Accurate Yaad (Accurate Remembrance)

[tom]

mbbhat ,

I am amazed and find it now very entertaining to read your posts and answers, when it comes to face your own writings which are published just in the previous page here, to see how you find quickly hanky-panky answers and shift.

Purity does not need any proof. It is shining from the dharna of that person.I am sure many brothers in this forum including myself have been practicing celibacy decades long naturally without bragging arrogantly and calling out like you, and not needing to invite people to make a show like in a circus. I found your proposal for us to find you a girl with all specifications of faith you described and to test your purity, very funny and disgusting at the same time.You are becoming from master teacher which you desired to be, the entertaining poster of this forum.

I don't want to miss your posts any more. Reading your salmons and answers i am laughing now whole day. :D

[mbbhat]

I don't want to miss your posts any more. Reading your salmons and answers i am laughing now whole day. :D

Good that you are happy to read my posts. Hope you will maintain the same state in future. Giving happiness is also a service. Than You for blessing me with your good wishes, dear Tom Soul.

Om Shanti. Please read what your, in fact our 'husband' has said in his 'love letter' (Murli) addressed to us 'wives':

Dear Arjun, any soul is bride and Shiva is bridegroom. Brahma is the mediator. We have to marry (love, remember) Shiva and NOT Brahma. Is it OK?

“Many children get confused on seeing the ordinary form; they start speaking in an opposite way. Maya slaps even the nice children. They think – the incorporeal one is everything. That is alright, isn’t it? Had the incorporeal one not been there, how could I or you have existed? But the incorporeal one certainly requires a Chariot, doesn’t He? What can He do without a Chariot? What can ShivBaba do? Only when He comes in a Chariot that you can meet Him. (It is said that) “I shall listen only to you, I shall sit only with you.” So, the Chariot is certainly required, isn’t it? OK, remember the incorporeal without the corporeal and show. Will you get knowledge through inspiration? Then why did you come to me in the first place? This Baba also says that the inheritance has to be obtained from ShivBaba. ShivBaba says I sit in this ordinary body and teach. Knowledge is certainly required, isn’t it? The brains of very nice children get twisted. No sooner than they open two-four centers they become egotistic. Then they keep speaking in an opposite way. Then sometimes it even comes to their intellect that whatever they spoke was not proper. Then they repent. Baba says how will I explain without the corporeal (medium)? There is no question of inspiration in this at all.” (Revised Sakar Murli dated 22.09.07, pg 2&3 published by BKs in Hindi and translated by a PBK)

I know this Murli point. It is almost clear that this point was directed to those children who were not paying any respect to BrahmaBaba. Some children(BKs) were not paying respect and were taking law into their hands. It is also written in your quote, " No sooner than they open two-four centers they become egotistic".

• * To run an institution, there is need of some Sakar head. ShivBaba is invisible and not present in Brahma's body always. (If special respect is not given to BB), BKs may ignore Brahma and each and everybody will act according to their own wish. If there is no teacher in a class, what may be the condition of the student? So Baba directs to GIVE RESPECT TO BRAHMA, but ... LOVE JUST Shiva (POINT). Just see below.
  
  * "This baba is also a student like you. He is just your brother". Baba says this in Murli not to get attached even to Brahma. But ome egoistic children may misuse/misunderstand and give dis-respect Brahma or not listen to Brahma and then there will not be Ekamath (one direction) in Yagya. So, Baba says the contradicting point (as mentioned by your quote) to neutralise it.
  
  * In most of the Murlis, Baba says remember ONE Father. Baba says, do not remember any body or bodily relations.

Can you explain these?

[arjun]

In most of the Murlis, Baba says remember ONE Father. Baba says, do not remember any body or bodily relations. Can you explain these?

For 2500 years all the souls had been remembering God as a point of light or as an idol. Did the world become a better place to live?

(According to BK/PBK view) the world gets transformed only when the Supreme Soul Himself comes in a corporeal form in the Confluence Age. The ONE Father gets revealed only when He comes in the corporeal form. Otherwise how can you distinguish between all the point-like souls in the incorporeal world that this particular point is the incorporeal God Father Shiva?

Only after coming in a corporeal form does He say that forget all other bodily beings and remember me alone.

[global]

mhbhat,

Thanks for your replies.

As Tom I also received a good laugh. What would you prove moving in with a married couple?

Not married and giving advice to married couples hmmmmmmm. Very interesting.

So I go out today punch an old lady in the face, steal her purse, pour poison chemicals in the local water supply, watch child pornography while eating a couple of burgers and I am better than someone having sex with ther wife?

If your both male and female do you walk around in a dress?

Mhbhat nooffence but your living in a very bizarre world. Your reality is from from reality at least here in North America that is.

[fluffy bunny]

Its a bit off topic but, just out of interest mbbhat ... you offered to allow us to test you for lust and body-consciousness by setting you with a woman, any woman, even young naked ones ... or married. I had any idea that I might be willing to try but only if you agree to me having the film rights.

What do you say if test you in a relationship with another homosexual, preferably a nice, muscly, tanned, naturalist guy?

Do we register the same "virag" (disinterest ... check spelling)?

[mbbhat]

Dear Souls,

I have got message from ADMIN to be brief. So I cannot write more. "jo ishaare se samajhtaa hai- vah devataa hai". So I do not think to explain more about this. Thanks for all for those who have spend time with me. Wish you all the best.

Dear ADMIN,

I am not complaining You. As an admin, you have done your work properly. I respect you as an actor in this drama. Drama has made you admin of this forum during the present time (my faith). Salutations to you, sir!

Otherwise how can you distinguish between all the point-like souls in the incorporeal world that this particular point is the incorporeal God Father Shiva?

Now, will you please tell me how can you distinguish the three points (Virendra Dev Dixit's soul, Brahma's soul and Shiva) in the body of Virendra Dev Dixit?

Not married and giving advice to married couples hmmmmmmm. Very interesting.

That is the greatness. You see, ShivBaba does not come in birth and death. But advices (bestoves) full knowledge of 84 births.

[global]

mbhat,

This is you saying such things. I do not know that ShivBaba is saying these things because according to you Dada Lekrahj was and he has passed away. So it is now like the Christians, or any other religion, who can twist and change to suit their agenda.

Are you saying you are now ShivBaba?

To say someone is ShivBaba is that not saying this is God?

[paulkershaw]

What do you say if test you in a relationship with another homosexual, preferably a nice, muscly, tanned, naturalist guy?

ex-l stop it, thats my line of questioning k? ;)

[mbbhat]

Dear ex-l and paulkershaw souls,

Testing can be with anybody. I can stand nude in front of anybody without getting influenced. I did not mean physical contact. It is definitely a sin. Today, I have reached to this state. I am still a purushaarthi. This has already given me power and satisfaction.

To say more, I have the confidence of touching anybody like one touches a child or just non-living physical objects. You can make any comments but I may stop here in this topic as already mentioned the reasons.

For 2500 years all the souls had been remembering God as a point of light or as an idol. Did the world become a better place to live? Only after coming in a corporeal form does He say that forget all other bodily beings and remember me alone.

Dear Arjun Soul,

1) For 2500 years NOBODY HAS remembered God as POINT. It was in linga form, boundless light form, and different deities, idol form.
2) You have not answered to the point. You have just repeated the (last) sentence. What do you mean by, "forget body and all bodily relations and remember Me alone?"

To say someone is ShivBaba is that not saying this is God?

Dear Global,

What are you saying? I am saying that I am child of ShivBaba as any Bk. I do not know whether you have understood what I meant?

[fluffy bunny]

Testing can be with anybody. I can stand nude in front of anybody without getting influenced.

mbbhat,

can you send or upload a picture for us first please? I am not sure who might put of who first. I mean, we don't want the sister running out screaming ...

So, what about a warm, darkened room with noises going on ... heavy breathing, sexual noises? Do you think that would test your hardened resolve?

Keeping on the topic of 'Accurate Yaad (Accurate Remembrance)' ... is it theoretically possible to be soul-conscious or remember Shiva whilst being aroused or making love? I was just considering all the recent BK marriages (defections to the Kingdom of Vice) and wondered what effect it might have on their consciousness?

• Do you think that might be able to get it up to beginning with but then have it drop off later?

[mbbhat]

Dear Ex-1 soul,
In fact, I had tried to put my picture in the small square available near view blog sign (situated in the right side of individual's quote) in the beginning. But I failed. I am not good in Computers. If you explain, I will put it. You can explain either here or by PM.[Not to waste space here].

[mbbhat]

warm, darkened room with noises going on ... heavy breathing, ?

Dear ex-l,

* It may not be possible to make you realize fully. You may realize this later (hope so).
* A thief will doubt another person also as thief.
* A liar will not get faith even in a person who follows truth.

*Even if non-veg food is kept in front of a vegetarian person, it will not tempt him.

[john]

But please also allow me to remind mbbhat, that for the first 20 years Lekhraj Kirpalani and the early Brahma Kumaris did think and call himself Prajapati God Brahma, the Gita Inventor ... and there was no mention of Shiva until after 1950 according to the publish documents we have here. Your response please

The documents may say like that. But- think on the following incidents and possibilities.

It was 20 years of belief not five minutes and, surely, if these were official documents they would have been approved by Godfather Brahma at the time?

All I read from you is a flimsy list of excuses from someone blinded by the senior BKs.

Why don't you ask someone within the BKSWU who was around at the time, rather than guessing?

[fluffy bunny]

* A thief will doubt another person also as thief ...

Its funny how by your same logic, it does not take an idiot to spot an idiot ...

My friend, veiled insults are worse than honest ones ... and you are headed off topic - which is the subject of Accurate Yaad (Accurate Remembrance). From my point of view, I remember that you told us you do not even follow full Maryadas, go to class etc. So, neither a BK nor an ex-BK ... and yet such a self-appointed guru ... who exactly do you think you are?

Why don't you ask someone within the BKSWU who was around at the time, rather than guessing?

... and expect us to believe such logically fallacious Proofs™ ?

[mbbhat]

Dear ex-l soul,

*Please excuse me for writing like this. My aim is not to hurt you. Then how to explain you?

*Somebody considered me as BK splinter group, somebody as computer, somebody perhaps the worst soul in this world. I have already said about me that I am a Bk. Now- if you ask me who you are - what should I say?

*It is of no use to contact senior BKs for documents. I have explained even that also clearly. Perhaps all are busy in their own things or caught in drama (then what should I say?).

*Are you not interested in my photo now?

Dear John Soul,

I have written my views very clearly. In case, if anything new comes in my mind, I will write in brief.