all. Some have some kind of bondage and others have other kind of bondage. A bird with bondages will keep flying at a low level. The one without bondages will fly in a high stage. If you don’t do service, then you will not receive so much fruits as well. Then Father will not be pleased.
The Father remembers only the serviceable children. The Father knows each and everyone. Among these children, who are the children who remember me and do service? Many do come here, but those who do not do service, think that they come here for a short period. The Father knows – their soul is of no use. They have a worthless intellect. He observes every one – this one has a first class intellect, this one has a second class intellect, this one has a third class intellect. What will these third class ones be able to attract anyone? What service will they be able to do? When they come in front (of the Father) they stand as if they remember the Father a lot. Although the Father loves a lot because the Father is a big diplomat. I know very well; even then I keep explaining lovingly, strictly. The part of being beaten by Dharmaraj will be played later on. Dharmaraj is the Father’s right hand. So, He keeps explaining strictly and lovingly, “If you do not do service, then I do not love you truly, too.” That is why it has been said as well, “There is a very big tact involved in the inner and outer love of the Father (for his children).” His heart is attracted to the nice children. (He thinks that) he is an obedient dutiful child.
They ask, “Baba what should we do?” What does Baba give? What will he say? The Father will say, “use it in your own task.” Baba Himself says, “I love the thorns as well as the flowers.” And in the Iron Age there are thorns as well as flowers. In the Golden Age both do not exist together. Many children are such fools who think, “Baba does not know my behaviour.” Arey, what is the need for Baba too to know the internal behaviour of everyone? The drama has been made, whatever one does , he/she will obtain the fruits accordingly. There is no need for me to know and see at all. If you remember, it will be only you to receive its fruits. If you do not remember at all, if you just keep telling then you will degrade your post. What’s the need for Baba to know or to see as well? If they indulge in vices and say here , “we are viceless”; so they spoke lies, did they not? They will receive hundred times punishment; they will put themselves in loss even more......................(to be continued)
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Note: The words in italics are Hindi words. Some words have been added in the brackets by the translator for better understanding of the translation.
Clarification of Murli dated 01.06.68
Part-II
..............Third page of the Vani dated first June, 1968. Whatever human beings used to narrate, you used to say it to be truth. Everyone is sleeping in the darkness of ignorance. Now, whatever you will listen, you will not accept all those subjects as truth. Earlier you too were sleeping in the sleep of Kumbhakarna (brother of Ravan). Now Baba has come and has awakened you. The Father says, “the Chariot in which I have entered also had a monkey-like intellect. He was everybody’s head.” It is a praise as well, “First so last. Last so first.’ In the beginning of the world, the dynasty that existed at first will be there again. That too numberwise. Everyone does not have 84 births. It also goes on decreasing. Now the Father is here. How many births will the souls that are coming from above take? Think it to be one or two births. Some may even take three births, but no. The Father says, “one (birth)”; because all the new ones who come are glorified so much. Then all the leaves on top keep turning yellow. The glorified continues of the new ones. The old ones keep turning yellow. It happens like this in the Confluence-age shooting as well. These are topics to be understood. Children have also understood the secret of the (Kalpa) Tree and those who have understood have also become capable of explaining to others.
Just one of your pictures is sufficient (to explain to anyone). It can open the lock of anybody’s intellect. The picture of Shyam-Sundar is shown. Tell them, “It is only the human beings who take rebirth, isn’t it?’ Taking rebirth starts from the beginning of the Golden Age. Shri Krishna is the first leaf of the human world. He is a small child. The world does not know these topics. They say, “ShivShankar Bholey-Bhaaley.” He is a lord of the innocent ones, but they do not understand anything. They have a stone-like intellect. We too were no less. We had the most stone-like intellect. That is why now we are becoming those with a paaras (a touchstone)-like intellect at first. It is even praised, “ The stone-like intellect transforms to a paaras-like intellect. The paaras-like intellect transforms to a stone-like intellect.” The kingdom which becomes paaras-like transforms into a kingdom of stones then. There was the rule of Paarasnaath and Paarasnaathini. A memorial has been built in Nepal. Then they say Pashupatinath instead of Paarasnath in Nepal. It means that He is a lord of the animals.
Nath means the one who puts a nose-ring, the one who controls. This Pashupati is a name, isn’t it? Tell (them that) now everyone is an animal. You yourself too are an animal because you don’t know yourself. You have defamed the unlimited Father more than yourself. You put yourself in 84 lakh species and you have put the Father in innumerable thikkar (small lumps of soil) – bhittar (walls) , every particle. You should use your intellect. Will the highest on high Father certainly enter in a highest on high (being) or will He enter in the ones with a thikkar and bhittar-like intellect? Will He enter in those who play a part of negligible things like molecules?
The Father says, “Whenever India reaches such a condition….... it is a praise as well – ‘Yadaa yadaa hee dharmasya glaanirbhavati......” These words are from Gita; these words are not available in any other scriptures. Defamation (glaani) does not take place in the Golden Age. There is praise of Ram’s kingdom in the Silver Age. Downfall does not take place to such extent even in the Copper Age. Defamation takes place only in the Iron Age; in the tamopradhan Age. Look, all these scriptures are based on the opinions of the human beings. Only human beings have prepared them on the basis of their own opinion. As the mind of the human being went on becoming vicious, they started filling the more subjects of making vicious in the scriptures. This is not Shrimat because no religious Father comes and writes a religious book or sits and narrates any religious book. They come and narrate orally. So, even the Father had narrated the knowledge of Gita orally and indeed God had narrated it. There is only one scripture of God – ‘the Gita’.
Now you have become tamopradhan while following the opinion of human beings. Now the entire world is benefited through Shrimat. A divine deity world is established in place of this human world. The mind and intellect becomes divine. Even then the Father is explaining and those who understand are understanding as well numberwise as per their purusharth (special effort for the soul). The Father wants that many people who can explain (to others) should get ready and come out, but they do not come out at all. Some have some kind of bondage and others have other kind of bondage. A bird with bondages will keep flying at a low level. The one without bondages will fly in a high stage. If you don’t do service, then you will not receive so much fruits as well. Then Father will not be pleased.
The Father remembers only the serviceable children. The Father knows each and everyone. Among these children, who are the children who remember me and do service? Many do come here, but those who do not do service, think that they come here for a short period. The Father knows – their soul is of no use. They have a worthless intellect. He observes every one – this one has a first class intellect, this one has a second class intellect, this one has a third class intellect. What will these third class ones be able to attract anyone? What service will they be able to do? When they come in front (of the Father) they stand as if they remember the Father a lot. Although the Father loves a lot because the Father is a big diplomat. I know very well; even then I keep explaining lovingly, strictly. The part of being beaten by Dharmaraj will be played later on. Dharmaraj is the Father’s right hand. So, He keeps explaining strictly and lovingly, “If you do not do service, then I do not love you truly, too.” That is why it has been said as well, “There is a very big tact involved in the inner and outer love of the Father (for his children).” His heart is attracted to the nice children. (He thinks that) he is an obedient dutiful child.
They ask, “Baba what should we do?” What does Baba give? What will he say? The Father will say, “use it in your own task.” Baba Himself says, “I love the thorns as well as the flowers.” And in the Iron Age there are thorns as well as flowers. In the Golden Age both do not exist together. Many children are such fools who think, “Baba does not know my behaviour.” Arey, what is the need for Baba too to know the internal behaviour of everyone? The drama has been made, whatever one does , he/she will obtain the fruits accordingly. There is no need for me to know and see at all. If you remember, it will be only you to receive its fruits. If you do not remember at all, if you just keep telling then you will degrade your post. What’s the need for Baba to know or to see as well? If they indulge in vices and say here , “we are viceless”; so they spoke lies, did they not? They will receive hundred times punishment; they will put themselves in loss even more......................(to be continued)
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Note: The words in italics are Hindi words. Some words have been added in the brackets by the translator for better understanding of the translation.
Re: Extracts of PBK Murlis - as narrated to the PBKs
VCD No.969, Cassette No.1455, dated 2.8.08 at Vijayvihar (Delhi)
Clarification of Murli dated 01.06.68
Part-III
...........Here many are asked, “Have you disobeyed in any manner?” Have you caused sorrow to anyone? When they are asked here nobody lifts his/her hand. It comes to my mind that in this gathering of 300-400 except 10-20 everyone should lift his/her hand that they disobey because they do not at all accept the farman (order) said through the mouth of the Father. Now the Father says, “Remember only Me.” This is the only main thing. They do not remember ; this is a mistake, isn’t it?
Fouth page of the dated first June, 1968. If they do not remember, they spoil their own post, but body consciousness is such that they do not state their mistake at all. Well, everyone commits mistakes. So, everyone should raise their hands. If they become the ones who don’t commit mistakes now, then they all will achieve the karmaateet (stage beyond the effect of actions) stage. If they do not remember the Father, it is a mistake, isn’t it? When you remember correctly, you also become completely pure.
The Father says, “O child! Now remember only Me.” If you do not remember, then certainly you must be causing sorrows to one or the other. You must be causing sorrows to yourself. Nobody has become perfect in 16 celestial degrees now. So, definitely some or the other mistake keeps happening. The main thing that the Father says, “consider yourself to be a soul and remember the Father; then your burden of sins that you have accumulated since many births will descend.
All these saints and sages have forgotten the Father who is the purifier of the sinful ones. They have forgotten; only then do they go to bathe in the waters. They think, “we will become pure.” They keep going to lakes as well as ponds. Even if the lake dries up, their pilgrimage center continues to remain the same. When does the shooting take place now? This shooting too is taking place in the Confluence-age world of Brahmins. They keep listening to their bath of knowledge. The main (water of) knowledge that has been given through God has entirely dried up. It is full of only mud and nothing else of body consciousness. Even then they keep bathing (in such muddy waters). They also add a little water and then rub the mud (on their body). They worship the stone as well. What do they do in the shooting period? They worship stones in the path of worship. Whom do they worship in the shooting period? They keep worshiping those with stone-like intellect. They place them on the forehead; they will play in their laps . For example, a buffalo likes to play in the mud. Going to such pilgrimage centers, their intellect becomes like that of a buffalo. This path of worship has been made only for those with buffalo-like intellect. They keep worshiping so many. They do not understand anything. They simply keep observing like a mad person (tawaai). Well everyone in the path of worship has a buffalo-like intellect. It will not be said in the path of knowledge that everyone has a buffalo-like intellect?
Some are such that they feel very hot, so they go and sit in cold water. They are filled with the heat of lust; that is why they need cold. The fire of lust keeps burning them. I make you sit on the pyre of knowledge and make you and your organs cool. After sitting on the pyre of lust, the sins of many births went on accumulating on your head. This Bhakti causes just sins and nothing else. The intellect becomes jammed due to following the concepts of blind faith. Your intellect becomes black like a buffalo. Buffaloes are black, are they not? So, the intellect becomes tamopradhan, black as well. They have then made Krishna black in the path of worship. God says, “They have become black after sitting on the pyre of lust. That is why they have shown Krishna to be black as well as Ram to be black; also Narayan has been shown to be black. Jagannath has been shown to be black as well. And they make even Shivling as black. Of when is it is a memorial? Also in the shooting period in the Confluence Age it happens similarly.
Human beings will become angry on being told all these things. You will say, “Krishna is black, tamopradhan, is the one to take 84 births. He is the one to come in the cycle of faith and doubt again and again. They will become angry as soon as they hear this from you. They say, “Do you call him black? He is omnipresent. How can he be black?” (Tell them), “Arey! You yourself have made this black picture. Nobody else is the one to make him black. Come, let me explain you the meaning of this subject.” This Krishna was first in the Golden Age. Then slowly, he came in the Iron Age. This is indeed the Iron Age. Iron is black, isn’t it? A soul that has climbed on the pyre of lust becomes black. When the soul is black, the body becomes black too. Some even say, “the outer form of a human being is an image of his mind.” So, also the body becomes black. When the soul is pure the body received will be pure as well. You have come here only to make your soul pure. You know that the soul will go on becoming powerful and this body will go on rotting. The powerful souls will do a lot of service even through the rotting body.
Now look, human beings sit and make human beings as gurus. One human being made another one as guru. Well, who is greater among both of them? Nanda was made the guru. So, is Nanda great or the Minister who flatters him greater? Poor fellows don’t know anything. All these are people with a black iron-like, buffalo-like intellect. This Bhakti makes them the ones with buffalo-like intellect. Then I come and make them fair. Krishna is called Shyaam-Sundar, isn’t he? They do say, but nobody knows. They should also know, shouldn’t they? Where does the shooting take place? In the very world of Brahmins there are such weak Brahmins who say, “Krishna alias Brahma is black in this birth. In the next birth, i.e. in the Golden Age, he will become fair Krishna. Its memorial has been built in the path of worship. Well, is Shyamsundar a praise of the same body or a praise of the bodies of two births? They do not understand anything that how Krishna enters in an appointed Chariot and plays a black role as well as later on, in the same birth, through the same body plays a fair part.
So, where did Krishna was a master of the Golden Age go? He has taken 84 rebirths, has he not? So, who is in the first number? The one who leaves Me and comes first of all from the Soul World. Only Krishna will be said to be the main one, won’t he? Which Krishna? Is it the Krishna who takes birth in the Golden Age, the first creation of the world or his creator Father? Who will be placed at the first number? It will certainly be said for the Confluence-age Krishna. They receive the name of Lakshmi and Narayan after 25-30 years. Even in the path of worship the name changes after marriage, does it not? So, look, how they become dark complexioned while taking rebirths? So, now the Father comes and transforms the buffalo-like intellect to a Godly intellect. People become black through the opinions of human beings. Now you receive Godly opinion.
Those who keep teaching the rituals of Bhakti even now are of the demoniac community. The Father says, “Bhaktimarg murdabad (down with Bhakti), gyaanmarg zindabad (may te path of knowledge live long).” But it does not fit in the intellect at all. They go on making the sanskars of Bhakti stronger. They go on becoming tamopradhan. The Father has explained the account as well, hasn’t He? So, only those who do maximum Bhakti, receive the fruits of Bhakti. When the 21 births are over, they follow the leftist path. The soul keeps on taking rebirth. When it takes rebirth, the name, form, place, time, everything changes. Well, the Krishna of the first birth is not present now at all. Yes, there are memorial pictures of those who had existed in the past. They ask, but their asking becomes meaningless as well. OK, remembrance, love and good morning to the sweet-sweet children. Om Shanti. (concluded)
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Note: The words in italics are Hindi words. Some words have been added in the brackets by the translator for better understanding of the translation.
Clarification of Murli dated 01.06.68
Part-III
...........Here many are asked, “Have you disobeyed in any manner?” Have you caused sorrow to anyone? When they are asked here nobody lifts his/her hand. It comes to my mind that in this gathering of 300-400 except 10-20 everyone should lift his/her hand that they disobey because they do not at all accept the farman (order) said through the mouth of the Father. Now the Father says, “Remember only Me.” This is the only main thing. They do not remember ; this is a mistake, isn’t it?
Fouth page of the dated first June, 1968. If they do not remember, they spoil their own post, but body consciousness is such that they do not state their mistake at all. Well, everyone commits mistakes. So, everyone should raise their hands. If they become the ones who don’t commit mistakes now, then they all will achieve the karmaateet (stage beyond the effect of actions) stage. If they do not remember the Father, it is a mistake, isn’t it? When you remember correctly, you also become completely pure.
The Father says, “O child! Now remember only Me.” If you do not remember, then certainly you must be causing sorrows to one or the other. You must be causing sorrows to yourself. Nobody has become perfect in 16 celestial degrees now. So, definitely some or the other mistake keeps happening. The main thing that the Father says, “consider yourself to be a soul and remember the Father; then your burden of sins that you have accumulated since many births will descend.
All these saints and sages have forgotten the Father who is the purifier of the sinful ones. They have forgotten; only then do they go to bathe in the waters. They think, “we will become pure.” They keep going to lakes as well as ponds. Even if the lake dries up, their pilgrimage center continues to remain the same. When does the shooting take place now? This shooting too is taking place in the Confluence-age world of Brahmins. They keep listening to their bath of knowledge. The main (water of) knowledge that has been given through God has entirely dried up. It is full of only mud and nothing else of body consciousness. Even then they keep bathing (in such muddy waters). They also add a little water and then rub the mud (on their body). They worship the stone as well. What do they do in the shooting period? They worship stones in the path of worship. Whom do they worship in the shooting period? They keep worshiping those with stone-like intellect. They place them on the forehead; they will play in their laps . For example, a buffalo likes to play in the mud. Going to such pilgrimage centers, their intellect becomes like that of a buffalo. This path of worship has been made only for those with buffalo-like intellect. They keep worshiping so many. They do not understand anything. They simply keep observing like a mad person (tawaai). Well everyone in the path of worship has a buffalo-like intellect. It will not be said in the path of knowledge that everyone has a buffalo-like intellect?
Some are such that they feel very hot, so they go and sit in cold water. They are filled with the heat of lust; that is why they need cold. The fire of lust keeps burning them. I make you sit on the pyre of knowledge and make you and your organs cool. After sitting on the pyre of lust, the sins of many births went on accumulating on your head. This Bhakti causes just sins and nothing else. The intellect becomes jammed due to following the concepts of blind faith. Your intellect becomes black like a buffalo. Buffaloes are black, are they not? So, the intellect becomes tamopradhan, black as well. They have then made Krishna black in the path of worship. God says, “They have become black after sitting on the pyre of lust. That is why they have shown Krishna to be black as well as Ram to be black; also Narayan has been shown to be black. Jagannath has been shown to be black as well. And they make even Shivling as black. Of when is it is a memorial? Also in the shooting period in the Confluence Age it happens similarly.
Human beings will become angry on being told all these things. You will say, “Krishna is black, tamopradhan, is the one to take 84 births. He is the one to come in the cycle of faith and doubt again and again. They will become angry as soon as they hear this from you. They say, “Do you call him black? He is omnipresent. How can he be black?” (Tell them), “Arey! You yourself have made this black picture. Nobody else is the one to make him black. Come, let me explain you the meaning of this subject.” This Krishna was first in the Golden Age. Then slowly, he came in the Iron Age. This is indeed the Iron Age. Iron is black, isn’t it? A soul that has climbed on the pyre of lust becomes black. When the soul is black, the body becomes black too. Some even say, “the outer form of a human being is an image of his mind.” So, also the body becomes black. When the soul is pure the body received will be pure as well. You have come here only to make your soul pure. You know that the soul will go on becoming powerful and this body will go on rotting. The powerful souls will do a lot of service even through the rotting body.
Now look, human beings sit and make human beings as gurus. One human being made another one as guru. Well, who is greater among both of them? Nanda was made the guru. So, is Nanda great or the Minister who flatters him greater? Poor fellows don’t know anything. All these are people with a black iron-like, buffalo-like intellect. This Bhakti makes them the ones with buffalo-like intellect. Then I come and make them fair. Krishna is called Shyaam-Sundar, isn’t he? They do say, but nobody knows. They should also know, shouldn’t they? Where does the shooting take place? In the very world of Brahmins there are such weak Brahmins who say, “Krishna alias Brahma is black in this birth. In the next birth, i.e. in the Golden Age, he will become fair Krishna. Its memorial has been built in the path of worship. Well, is Shyamsundar a praise of the same body or a praise of the bodies of two births? They do not understand anything that how Krishna enters in an appointed Chariot and plays a black role as well as later on, in the same birth, through the same body plays a fair part.
So, where did Krishna was a master of the Golden Age go? He has taken 84 rebirths, has he not? So, who is in the first number? The one who leaves Me and comes first of all from the Soul World. Only Krishna will be said to be the main one, won’t he? Which Krishna? Is it the Krishna who takes birth in the Golden Age, the first creation of the world or his creator Father? Who will be placed at the first number? It will certainly be said for the Confluence-age Krishna. They receive the name of Lakshmi and Narayan after 25-30 years. Even in the path of worship the name changes after marriage, does it not? So, look, how they become dark complexioned while taking rebirths? So, now the Father comes and transforms the buffalo-like intellect to a Godly intellect. People become black through the opinions of human beings. Now you receive Godly opinion.
Those who keep teaching the rituals of Bhakti even now are of the demoniac community. The Father says, “Bhaktimarg murdabad (down with Bhakti), gyaanmarg zindabad (may te path of knowledge live long).” But it does not fit in the intellect at all. They go on making the sanskars of Bhakti stronger. They go on becoming tamopradhan. The Father has explained the account as well, hasn’t He? So, only those who do maximum Bhakti, receive the fruits of Bhakti. When the 21 births are over, they follow the leftist path. The soul keeps on taking rebirth. When it takes rebirth, the name, form, place, time, everything changes. Well, the Krishna of the first birth is not present now at all. Yes, there are memorial pictures of those who had existed in the past. They ask, but their asking becomes meaningless as well. OK, remembrance, love and good morning to the sweet-sweet children. Om Shanti. (concluded)
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Note: The words in italics are Hindi words. Some words have been added in the brackets by the translator for better understanding of the translation.
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