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by john
07 Feb 2009
Forum: For Ex-BKs & Common Room
Topic: Picture Of Shiva Baba
Replies: 103
Views: 78345

Re: Picture Of Shiva Baba

For example you say elsewhere that In the Murli it is said that this is the family path, we have to stay pure whilst in the family so it is right to marry, this is one interpretation, and this is your interpretation, another is that this is unlimited spiritual family where there is spiritual mother...
by john
06 Feb 2009
Forum: Questioning, Discussing & Debating
Topic: Questions for PBKs
Replies: 1577
Views: 914917

Re: Questions for PBKs

So then how come she will be qualified for 15.75 degrees? I started a thread way back, asking 'if' the senior sisters are doing so wrong how come they will get a high position. Of course I only received nonsense replies and the thread went on and on in gibberish directions. I find instead of going ...
by john
06 Feb 2009
Forum: For BKs - to discuss BK experiences
Topic: Original picture of Tree with "The 8"
Replies: 78
Views: 93148

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| http://www.brahmakumaris.info/bb/userpix/5_smallgandhi_1.jpg Non-Cooperation Tree and Mahatma Gandhi[/center] Similar? What I think it is interesting is, taken out of the Indian context as we were given it, all this BK stuff is weird or wonderful. Put back into the Indian experience its become qu...
by john
06 Feb 2009
Forum: For Ex-BKs & Common Room
Topic: Picture Of Shiva Baba
Replies: 103
Views: 78345

Re: Picture Of Shiva Baba

I don't agree. It is said that this knowledge can be nectar or poison, can give happiness or sorrow depending on the way we use it. What makes you think you are not using Gyan poisonously? Some might say you are, yet to you everything you say is right, even when proved wrong, might I add :D Have yo...
by john
02 Feb 2009
Forum: Questioning, Discussing & Debating
Topic: Shankar's Part ?
Replies: 297
Views: 169066

Shankar's Part ?

There, Bharat itself is the pilgrimage place. It is not that Shiv Baba exists there. Shiv Baba is here now. All His praise is of this time. This is Shiv Baba's birthplace, so it is also the birthplace of Brahma. It cannot be called the birthplace of Shankar. There is no need for him to come here. H...
by john
02 Feb 2009
Forum: For Ex-BKs & Common Room
Topic: Brahma not complete until the end.
Replies: 9
Views: 6687

Brahma not complete until the end.

Sakar Murli 2008/11/06 Revised Mama and Baba will go and the very special children will also go in advance. Each one has to play his part. What is there to worry about? We observe the playas detached observers. Your stage should always remain cheerful. Even Baba has thoughts of concern. The law says...
by john
29 Jan 2009
Forum: For PBKs - supporting 'Advanced Knowledge'
Topic: 82nd 83rd 84th birth of Brahma Baba?
Replies: 28
Views: 17321

Re: 82nd 83rd 84th birth of Brahma Baba?

In the picture of The Tree on the top of The Tree it is Shankar who is shown doing tapasya and all souls are going to Paramdham. Brahma is shown doing tapasya down below. Actually it is Brahma standing at the top of the tree. Shankar is sitting above the globe, which is above Brahma. Sakar Murli 20...
by john
29 Jan 2009
Forum: For Ex-BKs & Common Room
Topic: Everything you need to know is in the Sakar Murlis. Or is it
Replies: 13
Views: 7969

Re: Everything you need to know is in the Sakar Murlis. Or is it

Dear Souls, I am not against your views. See the following Murli point. SM 17-12-72(1):- Gyan to hai hi ek second ka= Knowledge is of one second. Will anybody explain why knowledge is just of a second? I think it could mean one who accepts Gyan gets a place in Heaven in one second. There are Murli ...
by john
28 Jan 2009
Forum: For PBKs - supporting 'Advanced Knowledge'
Topic: 82nd 83rd 84th birth of Brahma Baba?
Replies: 28
Views: 17321

Re: 82nd 83rd 84th birth of Brahma Baba?

Sakar Murli 2009/01/26 Revised
Look, this one is standing at the very top of the tree. It has now reached the state of total decay. The Father says: I enter this one at the end of the last of his many births. This is the final one of his 84 births and he is doing tapasya.
by john
28 Jan 2009
Forum: For Ex-BKs & Common Room
Topic: Everything you need to know is in the Sakar Murlis. Or is it
Replies: 13
Views: 7969

Re: Everything you need to know is in the Sakar Murlis. Or is it

In Murli it explains how your status depends on study of Murli, so really it is more than just a means to occupy the mind. When a soul becomes Karmateet, then maybe there is no need. Karmateet stage comes at the end, therefore study is important right to the very end. Sakar Murli 2008/10/10 Revised ...
by john
26 Jan 2009
Forum: For Ex-BKs & Common Room
Topic: The Clearest Murli points to Remembrance
Replies: 32
Views: 21875

The Clearest Murli points to Remembrance

Sakar Murli 2008/10/03 Revised Shiv Baba enters this one and so you have to remember Shiv Baba. It is not that because Shiv Baba comes in this one, you have to remember this one. No, you have to remember Shiv Baba up there. You have to remember Shiv Baba and your sweet home. Keep this in your intell...
by john
22 Jan 2009
Forum: For Ex-BKs & Common Room
Topic: Picture Of Shiva Baba
Replies: 103
Views: 78345

Re: Picture Of Shiva Baba

No, no, no Brother, see, it is a matter of the intention you put whilst quoting the Murli. My intention is the same as the Murli intention. ]You know there are many such speculation, that if you take the Murli literary, out of the context, with different intention, one can very well prove that Murl...
by john
22 Jan 2009
Forum: For Ex-BKs & Common Room
Topic: Remembering Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar.
Replies: 0
Views: 2668

Remembering Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar.

Sakar Murli 2008/12/02 Revised
When you remember Shiv Baba, you would also remember Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar, the residents of the Subtle Region, and by spinning the discus of self-¬realization, you will become victorious. Victory means to gain victory over Maya.
by john
22 Jan 2009
Forum: For PBKs - supporting 'Advanced Knowledge'
Topic: 82nd 83rd 84th birth of Brahma Baba?
Replies: 28
Views: 17321

Re: 82nd 83rd 84th birth of Brahma Baba?

Recently I read in a Murli that it was Brahmas 84th birth.

If I see it again I will post it
by john
22 Jan 2009
Forum: For Ex-BKs & Common Room
Topic: Biography of Shiva, Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar.
Replies: 4
Views: 8870

Re: Biography of Shiva, Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar.

We believe Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar are there since the beginning of the Yagya. In the Murli it is said that " When i come i don't come alone, i come with the Trimurti" OK, but where is this knowledge within the BKSWU circles? I know advance knowledge of PBKs explains, but this Murli po...