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In one Murli it was said shivabava gives visions whilst sitting in Paramdham to bhagats.....in another Murli it is said visions are from drama....
Can these 2 Murli points fit?

Are any of the Dada Lekhraj gurus known?
He had about 12?

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I can do that yes.

Thank you

admin wrote: ↑26 Feb 2023 Can you clarify what exactly you are referring to - and what exactly you are looking for?

I am looking for English translation of early Sakar Murlis 1958 - 1961.

Some pages did not load on mobile devices but were OK on pc.

Is it still up and running ... cannot get link to work?

Works on computer.

Is there an authentic date and account of Lekhraj (brahma) visions? Did the visions kick start the Yagya or did they come later? Of course the bkswu version of events can not be trusted so I am not particularly interested in that. Only for comparison. I read that Om Radhe chanting of Om caused the f...

Fake Dada Lekhraj?
Sounds a bit like the fake Paul McCartney stories.

On a serious note....did brahma baba read from paper Murlis in 50s 60s?
I thought they were just narrated ?

Do the PBKs have Sakar Murlis from 1958-1969 in English?
The Hindi ones are they original uncut?

Brahma was not worshipped much.
Shiva is worshipped a lot.
So it makes sense from a service in India point of view to introduce Shiva as God because Brahma as God would not get such good results.
Did service expansion in India coincide with introduction of Shiva?
In the 1950s.

There are recordings of Mama classes 1956 - 1965

sita wrote: ↑02 Sep 2017 http://www.PBKs.info/Streaming/MP3/av23.07.17.mp3

So this is first message of Bap-Dada in 3rd Chariot?
Was the message given to Dadi janki?
What did janki say?

Instructions were given to destroy records in 1950 before mount abu... Pakistan records.

That leaves 13 years in mount abu 1950 - 1963 missing.
In that period there are drawings made and information but Sakar Murlis are not now available.
I do not believe those ones are destroyed.

Are there any pre 1963 Sakar Murlis avaliable?

It is said pre 1950s material was destroyed or buried....but actually there are pushpa photos available from 1942 maybe?

Thank you.
I have read piu announced lekraj to be prajapati God Brahma which he believed.

In a bk Divine Decree 1949.....it is said
Prajapati God Brahma.