BK financial issues as discussed in Murlis and Avyakt Vanis

[arjun]

Om Shanti.
Various issues related to BK finances and properties at the organization as well as individual level have been discussed under various threads and sometimes I have also quoted relevant Murli points, but it is all scattered and therefore I thought there should be a thread where different issues related to BK finances and properties as discussed in the Murlis and Avyakt Vanis or BK literature could be compiled. PBK financial/property issues could also be discussed besides quotations from Discussion CDs on such issues. And hence this new thread.

I had recently posted an important Murli quote in the BK section which was related to BK finances/properties, but I don't know if Members have noticed it or not. It is as follows:

116.
"शिवबाबा को तो मकान आदि बनाना नहीं है। वह तो दाता है। यह सब बच्चों के लिए है। शिवबाबा कहेंगे तुम बच्चे ही ट्रस्टी होकर सम्भालो।....बाकी मैं लेकर क्या करूँगा। तुम्हारे लिए ही सेन्टर खुलवाये हैं। यह हॉस्पिटल आर कॉलेज कम्बाइन्ड है। ... ऐसे नहीं यह मकान शिवबाबा वा ब्रह्मा बाबा का है। सब कुछ बच्चों के लिए है। तुम ब्राह्मण बच्चे हो, इसमें झगड़े आदि की कोई बात नहीं है। सबकी कम्बाइन्ड प्रापर्टी है। इतने सब ढ़ेर बच्चे हो, पार्टीशन कुछ हो न सके। गवर्मेन्ट भी कुछ कर न सके। यह ब्राह्मण बच्चों का है, सब मालिक हैं। सब बच्चे हैं। कोई गरीब, कोई साहूकार - यहाँ सब आकर रहते हैं। कोई की प्रापर्टी नहीं है। लाखों की अन्दाज़ में हो जायेंगे। सब कुछ तुम मीठे बच्चों के लिए है।" (ब्रह्माकुमारियों द्वारा प्रकाशित रिवाइज़्ड साकार मुरली दिनांक ११.१२.०७, पृ.३ एवं ४)

"ShivBaba ko toh makaan aadi banana nahee hai. Vah toh daataa hai. Yah sab bachchon ke liye hai. ShivBaba kahengey tum bachchey hee trustee hokar sambhaalo. ... Baaki mai lekar kya karoonga. Tumhaarey liye hee center khulvaaye hain. Yah hospital aur college combined hai ... Aisey nahee yah makaan ShivBaba va Brahma Baba ka hai. Sab kuchch bachchon ke liye hai. Tum Brahmin bachchey ho, ismay jhagdey aadi kee koi baat nahee hai. Sabkee combined property hai. Itney sab dher bachchey ho, partition kuchch ho na sakey. Government bhi kuchch kar na sakey. Yah Brahman bachchon ka hai, sab maalik hain. Sab bachchey hain. Koi gareeb, koi saahookaar – yahaan sab aakar rahtey hain. Koi kee property nahee hai. Laakhon kee andaaz may ho jaayengey. Sab kuchch tum meethey bachchon ke liye hai." (Brahmakumariyon dwara prakaashit revised Sakar Murli, dinaank 11.12.07, pg 3&4)

“ShivBaba does not have to build houses etc. He is a giver. All this is for the children. ShivBaba will say that you children take care as a trustee ... What will I do by taking it? The centers have been opened for you only. This hospital and college is combined ... It is not as if this building belongs to ShivBaba or Brahma Baba. Everything is for the children. You are Brahmin children; there is no question of dispute etc. in this. It is everybody’s combined property. You are numerous children; there cannot be any partition. Government too cannot do anything. This belongs to the Brahmin children. Everyone is an owner. All are children. Some are poor; some are rich – here everyone comes and lives. It is not a property of any one (person). They will grow into lakhs. Everything is for you sweet children." (Revised Sakar Murli dated 11.12.07, pg 3&4 published by BKs in Hindi, narrated by ShivBaba through Brahma Baba; translated by a PBK; the words within brackets in the English version have been added by the translator to clarify the meaning)

The above Murli quote gives a direction to the BKs much different from what we read in the Constitution of BKWSO as produced in another thread in this Section where it was mentioned how ordinary BKs are not even Members.

Regards,
On Godly Service,
Arjun

[arjun]

Quoted from PBK Section (points for churning)

Murli PT. No. 35 (COLLECTION OF FUNDS)

• "Baba kay bahut dekhey huay hain. Koi badaa sanyaasi aata hai toh bahut unkay followers hotay hain. Fund (chanda) ikattha kartey hain. Apni-apni taaqat anusaar funds nikaaltey hain. Yahaan baap toh aisey nahi kahengey- funds ikattha karo. Nahi, yahaan toh jo beej boyengey 21 janma uska fal paayengey." (BKs dwara prakaashit revised Sakar Murli taareekh 29.8.05, page 2)

• "Baba has seen many people. If a renowned sanyasi comes, he has many followers. They collect funds. They contribute funds as per their individual capacity. Here Father will not say – collect funds. No. Whoever sows the seeds here will get its fruits for 21 births.” (Revised Sakar Murli dated 29.8.05, page 2 published by BKs)

[arjun]

Quoted from BK Section:

158.
"तुमको बहुत नशा होना चाहिए। वह लोग तो मुफ्त अपना नाम निकालने के लिए माथा मार रहे हैं। खर्चा तो गवर्मेन्ट से मिल जाता है। सन्यासियों को तो बहुत पैसे मिलते हैं। अभी भी कहते हैं भारत का प्राचीन योग सिखलाने जाते हैं तो झट पैसे देंगे। बाबा को तो किसी के पैसे की दरकार नहीं। यह खुद सारी दुनिया को मदद करने वाला भोला भण्डारी है, मदद मिलती है बच्चों की। हिम्मते बच्चे मददे बाप। जब कोई बाहर से आते हैं तो हिरे हुए हैं, समझते हैं आश्रम है कुछ देवें। परन्तु तुमको बोलना है क्यों देते हो? ज्ञान तो कुछ सुना नहीं है। कुछ पता नहीं।" (ब्रह्माकुमारियों द्वारा प्रकाशित रिवाइज़्ड साकार मुरली दिनांक ०१.०१.०८, पृ.३)

"Tumko bahut nasha hona chaahiye. Vah log toh muft apnaa naam nikaalney ke liye matha maar rahey hain. Kharcha toh Government say mil jata hai. Sanyasiyon ko toh bahut paisey miltey hain. Abhi bhi kahtey hain Bhaarat ka praacheen Yoga sikhlaaney jaatey hain toh jhat paisey dengey. Baba ko toh kisi ke paisey kee darkaar nahee. Yah khud saari duniya ko madad karney vala bhola bhandari hai, madad miltee hai bachchon kee. Himmatey bachchey madadey Baap. Jab koi baahar say aatey hain toh hirey huay hain, samajhtey hain aashram hai kuchh devein. Parantu tumko bolnaa hai –kyon detey ho? Gyaan toh kuch sunaa nahee hai. Kuch pataa nahee." (Brahmakumariyon dwara prakaashit revised Sakar Murli, dinaank 01.01.08, pg 3)

“You should be very intoxicated. Those people are simply breaking their heads to earn fame. They get the amount from the Government. Sanyasis get a lot of money. Even now they say – if we go to teach the ancient Yoga of India, then they will immediately give money. Baba does not need anybody’s money. This one is a bhola bhandari (a title of Shiv) who Himself helps the entire world; He gets help from the children. When children show courage, the Father gives help. When someone comes from outside, they are habituated; they think that they should give something to the ashram (center). But you should tell – why do you give us? You have not listened to the knowledge. You don’t know anything.” (Revised Sakar Murli dated 01.01.08, pg 3 published by BKs in Hindi, narrated by ShivBaba through Brahma Baba; translated by a PBK; the words within brackets in the English version have been added by the translator to clarify the meaning)

[arjun]

Quoted from the BK Section:
205.
"Hamesha pehley toh chitra saamney dey dena chaahiye. Paisa toh tum kabhi nahee maangnaa. Tumhara kaam hai unko dena. Kuchch bhi unko dena hoga toh aapeyhee dengey. Koi daam poochey toh bolo Baba toh gareeb niwaaz hai. Gareebon ke liye free baanta jaata hai. Baaki saahookaar jitnaa dengey utnaa ham aur bhi chapaayengey. Paisa koi ham apney kaam may thodey hee lagaatey hain. Jo miltaa hai janta kee seva ke kaam may lagaaya jaataa hai. Saahookaar hee toh dharmashala aadi banaayengey. Yahaan gareeb bhi center banaa saktey hain, ismay kharcha kuchch bhi nahee hai. Samjho kahtey hain ki ham center kholoon athava yah Godly University kholoon. Aisee Godly University say 3-4 nay bhi achcha fal paa liya toh aho saubhaagya, un kholney vaalon ka. Ismay fraakhdil hona chaahiye. Baba dekho kitnaa fraakhdil hai. Kakhpan ley aur baadshaahi dey detey hain. Sapoot bachchey hee Baba kee service kar saktey hain." (Brahmakumariyon dwara prakaashit revised Sakar Murli, dinaank 09.02.08, pg 2)

“You should always first of all keep the picture in front of them. You should never ask for money. You job is to give them. If they have to give anything they will give on their own. If anyone asks about the price, tell them that Baba is a friend of the poor ones (garibniwaaz). It is distributed free of cost to the poor. As for the rich people, whatever (amount) they give, we will get many more (pictures/books) printed (with that amount). We don’t use the money for ourselves. Whatever we get is used for public service. It is the rich people only who build dharmashala (free of charge public lodging) etc. Here, even the poor people can set up centers. No cost is involved in it. Suppose someone says that he wishes to open a center or to open this Godly University. Even if 3-4 people get nice benefits from such a Godly University, then it is a matter of great fortune for those who opened it. One should be very noble-minded in this. Look Baba is so generous. He takes useless things and gives emperorship. It is only the worthy children who can do Baba’s service.” (Revised Sakar Murli dated 09.02.08, pg 2 published by BKs in Hindi, narrated by ShivBaba through Brahma Baba; translated by a PBK; the words within brackets in the English version have been added by the translator to clarify the meaning)

[arjun]

Quoted from the BK Section:
270.
“Try becoming the Father’s child for a week. If you like you may become (a child), otherwise you may go and become the child of lokik mother and Father. There is no fee. It is ShivBaba’s bhandara (storehouse). Neither are you made to purchase any book, etc. Just the Murli is sent (to you). It is the Father’s treasure; what fees would He take! Yes, if you like it, you may get literature printed for the poor people.” (Revised Sakar Murli dated 21.03.08, pg 3&4 published by BKs in Hindi, narrated by ShivBaba through Brahma Baba; translated by a PBK; the words within brackets in the English version have been added by the translator to clarify the meaning)

[jannisder]

What about picture stuff?

“You should always first of all keep the picture in front of them.

And then I read ...

“The Father says you should not remember any subtle or corporeal or incorporeal picture. You are given a target; people remember (God) by seeing pictures. Baba says – stop seeing pictures. This is a path of worship ... He says – Children, do not look at any picture."

[arjun]

[quote"Sister Jannisder"]What about picture stuff? “You should always first of all keep the picture in front of them. [/quote]
Om Shanti. Although it is off topic, I would like to clarify that in the above line Baba is talking about the five main pictures (Trimurti, World Cycle, World Tree, Ladder, Lakshmi-Narayan) which were used for exhibitions during the times of Brahma Baba to explain the knowledge to the newcomers.

And then I read ... “The Father says you should not remember any subtle or corporeal or incorporeal picture. You are given a target; people remember (God) by seeing pictures. Baba says – stop seeing pictures. This is a path of worship ... He says – Children, do not look at any picture What about picture stuff?

And in the above Murli ShivBaba says that you should not remember the pictures of individual persons, like Brahma Baba, Mama, Didis, Dadis, or other bodily beings.
Regards,
OGS,
Arjun