Accurate Yaad (Accurate Remembrance)

[bansy]

Can you sit without food for 10 hours during day time?

Yes. So what's the problem ? But that is no feat compared to plenty of people in the world who can do better by fasting.
But you don't have to worry about even 10 hours nowadys, BapDada only comes for a few hours. He has made it easy for you so you can sit without food for 3-4 hours. It's all the time he can afford.

So night time is best as I have explained above

Yes you're right it is the best for you because that seems to be the God that you like is the one that comes at night.

I simply prefer it when the Sun comes out. Even though sometimes cockroaches also come out in the day, but there are more in the night. Also one usually associates ghosts and dracula with night. Also thieves and moles.

But if anyone wants to see their God at night, that is fine.

He has praised the morning time in numerous Murlis.

Yes, I prefer to say Good Day to my Father (GOD Day), not Good Night (GOD Night) to Him. But God does even better, He says Good Morning to the children in the Murlis.

In addition, in the Murlis, often starts as "Today ..." , does it ever start "Tonight ..." ?

[paulkershaw]

IMO, BapDada only arrives at night so that everyone can have a late night and won't be able to get up for a/v and would then feel guilty about it. :| Good yukti eh?

[fluffy bunny]

Vampires and the undead have always preferred the night ... its memorialized in Bhakti.

[paulkershaw]

And Zombies too. Now we have the all-new BKWSZU party being formed who will accurately remember their lives, but only during their waking hours. Walking meditation anyone? Its a grave situation.

[arjun]

Yes, I prefer to say Good Day to my Father (GOD Day), not Good Night (GOD Night) to Him. But God does even better, He says Good Morning to the children in the Murlis. In addition, in the Murlis, often starts as "Today ..." , does it ever start "Tonight ..." ?

Quoted from the BK Section:
244.
“One should have a lot of love for such Father, who makes us the master of the world and purifies the sinful ones. As soon one wakes up in the morning, one should first of all say good morning to ShivBaba. The more you remember lovingly, the more you would feel happy. Children should ask themselves in their hearts as to what extent they remember the unlimited Father after waking up in the morning. People do Bhakti also in the morning time, don’t they? They do Bhakti with so much love. But Baba knows that many children do not remember (the Father) from their heart and soul, with love and affection. If they say good morning to Baba after waking up in the morning, if they keep thinking about the knowledge then the mercury of joy would rise. If they do not say good morning to the Father then how will they be relieved of the burden of sins? The main thing is remembrance. This enables you to earn a lot of income for your future. This income would prove useful in every Kalpa.” (Revised Sakar Murli dated 29.02.08, pg.1 published by BKs in Hindi, narrated by ShivBaba through Brahma Baba; translated by a PBK; the words within brackets in the English version have been added by the translator to clarify the meaning)

[bansy]

Yes thanks for the Murli point arjunbhai. When Father comes in the morning, you say good morning. As lokik life, my own children say good morning, and they say good morning to their neighbours and to their schoolteacher, whilst adults say good morning to their colleagues at arrival to the workplace (assume most people work during 9-6pm say). But what should be the greeting to BapDada arrival at 6pm ?

Even in Christian Bhakti, there is a hymn called "Morning has broken, like the first morning, blackbird has spoken" etc (I cannot recall the words) indicating the start of the day with God.

(PS : the greeting "Om Shanti" is often the only greeting used. I think this was discussed elsewhere in the forum, such as why does God need to say "Om Shanti" when we know He is a soul. Does He say it to keep reminding us that we impure-but want-to-become-pure souls do the same, and so it just drill exercise ?)

[mbbhat]

If BKs are happy with this arrangement with their only ONE Father who can come ONLY during this Confluence Age, then let them be. Maybe they just don't love your Father enough for him to stay longer. Maybe He is really elsewhere most of the time and just pops into BKWSU occasionally.

Yes, Bansy, thank you. This is the most important point . A "God" bound to the Drama?!! God's stay in Gulzar gets shorter with the years. And the Seniors have been afraid for years that God will stop coming soon. This "God" does not care for the rest of the 7 billions of human beings on earth. And after so much work he gets so tired that he needs a big rest during 4900 years in Paramdham!!!

Dear Souls,

A President is bound by the constitution. Similarly God is bound by drama.

If you recharge your cell phone battery for two hours, it will run for 2 to 3 days. If the battery needs contact of power supply always, then it indicates that that battery and power supply are WEAK. Efficient peoples’ work is efficient. Christ had come long back and is not here at present. Still Christianity is powerful. Similarly, God needs to work just for 100 years.

A President does not visit every individual citizen’s home. The other government servants or representatives take care the needs of the people. Similarly, God fulfils the needs and desires of 600 crore people through BKs. That is why BKs are giving Knowledge to the whole world.

In Sakar, Baba used to take Murli class daily. Avyakt Murlis are just 10 to 15 days in a year. Even the duration is decreasing. This is natural. Vast knowledge needed to become pure and for positive thinking are already spoken.

Senior Sisters or brothers may be worrying about Gulzar Dadi’s health. That is their part. Those who are weak, should fail like it has happened in beggary part (just 60 out of 400 survived). So who ever depends on corporeal things and weak in Yoga will get doubt and leave Yagya. Then Yagya may come into powerful hands! OR if by that time Godly message gets already spread to all the corners of the world, then there is no need of yayga (physical infrastructure) at all.

Real Power or Independence means no dependence on corporeal things or mediator. A teacher is always needed with a child. As it grows, need of teacher becomes less and less. So there is no wonder if the duration of Avyakt milan becomes less.

So, what is happening is normal phenomena.

[bansy]

Real Power or Independence means no dependence on corporeal things or mediator. A teacher is always needed with a child. As it grows, need of teacher becomes less and less. So there is no wonder if the duration of Avyakt milan becomes less.

The point is that 100 years out of 5000 is only a mere 2 percent. The difference between Christianity is that with Raja Yoga God is here to renew the world for 5000 years, whereas Christianity is only a mere 2500 years as according to Gyan. Even with this 2%, the resultant Hinduism is a mess as we see it today. If Christianity is to run for 5000 years it may or may not be in such a mess but such a question is not needed as it does not exist in Gyan.

I would like to use a full 2 percent of my life (of 84 births) and I would hope God can afford 2 percent of the cycle too, to be with me. I am and will always be a child of God until I don't need Him which is in the next birth. I will not need Him less and less because it means I love him less and less and will study less and less. God is not just a teacher, but also Father, Mother, Friend, Beloved, etc. If your Beloved is not with you 100% of the time during even this mere 2% of the cycle, is He having an affair with someone else or are you having an affair with someone else such as Maya or Ravan ?

It is said many times in the Murlis that no-one is pure at present, so if God is not around that means there is no chance for any soul to become pure :shock: God has come to do his task, are we expected to do the task. Have you not also heard that Ravan and Maya is also becoming more powerful ?

If God needs to makes excuses such as "bound by drama" then I suppose all his BK children can continue to make the same careless mistakes and then accord it to "bound by drama".

Real power cannot exist when Maya or Ravan exists. That is temporary power.

So, what is happening is normal phenomena.

Is this study a normal study, an ordinary study ? Or is it an elevated one ? I agree, what we see happening in the BKWSU is normal.

[fluffy bunny]

Christ had come long back and is not here at present.

Actually, the Knowledge states that both the Jesus and the Christ soul IS present here today and sustaining their religion and will lead "their" souls. To be honest, I often notice so many such errors in your posts, or general constructions based on fallacious, but I can be bothered picking you up on them.

If you make a conceptual equation; a + b + c - d = xyz ... all the parts have to add up. if there is an error at the beginning of the equation, you can through the rest away.

I find there is a tendency within the BKs (and other such religions) to make these equations, all leading to the same bottomline, which might work when spoken like salesman's patter, but not when written because one can sit and analyse each part. Generally, I am sorry to say, that is all it is ... salesman's patter selling the housewives another product.

See my, and shivsensa's, recent questions to sachkand elsewhere about the mysterious introduction of Shiva post-1950. There was no mention before hand ... this point alone sinks the credibility of the leadership and their revised Murlis.

[mbbhat]

[I would like to use a full 2 percent of my life (of 84 births) and I would hope God can afford 2 percent of The Cycle too, to be with me. I am and will always be a child of God until I don't need Him which is in the next birth. I will not need Him less and less because it means I love him less and less and will study less and less. God is not just a teacher, but also Father, Mother, Friend, Beloved, etc. If your Beloved is not with you 100% of the time during even this mere 2% of The Cycle, is He having an affair with someone else or are you having an affair with someone else such as Maya or Ravan ? 2) It is said many times in the Murlis that no-one is pure at present, so if God is not around that means there is no chance for any soul to become pure :shock: .

Dear bansy soul,

If you love God so much, then why cannot you pray God with full pure, innocent heart? In love there is no fear, doubt, accusing.

God is DETACHED in drama. Baba sometimes says I give you happiness, sometimes says, 'I do not give you happiness. I just show you the path to happiness'. Please understand that to the extent you love God, you recieve property from God. *Most important thing is God is above birth and death and we all come in birth and deaths. So, there is the huge difference here.

You may wish to be with God always. Then please show it in actions. You should be ready to sacrifice vices. Love to God means ability to forget body, because God is bodyless. Can you forget Body continuously for at least 5 minutes (not in sleep).

God gives such a property that there is no need of him for the next 5000 (at least 2500 ) years. If God remains always with us, then Drama will not run. If God remains with us always, then Baba cannot make us Kings(independent). Baba teaches Raja Yoga. This is why I had said initially without knowing knowledge of Drama one cannot understand God fully. But Baba says remember me always. But why don't we remember him ALWAYS (that too when you say you need god 100%). Please try to love God in all relations at least for the present birth.

*2) Do not take literal meaning. Take positively. I become very happy to hear this. I get confidence that there is still chance to become in rosary (within 108). Why do you think of other souls. *Another thing is this was said before 1969. *Baba has announced just two numbers, Mama and Baba. If all the other numbers are anounced, then new comers will feel disinterest in study. Just keep yourself in Baba's place and think what would you do when you are given to serve 7 billion souls, and bound by drama. *When some disaster occurs, Prime Ministers do their best. They cannot save each end every one. Similarly, Baba cannot change all human beings into deities. But if one wishes to sacrifice vices, definitely the gate is always OPEN.

DEAR Ex- l soul,

Hindu religion is mess. I had already explained it. Because it is the oldest religion. But the beauty is it can mix with any religion. Can Christians mix with Muslims or Muslims with Christians? Christ has said, "Love your neighbour also like you love yourself". But which Christian follows this? If this is discussed, it will again become a lengthy one.

Of course, there will be some errors in my posts. My English is not very good. So I cannot put what is in my mind exactly into words. *Sometimes, it is not possible to give answer shortly. So, I will have to reduce or cut some matters. Sometimes I give many examples to explain so that the reader can be satisfied by one or the other. You can select the one which is suitable. In this, just the example of battery was enough.

There is no need of example of Christ. Even while writing I was conscious about that (according to knowledge, Christ remains till end). But many agyaanis will be visiting the forum. So, for them it could be helpful. Also sometimes I do not (cannot) reply because of time constraint and some things are waste here. If one is really positive minded, he can be benefit himself by other points.

[bansy]

If you love God so much, then why cannot you pray God with full pure, innocent heart?

mbbhat,

Is this a question you should ask yourself ?

Maybe you simply do not realise that there are many people who are really simply happy with their lives and also with God. And not to any of the "definitions" you lecture on about about God. You are happy with being a "BK" but not attending the BK centre but having Murlis, you are happy with the presence of BapDada for only a few times a year and a few hours in the evening during those few days. Yet you are not a BK.

There is nothing wrong with that. I wish you well in your own path.

[mbbhat]

If you love God so much, then why cannot you pray God with full pure, innocent heart?

Is this a question you should ask yourself ?

Dear bansy soul,

I ask this question to myself. I love myself maximum and hate myself maximum. Because I feel myself to be lucky and also feel that I have done sins for 63 births. So I am the cause for all my problems.

I am not forcing or commenting you. This is just a reply to your quote and not a reply to you. It is reply to all those who see it. I write everything in actor conscious at least to the extent of 70%. Of course, sometimes I also get emotions since I am incomplete.

Thanks for the suggestions.