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- 27 Sep 2008
- Forum: For Ex-BKs & Common Room
- Topic: Re: BKWSU for beginners
- Replies: 69
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Re: BKWSU for beginners
Can you please quote the sentences which you have in mind where John Walliss uses 'theodicy', so we can see how he uses it? On second thoughts, don't bother. I have checked myself and I can see that he clearly loves the word 'theodicy', and uses it very broadly and in ways outside your own two defi...
- 25 Sep 2008
- Forum: For Ex-BKs & Common Room
- Topic: Raja Yoga (What is it?)
- Replies: 31
- Views: 24523
Re: Raja Yoga (What is it?)
There is no where specifically that Om Mandli is described as Advaitist. I based that on reading the old documents from between 1937 and 1949 with all the talk of faith in Brahm as the Divine Light and 'Aham Braham Asmi'. There being no personal "God" ... apart from Lekhraj Kirpalani. I s...
- 25 Sep 2008
- Forum: For Ex-BKs & Common Room
- Topic: Prajapati to Prajapita - Name changed for what?
- Replies: 23
- Views: 20814
Re: Prajapati to Prajapita - Name changed for what?
Prajapati (Sanskrit), from praja that which is brought forth (from pra forth) + pati lord. Show me where this other meaning exists. But what we read of Lekhraj Kirpalani was that his name was not Prajapita until after 1950 something and there is no mention of Shiva until then either before then, he...
- 25 Sep 2008
- Forum: For Ex-BKs & Common Room
- Topic: BKWSU timeline
- Replies: 14
- Views: 8740
Re: BKWSU timeline
When did DL start calling himself by a different name? Also these are not events but I would suggest including the years for the oldest surviving BK documents (with links if online) in English (1943?) and Hindi (?). Or maybe a separate timeline for dateable documents including posters etc to show th...
- 25 Sep 2008
- Forum: For Ex-BKs & Common Room
- Topic: Re: BKWSU for beginners
- Replies: 69
- Views: 43002
Re: BKWSU for beginners
I used the word theodicy lightly as it had been used in Dr John Walliss's book on the Brahma Kumaris, "The Brahma Kumaris as a Reflexive Tradition". I am not saying of course that 'theodicy' cannot be used re BK, I am only talking about your particular sentence. Can you please quote the s...
- 24 Sep 2008
- Forum: For Ex-BKs & Common Room
- Topic: BKWSU timeline
- Replies: 14
- Views: 8740
Re: BKWSU timeline
with respect, is not that a time line for the PBKs? Perhaps I should have said 'BK family' rather than the narrower 'BKWSU'. Anyway even if it was strictly BKWSU, I would say that the emergence of a second Chariot is hugely significant, but no doubt will not be found in the 'official' BKWSU history...
- 24 Sep 2008
- Forum: For Ex-BKs & Common Room
- Topic: Re: BKWSU for beginners
- Replies: 69
- Views: 43002
Re: BKWSU for beginners
I am not 100% sure of which but I suspect it could be either? I take your point but bearing in mind the important of The Knowledge™ ... I chose it because; Theodicy came to be synonymous with 'natural theology', that is, the department of metaphysics which presents the positive proofs for the exist...
- 24 Sep 2008
- Forum: For Ex-BKs & Common Room
- Topic: Prajapati to Prajapita - Name changed for what?
- Replies: 23
- Views: 20814
Re: Prajapati to Prajapita - Name changed for what?
So Prajapita Brahma is both CORPOREAL Father and mother of humanity. PRAJA = Soul with body, hence the word corporeal. OK, so does Praja-pita only refer to this soul while he is incarnated on earth as Dada Lekhraj and his previous incarnations? I think that BKs believe that since 1969 this soul has...
- 24 Sep 2008
- Forum: For Ex-BKs & Common Room
- Topic: Prajapati to Prajapita - Name changed for what?
- Replies: 23
- Views: 20814
Re: Prajapati to Prajapita - Name changed for what?
But how are the husband / Father connected to the word Brahma (is it for example 'Father of Brahma', 'Father and Brahma' etc) and what does 'Brahma' mean?mbbhat wrote:Pati = husband, owner (maalik), e.g.: karod_pati = crore_pati = owner of karod. Pita = just Father
- 24 Sep 2008
- Forum: For Ex-BKs & Common Room
- Topic: Raja Yoga (What is it?)
- Replies: 31
- Views: 24523
Re: Raja Yoga (What is it?)
I could speak Hindi my previous life but now I've forgotten most of it. Anyway I am looking at the 1943 one in English. Amazing find :shock:. Just remind me the first Murli was when?ex-l wrote:If you read Hindi, perhaps you could tell us ... 1942 Preordained War Hindi.
- 23 Sep 2008
- Forum: For Ex-BKs & Common Room
- Topic: Prajapati to Prajapita - Name changed for what?
- Replies: 23
- Views: 20814
Re: Prajapati to Prajapita - Name changed for what?
What do 'Praja-pati Brahma' and 'Praja-pita Brahma' mean anyway?faisu wrote:Why/when/how did the ‘divine’ Father changed his name from 'Prajapati Brahma' to 'Prajapita Brahma'? One name is not equivalent another, definitely (Pati = Husband, Pita = Father).
- 23 Sep 2008
- Forum: For Ex-BKs & Common Room
- Topic: Raja Yoga (What is it?)
- Replies: 31
- Views: 24523
Re: Raja Yoga (What is it?)
There is no where specifically that Om Mandli is described as Advaitist. I based that on reading the old documents from between 1937 and 1949 with all the talk of faith in Brahm as the Divine Light and 'Aham Braham Asmi'. ' Are these online? There being no personal "God" ... apart from Le...
- 23 Sep 2008
- Forum: For Ex-BKs & Common Room
- Topic: Re: BKWSU for beginners
- Replies: 69
- Views: 43002
Re: BKWSU for beginners
From Monism to Dualism and God Shiva For the first 20 years, the Brahma Kumaris were a monist tradition in the form of orthodox Advaita schools believing that there was only one ultimate substance or principle called the Brahm or Braham. They practised faith in "Aham Brahm Asmi", literall...
- 19 Sep 2008
- Forum: For Ex-BKs & Common Room
- Topic: Raja Yoga (What is it?)
- Replies: 31
- Views: 24523
Re: Raja Yoga (What is it?)
Jnana Yoga, or gyana Yoga, is the Yoga not of knowledge in the intellectual sense but The Knowledge of Brahman and Atman. It is part of non-dualistic or advaita Vedanta as the early Om Mandli was, monists in that they affirm the sole reality of Brahman. I don't agree that jnana Yoga necessarily req...
- 14 Sep 2008
- Forum: For Ex-BKs & Common Room
- Topic: Raja Yoga (What is it?)
- Replies: 31
- Views: 24523
Re: Raja Yoga (What is it?)
Raja Yoga is Jnana Yoga, because it is based on spiritual knowledge. Raja Yoga is Bhakti Yoga, because true love towards God is necessary. [one meaning of Bhakti= love]. But since there are no karma-kanda of lowkik Bhakti, Raja Yoga is called as jnana maarga and hence considered separate than Bhakt...