Asking ShivBaba for approval

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Asking ShivBaba for approval

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In the thread Q&A with Baba:
[quote=""Jim"]Is there benefit in ShivBaba answering questions to those who don't recognise him? - and have therefore not done bhatti. Is it that Baba has so much spare time to answer questions from those who haven't studied what has already been explained?[/quote]
I find this a rather confusing question for a PBK to be asking ShivBaba. Just needs some clarification. If Baba is the World Father, then there are no doubts in his children of what He can do or not do.

If PBKs are unable to answer questions themselves, then yes, ask and also find out. All are Godly students in His eyes. One must have the embodiment of knowledge to the same extent as you have loving feelings to whoever comes in front of you. God's doors are always open, and maybe He hasn't done enough for others to let others to recognise Him. Thus this is the Confluence Age.
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Post by arjun »

Om Shanti.

Wherever Baba goes in India to narrate Murlis, it is generally expected that only PBKs would be present in the gathering. But many a times it has happened that there were more outsiders (like relatives/friends of PBKs) in the gathering. And sensing the situation, Baba would start giving a mix of basic and advance knowledge without giving the clarification of Sakar Murlis/Avyakt Vanis, as He generally does. This is to ensure that those in the gathering, who have not been initiated into advance knowledge should not go back empty handed.

And sometimes it has happed that Baba has given the basic course to some non-PBK present in the house of the PBK which He was visiting. I think VCD 315/316 is one such VCD where Baba explained the basic knowledge to the yugal (spouse) of a PBK mother at Vijaywada located in South India.

So, I think it would not be entirely correct on our part to presume that ShivBaba would give knowledge only to those who have undergone the Advance Course or bhatti.
With regards,
OGS,
Arjun
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Post by clay »

Om Shanti Bansy bhen,

You usually write very clearly, but could you explain the following please?
One must have the embodiment of knowledge to the same extent as you have loving feelings to whoever comes in front of you. God's doors are always open, and maybe He hasn't done enough for others to let others to recognise Him. Thus this is the Confluence Age.
Certainly we all strive for knowledge and loving feelings in our relationships and communication ... but the rest of the paragraph I do not understand.

Good Wishes, Clay
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Dear all and Clay bhen,

I have been busy with lokik stuffs hence the delay in response. It's an open statement and thus an open reply. No one really is yet nearer the truth as far from it. Many claims though.

Although God has given us much to do, the children have not been able to understand Him fully. It does not mean we are not trying, or He is not (does He need to). He is above it all, unlimited. Why has it been so hard for us (human souls) to fully understand it all ? There have been many of his children who have come (Abraham, Christ, etc) but whilst their objectives may slightly differ, the world seemingly still continues to degrade. Even though equipped with thousands of years of spiritual or religious knowledge, including a few decades of Raja Yoga.

Is it really beyond us limited (though trying to be unlimited) souls ? Is God's final weapon actually nature and not us human souls, as ultimately that is what will eventually renew the world. If so, then it is not just about how much you study and know or who or where God is now, but simply how pure and loving your soul is at time of destruction which will take you to the next age/phase and that can happen any time. Do you have to be a BK or PBK at the time of destruction to be loving and pure?

Yes, Aimee & Andrey, the one second is all it takes. "Time" is a strange subject.

Regards, Bansy
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