madhuban

[trinity]

When can I go to the mountain?

"I have been bl***g, m********g, and look at p***o but never touched a woman ( dream of it though). Did some coke ..."

Have close contact with a woman, a former student ... I am Raja Yoga teacher. B**w before class.

Am I still welcome???

[bro neo]

We can make our own evil little forest of honey, trin :wink:.

[alladin]

No worries!! These days, anything goes. No need to "prepare" for Madhuban. Old style BKs do not even want to talk about the way things are going on now. It is too embarassing, disappointing, looking at the expansion, the commercialization, the double standards.

Remember that from a tourist point of view, Mount Abu is really not that great. So, I suggest to skip it. The latest news is that people feel Dadi Kumarka's spirit every where, . Yes! Like everywhere are all the pictures of her. So, more than an ashram, it has become a pilgrimage place - for indians and those who like Bhakti - and a place for "service meetings" of the big heads.

Sounds fantastic, doesn't it?

[bkdimok]

Have close contact with a woman, a former student ... I am Raja Yoga teacher. B**w before class ... Am I still welcome???

Yes, you are. Kaliyuga is your birthplace. So welcome to Kaliyuga. Your play last not more than 1250 years.

Shiv through Shankar

[fluffy bunny]

Am I still welcome???

Obviously you are not talking about yourself ... are we talking about a specifically example we know here, or in theory?

[trinity]

In theory ...

[trinity]

I was told, i can not go to meet baba ... I need a letter from my teacher (?)

What are the real rules for being "allowed" to madhuban? Is it really a big deal to get there to "meet" baba or is my teacher wrong?

Tell me please !!!

[fluffy bunny]

Are you rich, a VIP, or an ordinary Shudra? (Different rules apply).

If you are an ordinary Shudra, yes, your local center-in-charge is correct. She knows much better than you God's Will, she is directly connected to God whereas you are not, and her decision over your relationship with God is final.

Is that clear enough?

In the old days, you could just turn up and sneak in ... I hear that they have security men and backstage passes now. Can anyone else confirm?

[trinity]

i did the course and advanced course. What am i??

[fluffy bunny]

Well, a potential candidate ... but unless you are following principles, you are not a BK. You must be a "contact soul" over which they will speculate if you are a BK or not. Not if you tell them you know of this site ... probably!

In the old days (in theory), you had to follow principles for at least 6 months. One year if you "made a mistake". You also had to fill in a "declaration of faith" form, sign it and hand it to a Senior Sister, e.g. Krishna is not the God of the Gita etc!?!

That means 4 a.m. and 6.30 a.m. ... but I hear even teachers do not do that these days.

[bro neo]

Here's one way of looking at it. If the BKs think they can use you for money, or because you have some kind of social influence or power, they'll do what ever it takes to give you what ever you want, so they can get what they want (VIP service all the way and you can do what ever you want).

If the only use you are to them is as a worker bee, then you cannot eat pungent foods (cause it makes you smell bad), cannot have sex (cause shudras shouldn't mate and have fun), cannot be late for class and have to get up for Yoga, and then 'karma' Yoga every morning at 3:30am (so the S.S. can get they're freshly baked pasteries and galub jamuns fresh and when they want them ...

[proy]

In the old days, you could just turn up and sneak in ... I hear that they have security men and backstage passes now. Can anyone else confirm?

True. I have seen three ways of going.

• 1. Money.
  2. Lies.
  3. Be a pukka BK.

If I were you though, I would not bother. The tea is horrible